Wonder how Froome managed to crash?
It isn't *necessary* to have a camera moto (or support moto) in such close proximity. They always have the option of dropping back etc.Their prime directive is 'first do no harm'. I think we are starting to see more and closer TV, and a new generation of moto pilots who do not have the experience (and directors pushing for ever closer footage) leading to more incidents.
Dave, I know it gets joked about a lot but have you any idea what he is doing when he keeps looking down? Is it a wattage read out or just a Paula Radcliffe-type thing? Whatever it is, it must be a bad thing to be coninually taking your eye "off the ball" like that.
Quote from: David Martin on 01 September, 2015, 10:42:12 amIt isn't *necessary* to have a camera moto (or support moto) in such close proximity. They always have the option of dropping back etc.Their prime directive is 'first do no harm'. I think we are starting to see more and closer TV, and a new generation of moto pilots who do not have the experience (and directors pushing for ever closer footage) leading to more incidents.Yet (as you well know!) riders will crash without any cameras or motorbikes (e.g. closed circuits).Surely the riders have an equally prime directive of "finish the stage/race" - yet many fail in this through their own fault (or that of other riders). They also always have the option of dropping back.
Oleg Tinkof has apologized to Chris Froome for saying he rode 'like a girl' yesterday. As far as I know, he hasn't apologized to girls yet.
Quote from: mattc on 03 September, 2015, 10:13:12 amQuote from: David Martin on 01 September, 2015, 10:42:12 amIt isn't *necessary* to have a camera moto (or support moto) in such close proximity. They always have the option of dropping back etc.Their prime directive is 'first do no harm'. I think we are starting to see more and closer TV, and a new generation of moto pilots who do not have the experience (and directors pushing for ever closer footage) leading to more incidents.Yet (as you well know!) riders will crash without any cameras or motorbikes (e.g. closed circuits).Surely the riders have an equally prime directive of "finish the stage/race" - yet many fail in this through their own fault (or that of other riders). They also always have the option of dropping back.Racers dropping back shouldn't be the solution though.
But Quintana isn't liekly to be drawing his pension any time soon..They are both eligible for the young rider category.
Quote from: fuzzy (retd.) AAGE on 03 September, 2015, 10:17:06 amQuote from: mattc on 03 September, 2015, 10:13:12 amQuote from: David Martin on 01 September, 2015, 10:42:12 amIt isn't *necessary* to have a camera moto (or support moto) in such close proximity. They always have the option of dropping back etc.Their prime directive is 'first do no harm'. I think we are starting to see more and closer TV, and a new generation of moto pilots who do not have the experience (and directors pushing for ever closer footage) leading to more incidents.Yet (as you well know!) riders will crash without any cameras or motorbikes (e.g. closed circuits).Surely the riders have an equally prime directive of "finish the stage/race" - yet many fail in this through their own fault (or that of other riders). They also always have the option of dropping back.Racers dropping back shouldn't be the solution though.I think you've misunderstood me: I meant that most crashes between RIDERS could be avoided by the riders dropping back i.e. not riding dangerously close to each-other.Of course that would totally change the nature of bunch racing. But it would be safer; in fact, it would be safer than the current setup, despite the occasional horrendous misjudgement by a moto-rider.(I'm not saying that the motons' driving can't be improved - but its a fact that their presence is an integral part of professional televised racing. )
Although I read that both the recent Astana upsets were TVE moto's.
(Can anyone get excited about TofB while this race is still going? )
Quote from: Nuncio on 03 September, 2015, 11:42:04 amOleg Tinkof has apologized to Chris Froome for saying he rode 'like a girl' yesterday. As far as I know, he hasn't apologized to girls yet.I thought he doubled down and pontificated that girls shouldn't race at all?
Quote from: Dibdib on 03 September, 2015, 12:13:10 pmQuote from: Nuncio on 03 September, 2015, 11:42:04 amOleg Tinkof has apologized to Chris Froome for saying he rode 'like a girl' yesterday. As far as I know, he hasn't apologized to girls yet.I thought he doubled down and pontificated that girls shouldn't race at all?Has anyone ever seen Oleg Tinkov and Donald Trump in the same room together?
Never mind about all of that chaps. What about that stage finish yesterday!! How steep!? 21.67% to be precise at some point it was. I'd need all the drugs on offer to get up those hills!! Well done Frank Schhhhhleck!
It's Dumoulin Rouge!