(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t207/andrew_sw/kathleen_ann_zps738ab590.jpg)
Kathleen Ann
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yrDeaYxmOKo/Uy4RXcXXnoI/AAAAAAAAFJg/boQgCVrQCQw/w737-h553-no/DSCF1655)A ship commissioned for a war which was over before it was launched. So they never fitted it with masts but kept it mothballed. When the next war came along it was obsolete so used as admiralty offices.
HMS Unicorn
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-yrDeaYxmOKo/Uy4RXcXXnoI/AAAAAAAAFJg/boQgCVrQCQw/w737-h553-no/DSCF1655)Captain Flint needed a few spare rooms for his monkeys and parrots.
HMS Unicorn
(http://www.pbase.com/johnewing/image/154921923.jpg)
Dutch barge on the Rhine/Marne canal.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/100_1887_zpsa1063169.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/100_1887_zpsa1063169.jpg.html)That's Lee's boat wot he built himself. Looks like him in the first pic with the hat.
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In Queenborough harbour, Sheppey
Is that the same boat as the wreck which was sat onna floating pontoon / barge on the Medway in Rochester for the last three years or so - just to the east of Rochester bridge.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/100_1272_zps5ff2859d.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/100_1272_zps5ff2859d.jpg.html)
And this would be the, er.....
It has had an essentially new hull, built in Bristol.Is that the same boat as the wreck which was sat onna floating pontoon / barge on the Medway in Rochester for the last three years or so - just to the east of Rochester bridge.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac41/yostumpy/100_1272_zps5ff2859d.jpg) (http://s884.photobucket.com/user/yostumpy/media/100_1272_zps5ff2859d.jpg.html)
And this would be the, er.....
And the filming...
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t207/andrew_sw/GloucesterDocks_zps41016b51.jpg)
Olga (a pilot cutter)
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t207/andrew_sw/olga_zps26b6016f.jpg)
Going to have to watch the film now to see if they remove the radar from the pilot boat's spreaders post production.I suspect someone just forgot.
I did see a yacht dressed up as a square rigger last year, complete with faux gun ports.found the photo
Olga (a pilot cutter)
(http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t207/andrew_sw/olga_zps26b6016f.jpg)
I've always wanted to sail one of those. I figure that you'd need a good bit of space and it would be quite awesome. Owning and maintaining one would be beyond my wit, wallet and patience..
Dez spent a few days with his cousin on a narrow boat.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GvL9tMLPTbs
Dez spent a few days with his cousin on a narrow boat.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GvL9tMLPTbs
What a splendid little film. It makes me realise that the go-pro and helethings have made a huge difference to the quality of amateur production. Despite that, Des still has the artistic direction to use the technology well. I tried to see Des using a remote control, but failed!Dez spent a few days with his cousin on a narrow boat.
As Riggers says a very accomplished effort, please pass on my congratulations to Dez. The aerial shots from Dez's GoPro RC helicopter thingy are brilliant. Please can you provide a link to some details of the machine?
What a splendid little film. It makes me realise that the go-pro and helethings have made a huge difference to the quality of amateur production. Despite that, Des still has the artistic direction to use the technology well. I tried to see Des using a remote control, but failed!Dez spent a few days with his cousin on a narrow boat.
As Riggers says a very accomplished effort, please pass on my congratulations to Dez. The aerial shots from Dez's GoPro RC helicopter thingy are brilliant. Please can you provide a link to some details of the machine?
What a splendid little film. It makes me realise that the go-pro and helethings have made a huge difference to the quality of amateur production. Despite that, Des still has the artistic direction to use the technology well. I tried to see Des using a remote control, but failed!Dez spent a few days with his cousin on a narrow boat.
As Riggers says a very accomplished effort, please pass on my congratulations to Dez. The aerial shots from Dez's GoPro RC helicopter thingy are brilliant. Please can you provide a link to some details of the machine?
You're not looking hard enough - I'm in shot quite a bit! :-)
We're you wearing a blue jacket?
We're you wearing a blue jacket?
It was a teal jumper that I knitted.
Do you have a video downlink? You were looking down most of the time.I do - it arrived the day before I went!
Well done; a nice little video.
Not unusual but my son's first solo sail
(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h82/Paul_Fulford/158309BA-927B-42F0-9859-36D7F4132B49_zpsoieaeczf.jpg) (http://s62.photobucket.com/user/Paul_Fulford/media/158309BA-927B-42F0-9859-36D7F4132B49_zpsoieaeczf.jpg.html)
He's doing his Level 4 this week!
Dez, what sort of 'copter do you have?
There should be a lot more of that ^ this weekend at the Greenwich tall ships festival (http://www.royalgreenwich.gov.uk/tallships/site/index.php)
ETA Were you taking refreshment at the Promenade cafe when you took that?
Yes, that's a Thames barge. The lee boards provide lateral resistance. They have to be tacked, as in, it is the leeward one which has to be lowered and the windward one raised on each tack.
They race them on the East Coast. When racing downwind they have been known to lower the stern of the tender to catch just that little bit more wind.
See also Wiki. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thames_sailing_barge)
Den Phillips (http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/features/sails_sea_and_shutter_speeds_life_afloat_with_essex_photographer_den_phillips_1_1329974) records this activity with some fantastic photos. (Her regular website (http://www.denphillipsphotos.co.uk/) appears to be offline at the moment which is a bit of a shame.)
