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General Category => Audax => Highest Annual Mileage Record attempt => Topic started by: mattc on May 31, 2015, 12:17:15 am

Title: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mattc on May 31, 2015, 12:17:15 am
Has this attempt been mentioned before?

http://www.ayearinthesaddle.com

(title changed so I can remember how to spell Kajsa )
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: The French Tandem on May 31, 2015, 06:29:55 am
Go Kajsa!

And Go Steve, Go Kurt, Go Miles!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on May 31, 2015, 10:31:00 am
I doubt that she'll do it, given the Guinness requirements, even with the low-ish overall total.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 01, 2015, 10:29:55 am
She has been mentioned before. Doubt was expressed as to her understanding of the difficulties involved; she's only done short-distance events before and not on consecutive days.

Shame we don't have an endless pot of money as I'm sure there are a few women on YACF who (removed from the constraints of having to make a living) could knock out over 30k in a year.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Hillbilly on June 01, 2015, 11:26:10 am
She seems determined, but her lack of time exercising (let alone doing long distances) would seem (at face value) to put her at a disadvantage.  Her "training" seems to be focussed on intense, short events (albeit iron man triathlons are not easy) rather than the type of endurance events that will provide a solid foundation.  My experience is that the type of fitness needed for endurance events is very different to shorter "race" type events.

I wonder if she has heard of Audax UK - I suspect the discipline and very specific physical requirements of a series of audax rides would help her in the long run by building out from her more high intensity exercise.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Lady Cavendish on June 01, 2015, 11:36:33 am
Has she given up work to do it?

If she has, I'm very envious. I would bloody love to have a year off work while people paid for me to ride my bike. I wouldn't want to take on the mileage TG is taking on, that's just outrageous as you can't do anything else, there's no time, I couldn't mentally get close to it, (nor would I want to!!) but 30,000 miles with no job to me seems pretty easy, a very nice life actually!! I did over 24,000 in 2012 with a job that has long hours.

Good luck to her, I hope she has a great year.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on June 01, 2015, 01:13:37 pm
She's heard of audax, but never done one.

I'm sure she knows about fitness. I'm pretty sure she isn't really aware of the psychological challenge of riding for long hours, day after day.

Mind you, the marker is so low she could ride 100miles a day six days a week and break the current record.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Hillbilly on June 01, 2015, 07:38:18 pm
I'm sure she'd be more than welcome if she decided to enter an audax event or two.  100 miles a day is pretty much a 200km audax cut short, so would appear a good match to what she is hoping to achieve.

One of the advantages of AUK is also that it uses roads less travelled, which might be useful when she starts to plan her routes (unless she has in mind to do a "Miles" and focus on the same route, with the odd variation thrown in for variety

No doubt she'll have thought a lot of this through.  Dreams only get you so far.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mattc on June 01, 2015, 07:53:44 pm
reading between the lines on her website:
- yes, she plans to give up work.
- she's looking to follow the Teethgrinder model; some sponsorship plus lots of "hosts" to provide dinner-bed-n-breakfast.

100 miles a day should indeed be a piece of pi$$ with her current background (assuming no job!).

I'd also point out that an iron-man is well into "Audax" definitions of long-distance. It's about 180km riding PLUS a marathon, PLUS a long swim. If you can do that, 300km on a bike in a day is very doable!

p.s. if LC is up for this, I pledge to buy her at least 1 lunch ...
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: woollypigs on June 01, 2015, 10:02:33 pm
Way to go, jolly good news.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Justin(e) on June 18, 2015, 09:31:56 am
Radio interview  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz66vl2B29c&feature=youtu.be)with Kajsa

She explains all.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on August 30, 2015, 10:16:22 am
Any news how she is doing?
 ;Dto
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Shreds on September 27, 2015, 09:27:32 am
Looks like she has sponsorship from Specsavers now.

http://www.ayearinthesaddle.com
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: danridesbikes on December 23, 2015, 10:45:35 pm
bump, she was on local news last night, i work in Lincoln, so whatever their version of Look North is (East Midlands Today maybe?)

