Author Topic: Bye Lance (Read 283689 times)

GruB · « **Reply #150 on:** 26 May, 2011, 03:26:30 pm »

Quote from: Raminphrikesh Pharghangitalivati on 26 May, 2011, 01:59:53 pm

Quote from: Ian H on 26 May, 2011, 01:47:04 pm
All this is nearly as fascinating as the racing.

With all the accusations about UCI accepting money to conceal failed tests into the bargain, I'd say it's seismic for the sport.

Will we see a breakaway movement?

The papers may actually pick this up alongside the FA allegation of FIFA corruption as well.

Seineseeker · « **Reply #151 on:** 26 May, 2011, 04:30:02 pm »

I hope you are right RP. If the UCI gets done at the same time, it will good for the sport.

Just seen Contador's case might be after the TdF. He could win both tours and then be disqualified, the whole sport is a farce at times. But I still watch it.

Hot Flatus · « **Reply #152 on:** 26 May, 2011, 05:44:25 pm »

It's a great sport, but the politics are fascinating too.

Its all about money, though. The Swiss gov are embarrassed by the various sports bodies registered in Switzerland that are being exposed. Be interesting to see if this issue and the flexing of muscles between teams and the UCI gets things going

Tewdric · « **Reply #153 on:** 27 May, 2011, 10:10:48 am »

it's getting increasingly farcical:

Prudhomme Surprised By Delay In Contador Hearing | Cyclingnews.com

It will be interesting to see how the french fans react to him if he rides the TdF. I suspect dangling meat from a fishing rod might be the thin end of the wedge.

Hot Flatus · « **Reply #154 on:** 27 May, 2011, 10:22:37 am »

Yes, they won't mince their words with the credibility of their race at stake.

Rhys W · « **Reply #155 on:** 27 May, 2011, 10:32:45 am »

It's rare for them to give somebody a grilling though, but well done to them if they do.

Cudzoziemiec · « **Reply #156 on:** 27 May, 2011, 10:34:29 am »

Quote from: Raminphrikesh Pharghangitalivati on 26 May, 2011, 05:44:25 pm

It's a great sport, but the politics are fascinating too.

Its all about money, though. The Swiss gov are embarrassed by the various sports bodies registered in Switzerland that are being exposed. Be interesting to see if this issue and the flexing of muscles between teams and the UCI gets things going

UCI, FIFA, and all those banks. There's a reason they're all in the same place.

Rhys W · « **Reply #157 on:** 27 May, 2011, 11:09:31 am »

Looks like there was a meeting to discuss "suspect" samples, but it doesn't tally with Tyler Hamilton's account.

Swiss lab director confirms meeting Bruyneel and Armstrong over "suspect" samples - cyclingnews.com

hatler · « **Reply #158 on:** 27 May, 2011, 11:22:45 am »

Quote from: Cudzoziemiec on 27 May, 2011, 10:34:29 am

Quote from: Raminphrikesh Pharghangitalivati on 26 May, 2011, 05:44:25 pm
It's a great sport, but the politics are fascinating too.

Its all about money, though. The Swiss gov are embarrassed by the various sports bodies registered in Switzerland that are being exposed. Be interesting to see if this issue and the flexing of muscles between teams and the UCI gets things going
UCI, FIFA, and all those banks. There's a reason they're all in the same place.

And let's not forget the IOC.

Hot Flatus · « **Reply #159 on:** 13 June, 2011, 04:50:58 pm »

Hamilton Not Welcome at Aspen Restaurant After Armstrong Argument | Daily Lance | Bicycling.com

Seineseeker · « **Reply #160 on:** 13 June, 2011, 05:49:26 pm »

Quote from: Raminphrikesh Pharghangitalivati on 13 June, 2011, 04:50:58 pm

Hamilton Not Welcome at Aspen Restaurant After Armstrong Argument | Daily Lance | Bicycling.com

Bit bizarre. You can finish your meal but don't come back!? Pity no-one caught it on their mobile phone.

Hot Flatus · « **Reply #161 on:** 13 June, 2011, 05:55:28 pm »

Restaurant owner is a friend of Armstrongs...

...wonder how he got to hear that Hamilton was eating there

Jakob · « **Reply #162 on:** 13 June, 2011, 06:11:25 pm »

Quote from: Seineseeker on 13 June, 2011, 05:49:26 pm

Quote from: Raminphrikesh Pharghangitalivati on 13 June, 2011, 04:50:58 pm
Hamilton Not Welcome at Aspen Restaurant After Armstrong Argument | Daily Lance | Bicycling.com

Bit bizarre. You can finish your meal but don't come back!? Pity no-one caught it on their mobile phone.