I think many (most?) were sailed two handed. Many years ago I spent hours clambering over and around the Cambria with my dad (ex-Merchant Navy). He joined in '45 and would likely have offloaded cargo to Thames barges in the Pool of London.Yes, that's a Thames barge. The lee boards provide lateral resistance. They have to be tacked, as in, it is the leeward one which has to be lowered and the windward one raised on each tack.
They race them on the East Coast. When racing downwind they have been known to lower the stern of the tender to catch just that little bit more wind.
See also Wiki. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thames_sailing_barge)
Den Phillips (http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/features/sails_sea_and_shutter_speeds_life_afloat_with_essex_photographer_den_phillips_1_1329974) records this activity with some fantastic photos. (Her regular website (http://www.denphillipsphotos.co.uk/) appears to be offline at the moment which is a bit of a shame.)
^^^ Correct :thumbsup: The vessel pictured is a sprit sail rigged Thames barge. The sprit is the wooden spar that goes diagonally from the bottom of the main mast to the top right-hand corner (as shown in the photo) of the of the mainsail. The rig allows the vessel to be sailed by a master, mate and a boy. The idea is that the mainsail unfurls like a theatre curtain so can be easily furled up again. Raising and lowering sails is one of the most labour intensive tasks on a boat so if you only have a small crew its important the task can be done easily.
The spar on the front of the barge is the bowsprit which normally is horizontal to carry some on the headsails. It has been raised to the vertical position so it doesn't get in the way whilst the barge is moored.
My knowledge is theoretical as I've never actually sailed on one. But I hope to soon, I have a plan!I've been out for a day sail on one. The volume below decks is huge!
My knowledge is theoretical as I've never actually sailed on one. But I hope to soon, I have a plan!I've been out for a day sail on one. The volume below decks is huge!
the sail can be depowered by raising the sprit - and with a big winch, that can be done by just one person. Better than our barge, where it takes hercules to even raise the sail, or two people on the winch. Not that we ever sail it.
Isn't there a way of brailing the mains'l up to depower it ?My knowledge is theoretical as I've never actually sailed on one. But I hope to soon, I have a plan!I've been out for a day sail on one. The volume below decks is huge!
the sail can be depowered by raising the sprit - and with a big winch, that can be done by just one person. Better than our barge, where it takes hercules to even raise the sail, or two people on the winch. Not that we ever sail it.
I didn't realise we had a boaty thread. Not sure why this made me think of you lot... ::-)
(edit: no idea why dropbox appears to be misbehaving... it's blocked from work so I was trying to post from my phone. I'll fix it this afternoon when I get to a decent PC.)
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My knowledge is theoretical as I've never actually sailed on one. But I hope to soon, I have a CUNNING plan!
Those things terrify me. I look at them and my mind says "No way is that thing stable in a swell".
If the dynamic stabilizers failed, I reckon they'd last minutes in serious storm.
I don't understand how you can get that many people off and into lifeboats quickly. Could be Titanic all over again :'(
Sadly, you don't need to imagine http://www.theguardian.com/world/south-korea-ferry-disaster (http://www.theguardian.com/world/south-korea-ferry-disaster)I don't understand how you can get that many people off and into lifeboats quickly. Could be Titanic all over again :'(
You can NOT get that many people off!! Remember what happened to the Costa Concordia. 32 passengers died while the ship was sinking only a few dozen meters from the shore. I cannot even imagine what would happen if a similar event took place far from the shore...
Very pretty.
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5149/13918023686_d52946a35c_b.jpg)
The "Freda B," a gaff-topsail schooner (so they said) used for tours and charters on San Francisco Bay, in the Golden Gate
I got that wrong. I was thinking that a topsail could only ever be a squaresail. A topsail is also the triangular sail that is set above the gaff.
More pics here (https://picasaweb.google.com/drwhrobertson/StuffFromNorway2014?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCPSJ_4ymoNycKg&feat=directlink) btw,which I'll try to keep updating rather than head way off topic in this thread.Some nice photos there, Bill. But that island - sure, it's bare, bleak, grim even - but I wouldn't call it fugly! :D
I'm becoming very jealous of your trip, Mr. Plumtree
If I had the time to sail it and some spare cash, actually the time would be the harder to find than the cash, I'd have one of these built. (http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/wooden-sailboat-kits/clc-faering-cruiser.html) I think it's a beautiful boat, with a very clever design and would be perfect for exploring the east coast and Thames Estuary.Hmm - I'd prefer something either much lighter or bigger, like a cornish shrimper.
If I had the time to sail it and some spare cash, actually the time would be the harder to find than the cash, I'd have one of these built. (http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/wooden-sailboat-kits/clc-faering-cruiser.html) I think it's a beautiful boat, with a very clever design and would be perfect for exploring the east coast and Thames Estuary.Hmm - I'd prefer something either much lighter or bigger, like a cornish shrimper.
Or even this. (http://shoal-waters.moonfruit.com/)
If I had the time to sail it and some spare cash, actually the time would be the harder to find than the cash, I'd have one of these built. (http://www.clcboats.com/shop/boats/wooden-sailboat-kits/clc-faering-cruiser.html) I think it's a beautiful boat, with a very clever design and would be perfect for exploring the east coast and Thames Estuary.Hmm - I'd prefer something either much lighter or bigger, like a Cornish shrimper.