apparently her mum has retired and will be accompanying with the aid of a motor home and she will go to Europe during the attempt

learning from Kurt?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on December 23, 2015, 10:46:56 pm
She'll need to ride faster than she is doing now.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: danridesbikes on December 24, 2015, 09:48:09 am
It must have been about someone else? Said it started January 1st 2016

I've looked on iPlayer but the episode isn't available
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on December 24, 2015, 10:51:25 am
The average speeds and distances that she's put up this year aren't particularly impressive and she has been complaining about the weather restricting her riding during the mildest December seen for decades.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: wajcgac on December 24, 2015, 11:23:43 am
There  is a link to the BBC clip on Kajsa's website

It's a recording of the actual TV, so quality not great. It is definitely Kajsa starting Jan 1st 2016

http://www.ayearinthesaddle.com/#!social-media/c1kkv (http://www.ayearinthesaddle.com/#!social-media/c1kkv)

https://www.facebook.com/10153856303728969/videos/10153901898163969 (https://www.facebook.com/10153856303728969/videos/10153901898163969)


Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Jack_P (Burlycross) on December 24, 2015, 08:33:26 pm
Well I know how to pronounce her name now  :o
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: lahoski on December 26, 2015, 08:46:47 am
Well, I for one wish her the best of luck. Despite Mister Positive up there's comments, I think she is looking pretty well prepared and has a stonkingly positive attitude. Can't wait to start following Kajsa's progress.

Anyone else think she deserves more than just the one thread with ~20 posts...?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Hillbilly on December 26, 2015, 08:59:19 am
I hope she achieves her dream. Will be interesting seeing her year unfold.

I think AUK could have made a bigger fuss about a woman attempting a long distance record. I guess it is easier to lavish attention on a middle aged man who encapsulates the stereotypes about Randonneurs.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: fboab on December 26, 2015, 09:13:37 am
I think that's more about Steve being 'one of us'. We all know him, have ridden with him, consider him a mate.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: SoreTween on December 26, 2015, 09:19:34 am
I think this subforum needs renaming.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mattc on December 26, 2015, 02:07:02 pm
I think that's more about Steve being 'one of us'. We all know him, have ridden with him, consider him a mate.
Also 100mpd is ridiculously soft compared to what Steve is attempting. It just isnt anywhere near as exciting.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: zigzag on December 26, 2015, 02:24:34 pm
I think that's more about Steve being 'one of us'. We all know him, have ridden with him, consider him a mate.
Also 100mpd is ridiculously soft compared to what Steve is attempting. It just isnt anywhere near as exciting.

so what womens target mileage would make it exciting?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mattc on December 26, 2015, 02:34:40 pm
hard to say, but a figure that is achievable by many female riders in 6hours is in a different ballpark to Kurt's 12h rides.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: marcusjb on December 26, 2015, 02:50:09 pm
The record is what it is. If it is broken, or even if not, it may inspire others to go for it. several of our female members here have annual mileage not far off the record, whilst holding down a full time job etc. So it is a very achievable record, but that does not make it easy.

Although I accept that it is a fairly low target when compared to the male record, it is not just about riding for 6 hours (or whatever) a day. It is about doing it 365 times (ideally).

Good luck!

A mega high mileage female AUK would stand a good chance of hitting the record in 6 months off work, if desired. 165 miles a day for 6 months gets the job done! Sounds easy?!?!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mattc on December 26, 2015, 03:00:13 pm
I never said it was easy.

I was addressing the issue that this attempt is getting a lot less attention than those by the chaps; i think it's almost inevitable.

to address the relative magnitudes: K can probably ride this on a 6-day week basis without reducing her chances. Still not *easy* but a completely different kind of challenge to 12-15h days.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: marcusjb on December 26, 2015, 03:16:14 pm
You wait until it kicks off, I am predicting at least 2 pages a day discussing her direction on the tracker. She will have live tracking won't she? Gosh, that would be tough doing it without.

I accept that you haven't said it will be easy, and I do sort of agree that it is nowhere near as daunting a target as the TG line. But a record is a record and breaking it by a mile is enough. It would be great tp see it taken to a really high level in the future as well, but in the meantime let's see a new record set!

