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Off Topic => The Pub => Topic started by: Jaded on 24 December, 2018, 09:06:19 am
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50 years ago today, and the three of them are still alive.
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I’m sure everyone gets it is Apollo 8!
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I did. I always wanted to be an astronaut until I discovered to be colour blind. Deeply traumatic, of course. That and the fact we don't really have a space programme.
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Well we did, once upon a time. It starred Andrew Faulds and Alfie Bass, and the narrator was David Jacobs.
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I copied Jaded's original to an alternate history forum I post on, an got this reply:
I had the opportunity to meet Frank Borman, the commander of Apollo 8, a couple weeks ago at the opening of his new museum exhibit in my hometown. I was kind of geeking out when I met him. He signed my copy of Jeffrey Kluger's Apollo 8 book, although he told me he didn't think the book was well-researched, so he recommended Rocket Men by Robert Kurson to me. That evening, I attended a banquet where Borman spoke about his military and astronaut careers, including the Apollo 8 mission. It was a wonderful event. Borman has a fascinating life story, and he's pretty humble and down-to-earth. He's 90 years old, but he doesn't act or look that age. And he's still an active pilot to this day!
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There was a nice Radio prog about this mission, and the bible readings they performed mid-flight, at the weekend https://www.bbc.co.uk/corporate2/mediacentre/proginfo/2018/52/between-the-ears
Mostly interviews with the 'nauts.
"On Christmas Eve in 1968, as the crew of Apollo 8 orbited the Moon, astronauts read extracts from Genesis live on television to tens of millions of people watching around the world. Later, they would also capture – by accident – a photograph of the Earth rising above the lunar landscape which came to be known as Earthrise. Both events would have a profound and influential effect that continues to this day.
In Message from the Moon, listeners will have the chance to follow the Apollo 8 mission from launch to landing - including the readings from Genesis - and hear from astronauts giving their unique perspective on creation, faith and God.
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and I just found this on R5: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0001qn1
"Christmas on the far side of the moon"
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I think it was Borman who said that seeing the Earth from space made him realise that religion is a load of bollocks.
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"On Christmas Eve in 1968, as the crew of Apollo 8 orbited the Moon, astronauts read extracts from Genesis live on television to tens of millions of people watching around the world."
That's a shame, some of Peter Gabriel's later lyrics were quite profound...
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I copied Jaded's original to an alternate history forum I post on, an got this reply:
I had the opportunity to meet Frank Borman, the commander of Apollo 8, a couple weeks ago at the opening of his new museum exhibit in my hometown. I was kind of geeking out when I met him. He signed my copy of Jeffrey Kluger's Apollo 8 book, although he told me he didn't think the book was well-researched, so he recommended Rocket Men by Robert Kurson to me. That evening, I attended a banquet where Borman spoke about his military and astronaut careers, including the Apollo 8 mission. It was a wonderful event. Borman has a fascinating life story, and he's pretty humble and down-to-earth. He's 90 years old, but he doesn't act or look that age. And he's still an active pilot to this day!
Brilliant, thanks.
I was asking the family where they were 50 years ago today. they didn't guess.
I can also remember where I was when it splashed down.
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I think it was Borman who said that seeing the Earth from space made him realise that religion is a load of bollocks.
Can't remember which, but one of them said something about reaching the far side and getting a stupendous spiritual feeling.
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Did a quick google on Frank Borman quotes:
https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Frank_Borman
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Countdown: An Autobiography (1988)
Co-written with Robert J. Serling
There was one more impression we wanted to transmit: our feeling of closeness to the Creator of all things. This was Christmas Eve, December 24, 1968, and I handed Jim and Bill their lines from the Holy Scriptures.
p. 214
This must be what God sees. I was absolutely awestruck, not so much at what we had accomplished but at what made the accomplishment possible. A machine produced by more than three hundred thousand Americans was circling the moon with three human beings aboard for the first time in history.
p. 454
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[my bold]
(I couldn't find any anti-religious comments.)
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I guess from up there God is immune to the destruction of earth’s ecosystem by humans.
He’s probably a bit pissed off by the trashing of all his work. All creatures great and small apart from the ones we’ve made extinct.
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I guess from up there God is immune to the destruction of earth’s ecosystem by humans.
He’s probably a bit pissed off by the trashing of all his work. All creatures great and small apart from the ones we’ve made extinct.