Would love to know your itinerary, through whom you organised your trip, cost etc.Will try to find time to fill in some of the details tomorrow, seeing as the weather forecast is for grey and bumpy.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wbIQFtsIhvs/VH2kiDTpMTI/AAAAAAAAHZI/b4DmGz3t1Ls/s720/P2540611.jpg)Drift?!!! I guess it doesn't mean quite the same in Norwegian.
Er, a lever and some dials.
Would love to know your itinerary, through whom you organised your trip, cost etc.Sorry Jurek, been busy sorting through a bazillion photos...
Thank you for your fascinating photos and words. It's especially wonderful to see the mix of passengers and odd cargo. I feel a great need to tour the coast of Norway.No. It can mean many things but in this case means power or drive. Start and Stopp mean what you think. On the telegraph, Sakte == softly and Ganske Sakte means quite softly or extremely softly, so slow and dead slow being the English.(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wbIQFtsIhvs/VH2kiDTpMTI/AAAAAAAAHZI/b4DmGz3t1Ls/s720/P2540611.jpg)Drift?!!! I guess it doesn't mean quite the same in Norwegian.
Er, a lever and some dials.
Crikey - load deck almost 600 feet long, big enough to carry a destroyer.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/MV_Blue_Marlin_carrying_USS_Cole.jpg)
No photo alas but I'm curious to know what a full-on RNLI self-righting lifeboat was doing on the River Lea this morning. Just downstream from the Princess of Wales /Lea Bridge ???
No photo alas but I'm curious to know what a full-on RNLI self-righting lifeboat was doing on the River Lea this morning. Just downstream from the Princess of Wales /Lea Bridge ???
No photo alas but I'm curious to know what a full-on RNLI self-righting lifeboat was doing on the River Lea this morning. Just downstream from the Princess of Wales /Lea Bridge ???
Orange in colour?
I've seen that parked up there a few times.
It did occur to me that it could be my great frend Don, who bought Lynmouth's lifeboat when it was de-comissioned a few years ago, and converted it into his home. Last I heard from Don, he was moored up somewhere on the Grand Union near Watford.
Its still there, just a little further downstream, parked up next to Middlesex Filter Beds Nature Reserve.No photo alas but I'm curious to know what a full-on RNLI self-righting lifeboat was doing on the River Lea this morning. Just downstream from the Princess of Wales /Lea Bridge ???
Orange in colour?
I've seen that parked up there a few times.
It did occur to me that it could be my great frend Don, who bought Lynmouth's lifeboat when it was de-comissioned a few years ago, and converted it into his home. Last I heard from Don, he was moored up somewhere on the Grand Union near Watford.
Yes, very very orange. More orange than the whole of interzen's fleet put together. It appeared to be in mid-park, but I was driving over the bridge and thus only saw it briefly.
Not a black hull?
If it doesn't have a black hull, then it might be an ex-gas rig escape vessel. Quite a few have been converted to canal boats.
So that's what Oscar's Dad has been up to recently :D
The Tecla was once build as herring drifter. A fishing vessel that would roam the North Sea for weeks on end to fill her hull with barrels of herring. The Tecla was build in 1915 as a ketch sailing ship, build without engine or other propulsion except her sails.
Is there not a tall ship type thingy that has managed to run itself aground in the pool of London?Doesn't look 'run aground' so much as 'grounded when the tide went out'. Hence the pontoon alongside.
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I don't think its Pool of London.Is there not a tall ship type thingy that has managed to run itself aground in the pool of London?Doesn't look 'run aground' so much as 'grounded when the tide went out'. Hence the pontoon alongside.
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I would just love to take you over a square rigger one day. I detect that you would love it.Most likely.
Is there not a tall ship type thingy that has managed to run itself aground in the pool of London?
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Very shabby. If they've got time to put a set of fairy lights on her they should have time for a harbour stow on the sails.
I would just love to take you over a square rigger one day. I detect that you would love it.Most likely.
Thank you.
I'd look forward to that, Rob.
(No pressure)
J
Very shabby. If they've got time to put a set of fairy lights on her they should have time for a harbour stow on the sails.
I wonder if they've done that for asthetic effect. But I agree, its shabby!
I witnessed a rather splendid sight at the beginning of August - a Thames barge tacking up the Blackwater, with only two people onboard (and no engine running). That was how they used to work, but seeing it done in 2015 was pretty neat. Typically they seem to have a cast of hundreds on board.Having sailed one, they are pretty easy. Much, much easier to handle than a dutch gaff rig (with it's huge boom). Gybing the dutch barge filled me with terror and required a minimum of 4 people (1 - leeboard winch, 1 on mainsheet, one on stays, one steering). The experienced skipper told me in anything other than a light breeze they tack right around rather than gybe.
I want to go on a Thames spritsail barge, there are loads down at Maldon which is only a few miles away. A yacf trip would be ace.I've been on one of those. :thumbsup:
I want to go on a Thames spritsail barge, there are loads down at Maldon which is only a few miles away. A yacf trip would be ace.I've been on one of those. :thumbsup:
There's a guy who sails from what used to be called Neptune's Arm in Herne Bay, takes you with him for something like a fiver.
Goes out to the Maunsell Sea Forts.
