Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => The Knowledge => Topic started by: Canardly on 17 November, 2013, 08:42:59 pm
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Ordered one of these as soon as I heard on the forum about Carradice introducing them. Really pleased with it. Rock solid including off road. Clever and improved design over the old Karrimor high lift. Longer tangs, non slip webbing and clip, suitable for Barley and larger bags due to design. Will post some pics when I have a chance. I am sure will be of interest to saddlebag audax types and others using Brooks or similar saddles.
http://www.carradice.co.uk/index.php?page_id=product&under=range&product_id=136#prettyPhoto
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do you find you get ,....posterior / frame interaction, as the frame is quite close to the rivet area, I mean do you detect its there whilst riding, that sort of thing bugs the hell out of me.
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How does it actually attach to the bike, the tabs that hook into the rear of the saddle look like they'll just pull out?
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Riding a bit high, isn't it? Can it be lowered? I'd worry about interaction.
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I'd worry about getting my leg over.
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I'd worry about getting my leg over.
Mustn't mustn't..... ;)
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I ALWAYS worry about getti............ :facepalm:
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I just don't get the logic in placing the weight higher than with a standard rack/rack pack or saddlebag.
I already find my bike with a new Bagman system has a distinct pendulum feel to the handling.
It's better on my audax bike where the weight is set much lower on an SQR system.
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Those who ride tiny frames can have negative clearance between their saddlebag and rear tyre. HK can't use anything bigger than a Barley on her bike.
These new saddlebag mounts look very similar to the old Karrimor mounts. Neither HK or I can use either type of Karrimor mount, due to bum:saddlebag interference. A pity, the tags (vaguely S-shaped in profile) give a quick release mechanism.
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Having been using one of these with a Barley for about a month. No issue with it swinging and no effect on handling, yes it does raise the saddlebag up higher, this was the reason I acquired one as riding a smallish frame there was not much clearance between bag and mudguard. Interestingly I still have one of the old Karrimor versions and yes there is bum contact with that, however not with the carradice model !
Certainly happy with mine which replaced a Bagman support.
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This looks like the answer to my prayers as the current bagman, in new and older guises is just too big to fit between my saddle and the rear wheel. The outstanding problem I have is that the new one relies on having bag loops on the saddle. Very few do these days and even Brooks don't fit them to all their saddles. It seems to be a complicated exercise to get a saddle you are comfortable with without having to restrict choice to ones with bag loops.
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You can get bolt-on bag loops though which use the normal saddle rails :)
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I have one and fitted with a nelson lf but have yet to road test it. It fits a b17 and spa nidd fine, but doesn't work with an old saddle where the loops are slightly recessed under the saddle. The two clips that go into the loops can't engage. That might also be an issue where you are relying on 'add on' loops.
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The photos on the Carradice website are pretty comprehensive. For a close up from underneath to show how the tabs locate on a B17:
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3736/10982704776_ca9d9ba741_c.jpg)
The strap around the seat pillar provides the tension that prevents the tabs from disengaging. It seems pretty secure when I've tried BF&I to dislodge it.
Off to try it out in the real world :)
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And just to round this off after a 25k jaunt
along the roads through the potholes of Sussex:
Overall: brilliant bit of kit.
Leg over - no problem
Stability - very solid. I threw a heavy lock and chain in with a few other bits and pieces and it was fine despite the fact that the contents were weighty and must have slid around
Clearance - I can fit a fist between the rack and my lower back. I have to slide a long way back on the saddle before making contact with the rack - so far back as to be highly uncomfortable.
Fitting - mounts in 10-15secs, demounts in 2
Ergonomics - easy to reach the side pockets while still riding
Only time will tell but it's a great start.
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Wot he said ^^^^^
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can we move this to the review section, its good info and will other wise get lost. ::-)
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I've just ordered one. I'd previously decided it it would be a Nice Thing To Have but was unnecessary expenditure.
It's become a bit more necessary as a consequence of my Bagman QR mechanism disintegrating on the way home yesterday. Had to secure my Barley to the mount with zip ties to stop it falling off.
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It's become a bit more necessary as a consequence of my Bagman QR mechanism disintegrating on the way home yesterday.
Usually the trigger pin comes out, which allows the spring to fire the support pin out of the end.
Generally it happens when there's no weight on the bag loop, when fitting or removing the bag, so there's a reasonable chance of finding it, but I suppose a road bump could also allow it out.
Carradice will probably give you a new release pin set if you grumble.
Old release pins are screw in, and benefit from locktite, newer ones are a rolled springy thing that benefit from a bash with a hammer.
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Usually the trigger pin comes out, which allows the spring to fire the support pin out of the end.
Yup, that about sums it up. It happened while I was en route, so fat chance of finding the trigger pin. Fortunately, the support pin stayed in place until I removed it. It would probably be easy to molish a replacement trigger pin (I couldn't see a thread in the socket so I'm assuming it's the newer bash-in type) but I'm looking at this as a serendipitous excuse to buy a Classic rack, which I had been considering anyway. Two attractions of the Classic for me, as previously mentioned...
One, I've always been happy with the Bagman support except that because it mounts to the saddle rails, my saddle has to be set further back than I'd like. Using the Classic rack will allow me to set the saddle further forward.
Two, when off the bike, it provides a carry handle for the bag.
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I'd previously decided it would be a Nice Thing To Have but was unnecessary expenditure.
That was exactly my initial thought.However it became an itch I had to scratch after seeing Canardly's.
I sold my SQR brkt,which had been getting no use for a while, to convince myself that I had avoided unnecessary expenditure ;)
I'm chuffed with mine.I like the way it swaps between saddles with no need for tools & it's absolutely effortless.Plus the bottom horizontal rail provides an excellent mounting position for a rear light.
Currently mine is being used in conjunction with a Carradice Camper longflap.
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Impressively prompt service from Carradice - ordered Wednesday, arrived in Thursday's post. So I got to use it on this morning's commute. First impressions very favourable. :thumbsup:
One observation: it's quite tricky to get adequate tension on the seatpost strap. Shame you can't tighten it after closing the fastening. Or can you? Maybe I'm doing something wrong.
Also, has anyone been tempted to add any kind of damping on the bar that rests against the saddle rails? I'm thinking of wrapping it in a bit of old inner tube or somesuch, just to reduce the effect of vibrations.
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One observation: it's quite tricky to get adequate tension on the seatpost strap. Shame you can't tighten it after closing the fastening. Or can you?
I connect the two parts of the snap buckle & pull the free end back towards the handlebars,iyswim,& tuck the loose strap under the tensioned strap that is in contact with the saddle post.
I do not start with the strap adjusted to the correct length as it were.It's a slack fit before I pull on the free end as referred to above.
hth
eta I've done nothing relating to vibration elimination
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I've worked out what the problem was - the strap was threaded wrongly through the buckle, so it was impossible to adjust the tension after fastening it. Sorted it now.
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Also, has anyone been tempted to add any kind of damping on the bar that rests against the saddle rails? I'm thinking of wrapping it in a bit of old inner tube or somesuch, just to reduce the effect of vibrations.
I've done that on my 1970s version. I use a toestrap for the seatpost strap and pull it up very tightly, also to reduce any vibration.