Do you anticipate some smiting? :(
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There was a nice Radio prog about this mission, and the bible readings they performed mid-flight, at the weekend https://www.bbc.co.uk/corporate2/mediacentre/proginfo/2018/52/between-the-ears
Very nice it was too. After listening to that at the time, I subsequently spent a whole day on You Tube [as you do] watching all the Doc Programs about the Apollo missions and particularly the engineering that went into the making of the Saturn 5 rocket. Way too young at the time to really appreciate what was going on, it was fascinating to catch up again with all that. Those F1 engines were just utter monsters! It's an incredible story - dodgy German rocket scientists in on the act, a race fueled by political insecurities, JFK never to live to see the dream materialize, and the use of surfers using insulation to keep the ultra cooled rocket fuel cool in the Florida sun! And that iconic photo of the earth taken from behind the moon.
And then there was Apollo 13. What a tale that was.
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Those F1 engines were just utter monsters!
If you haven't been, go. To the Cape Canaveral Space Museum. It's a bit Disney (or was), but worth it. You walk into one of the halls through a sliding door, and inside there are all sorts of bits of space kit on show. Then, somehow, you look up, to realise that you've just walked under a Saturn V, laid on its side. It's bloody enormous. That was a real jaw-dropper for me.
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When I was about eleven or twelve I was given a book about the moon race. Just about the only thing I remember from it was an illustration of how powerful the Saturn V first stage was. How long a traffic jam would you need to replicate the horsepower of that first stage? (We're talking late-sixties or early-seventies American cars).
From New York to Los Angeles :o
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Those F1 engines were just utter monsters!
If you haven't been, go. To the Cape Canaveral Space Museum. It's a bit Disney (or was), but worth it. You walk into one of the halls through a sliding door, and inside there are all sorts of bits of space kit on show. Then, somehow, you look up, to realise that you've just walked under a Saturn V, laid on its side. It's bloody enormous. That was a real jaw-dropper for me.
The Kennedy Space Centre is a must for space geeks, especially thos of a certain age (like wot I am). Seeing in th flesh, the beasts that put my hero's into space was gob smacking. As Von Broad says, the scale of the Saturn V has to be seen to be believed. To have been there when one was launched..........
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I've been taking the tube to work this week rather than cycling (because injury), so I've been able to catch up on my reading backlog.
I'm enjoying this book - Go Flight, The unsung heroes of mission control (https://astronomynow.com/2016/01/26/go-flight-the-unsung-heroes-of-mission-control-1965-1992/) - I keep nearly missing my stop.
Yesterday was Apollo 8, and it seems a number of people thought it was a bigger achievement that Apollo 11.
When I got of the train this evening the Eagle had just landed, but it details how the means of handling the go/no go decision on the 1201 (or was it 2) had come about almost by accident in the simulator.
Oh, and some of the "hacks" to get Apollo 13 home had been worked out long before in response to what-if's.
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Read this, watch the trailer, look forward to....
Stunning Trailer for Apollo 11 Brings Us Never-Before-Seen Footage of the Moon Mission (https://gizmodo.com/stunning-trailer-for-apollo-11-brings-us-never-before-s-1832132176)
70mm.
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Can’t wait!
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Wow. That's def on my 'will see' list. Thank you.
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Looks awesome.
I'll be there.
Thanks Z.
ETA - Imax *fingers crossed*
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Most assuredly on the list of films to watch!
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ETA - Imax *fingers crossed*
I hope so! Maybe even the Science Museum Imax.
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Thank you. Brilliant start to the morning watching that
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I’m sure everyone gets it is Apollo 8!
I had no idea at all what you were talking about.
Something to do with space then?
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I’m sure everyone gets it is Apollo 8!
I had no idea at all what you were talking about.
Something to do with space then?
The Apollo mission equivalent of the YACF mid-Essex massive on a winter audax: They went all the way to lunar orbit, but instead of finishing the job they just took a couple of photos and went for a pint without validating their brevet cards. In the resulting Awoowoo article they blamed Grumann for not pumping up the tyres on the lunar module in time for the launch.
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I’m sure everyone gets it is Apollo 8!
I had no idea at all what you were talking about.
Something to do with space then?
The Apollo mission equivalent of the YACF mid-Essex massive on a winter audax: They went all the way to lunar orbit, but instead of finishing the job they just took a couple of photos and went for a pint without validating their brevet cards. In the resulting Awoowoo article they blamed Grumann for not pumping up the tyres on the lunar module in time for the launch.