He's a one man outfit, so at some point you can expect to be handed a rope with a request 'can you hold onto this and not let it go, I'll take it from you in a few minutes'.
The best bit though, is when he cuts the diesel and your moving along at a fair old clip, more than enough to have wind in your hair, in complete and utter silence.
Before we'd left the confines of the harbour (if you can call it that) one of the people on the barge eagerly asked of him 'So, where are we going today?'
With a resigned but patient look, like that of a man who has answered the question a thousand times he replied 'That depends on which way the wind is blowing.....'
Roskilde shtuff:
I'm sure there's a generic name for these things but I'm damned if I know what it is.
"This" ?
This is a link to the Wiki for a UK naval craft, I suspect they might be a little sensitive to people walking up and taking pictures, or more likely Pingu doesn't have a camera to hand.
She was launched in 2007, completed her contractor's sea trials in July 2010 and arrived at her base port on 22 September 2010. Diamond was commissioned in a traditional ceremony on 6 May 2011, and formally entered service on 12 July 2011.Four years from launch to entering service! I suppose that's normal and my ghasted flabbers are simply a sign of my unfamiliarity with naval procedures...
I saw that parked up in Greenwich earlier this year. It is one very weird looking ship. Very stealth.This is a link to the Wiki for a UK naval craft, I suspect they might be a little sensitive to people walking up and taking pictures, or more likely Pingu doesn't have a camera to hand.
The latter as I was watching from my office window.
Roskilde shtuff:
Oh, man -- the Viking Ship Museum is one of the places I most want to go in Europe.
I find this amazing, from the Wiki:QuoteShe was launched in 2007, completed her contractor's sea trials in July 2010 and arrived at her base port on 22 September 2010. Diamond was commissioned in a traditional ceremony on 6 May 2011, and formally entered service on 12 July 2011.Four years from launch to entering service! I suppose that's normal and my ghasted flabbers are simply a sign of my unfamiliarity with naval procedures...
...Bygdøy...
Trying to pronounce that :-\ Boogderoo :P
...Bygdøy...
Trying to pronounce that :-\ Boogderoo :P
buigdeuy would be closer but there are two non English(scots) sounds in there.
I saw that parked up in Greenwich earlier this year. It is one very weird looking ship. Very stealth.This is a link to the Wiki for a UK naval craft, I suspect they might be a little sensitive to people walking up and taking pictures, or more likely Pingu doesn't have a camera to hand.
The latter as I was watching from my office window.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/663/22636605000_7954ec331f_k.jpg) (http://[url=https://flic.kr/p/Aujw27) (https://flic.kr/p/Aujw27)
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(http://i1375.photobucket.com/albums/ag464/PeteB99/1c750de7-59d1-4afe-8537-47edcbc1a85b_zpsihj7ttag.jpg) (http://s1375.photobucket.com/user/PeteB99/media/1c750de7-59d1-4afe-8537-47edcbc1a85b_zpsihj7ttag.jpg.html)That boat looks to be very lightly loaded. I wonder if it travelled ballasted down and they've removed the ballast?
1st thought: Stupidly, I thought the cranes are on the dockside.
2nd thought: How are they going to get them off the boat?
That Youtube link links to some very *ahem* interesting footage....
All I get is more footage of cranes.That Youtube link links to some very *ahem* interesting footage....
Doesn't youtube tailor links according to things you've viewed recently?
My selection was a 1955 Grand Prix and a couple of films of electric bicycles ;D
Derelict London Boats (http://www.derelictlondon.com/boats.html)
I've seen (and photographed) a few. Come better weather, I think I shall track down the rest.
The thing looks neither modern, nor express, and I'm wondering how can it be still afloat!
(http://s2.lemde.fr/image/2016/02/01/534x0/4857453_6_473d_2016-02-01-171dbcb-34782e2cddd941409dc0f2c6d895e_a315d8b1b045868a3080a467c2af89f2.jpg)
I wonder how long it's been down there:
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I wonder how long it's been down there:
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Now remind me how this works again. .................You're out on your bike and you stop by the waters edge, and lo and behold you spot this object under the water. 'Hold on'' you cry, I must photograph this for that 'boaty type type things ' thread on yACF :)
Now remind me how this works again. .................You're out on your bike and you stop by the waters edge, and lo and behold you spot this object under the water. 'Hold on'' you cry, I must photograph this for that 'boaty type things ' thread on yACF :)
How does the steering of a barge train with a pusher tug work then? I'd have thought it was dynamically unstable...
What's on those barges: coal?
its not at all unusual to see pusher tugs strapped to the sides of full-of-landfill barges on the Thames.
