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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #725 on: 14 October, 2012, 08:48:34 pm »
People might start bring out their old USPS kit and wearing it on club runs in an ironic way.

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #726 on: 14 October, 2012, 08:59:40 pm »
Ah, salbutamol, salbutamol.  You'd be amazed at the number of blue puffers you see at a triathlon transition.   :demon:
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #727 on: 14 October, 2012, 09:29:42 pm »
Lots of asthmatics have been advised to swim by their doctors...
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #728 on: 14 October, 2012, 09:35:32 pm »
Somebody was just saying to me last week that the inhaler abuse was rife in the local youngsters racing club down the track, they certainly seem a lot more common than when I was a kid.

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #729 on: 14 October, 2012, 09:47:55 pm »
Steve Redgrave's a celebrity asthmatic of course. British rowing was reinvigorated by the former East German coach Jürgen Gröbler.

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #730 on: 14 October, 2012, 10:01:14 pm »
Somebody was just saying to me last week that the inhaler abuse was rife in the local youngsters racing club down the track, they certainly seem a lot more common than when I was a kid.


Asthma is a lot more common than 20 years ago.  IIRC, it's almost doubled in the last 20 years in the UK, particularly in urban areas.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #731 on: 14 October, 2012, 10:06:55 pm »
The secret to avoiding your kids developing it is apparently to have two cats in the household.  One will not suffice.  Cats are amazing sources of allergens.  Worked for our daughters, and we have a family history of asthma.  FWIW my asthma disappeared at the age of 37, when we got a third cat.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #732 on: 14 October, 2012, 10:12:36 pm »
I had an inkling that it was more common, but the conversation implied that GPs have become a lot more lax about prescribing them. I'd expect the kind of sporty, active kids that go bike racing every week would be on the healthier end of the spectrum, so I wonder how many of the overweight/Playstation types are on them.

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #733 on: 15 October, 2012, 07:57:40 am »
Ah, salbutamol, salbutamol.  You'd be amazed at the number of blue puffers you see at a triathlon transition.   :demon:

Having felt not quite right on the bike for a while, I saw the asthma nurse  recently, did the max blow test, and was offered salbutamol. The benfits (certainly when on the bike) are not minor.

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #734 on: 15 October, 2012, 08:25:10 am »
The secret to avoiding your kids developing it is apparently to have two cats in the household.  One will not suffice.  Cats are amazing sources of allergens.  Worked for our daughters, and we have a family history of asthma.  FWIW my asthma disappeared at the age of 37, when we got a third cat.
That's assuming your asthmatic reactions to the allergens you are exposed to while living with these horrible beasts are not so severe as to endanger your life as you gradually desensitize your system.  Believe me, this is not a solution for everyone.  (I speak from personal experience).

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #735 on: 15 October, 2012, 09:39:49 am »
People might start bring out their old USPS kit and wearing it on club runs in an ironic way.

What about all those Livestrong bands. Can you wear one in an ironic way?

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #736 on: 15 October, 2012, 10:28:42 am »
Yep, but it has to be halfway up your upper arm ;)

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #737 on: 15 October, 2012, 10:34:26 am »
Steve Redgrave's a celebrity asthmatic of course. British rowing was reinvigorated by the former East German coach Jürgen Gröbler.

Are you sure, ESL?  I know he is dyslexic and diabetic, as well as incredible.

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #738 on: 15 October, 2012, 10:41:29 am »
People might start bring out their old USPS kit and wearing it on club runs in an ironic way.

Is it possible to wear trade kit other than ironically?

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #739 on: 15 October, 2012, 10:45:49 am »
People might start bring out their old USPS kit and wearing it on club runs in an ironic way.

Is it possible to wear trade kit other than ironically?

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #740 on: 15 October, 2012, 10:48:42 am »
Steve Redgrave's a celebrity asthmatic of course. British rowing was reinvigorated by the former East German coach Jürgen Gröbler.

Are you sure, ESL?  I know he is dyslexic and diabetic, as well as incredible.