Thank you! ;D
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You will lose several hours (https://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/)
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You will lose several hours (https://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/)
I guess the image count on the Apollo 13 mission drops to less than half of all the others
because they had more pressing things to attend to....
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Did they land on the same day Eddie won his first tour?? (July 20th 1969)
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Did they land on the same day Eddie won his first tour?? (July 20th 1969)
They landed at 20:17 UTC on July 20th, 1969.
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:thumbsup:
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So did anyone mention the moon landings were faked and the earth is flat. ;)
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So did anyone mention the moon landings were faked and the earth is flat. ;)
I seem to remember Buzz Aldrin (or was it Neil Armstrong) decked someone for suggesting as much. :thumbsup:
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Buzz.
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Buzz.
Top Man.
In many ways more than one.
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I'm just back from my local IMAX cinema. It's a good job that nobody posted any spoilers...
I can't remember the last film that I saw where the entire audience sat in silence until the end of the credits.
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I'm just back from my local IMAX cinema. It's a good job that nobody posted any spoilers...
I can't remember the last film that I saw where the entire audience sat in silence until the end of the credits.
Where is this on ?
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So did anyone mention the moon landings were faked and the earth is flat. ;)
I was watching the BBC4 multipart space race documentary earlier and thought "Dang! These actors are good1"
1: May contain traces of Lie
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And as a fitting mark of respect, the 50th anniversary of the lauch of Apollo 11 has been marked by a partial lunar eclipse which looked quite good from where I stood with binoculars looking at it :thumbsup:
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Watching a catch-up of the C4 Moon Landing Live programme.
It’s weird because
It is largely in colour.
Well over half the people you see it it are dead
You know the ending.
There isn't a Worzel Gummage President twatting away in the background*.
*Yeah. There was a lying shit president at the time, but he wasn’t as bad as the straw hairdo cunt.
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And as a fitting mark of respect, the 50th anniversary of the lauch of Apollo 11 has been marked by a partial lunar eclipse which looked quite good from where I stood with binoculars looking at it :thumbsup:
I took a photo or two and will post them tomorrow.
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So did anyone mention the moon landings were faked and the earth is flat. ;)
I seem to remember Buzz Aldrin (or was it Neil Armstrong) decked someone for suggesting as much. :thumbsup:
Buzz.
Top Man.
In many ways more than one.
I would like to point out the person Buzz punched was very aggressive and would not leave Buzz alone and quite abusive to buzz.
It was video'd and quite funny. IMO.
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I'm just back from my local IMAX cinema. It's a good job that nobody posted any spoilers...
I can't remember the last film that I saw where the entire audience sat in silence until the end of the credits.
Where is this on ?
I went to the Odeon in Richmond (SW London, not peoples republic of), I think when I looked it was on in Kingston as well.
Looks like it's on in Wimbledon tomorrow afternoon and Kingston tomorrow afternoon and then 17:50 - neither imax.
[edited] Also on here - Vue Cinema (https://www.myvue.com/cinema/westfield/film/apollo-11/times)
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So did anyone mention the moon landings were faked and the earth is flat. ;)
I seem to remember Buzz Aldrin (or was it Neil Armstrong) decked someone for suggesting as much. :thumbsup:
Buzz.
Top Man.
In many ways more than one.
I would like to point out the person Buzz punched was very aggressive and would not leave Buzz alone and quite abusive to buzz.
It was video'd and quite funny. IMO.
I'm pretty sure that I've seen that footage, Fuzzy.
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For space fans and computer geeks Fran Blance show a logic board from the Apollo Missions a Saturn V Launch Vehicle Digital Computer (LVDC) form her collection.
https://youtu.be/J0ggqY7vnAw
Fran is very cools as well as doing stuff like this she owns a famous guitar pedal company and used to work for Electro Harmonix on their pedal design.
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Wow.
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So did anyone mention the moon landings were faked and the earth is flat. ;)
I seem to remember Buzz Aldrin (or was it Neil Armstrong) decked someone for suggesting as much. :thumbsup:
Buzz.
Top Man.
In many ways more than one.
I would like to point out the person Buzz punched was very aggressive and would not leave Buzz alone and quite abusive to buzz.
It was video'd and quite funny. IMO.
I'm pretty sure that I've seen that footage, Fuzzy.
And here it is set to music (https://youtu.be/y4hieHY0jHM)