Go go go!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on December 26, 2015, 03:20:35 pm
I'm interested to see how how she copes with the first 2 months. It should be pretty obvious by then whether she has what it takes to beat the current women's record or not. The riding that she has done this year doesn't fill me with confidence about the result.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on December 27, 2015, 07:58:21 pm
Zigzag asked what distance would catch people's attention.

Just for comparison, HK has about 19,000 miles this year, fitted around a full time job. Pat Kenny (male AUK) twice did 30,000 miles with a full-time job and around 22,000 most years.

In my eyes, 40,000 annual miles would be admirable for a lady riding to set a world record. That total would allow riding a variety of events in mixed terrain, rather than having to stick to a maximum mileage hamster wheel. There wouldn't be much time or energy to do anything else though and a single bike wouldn't be enough. Equipment just wears out too quickly, particularly in bad weather.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: clarion on December 28, 2015, 03:42:43 am
My sister has started talking about going for this ::-)
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: HK on December 29, 2015, 01:00:27 pm


I accept that you haven't said it will be easy, and I do sort of agree that it is nowhere near as daunting a target as the TG line. But a record is a record and breaking it by a mile is enough. It would be great tp see it taken to a really high level in the future as well, but in the meantime let's see a new record set!

Go go go!

For some random reason she's going via Guinness rather than UMCA.  Why I don't know but it makes the record far harder as you can have only one bike, have to start where you finish and can't draft.

I also believe that to claim the record you have to beat it by an agreed percentage not just one mile.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Jack_P (Burlycross) on December 29, 2015, 01:14:54 pm

For some random reason she's going via Guinness rather than UMCA.  Why I don't know but it makes the record far harder as you can have only one bike, have to start where you finish and can't draft.

I also believe that to claim the record you have to beat it by an agreed percentage not just one mile.

It does seem bizarre, Guinness really do seem to want to make things as complicated as possible for some records, and then take ages checking your proof for a claim apparently.

Then they could also just change the rules in future, like they did with Mike Halls round the world record ride, and wipe out your efforts from existence in Joe publics eyes at least.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: HK on December 29, 2015, 01:25:41 pm
Agree Burlycross.

Personally if you are part of the ultra cycling fraternity either as a rider or an observer you'd know that the UMCA is where the Year Record is at and not to touch Guinness with a barge pole.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mattc on December 29, 2015, 06:51:00 pm
Agree Burlycross.

Personally if you are part of the ultra cycling fraternity either as a rider or an observer you'd know that the UMCA is where the Year Record is at and not to touch Guinness with a barge pole.
That's quite an important "if" !
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Jaded on December 29, 2015, 07:02:12 pm
"part of the ultra cycling fraternity"

It is nice that the record attempts aren't exclusive to a tiny number of people.  ;D
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: lahoski on December 29, 2015, 09:25:39 pm
ultra cycling fraternity
I think 'fraternity' sums it up a bit, no?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Hillbilly on December 30, 2015, 03:06:43 am
And Roy Castle doesn't turn up anymore playing a trumpet and warbling "if you want to be a record breaker, yeah".
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mattc on December 30, 2015, 08:56:51 am
ultra cycling fraternity
I think 'fraternity' sums it up a bit, no?
It's probably only fair to lookup HK's gender and palmares before making that judgement.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: lahoski on December 31, 2015, 06:32:56 am
ultra cycling fraternity
I think 'fraternity' sums it up a bit, no?
It's probably only fair to lookup HK's gender and palmares before making that judgement.
Sorry. I didn't include the 'present company accepted' caveat like a good boy... but it's just a comment on the choice of words and how they are descriptive of that particularly community. The vast majority of the participants and the spectators of this are men, and I think that affects both the accessibility of the sport for women AND the way any participation by women is perceived.

