Author Topic: Edinburgh Tram Tracks  (Read 5004 times)

Kim

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Re: Edinburgh Tram Tracks
« Reply #25 on: 21 March, 2017, 12:57:23 pm »
Croydon avoids tram track-related cycling injuries by simply not having any cyclists.

This is the model Birmingham has been following, fending the cyclists away with an assortment of confusing magic paint and blue sign bollocks.
Are the cycle lanes between the tram tracks and pavement appropriate?

No, they're bloody stupid.


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Any team that passes a cyclist here will pass too close, as per all police close pass initiatives.

I don't think there's actually room for the tram to pass a cyclist at that point.  Hopefully the tram drivers know that.


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Do they expect the tram to progress at the pace of cyclists?

Pretty much.  The whole area is crawling with zombie and lemming pedestrians, so it's not the cyclists slowing them down.

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Re: Edinburgh Tram Tracks
« Reply #26 on: 21 March, 2017, 01:11:10 pm »
One way streets that are two way for bikes, without marked lanes, work well in Paris.

The Man did this to some of the roads round the back of Larrington Towers.  Without telling anyone or anything.  One day some bicycles were painted on the tarmac, but they didn't get round to putting up signs for a couple of months.  The roads in question are narrow enough that it is not possibe for a car and bicycle to pass one another, connect nowhere to nowhere and have an alternative that allows you to end up in the same place without needing to manoeuvre past an oncoming bin lorry.  Definitely WFBC falling into the Facility of Utter Pointlessness trap.
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Re: Edinburgh Tram Tracks
« Reply #27 on: 21 March, 2017, 01:18:30 pm »
Many Parisien minor streets are similarly narrow. It does mean that cyclists can turn into just about any Parisien street, regardless of it being one-way or not, to take the shortest route to your destination.
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Re: Edinburgh Tram Tracks
« Reply #28 on: 21 March, 2017, 01:21:36 pm »
Contraflow cycling works okay if the motorists are expecting it.  Making it a city-wide thing is good.  Doing it to a couple of roads, with blind corners and right turns into shared paths, much less so.  DAHIKT.

Re: Edinburgh Tram Tracks
« Reply #29 on: 22 March, 2017, 11:54:13 am »
My major objection to contraflow cycling is that it takes a road with two narrow lanes and turns it into a road with a really wide lane plus cyclists coming the other way.

We clocked one car doing over 60mph in a 20mph zone down a one way street. They wouldn't have tried it when it was too way because it looked much more dangerous with oncoming traffic coming the other way - but ironically was safer, because everything was going slower.

They should just filter the road to cars completely instead of constructing one-way mazes and force cars to travel round the outside of residential zones instead of through them.

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Re: Edinburgh Tram Tracks
« Reply #30 on: 22 March, 2017, 11:58:04 am »
Modal filtering is often the best solution. Not always but often.
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