(https://c6.staticflickr.com/9/8268/29472225901_f79e1c9d73_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/LUmRXT)
P9080041 (https://flic.kr/p/LUmRXT) by Mr Larrington (https://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_larrington/), on Flickr
Yatch having a hard time into a mighty rushing headwind, just east of the Golden Gate
Yeah I saw the website. Doesn't identify the flag though. It looks similar to some of the historical US flags but I can't see any quite the same. If they are keeping to the history of the ship it should be a flag from around 1830.It looks like the flag 2nd from left, one up from bottom, in this pic:
I don't know about explosive bolts securing the rig. When container cranes are delivered to container ports, the cranes are welded to the ship's deck and the hot axe is used before they are rolled onto the quay. Crane delivery ships will tend to avoid the worst weather in safe harbours.The windage on those things makes me cringe. Steering must have been an nightmare.
http://worldmaritimenews.com/archives/91012/four-new-gantry-cranes-arrive-to-hhla-container-terminal-germany-2/
I was fairly heavily involved with the London Gateway container port and the crane delivery ships (three separate shipments of identical cranes) look very lopsided as they berth.
http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/event/ship-to-shore-cranes-delivered-to-dp-worlds-new-londongateway-port-163056410
No pics, but a Finnish minelayer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A4meenmaa-class_minelayer) came into the harbour this morning and now there's a submarine lurking just outside ??? Anything to do with the Russian flotilla (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37706425?intlink_from_url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/39267b85-1784-4f4b-80ed-f8cb4a35f337/russia&link_location=live-reporting-story)?
No pics, but a Finnish minelayer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A4meenmaa-class_minelayer) came into the harbour this morning and now there's a submarine lurking just outside ??? Anything to do with the Russian flotilla (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37706425?intlink_from_url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/39267b85-1784-4f4b-80ed-f8cb4a35f337/russia&link_location=live-reporting-story)?
I wouldn't be at all surprised.
They are there to Finnish the Russians off.
A bunch of blond men going 'Ulrika-ka-ka-ka-ka' in the Moorings this evening.
A bunch of blond men going 'Ulrika-ka-ka-ka-ka' in the Moorings this evening.
Fixed. ;)
Strewth! wouldn't want to do that on a windy day!
Not sure what is worse - Having all that leggage exposed to Force 5 or submerged and exposed to currents?
Instinct makes me think Force 5 is worse.
I used to jack buildings up.
No pics, but a Finnish minelayer (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A4meenmaa-class_minelayer) came into the harbour this morning and now there's a submarine lurking just outside ??? Anything to do with the Russian flotilla (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-37706425?intlink_from_url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/39267b85-1784-4f4b-80ed-f8cb4a35f337/russia&link_location=live-reporting-story)?
I wouldn't be at all surprised.
The submarine has come into the harbour. It's Norwegian S301 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ula-class_submarine).
I've never seen a submarine in this harbour.
Exciting newish acquisition for the hatler household.
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Yup. Good spot. Fourteen feet of unalloyed tinkering pleasure and excitement.
Yup. Good spot. Fourteen feet of unalloyed tinkering pleasure and excitement.
Thank you. And they're the second best suit for club racing. Once I get the hang of sailing these things again I'll break out the good suit.Yup. Good spot. Fourteen feet of unalloyed tinkering pleasure and excitement.
Lovely! Nice looking sails from what I can see (I used to be a sailmaker a long time ago).
Do you mean that there are some there on a permanent basis ? Very cool if so.Yup. Good spot. Fourteen feet of unalloyed tinkering pleasure and excitement.
A few of them got here in North Brittany.
I envy you, the dinghy scene here is nowhere near as dynamic as in the UK. The only one design or rule box series that have a bit of traction are Optimist, Laser, Caravelle, HC16, Dart 18 and Formula 18. It's a shame, there are hundreds of Vaurien, 420, 470, Moth Europe, rotting in barns but people are not interested. I sail a laser because that's the most dynamic singlehanded serie and we tend to be about 10-15 boats attending local races, mostly youngsters say 80% aged less than 25.
Thank you. And they're the second best suit for club racing. Once I get the hang of sailing these things again I'll break out the good suit.Yup. Good spot. Fourteen feet of unalloyed tinkering pleasure and excitement.
Lovely! Nice looking sails from what I can see (I used to be a sailmaker a long time ago).
I considered heading into the boat industry years ago and had a long chat with an Essex based sailmaker about the trade. For a variety of reasons I ended up heading elsewhere though I'd always imagined that there must be a great deal of satisfaction (if not desperately remunerative) in making sails. Why did you move out of sailmaking (if that's not too personal a question) ?
The sailmaker I chatted to had worked his nuts off for years to build a decentish business. As sales grew they wanted to branch out into bigger sails, but needed a suitable sail loft. Local council were selling off a school in small lots, and one of the lots was the gym with a couple of ancillary buildings. Bids were by sealed lot. The sailmaker was successful (huzzah !) but only needed the gym, so they sold off the other two buildings. These buildings sold for more than he had paid for the entire lot. In fact, the profit on that one deal was the equivalent of two or three year's profit from the sailmaking business. It was that fact which determined my future didn't lie in the boat industry. (So I can well believe that you earned a pittance.)
Are you anywhere near Carnac ?Yup. Good spot. Fourteen feet of unalloyed tinkering pleasure and excitement.
A few of them got here in North Brittany.
I envy you, the dinghy scene here is nowhere near as dynamic as in the UK. The only one design or rule box series that have a bit of traction are Optimist, Laser, Caravelle, HC16, Dart 18 and Formula 18. It's a shame, there are hundreds of Vaurien, 420, 470, Moth Europe, rotting in barns but people are not interested. I sail a laser because that's the most dynamic singlehanded serie and we tend to be about 10-15 boats attending local races, mostly youngsters say 80% aged less than 25.
Are you anywhere near Carnac ?Yup. Good spot. Fourteen feet of unalloyed tinkering pleasure and excitement.
A few of them got here in North Brittany.
