Author Topic: Brevet RTY 2500 anyone?  (Read 1371 times)

Manotea

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Re: Brevet RTY 2500 anyone?
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2018, 09:12:15 am »
There is no answer to the question, what is long distance...

What we do have are standard event categories. Less than a 200km is a BP (which don't exist in ACP land) and 200km and over are BR.

ACP have declared Randonneur a title/reserved word.. personally, I wouldn't get hung up on that.

grahamparks

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Re: Brevet RTY 2500 anyone?
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2018, 09:17:11 am »
Suggestion: Start a thread on here. Call it “Audax-a-month club” or something. Everyone can choose their own format (within the 12 consecutive months framework). If it’s popular you can think about formalising an award in a year or two.

(I would be up for this)

Re: Brevet RTY 2500 anyone?
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2018, 09:37:31 am »
Suggestion: Start a thread on here. Call it “Audax-a-month club” or something. Everyone can choose their own format (within the 12 consecutive months framework). If it’s popular you can think about formalising an award in a year or two.

(I would be up for this)

We should start in October all together to keep things simpler...

Manotea

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Re: Brevet RTY 2500 anyone?
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2018, 10:10:24 am »
Though I wouldn't mandate it, it definitely makes sense to start a RRTY effort in the autumn if possible. That way if things go pear-shaped over winter you've too lost much.

( I'm another with two 11 month streaks ending in December! As much my fault as the weather, though)

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Re: Brevet RTY 2500 anyone?
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2018, 11:06:23 am »
Though I wouldn't mandate it, it definitely makes sense to start a RRTY effort in the autumn if possible.

But we're not talking about RRTY ...
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Re: Brevet RTY 2500 anyone?
« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2018, 11:09:41 am »
Though I wouldn't mandate it, it definitely makes sense to start a RRTY effort in the autumn if possible.

But we're not talking about RRTY ...

Correct, it cannot begin with an R, it needs to be a BRTY or something more inspiring

Re: Brevet RTY 2500 anyone?
« Reply #31 on: June 01, 2018, 09:02:53 am »
I've done 90km on studded tyres... I wonder how masochistic it would be to try a 200 on them...

I've done a few 200s on studded tyres. It's good training!

On the one calendar ride where I rode on studs, and was the only rider to do so, I was glad of it. Most other riders fell off on some of the icy lanes and I could push on where they were taking it easy in an attempt to stay upright.


Re: Brevet RTY 2500 anyone?
« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2018, 12:34:19 pm »
Not really liking the original post. I am 8 months into my first RRTY attempt and I really had to make a big effort to get through Jan to March dealing with illness, weather, mechanicals etc.

Having an "equivalent" award which does not require winter riding seems a bit of a cop out.

I think consideration could be given to making the Brevet 2000 a season based award rather than all time. This would allow riders to do the bulk of their riding in the warmer months.

I would also support a RTY 12 x 100 award. Some posters have said that this would be difficult to administer but I would think that the bulk of this could be automated? Interested to understand more about the issues with admin relating to this.

Re: Brevet RTY 2500 anyone?
« Reply #33 on: June 10, 2018, 12:38:33 pm »

Having an "equivalent" award which does not require winter riding seems a bit of a cop out.



Who said it is equivalent? It cannot be equivalent if it not the same thing. AAASR and SR are almost equivalent, but they are different awards

Re: Brevet RTY 2500 anyone?
« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2018, 07:10:53 pm »
Maybe an AAA RTY?

Any brevet of any distance as long as it has AAA points x 12 consecutive months

Re: Brevet RTY 2500 anyone?
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2018, 11:04:30 pm »
Given the popularity of RRTY, I was thiking what could be an alternative, more flexible award, based on the round the year concept... so I came up with this

12 consecutive brevets in as many months, can be BP, BR or BRM (and of course all Perms and DIY count)... only one brevet per calendar month can be claimed and it is counted in integer points (100 km or more = 1 point, 200 km or more = 2 points and so on). The total for the year needs to be at least 25 points, to avoid any RRTY to be an automatic BRTY 2500 too. As a consequence, at least one ride needs to be a 300 or longer, but equally many can be BP 100.

Thoughts?

I wonder what the number of RRTY awardees that did not do a single 200km ride in the year is. I suspect it's a very small proportion, so I'd be quite surprised if there more than a handfull of riders who achieved rrty who wouldn't have got 25 points across 12 rides.
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bhoot

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Re: Brevet RTY 2500 anyone?
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2018, 11:15:33 pm »
Maybe an AAA RTY?

Any brevet of any distance as long as it has AAA points x 12 consecutive months

It already exists... See http://www.aukweb.net/results/aaa/aaawds/aaartyroll/


bhoot

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Re: Brevet RTY 2500 anyone?
« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2018, 11:20:25 pm »
Given the popularity of RRTY, I was thiking what could be an alternative, more flexible award, based on the round the year concept... so I came up with this

12 consecutive brevets in as many months, can be BP, BR or BRM (and of course all Perms and DIY count)... only one brevet per calendar month can be claimed and it is counted in integer points (100 km or more = 1 point, 200 km or more = 2 points and so on). The total for the year needs to be at least 25 points, to avoid any RRTY to be an automatic BRTY 2500 too. As a consequence, at least one ride needs to be a 300 or longer, but equally many can be BP 100.

Thoughts?

I wonder what the number of RRTY awardees that did not do a single 200km ride in the year is. I suspect it's a very small proportion, so I'd be quite surprised if there more than a handfull of riders who achieved rrty who wouldn't have got 25 points across 12 rides.

If you check out the RRtY stats in Arrivee 139 then it has the number of claims which were people riding one ride per month and doing exclusively 200km rides.... I think quite a few members don't have time to complete many rides but do focus on RRtY.

Re: Brevet RTY 2500 anyone?
« Reply #38 on: June 15, 2018, 06:01:56 am »
Maybe an AAA RTY?

Any brevet of any distance as long as it has AAA points x 12 consecutive months

It already exists... See http://www.aukweb.net/results/aaa/aaawds/aaartyroll/

Ha... I didn't spot that... I am onto the case then...  ;D