Author Topic: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017  (Read 33089 times)

Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #100 on: 10 August, 2018, 10:59:57 pm »
Unfortunately any southern approach to Glasgow is a traffic light slog with Strathaven, Auldhouse, Eaglesham, Clarkston the least worst option of the above if Toryglen ASDA is still the turn. There's a 24 hour Tesco at Silverburn and another 24 hr ASDA in sunny Govan but that's your lot on the southside. There's a Morrison's in Newlands but it's only open till 10 pm.

Start time is 10pm the previous night, so likely afternoon/early evening in Glasgow perfect for catching the football crowds!
Rangers are at home to St Johnstone not the best time to be in Govan; at least going to Toryglen it's the handful Queens Park and Edinburgh City fans you've got to contend with at the turn.
Probably another reason to avoid Larkhall that day too...

Could be worse, it could be on an Old Firm day.

In which case make it the Morrison's in Newlands and then you only have to contend with the massed ranks of Pollok FC fans! This would also have the benefit of being even closer to my house, although last year having a late afternoon kip at home didn't work out as I had a major attack of the dozzies in Cumbria.

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Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #101 on: 12 August, 2018, 09:10:17 pm »
Just spotted that the AUK event page and the website have been updated stating Darnley as the turn control.

Costa, KFC, McD's and a Sainsbury's

So that's the previous RWGPS routes wiped out!
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28327642

Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #102 on: 12 August, 2018, 10:23:40 pm »
Not so good, there’s the huge Siverburn shopping centre just near there, all roads are very busy as most are going that way. I wouldn’t be cycling round that way on a Sat afternoon. There’s no easy way for that one i’m afraid.
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Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #103 on: 12 August, 2018, 10:41:47 pm »
Ooh, that looks interesting. Seems at first glance like there are more options for a much improved approach. I wonder if the route will remain the same up to Abington or if Andy will go with something completely different?

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Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #104 on: 13 August, 2018, 11:32:43 am »
Not so good, there’s the huge Siverburn shopping centre just near there, all roads are very busy as most are going that way. I wouldn’t be cycling round that way on a Sat afternoon. There’s no easy way for that one i’m afraid.

had a look, and changed back to cutting through newton mearns and then through rouken glen park, but can't see a way of avoiding  nithshill road, except by hopping onto the pavement, assuming it is a pavement and not a core path or right of way
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28327642


I am of course working on an assumption that the retail park at Darnley Mains is the target and not Silverburn! THere is however also shown a path between Darnley Mains and the Silverburn on OSM

Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #105 on: 13 August, 2018, 01:02:39 pm »
This is the route I'd take, assuming you are coming from Abington of course, These are quiet back lanes until you get to the Ayr road which has it's own cycle lane, when you turn left onto the the A727 i'd probably see how busy it was but after crossing the RBT it becomes dual carriageway and very, very busy

 https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28332404
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Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #106 on: 13 August, 2018, 01:20:26 pm »
Is the Ayr road usually alright even on a busy day?
I'd discounted it on the basis of traffic and those cycle lanes are just painted gutters so generally worse than useless.

Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #107 on: 13 August, 2018, 01:25:35 pm »
Is the Ayr road usually alright even on a busy day?
I'd discounted it on the basis of traffic and those cycle lanes are just painted gutters so generally worse than useless.

Yes i use it all the time, They've recently made the cycle lane wider too.
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Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #108 on: 13 August, 2018, 01:34:30 pm »
Cool,

tiem to get back to worrying about the borderlands explorer 600 which is this weekend... :-S

Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #109 on: 21 August, 2018, 02:36:28 pm »
I notice that the control on the way up the A6 is Lowther.  Andy - have you got the Parish Hall there, or have you booked us a few lodges in Center Parcs  :thumbsup: ?

Edit - Now seen the updated details on the event website - see calendar page for link.

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Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #110 on: 22 August, 2018, 02:18:54 pm »
I seem to have survived the soaking on the Borderlands 600, added an extra 50km by heading back to tent for showers after each return to Gala... my tent was in Melrose (should have used Selkirk as it's on route for all 3 legs oh well); think that added a fair bit of time as it was about 25 to 30 mins extra riding after returning to Gala and obviously a McDonalds each time back at Gala...

Finished around half 8 I think... Got confused at the end of the second leg as it didn't feel like 2 in the afternoon and didn't really want to ride into a 2nd night which I just avoided (and then set off back to the tent around 10pm in the dark...) and really thought I was pushing it to get back in time until someone confirmed to me that it really was 2 in the afternoon!

Free food at Lowther; sounds good as long as it's not us in the lion enclosure!

Oh and the old A74 is much more attocious surface wise when you're 380Km+ in than only 40km in.
Made the mistake of using one of the separate bits of cyclefarcislity though, was like it hadn't been swept since the bike was painted on the tar.

Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #111 on: 23 August, 2018, 09:13:07 pm »
Does anyone have gpx at all?
Ta

Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #112 on: 23 August, 2018, 09:49:50 pm »
Does anyone have gpx at all?
Ta
This is what i used last year, although the far end control has changed but you are welcome to use these.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28422560Blackpool 2 Glasgow

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28422535Glasgow to Blackpool
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Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 21st Sept 2018
« Reply #113 on: 24 August, 2018, 03:39:52 pm »
Thought it's about time I poked my nose in and answered a few questions.