I envy you, the dinghy scene here is nowhere near as dynamic as in the UK. The only one design or rule box series that have a bit of traction are Optimist, Laser, Caravelle, HC16, Dart 18 and Formula 18. It's a shame, there are hundreds of Vaurien, 420, 470, Moth Europe, rotting in barns but people are not interested. I sail a laser because that's the most dynamic singlehanded serie and we tend to be about 10-15 boats attending local races, mostly youngsters say 80% aged less than 25.
A bunch of Merlins are apparently heading for the Carnac open dinghy meeting (http://www.merlinrocket.co.uk/index.asp?selection=Diary&eid=886) at the end of May.
Common as muck. (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=81504.msg1879550#msg1879550)
Oil platform 'life boats', IIRC.
This is in the harbour just now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_ship_Alliance_(A5345)
Surely with a Blodwyn Pig present the lost bolt was easy to find?
The Vikings have not landed.That is beautiful. Please tell us more.
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The Vikings have not landed.That is beautiful. Please tell us more.
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I didn't get a close look (wrong side of canal) but I really hope the tiller and throttle have been connected up to the car.
That's brilliant! Presumably the car is the boat's wheelhouse?
That's brilliant! Presumably the car is the boat's wheelhouse?
Shoreham-by-Sea has some interesting houseboats, cobbled together from transportation that was never intended to float on water....
Yup.Shouldn't that be Dar Młodzieży? I guess it sounds the same though, so all okay.
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
Correct.Yup.Shouldn't that be Dar Młodzieży? I guess it sounds the same though, so all okay.
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
I figured it was either keyboard or the kind of spello you make when you don't have to think about it. And people say phonetically spelled languages make writing easier!Correct.Yup.Shouldn't that be Dar Młodzieży? I guess it sounds the same though, so all okay.
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
My keyboard struggles with Polak accents.
Yup.In the words of my late father (Master Mariner), "There's two ways of doing a job - the wrong way and the right way."
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
Not sure that I'd be wanting to be crewing a boat with you in charge, H. ;)
It'd be easy enough to set up keys to write in Polak.I figured it was either keyboard or the kind of spello you make when you don't have to think about it. And people say phonetically spelled languages make writing easier!Correct.Yup.Shouldn't that be Dar Młodzieży? I guess it sounds the same though, so all okay.
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
My keyboard struggles with Polak accents.
That's nothing other than admirable.Yup.In the words of my late father (Master Mariner), "There's two ways of doing a job - the wrong way and the right way."
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
Not sure that I'd be wanting to be crewing a boat with you in charge, H. ;)
The ship I was on the crew never needed any prompting to make her as ship-shape and as beautiful as possible in port. Point of honour for all concerned.
Yup."The sort of people to be on a desert island with". The Friday Night ride as described by one hatler many years ago. Be careful what you wish for.
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
Not sure that I'd be wanting to be crewing a boat with you in charge, H. ;)
More than fair comment :)Yup."The sort of people to be on a desert island with". The Friday Night ride as described by one hatler many years ago. Be careful what you wish for.
Dar Mlodzierzy.
Gift of youth, or something similar.
Not sure that I'd be wanting to be crewing a boat with you in charge, H. ;)
ThisCamouflaged then?
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just rocked up in Lerwick harbour.
woss the problem?
Looks black and yellow and boaty from here.
Tip - they look bing in the harbour, they look tiny and frail when you're watching them bob up an down, from a platform halfway between Lerwick and Stavanger
The bit between tug and ship I would call a line.As ever, every day is a school day with you, Rob.
A sheet is a piece of rope used to control a sail.
I'm sure I read somewhere that the only rope on a sailing vessel is the bolt rope.
The bit between tug and ship I would call a line.The bell rope, I think.
A sheet is a piece of rope used to control a sail.
I'm sure I read somewhere that the only rope on a sailing vessel is the bolt rope.
The bit between tug and ship I would call a line.The bell rope, I think.
A sheet is a piece of rope used to control a sail.
I'm sure I read somewhere that the only rope on a sailing vessel is the bolt rope.
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''Marco Polo'' en -route to Tilbury
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48546483221_71724545fe_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gXTq8p)IMG_0857 (https://flic.kr/p/2gXTq8p) by mark tilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/yo_stumpy/), on FlickrMrs hatler was onboard Marco Polo for an Icelandic cruise recently. As cruise ships go I think she's fairly pretty.
''Marco Polo'' en -route to Tilbury
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48546483221_71724545fe_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2gXTq8p)IMG_0857 (https://flic.kr/p/2gXTq8p) by mark tilley (https://www.flickr.com/photos/yo_stumpy/), on FlickrMrs hatler was onboard Marco Polo for an Icelandic cruise recently. As cruise ships go I think she's fairly pretty.
''Marco Polo'' en -route to Tilbury
Wassat then ?'S a biggee.
Wassat then ?
A red thing and the Liver Building.We all live in a red submarine,
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It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.
Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.
It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.
Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.
Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.
We need the aircraft carriers to defend our EMPIRE against the godless heathens and the heathless godons. Perhaps...
It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.
Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.
Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.
I'm not sure why we need any carriers at all. Plenty of successful countries do without them and I'm sure the money could be well spent elsewhere, the NHS maybe? I'm probably missing something big which justifies the expense.
