Author Topic: what I have learned today. (Read 864431 times)

Mr Larrington · « **Reply #3425 on:** 09 May, 2019, 03:00:57 pm »

That Saab built a small number (n<50) of 99s fitted with the 3.0L Triumph V8.

Torslanda · « **Reply #3426 on:** 09 May, 2019, 03:34:31 pm »

Interesting. So - in theory - a Rover V8 4.6 litre 99 is a possibility.

fx:maniacal laughter from a suburban shed

Ham · « **Reply #3427 on:** 09 May, 2019, 04:11:08 pm »

Like er...um....

Torslanda · « **Reply #3428 on:** 09 May, 2019, 04:55:53 pm »

You need help...

Cudzoziemiec · « **Reply #3429 on:** 09 May, 2019, 05:07:18 pm »

Your grasp on reality is flakey...

FifeingEejit · « **Reply #3430 on:** 09 May, 2019, 05:12:20 pm »

Quote from: Mr Larrington on 09 May, 2019, 03:00:57 pm

That Saab built a small number (n<50) of 99s fitted with the 3.0L Triumph V8.

Yes, the Saab B and H engines were developments of the Ricardo engine that was financed by both Saab and BL.

The in-line 4 and V8 were both part of that project so the I4 engine is sometimes referred to as being half the V8. (there was a few iterations and size increases before the 2 litre H engine)

Saab were going to use the V8 but after testing decided on turbo charging the I4 instead.

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FifeingEejit · « **Reply #3431 on:** 09 May, 2019, 05:19:14 pm »

Quote from: Torslanda on 09 May, 2019, 03:34:31 pm

Interesting. So - in theory - a Rover V8 4.6 litre 99 is a possibility.

fx:maniacal laughter from a suburban shed

No the Rover V8 is a different engine from the Ricardo developed Triumph one, iirc its a development of an American V8 related to but not the legendary Hemi.

The Saab engine bays are so bit though...
Projects I remember seeing are:
900 16v Turbo engine (the 250bhp development of the Riccardo that Saab limited due to the limits of FWD not engine capability) cramped into a 99 engine bay.

Ford Essex V6 fitted to a 96V4, though the Cologne/Taunus V4 is related to a German Ford V6

900 Turbo T16s with waste gates removed, that was erm interesting.

Erm that's it... I've been away from SAABs a while now.

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ElyDave · « **Reply #3432 on:** 09 May, 2019, 08:08:48 pm »

the rover V8 as used in the P4, P5, P6 B was derived from a Buick engine, hence the designator

not sure if that was also used in the land rover. a client of mine a few weeks back had a LR deafener V8 that was 4.6 vs the usual 3.5l V8. I didn't get to hear it, just drooled in my own mind

Jurek · « **Reply #3433 on:** 09 May, 2019, 08:55:24 pm »

Ricardo continue to do extraordinary vehicular stuff in my niece's home town of Shoreham-by-Sea.
ETA - the Triumph Stag V8 engine was, essentially, a racing engine IIRC - ie: a full rebuild following every event.

hatler · « **Reply #3434 on:** 09 May, 2019, 10:54:04 pm »

Wasn't the Dolomite 1850 half the Stag V8 ?

IIRC that was designed by BL engineers to a design brief from Saab.

A fellow Mech Eng student ended up working with one of the designers. (Sadly though, he failed to carry out my instruction to throttle him, following too many hours/days/weekends spent trying to mend a Dolly 1850.)

ElyDave · « **Reply #3435 on:** 10 May, 2019, 07:27:33 am »

wasn't it a case of the Stag V8 being two dollie engines welded together?

FifeingEejit · « **Reply #3436 on:** 10 May, 2019, 07:30:19 am »

Quote from: ElyDave on 10 May, 2019, 07:27:33 am

wasn't it a case of the Stag V8 being two dollie engines welded together?

Sounds like BL people thinking the opposite way round from Saab people.

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FifeingEejit · « **Reply #3437 on:** 10 May, 2019, 07:40:03 am »

Quote from: ElyDave on 09 May, 2019, 08:08:48 pm

the rover V8 as used in the P4, P5, P6 B was derived from a Buick engine, hence the designator

not sure if that was also used in the land rover. a client of mine a few weeks back had a LR deafener V8 that was 4.6 vs the usual 3.5l V8. I didn't get to hear it, just drooled in my own mind

Navigated in a V8 series 1 military Landy on a couple of occasions... One of the few to get back in after the first, I'd forgotten how terrifying it was the second time I said I'd do it.

Can't remember which V8 was in it, edelbrock carbs, lifted wheels for fun...

The door bolt failed mid-test while doing a loop of a cone in the lion enclosure at Lowther safari Park...

