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Torslanda

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #475 on: March 05, 2018, 10:31:43 am »
Just as Auchonvillers nr. Beaumont-Hamel was colloquially known as 'Ocean Villas'. Typical Tommy humour.
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T42

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #476 on: March 05, 2018, 10:32:16 am »
or Wipers...
In hte context of WWI, it can be 'Wipers'.

+1; sanctified by usage and sacrifice. Ditto for US "Bastone".  But only from people who were there.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #477 on: March 05, 2018, 10:34:39 am »
"Torte" pronounced "taut".
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Mr Larrington

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #478 on: March 05, 2018, 01:41:50 pm »
"Le Cateau", obv, is pronounced "Leaky Too".  Or possibly "Two".
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citoyen

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #479 on: April 25, 2018, 10:31:32 am »
There's a trailer that's getting repeated a lot on 6music at the moment in which Miranda Sawyer pronounces biopic as 'bi-opic' rather than 'bio-pic', with the emphasis on 'op'. Makes me shout at the radio every time.

Stuart Maconie picked up on it yesterday as well.

T42

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #480 on: April 25, 2018, 11:31:44 am »
Shallot pronounced SHALLet. US, natch.

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Andrij

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #481 on: April 25, 2018, 11:36:12 am »
Shallot pronounced SHALLet. US, natch.

Growing up in the US (and left in my late 20s), I never hears anyone say 'SHALLet'.  It may be regional, or perhaps just one person's ignorance.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #482 on: April 25, 2018, 11:59:57 am »
There's a trailer that's getting repeated a lot on 6music at the moment in which Miranda Sawyer pronounces biopic as 'bi-opic' rather than 'bio-pic', with the emphasis on 'op'. Makes me shout at the radio every time.

Stuart Maconie picked up on it yesterday as well.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "bio-pic". But then it's not a word I encounter much.
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T42

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #483 on: April 25, 2018, 01:47:41 pm »
Shallot pronounced SHALLet. US, natch.

Growing up in the US (and left in my late 20s), I never hears anyone say 'SHALLet'.  It may be regional, or perhaps just one person's ignorance.

Two, then, one of them being Julia Child, t'other being Danny de Vito. JC spoke fluent French (échalote), too.
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Andrij

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #484 on: April 25, 2018, 01:56:52 pm »
 ::-)

I leave the country for a few decades and the whole place falls to pieces.
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Kim

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #485 on: April 25, 2018, 03:00:34 pm »
Veering off-topic, but hardly worth starting a new thread...

Pronunciation that makes me cringe slightly less:  "Kim Vaul"
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ian

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #486 on: April 25, 2018, 03:47:38 pm »
I say bi-OP-ic. And shall-OT.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #487 on: April 25, 2018, 10:07:13 pm »
There's a trailer that's getting repeated a lot on 6music at the moment in which Miranda Sawyer pronounces biopic as 'bi-opic' rather than 'bio-pic', with the emphasis on 'op'. Makes me shout at the radio every time.

Stuart Maconie picked up on it yesterday as well.
Phew. Not just me then.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #488 on: April 26, 2018, 10:37:20 am »
There's a trailer that's getting repeated a lot on 6music at the moment in which Miranda Sawyer pronounces biopic as 'bi-opic' rather than 'bio-pic', with the emphasis on 'op'. Makes me shout at the radio every time.

Stuart Maconie picked up on it yesterday as well.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "bio-pic". But then it's not a word I encounter much.

I'd always say  bio-pic, bi-opic means having two opics whatever opics are.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

citoyen

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #489 on: April 26, 2018, 10:56:12 am »
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "bio-pic". But then it's not a word I encounter much.

Nor do I generally, but 6music is my background noise during the day and they've been playing the trailer at least once an hour for the past week, so it begins to be conspicuous.

Fortunately, that episode has been on now so they've started playing the trailer for the next episode instead, which doesn't feature any especially annoying pronunciations, just the usual self-congratulatory smugness of 6music presenters (I'm well and truly bored of these idiots telling me how 'eclectic' they are).

Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #490 on: April 26, 2018, 11:03:15 am »
Apparently this genuinely is a US v UK difference:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/biopic
As movies are a US-dominated industry, it makes sense that the US pronunciation would become dominant. Though bio-pic makes more sense.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #491 on: April 26, 2018, 01:24:15 pm »
The cover blurb on my copy of Iain Banks' "Espedair Street" describes it as a "rock biopic", and thus was clearly written by an idiot.
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ian

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #492 on: April 26, 2018, 01:43:02 pm »
I'm sticking with bi-OP-ic. It gives the word a spritely bunnyish appeal. I think we should put the emphasis on more middle syllables. They're forced to linger there, journeymen stressfully bookended by other more emphatically delivered syllables. I say give them life! Give them omph! This is my manifesto for the neglected syllables.
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Torslanda

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #493 on: April 26, 2018, 02:08:21 pm »
AIUI the word is a contraction of 'biographical picture'. Therefore it should be pronounced 'bio - pic' and hyphenated when written.

Can of worms anyone . . . ?
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T42

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #494 on: April 26, 2018, 02:35:59 pm »
No relation of 84 Charlie.
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citoyen

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #495 on: April 30, 2018, 02:03:49 pm »
I listened to the latest Kermode and Mayo film podcast yesterday, in which they covered the thorny bio-pic question (presumably inspired by the same 6music trailer, though all the news and trailers are cut out of the podcast version of the show).

They agreed with me on the pronunciation, as did their guest Eddie Marsan.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #496 on: May 15, 2018, 09:16:54 pm »
Son.  It is pronounced 'samosa'.  Not bloody 'samoza''. 
Someone brought brought up in Birmingham has no excuse.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #497 on: May 15, 2018, 10:18:22 pm »
Son.  It is pronounced 'samosa'.  Not bloody 'samoza''. 
Someone brought brought up in Birmingham has no excuse.
Wasn't he El Pres of Nicaragua? (Samoza, not your son, obvs.)
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #498 on: May 20, 2018, 02:24:22 pm »
I think we should put the emphasis on more middle syllables. They're forced to linger there, journeymen stressfully bookended by other more emphatically delivered syllables. I say give them life! Give them omph! This is my manifesto for the neglected syllables.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #499 on: May 20, 2018, 02:55:00 pm »
Or Slovakia. Though you might enjoy Poland.
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