It'll look a bit more handsome with a deck full of F-35Bs and some close-in defence systems at each corner.
Mind you, having two proper carriers for the first time since both HMS Ark Royal (R09) and HMS Eagle (R05) were in service doesn't half highlight how few escorts the Navy has for them compared with the end of the Cold War, never mind the Falklands conflict. Another couple of Type 45 air defence destroyers wouldn't have gone amiss.
Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.
I'm not sure why we need any carriers at all. Plenty of successful countries do without them and I'm sure the money could be well spent elsewhere, the NHS maybe? I'm probably missing something big which justifies the expense.
There is a valid argument for having none but if you do have them you should have three. Even more bonkers is France with one carrier. Most of the time it doesn't have any it can use as its being repaired.
Perhaps we will have a third when one gets worn enough to need a refit?
Plus you really need three aircraft carriers not two. One on patrol, one working up to combat ready and the third in refit. Two results in quite a lot of time where you don't actually have one ready to do anything which will of course be exactly when you need one.
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The two happiest days in a boat owner's life ?
The day you buy her and the day you sell her.
I'm not sure I necessarily hold with that, but one of those two has just happened to me, which means I can line up the other one in short order. Huzzah !!
SOLD: Merlin Rocket 3545. A plastic NSM II. The last NSM II to be built (in 1996). Sold to a chap who wants to run it in the classic fleet. It's a good pond and river design (tacks well) but tends to dig deeper when the wind blows as opposed to skipping up on the plane. It takes weight well too (which the new owner needs).The two happiest days in a boat owner's life ?
The day you buy her and the day you sell her.
I'm not sure I necessarily hold with that, but one of those two has just happened to me, which means I can line up the other one in short order. Huzzah !!
We need details!
Bingo ! MR 3675 has a new home. Ticks all the boxes. String everywhere. ;) Single string raking, spinny poles that are set by pulling a string (and not having to fight to get the hook into the eye on the mast), lots of other amazing rope trickery.
Photos to follow.
Is this just a bizarre fuss about nothing - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-60256966
(Bezos boat needs a bridge temporarily removed.)
Two odd things about this.
1 Why on earth can't they step the mast once the boat's through the bridge ?
2 Why are the locals getting so upset ? They're not permanently removing the bridge, and some local people will do very well out of the work involved in the works. Seems like they are simply begrudging a bloke they'll never meet having a stack of cash to flash.
Check out this fella = https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/editorial-features/iconic-yacht-black-pearl
Yup. That's pretty special, but there's no place for romantic climbing the rigging exploits, which does remove some of the allure.Check out this fella = https://www.boatinternational.com/yachts/editorial-features/iconic-yacht-black-pearl
Beautiful and a very clever rig. There's THIS ONE TOO (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltese_Falcon_(yacht)).
Is this just a bizarre fuss about nothing - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-60256966
(Bezos boat needs a bridge temporarily removed.)
Two odd things about this.
1 Why on earth can't they step the mast once the boat's through the bridge ?
2 Why are the locals getting so upset ? They're not permanently removing the bridge, and some local people will do very well out of the work involved in the works. Seems like they are simply begrudging a bloke they'll never meet having a stack of cash to flash.
Unfortunately none of my own pictures as they've been busy and haven't updated the website but for those who grew up reading or more in my case grew up (a bit) and read swallows and amazons might find the below interesting. My two girls and me got to sail her on Windemere last summer. It was bloody brilliant even if they enjoyed it so much I was demoted to being Roger and didn't get a chance to sail her myself.That is splendid !!
https://www.sailransome.org/photos
And who wouldn't ?Is this just a bizarre fuss about nothing - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-60256966
(Bezos boat needs a bridge temporarily removed.)
Two odd things about this.
1 Why on earth can't they step the mast once the boat's through the bridge ?
2 Why are the locals getting so upset ? They're not permanently removing the bridge, and some local people will do very well out of the work involved in the works. Seems like they are simply begrudging a bloke they'll never meet having a stack of cash to flash.
It also sounds an awful lot like they're using it as an opportunity to perform maintenance on the bridge at Bezos' expense...
And who wouldn't ?Is this just a bizarre fuss about nothing - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-60256966
(Bezos boat needs a bridge temporarily removed.)
Two odd things about this.
1 Why on earth can't they step the mast once the boat's through the bridge ?
2 Why are the locals getting so upset ? They're not permanently removing the bridge, and some local people will do very well out of the work involved in the works. Seems like they are simply begrudging a bloke they'll never meet having a stack of cash to flash.
It also sounds an awful lot like they're using it as an opportunity to perform maintenance on the bridge at Bezos' expense...
Just finished the last one. Very good indeed. What a cool lad.Bingo ! MR 3675 has a new home. Ticks all the boxes. String everywhere. ;) Single string raking, spinny poles that are set by pulling a string (and not having to fight to get the hook into the eye on the mast), lots of other amazing rope trickery.
Photos to follow.
Looking forward to the photos :thumbsup:
Have you seen THESE VIDEOS? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yitwbMrB20&list=PLxZLbnIa1vVYtUdvTBNbDd5SSYS4ktUjF)
Not me, but this is the boat, taken at an open meeting at Whitstable in 2018.Bingo ! MR 3675 has a new home. Ticks all the boxes. String everywhere. ;) Single string raking, spinny poles that are set by pulling a string (and not having to fight to get the hook into the eye on the mast), lots of other amazing rope trickery.