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T42 · « **Reply #3438 on:** 10 May, 2019, 07:53:40 am »

Stags and dollies? Sounds like a rather rude night out.

Mr Larrington · « **Reply #3439 on:** 10 May, 2019, 03:21:25 pm »

Quote from: FifeingEejit on 09 May, 2019, 05:19:14 pm

Quote from: Torslanda on 09 May, 2019, 03:34:31 pm
Interesting. So - in theory - a Rover V8 4.6 litre 99 is a possibility.

fx:maniacal laughter from a suburban shed
No the Rover V8 is a different engine from the Ricardo developed Triumph one, iirc its a development of an American V8 related to but not the legendary Hemi.

Though using Rover V8s to revitalise dying Snags was a popular cottage industry. Doubtless a Man in a Sheds is e'en now plotting the unholy marriage of a TVR-spec 5.0 and a 99

A similar cottage industry in USAnia was dropping 5.0 Ford V8s into Volvos. My chum Bill had one. Sports car owners do not like being outdragged by Swedish Bricks.

L-R has used the Rover, BMW and Jaguar petrol V8s in Range Rovers and their ilk over the years but AFAIK V8 Defenders all had the Rover one unless it was an aftermarket conversion. A small-block Chevy fits nicely.

Cudzoziemiec · « **Reply #3440 on:** 10 May, 2019, 03:25:51 pm »

Quote from: T42 on 10 May, 2019, 07:53:40 am

Stags and dollies? Sounds like a rather rude night out.

In about 1974?

ElyDave · « **Reply #3441 on:** 10 May, 2019, 04:16:25 pm »

is this the ultimate Ovlov?

https://www.volvocars.com/uk/about/our-company/heritage/heritage-models/29-262

Body of a 2-door 240 series, but with a straight 6 in it. Not long after the Christchurch earthquake I saw a rare RHD one of these lingering at the bottom of an unstable cliff, behind Heras fencing. Looked in good nick and would have been highly saleable back here.

Torslanda · « **Reply #3442 on:** 11 May, 2019, 06:33:36 am »

Er... No!

ElyDave · « **Reply #3443 on:** 11 May, 2019, 08:47:56 am »

Don't say the T5 touring car estates, please! P1800ES - looks ok, performance middling

I do like the 262C as well, but I'm much more a fan of the classics than the modern.

Torslanda · « **Reply #3444 on:** 11 May, 2019, 11:28:48 am »

Real world would be a 240 Turbo, which we never got in the UK.

Ultimate performance would be Volvette

Jurek · « **Reply #3445 on:** 11 May, 2019, 11:45:21 am »

Quote from: Torslanda on 11 May, 2019, 11:28:48 am

Real world would be a 240 Turbo, which we never got in the UK.

Ultimate performance would be Volvette

Whoa!

Mr Larrington · « **Reply #3446 on:** 11 May, 2019, 11:52:18 am »

Quote from: ElyDave on 11 May, 2019, 08:47:56 am

Don't say the T5 touring car estates, please! P1800ES - looks ok, performance middling

I do like the 262C as well, but I'm much more a fan of the classics than the modern.

A neighbour in Leytonstone had a 262C. Only needed a gun turret and you were all set to invade Norway.

Jakob W · « **Reply #3447 on:** 11 May, 2019, 12:04:42 pm »

Someone over on LFGSS has a 940 or 960 estate with a silly turbo fitted and other mods; looks stock (if pristine) from the outside, but apparently it will burn off 911s etc. quite happily on the autobahn, and you can get it to wheelspin at motorway speeds if you downshift and let the turbo kick in...

Jurek · « **Reply #3448 on:** 11 May, 2019, 12:29:40 pm »

Quote from: Jakob W on 11 May, 2019, 12:04:42 pm

Someone over on LFGSS has a 940 or 960 estate with a silly turbo fitted and other mods; looks stock (if pristine) from the outside, but apparently it will burn off 911s etc. quite happily on the autobahn, and you can get it to wheelspin at motorway speeds if you downshift and let the turbo kick in...

Neil. He lives just up the road from me. He also has either a Carrera or 911 - I forget which.

Jakob W · « **Reply #3449 on:** 11 May, 2019, 02:11:02 pm »

Quote from: Jurek on 11 May, 2019, 12:29:40 pm

Quote from: Jakob W on 11 May, 2019, 12:04:42 pm
Someone over on LFGSS has a 940 or 960 estate with a silly turbo fitted and other mods; looks stock (if pristine) from the outside, but apparently it will burn off 911s etc. quite happily on the autobahn, and you can get it to wheelspin at motorway speeds if you downshift and let the turbo kick in...
Neil. He lives just up the road from me. He also has either a Carrera or 911 - I forget which.

Yeah; I think he sold the Volvo to another forumite, but is now working on silly mods for his 1990s 911 cabrio.