The first control will now be at the village of Lowther (106 km), about 7 km further on than originally planned (Shap was the originally intention). I've reserved the parish hall to use as a food/rest station. The hall has the usual facilities (main hall; kitchen; toilets etc), although no sleeping is planned. You can also use for sleeping if you wish but the control will close shortly after 05:00 am. Use of facilities at this control is of course included in the entry fee!

The route from Abington into Glasgowshire now follows the B7086 through Strathaven before connecting to the A726/A727, turning at the Darnley services just after passing under the M77 (jcn 3), where there's a 24-hour McDonald's! The return uses the same route but the final control is at the Carnforth Truckhaven restaurant (553 km) which I'm being told is now 24-hours!

Both the AUK webpage and event website have been updated accordingly in the last few days.

If anyone would like to help out at the Lowther control please do get in touch (I've 1 volunteer so far). Control opening hours for the Saturday morning are: 01:32 am - 05:04 am. Any/all expenses will of course be reimbursed.

Hope this answers most/all of the questions.

No EoL. Online entry £15.90 and are still open at: http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/18-111/

Website address here: https://burnleyccevents.com/blackpool-glasgow-blackpool-600-22-september-2017/

Event info' and route-sheet will be sent out the first week of September.

Those who complete the event if the BGB 600 is the only/longest BRM event ridden during 2018, they'll be able to pre-register for next year's PBP as early as 28th January 2019.

Andy Corless
Organiser
Blackpool - Glasgow - Blackpool 600




Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 21st Sept 2018
« Reply #114 on: 24 August, 2018, 11:12:19 pm »
Those who complete the event if the BGB 600 is the only/longest BRM event ridden during 2018, they'll be able to register for next year's PBP as early as 28th January 2019.

That’ll be me then...  :-\
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Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 21st Sept 2018
« Reply #115 on: 26 August, 2018, 06:20:30 pm »
The first control will now be at the village of Lowther (106 km), about 7 km further on than . . Shap . . The route from Abington . . . now follows the B7086 through Strathaven before connecting to the A726/A727, turning at the Darnley services [M77/J3]
Andy Corless
Outbound route something like this?
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28445833?beta=false

Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 21st Sept 2018
« Reply #116 on: 28 August, 2018, 01:24:59 pm »
Those who complete the event if the BGB 600 is the only/longest BRM event ridden during 2018, they'll be able to register for next year's PBP as early as 28th January 2019.

That’ll be me then...  :-\

+1   O:-)

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Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #117 on: 05 September, 2018, 06:17:47 pm »
Just been "sorting out" my e-mails from a weekend away, I note in the original e-mail Andy sent out on sign up that he said route sheet etc would be sent out by Monday this week; have I gone and "sorted it out" by mistake or has he not sent details out yet?

Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #118 on: 05 September, 2018, 07:06:33 pm »
Having entered it yesterday, Andy's email this morning said full details by *next* Monday, 10th

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Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #119 on: 05 September, 2018, 09:11:05 pm »
Cool, was the 3rd on the one he sent me, but he's been making changes and plenty of time yet, just got concerned I had missed something important before going for a bulk delete!

Jay_70_One

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Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #120 on: 09 September, 2018, 12:09:07 pm »
Has anyone taken the plunge and created a GPX for the revised route. I would do but I’m generally a pretty useless route pannner and I would have you all lost in a heartbeat. I also recall minus temperatures and a ground frost on the return over Shap last year, have you done anything to address this Andy? 👀
Don't die wondering...

LMT

Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #121 on: 09 September, 2018, 02:55:26 pm »
Has anyone taken the plunge and created a GPX for the revised route. I would do but I’m generally a pretty useless route pannner and I would have you all lost in a heartbeat. I also recall minus temperatures and a ground frost on the return over Shap last year, have you done anything to address this Andy? 👀

It's pretty much three roads there and three roads back. ;) :thumbsup:

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Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #122 on: 09 September, 2018, 03:12:50 pm »
I've put a route into RWGPS for it, BUT It's not following the routesheet from Lesmahagow to Darnley, it's adding about 5km each way to avoid EK.

https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28557237
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28557304

There's also possibly a few errors in there as my distances are out by 3k before the divergance; so the total route I've knocked out is 18k over distance.

Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #123 on: 09 September, 2018, 03:30:02 pm »
I remember my first encounter with a GPS-directed rider, on Sheila Simpson's North-West 600. They went astray in Penrith, as the one-way system is complex.

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Re: Blackpool-Glasgow-Blackpool 22nd Sept 2017
« Reply #124 on: 09 September, 2018, 04:36:44 pm »
Noticed an  interesting discrepancy in Lancaster while making that:

The Greyhound bridge is in Google Maps and OSM, but not on OSM Cycle! It's only been part of the road network since 1972...

However...
https://www.lancasterguardian.co.uk/news/greyhound-bridge-to-reopen-to-traffic-with-new-bus-lane-1-9336960


The SatNav caveat of follow your nose not the beeps that everyone ignores is as important as ever!