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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #525 on: 09 November, 2009, 09:15:19 am »
Mrs. Wow refers to people as being "older" when she just means "old" but is trying to be polite. I'm not sure if it's a Northern phenomenon, restricted to Stalybridge or just some idiosyncratic nonsense from Mrs. Wow's Mad Mother.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #526 on: 09 November, 2009, 09:19:06 am »
If that truly is an Americanism, then it's a recent one (been away for a few years).  I've never heard newer/older used in such a way.
I lived there 97-01 and it is common in for sale adverts.  It is one of those  annoying (to me) things I now find in use in this country.  It is fairly recent, only the last year or so, and can even be found in use in for sale ads on this forum.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #527 on: 09 November, 2009, 09:20:24 am »
If that truly is an Americanism, then it's a recent one (been away for a few years).  I've never heard newer/older used in such a way.
I lived there 97-01 and it is common in for sale adverts.  It is one of those  annoying (to me) things I now find now in use in this country.  It is fairly recent, only the last year or so, and can even be found in use in for sale ads on this forum.

Interesting.  Can I ask where in the US?  I left in '99 and I never heard it; wonder if it's regional.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #528 on: 09 November, 2009, 09:33:43 am »
Interesting.  Can I ask where in the US?  I left in '99 and I never heard it; wonder if it's regional.
All up and down the West coast.  Here's an example, a "newer" house NWhomes

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #529 on: 09 November, 2009, 09:39:53 am »
Mrs. Wow refers to people as being "older" when she just means "old" but is trying to be polite. I'm not sure if it's a Northern phenomenon, restricted to Stalybridge or just some idiosyncratic nonsense from Mrs. Wow's Mad Mother.
I've also heard this, up north.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #530 on: 09 November, 2009, 09:41:18 am »
Interesting.  Can I ask where in the US?  I left in '99 and I never heard it; wonder if it's regional.
All up and down the West coast.  Here's an example, a "newer" house NWhomes

I see.  Well, they do funny things out on the Left Coast (born and bread Mid-Westerner speaking).
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #531 on: 09 November, 2009, 09:50:17 am »
Mrs. Wow refers to people as being "older" when she just means "old" but is trying to be polite. I'm not sure if it's a Northern phenomenon, restricted to Stalybridge or just some idiosyncratic nonsense from Mrs. Wow's Mad Mother.
I've also heard this, up north.

It sounds quite usual to me - very common usage in Yorkshire, I think.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #532 on: 09 November, 2009, 11:01:20 am »
Fish has 2 plurals too. Fish and fishes.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #533 on: 09 November, 2009, 11:01:40 am »
This includes the middle aged newsreader who used "one pence" one TV a few evenings ago.

Heard on BBC telly and radio respectively:

"Viscount", pronounced as spelled.

"Corps", pronounced as spelled.


Morons (pronounced as spelled).

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #534 on: 09 November, 2009, 01:34:07 pm »
The Toady program, this morning.

"Skill" is a noun.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #535 on: 09 November, 2009, 03:41:06 pm »
Fish has 2 plurals too. Fish and fishes.
And person.  Persons and People.  (Sort of)
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #536 on: 09 November, 2009, 03:51:07 pm »
Fish has 2 plurals too. Fish and fishes.
And person.  Persons and People.  (Sort of)

People has a plural.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #537 on: 10 November, 2009, 10:00:25 am »
Isn't an elision different from a contraction?  As in saying for examples:-

"vegtable" instead of "vegatable" or "librey" instead of "library" are elisions which may be pronounced but not written whereas "can't" for "cannot" is a contraction which can be written.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #538 on: 10 November, 2009, 10:18:24 am »
People has a plural.

Should that be "People have a plural"? ;)

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #539 on: 10 November, 2009, 12:11:36 pm »
Newsagents, stationers, poundshops and assorted retailers of West London:

You sell many items.  You thrive on variety.  There is little that cannot be sourced along the Uxbridge Road by the determined shopper.

However, whilst I acknowledge the surge in popularity of homegrown veg, keeping chickens, starting allotments and even the odd pig here and there, take it from me.  None of you are selling 2010 dairies as advertised.

H'mkay?

Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #540 on: 10 November, 2009, 01:47:52 pm »
None of you are selling 2010 dairies as advertised.
Is some great advance in milk processing technology imminent?  ???

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #541 on: 10 November, 2009, 04:15:09 pm »


However, whilst I acknowledge the surge in popularity of homegrown veg, keeping chickens, starting allotments and even the odd pig here and there, take it from me.  None of you are selling 2010 dairies as advertised.

H'mkay?
I bet the signs actually say "dairy's" or "dairie's."
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #542 on: 10 November, 2009, 04:56:58 pm »
Greg is normally on the ball. Tesco is a company, therefore I think it should be:

Tesco also produces a 'local farmers' milk ...

Tesco sells milk produced by cows on local farms. ;)
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #543 on: 10 November, 2009, 05:03:39 pm »
None of you are selling 2010 dairies as advertised.

I hesitate to correct m'learned friend, but "none", being an abbreviation of "not one", requires a singular verb. :-*
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #544 on: 12 November, 2009, 09:46:44 am »
This includes the middle aged newsreader who used "one pence" one TV a few evenings ago.

Heard on BBC telly and radio respectively:

"Viscount", pronounced as spelled.

"Corps", pronounced as spelled.


Morons (pronounced as spelled).
When finding the corpse of more than one such aristocrat, you can do a discount (not pronounced as spelled).
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #545 on: 12 November, 2009, 09:55:46 am »
Pressurised.

You can do it to chambers. You can do it to gases. You can't do it to a farrowing house.

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Mortality is unacceptably high. This area needs to be pressurised.

No it doesn't. It needs greater attention to be paid, it needs greater staff focus, it needs prioritising, it needs a procedural/ medication review. It might even need condemning, but it doesn't need to be pressurised. If it did, we'd need to rebuild the sheds to be air and water tight, and that would be dreadful for the poor little piglets.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #546 on: 12 November, 2009, 11:08:54 am »
Pressurised.

You can do it to chambers. You can do it to gases. You can't do it to a farrowing house.

Quote from: The Vet.
Mortality is unacceptably high. This area needs to be pressurised.

No it doesn't. It needs greater attention to be paid, it needs greater staff focus, it needs prioritising, it needs a procedural/ medication review. It might even need condemning, but it doesn't need to be pressurised. If it did, we'd need to rebuild the sheds to be air and water tight, and that would be dreadful for the poor little piglets.
Tcha.

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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #547 on: 12 November, 2009, 09:33:09 pm »
"Critique" as a verb.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #548 on: 19 November, 2009, 06:29:59 am »
Heard yesterday: "You have been involved in two pop-culture phenomenons."

Normally these Latinate plurals don't bother me either way - I don't mind when bacteria is used as a singular, say. I don't think I'd mind if they'd said "phenomenas" but "phenomenons" really grates.
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Re: Grammar that makes you cringe
« Reply #549 on: 19 November, 2009, 07:25:39 am »
And I don't know if "don't disgard it"
Gold at $5,000 an ounce? Don't disgard it - Telegraph
 means "don't discard it" or "don't disgregard it".
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