Photos to follow.
Looking forward to the photos :thumbsup:
Just finished the last one. Very good indeed. What a cool lad.Bingo ! MR 3675 has a new home. Ticks all the boxes. String everywhere. ;) Single string raking, spinny poles that are set by pulling a string (and not having to fight to get the hook into the eye on the mast), lots of other amazing rope trickery.
Photos to follow.
Looking forward to the photos :thumbsup:
Have you seen THESE VIDEOS? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yitwbMrB20&list=PLxZLbnIa1vVYtUdvTBNbDd5SSYS4ktUjF)
Not me, but this is the boat, taken at an open meeting at Whitstable in 2018.Bingo ! MR 3675 has a new home. Ticks all the boxes. String everywhere. ;) Single string raking, spinny poles that are set by pulling a string (and not having to fight to get the hook into the eye on the mast), lots of other amazing rope trickery.
Photos to follow.
Looking forward to the photos :thumbsup:
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Proves the contention that yatchs mainly exist to provide a safe breeding ground for ropes.
Proves the contention that yatchs mainly exist to provide a safe breeding ground for ropes.
Having failed to duck on more than one occasion, I remain unconvinced by the 'safe'.
String ?? Which string?
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Proves the contention that yatchs mainly exist to provide a safe breeding ground for ropes.
Having failed to duck on more than one occasion, I remain unconvinced by the 'safe'.
Proves the contention that yatchs mainly exist to provide a safe breeding ground for ropes.
Having failed to duck on more than one occasion, I remain unconvinced by the 'safe'.
Were any ropes injured during the course of these incidents?
NiceOne of the highlights of my time aboard a square rigger was the 'set sail race'.
Those are very tall. I am full of admiration for the people whole did sail handling on them.
Gosh!
Tollesbury ! What a lovely spot. Our kids learnt to swim properly in the pool there. The sheds (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.759572,0.848611,3a,75y,50.68h,91.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sqUqDKOuLmBlrUu8jjsm4Xw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DqUqDKOuLmBlrUu8jjsm4Xw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D60.32294%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656) on the left as you approach the marina entrance were (I think) used as sail lofts for a British America's Cup attempt.
And there's more than enough room onboard for a Brompton for when you get to where you're going.
Do check the trailer's tyre pressures before setting off.
Yup. Getting to Bradwell is a bit of a pain.
BSC ? My second home. Mrs hatler sort of grew up there. When we go back for Club Week every year she catches up with all her mates who were cadets at the same time as her. And all their children are cadets, who will hopefully be doing the same thing in 30 years' time.
But you're right. Early on a marina makes life significantly easier as you're never quite sure what you might need, and being able to pop back to the car is worth every penny.
I do recall. Funny how moonlit encounters stick in the mind.Yup. Getting to Bradwell is a bit of a pain.
BSC ? My second home. Mrs hatler sort of grew up there. When we go back for Club Week every year she catches up with all her mates who were cadets at the same time as her. And all their children are cadets, who will hopefully be doing the same thing in 30 years' time.
But you're right. Early on a marina makes life significantly easier as you're never quite sure what you might need, and being able to pop back to the car is worth every penny.
When you next come down to The Blackwater do let me know and we'll see if we can meet up if you'd like to. We've met before, a long time ago, on a few FNRttCs if you recall.
Anyhow...
I do recall. Funny how moonlit encounters stick in the mind.Yup. Getting to Bradwell is a bit of a pain.
BSC ? My second home. Mrs hatler sort of grew up there. When we go back for Club Week every year she catches up with all her mates who were cadets at the same time as her. And all their children are cadets, who will hopefully be doing the same thing in 30 years' time.
But you're right. Early on a marina makes life significantly easier as you're never quite sure what you might need, and being able to pop back to the car is worth every penny.
When you next come down to The Blackwater do let me know and we'll see if we can meet up if you'd like to. We've met before, a long time ago, on a few FNRttCs if you recall.
Anyhow...
You're on. Club Week kicks off on Sunday 13th Aug and we will be around then. It'd be fun to show you round the club.
Drascombes are excellent boats. Yours has such an excellent history, I hope you can find time to do her justice.
MrsC has a hankering to get one (although I've pointed out to her that the lugger/cruiser aren't suitable for us, since they don't have lifting rudders).
We need to get a towhitch on the car.
Many of our desired sailing destinations are beaches (sandy or stony), gradually shelving. So being able to sail into shallow waters is pretty much a must.Drascombes are excellent boats. Yours has such an excellent history, I hope you can find time to do her justice.
MrsC has a hankering to get one (although I've pointed out to her that the lugger/cruiser aren't suitable for us, since they don't have lifting rudders).
We need to get a towhitch on the car.
Thanks for the kind words!
You can get kick up rudders but there’s still rudder under the boat unless you extract it fully. Mine has a hole in the blade so you can pull it up and pop a metal pin thru the hole and tiller sits vertically against the mizzen. This means there’s no rudder in the water but you don’t have the faff of extracting the whole thing.
That is lovely and well done.
I'm surprised by how far forward you have your sail. Is it balanced like that, or does the bow tend to blow off?
I'm envious. Looks great.
Sent you a follow request on Instagram, name of Alastairdent