It's a very comon condition in endurance athletes Wiggo is another.
http://www.londonbridgehospital.com/LBH/industry-news-det/Wiggins-inspires-asthma-sufferers/

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #741 on: 15 October, 2012, 10:49:55 am »
People might start bring out their old USPS kit and wearing it on club runs in an ironic way.

Is it possible to wear trade kit other than ironically?

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #742 on: 15 October, 2012, 10:51:46 am »
Tonight (Monday) 7 p.m. on BBC radio 5, a programme about LA and the doping regime.

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« Reply #743 on: 15 October, 2012, 11:17:07 am »
You'd seem to be able to use an asthma inhaler without troubling WADA according to the UCI.
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. IF YOU NEED TO USE BETA-2 AGONISTS FOR ASTHMA

Submitting a TUE for the use of the use of Beta-2 Agonists for Asthma depends on the “drug” which is used to treat your asthma. Please pay attention to the substance which is included in your inhaler!

2a. Beta-2 agonists for asthma (Salmeterol/Salbutamol/Formoterol): you do not need to submit any TUE if you take inhaled Salbutamol and/or Salmeterol (up to a daily dose of 1600 μg) and/or Formoterol (up to a daily dose of 36 μg).

2b. Terbutaline:

If you take Terbutaline for the treatment of asthma, you must submit a TUE for Asthma and a full medical file to confirm the diagnosis of asthma and/or it’s clinical variants. The medical file should include:

A detailed medical history and clinical review 
Lung function test with spirometry 
Bronchodilator response 
Bronchial provocation tests
To assist your doctor in completing the correct tests, and providing the correct medical information, we suggest that he or she consults the WADA Guidelines on Asthma clicking here.

If the TUE for Asthma is completed correctly with valid test results, the UCI TUE Committee may grant an approval for up to 4 years.




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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #744 on: 15 October, 2012, 01:08:54 pm »
Tonight (Monday) 7 p.m. on BBC radio 5, a programme about LA and the doping regime.

There appears to be an interview with Emma O'Reilly in this.

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #745 on: 15 October, 2012, 01:21:10 pm »
Asthma inhalers are now avalable over-the-counter at ASDA, at £7 for 2, a considerable saving on the NHS prescription price. http://your.asda.com/news-and-blogs/asthma-sufferers-can-now-buy-their-inhalers-from-asda
They'll also do you a flu-jab for £7, removing the hassle of the GP interface.
http://your.asda.com/news-and-blogs/it-s-quick-and-easy-to-get-your-flu-jab-at-asda-pharmacy

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #746 on: 15 October, 2012, 01:29:17 pm »
Asthma inhalers are now avaialable over-the-counter at ASDA, at £7 for 2, a considerable saving on the NHS prescription price. http://your.asda.com/news-and-blogs/asthma-sufferers-can-now-buy-their-inhalers-from-asda
They'll also do you a flu-jab for £7, removing the hassle of the GP interface.
http://your.asda.com/news-and-blogs/it-s-quick-and-easy-to-get-your-flu-jab-at-asda-pharmacy

And others are offering too, though not at £7.  Boots, Tesco, Sainsbury, Lloyds etc are all doing flu jabs.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #747 on: 15 October, 2012, 03:56:51 pm »
A 45-minute documentary which has just been broadcast on ABC (the Australian ABC). Nothing new factually, but does include interviews with Mrs Andreu and Tyler H, as well as footage of depositions (including LA's denials) from the 2005 SCA case.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2012/10/11/3608613.htm
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #749 on: 15 October, 2012, 04:38:28 pm »
Nothing new factually, but does include interviews with Mrs Andreu and Tyler H, as well as footage of depositions (including LA's denials) from the 2005 SCA case.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2012/10/11/3608613.htm

I personally hadn't heard of Verbrugan's remark, as conveyed by Dick Pound...

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...otherwise, no, nothing new to me. BUT it was something else again to hear and see the people say the things I'd only previously read. 

For those that are less familiar with it all, or the average person who might only know the name Armstrong as a TdF winning cancer survivor, I think it'd be a devastating program.