Hmm? Would the other way have been better (Get out now, but please come back)?

GruB · « **Reply #163 on:** 13 June, 2011, 06:19:47 pm »

Quote from: Raminphrikesh Pharghangitalivati on 13 June, 2011, 05:55:28 pm

Restaurant owner is a friend of Armstrongs...

...wonder how he got to hear that Hamilton was eating there

On the other hand, what better for the press to ensure Hamilton goes to an Aspen restaurant with the owner being a friend of LA? I expect LA's solicitor has advised him to have no contact etc to avoid any more publicity.

Seineseeker · « **Reply #164 on:** 13 June, 2011, 06:46:23 pm »

Quote from: Jakob on 13 June, 2011, 06:11:25 pm

Quote from: Seineseeker on 13 June, 2011, 05:49:26 pm
Quote from: Raminphrikesh Pharghangitalivati on 13 June, 2011, 04:50:58 pm
Hamilton Not Welcome at Aspen Restaurant After Armstrong Argument | Daily Lance | Bicycling.com

Bit bizarre. You can finish your meal but don't come back!? Pity no-one caught it on their mobile phone.

Hmm? Would the other way have been better (Get out now, but please come back)?

Wasn't it obvious who it was beforehand, he was running some cycling clinic/event in Aspen. Anyway it matters not, what is Lance doing confronting him? Or even going near him. Makes a nice story tho.

Nuncio · « **Reply #165 on:** 15 June, 2011, 11:55:12 am »

FBI interested in the altercation: FBI Set To Scrutinise Armstrong-Hamilton Altercation | Cyclingnews.com

Riggers · « **Reply #166 on:** 15 June, 2011, 11:59:39 am »

The FBI! What in tarnation have they got to do with it!!? Did they step across State lines when having the argument? Kidnap somebody? Grand theft auto, again, across State borders?

I dunno.

The world has gone mad hasn't it?

Nuncio · « **Reply #167 on:** 15 June, 2011, 01:14:49 pm »

Possible intimidation of a witness involved in a federal investigation, the possible charges of which could be "conspiracy, wire fraud, money laundering, racketeering, drug trafficking and defrauding the U.S. government".

Riggers · « **Reply #168 on:** 16 June, 2011, 11:25:43 am »

Well, I suppose it keeps them busy doing something.

Jakob · « **Reply #169 on:** 16 June, 2011, 06:28:41 pm »

According to the Danish newspapers, none of the witnesses collaborates Hamilton's story and Hamilton came over to talk to Armstrong (Who was sitting at the bar).

Hot Flatus · « **Reply #170 on:** 16 July, 2011, 07:42:29 am »

Landis interview for anyone interested

Floyd Landis Full Episode - Yahoo! Sports

Rhys W · « **Reply #171 on:** 13 June, 2012, 10:05:19 pm »

The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency brought formal doping charges against former cyclist Lance Armstrong - Washington Post

Quote

The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency brought formal doping charges against former cyclist Lance Armstrong in an action that could cost him his seven Tour de France titles, according to a letter sent to Armstrong and several others Tuesday.

As a result of the charges, Armstrong has been immediately banned from competition in triathlons, a sport he took up after his retirement from cycling in 2011.

In the 15-page charging letter obtained by The Post, USADA made previously unpublicized allegations against Armstrong, alleging it collected blood samples from Armstrong in 2009 and 2010 that were “fully consistent with blood manipulation including EPO use and/or blood transfusions.” Armstrong has never tested positive.

The evidence seems a bit flimsy to me, I don't know how they think it'll stick this time.

spesh · « **Reply #172 on:** 13 June, 2012, 10:21:31 pm »

What's interesting is who else USADA are fingering in the letter - Bruyneel, Ferrari, a current Team RadioSchleck doctor and someone was (and still is) Contador's coach.

As I posted in the other Lance thread, this could make for lively racing forum viewing.

spesh · « **Reply #173 on:** 13 June, 2012, 11:10:58 pm »

And here's a link to a scan of the USADA letter:

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/armstrongcharging0613.pdf

Rhys W · « **Reply #174 on:** 13 June, 2012, 11:33:59 pm »

"Multiple riders with first hand knowledge will testify that between 1998 and 2005 Armstrong personally used EPO and on multiple occasions distributed EPO to other riders."

Presumably this is Landis, Hamilton et al, so I'm wondering why this will succeed this time... but if it does, surely the criminal investigation will be re-opened? Interesting times ahead, for sure.