Until fairly shortly before Steve started his attempt and as a casual observer over the last few years, I had no idea the UMCA was a 'thing'... but I am very aware that I could feasibly train to ride 100+ miles per day. In fact, I could plan all the logistics for the record attempt with very little research except ratification. You don't have to be part of an exclusive group in order to do this kind of thing.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on January 01, 2016, 09:34:57 am
Let us hope Kajsa started as planned at 08.00 from Nottingham today and that all goes well for the year
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: MarkA on January 01, 2016, 10:22:31 am
Would seem so.


https://www.followmychallenge.com/live/ayearinthesaddle/
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: MikeH on January 01, 2016, 11:40:38 am
Best of luck to young Kajsa.   :thumbsup:

This record may be a low hanging fruit, but I have to admire her spirit.  Maybe this will re-enlighten an interest in the women's record in much the same way the Steve and Kurt have for the men's.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Shreds on January 01, 2016, 12:18:11 pm
Let us hope Kajsa started as planned at 08.00 from Nottingham today and that all goes well for the year
 :thumbsup:

+1 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Freya on January 01, 2016, 03:07:35 pm
The follow my challenge web page is quite good, albeit all the measurements are metric.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Clemo on January 01, 2016, 03:25:22 pm
Well good luck  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on January 01, 2016, 11:45:33 pm


Just for comparison, HK has about 19,000 miles this year, fitted around a full time job. Pat Kenny (male AUK) twice did 30,000 miles with a full-time job and around 22,000 most years.


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With all them there miles might you be eligible for membership of the elite 300,000 mile club? ? You're be most welcome
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: red marley on January 02, 2016, 12:25:41 am
Good start from Kajsa with 109 miles on her circuit SW of Nottingham (not particularly flat). Her 'Dovey line' is 81.1 mpd.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on January 02, 2016, 12:46:46 am
Thanks Jo
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: clarion on January 02, 2016, 08:56:56 am
I have been tipped a wink by someone in the know that we should keep watching for some more big miles in 2016.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Hillbilly on January 02, 2016, 09:28:03 am
Sensible distance for this time of year.

If she keeps motivated and healthy, she will be able to slot in double centuries in the warmer months of the year.  I'm looking forward to seeing how she fares, and hope it encourages other riders to look at riding far as being just as rewarding as riding fast.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Citizenfish on January 02, 2016, 10:17:54 am
Anne Hunt did shedloads on encouraging women in 2015, she needs a huge clap for this:-

http://www.tributetobillie.co.uk/
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on January 02, 2016, 11:25:46 am
Thanks for posting that,  a good read
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Jack_P (Burlycross) on January 02, 2016, 05:13:44 pm
As I saw Steve off last year, I thought it would be fun to ride out and see Kajsa off on her year yesterday.

A nice group ride which steadily whittled down as people peeled off, with plenty of chat. Kajsa always leading, no drafting allowed. A very relaxed pace so most could join her on the ride, stops for photographs. A mid ride village hall food and coffee stop, where a considerable amount of supporters were waiting to cheer her in.
She has certainly encouraged people already to be actively involved, 2 riders alone yesterday doing there first 100 and has some good mechanical support from Leisure lakes.

Had a nice long chat with her, she is far from interested in doing long days in the saddle wanting this to be fun rather than a chore. Is looking forward to travelling to new places as part of the journey.
For a start the idea is pre published routes and encouraging people to come along.

It was interesting to hear the reasons behind the choice of Guinness as the body for authentication rather than the UMCA.  In a nutshell its down to the global recognition that Guinness brings to the process, along with the fact that they were nicer to deal with than the UMCA apparently, oh and free!

Citizenfish will approve, she is using mileage cards as part of the authentication, I gladly signed the first one  :D will have to sort my photos out.

Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on January 02, 2016, 07:34:02 pm
Excellent report and well done for seeing her start this fantastic adventure
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: TimC on January 02, 2016, 09:53:54 pm
Kajsa coms across as a really nice person, and I love the way she got people to make an exercise pledge for 2016 in support of her ride. I will enjoy watching her progress.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Justin(e) on January 03, 2016, 07:03:06 am
In a nutshell its down to the global recognition that Guinness brings to the process, along with the fact that they were nicer to deal with than the UMCA apparently, oh and free!

Thanks for the post. 

Most surprised to see that Guinness is free.  I thought they were far from that.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Pale Rider on January 03, 2016, 08:53:13 am
Kajsa coms across as a really nice person, and I love the way she got people to make an exercise pledge for 2016 in support of her ride. I will enjoy watching her progress.

Just to prove we are all different, I find the exercise pledge a bit off putting - too school teacher-like for me.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: red marley on January 03, 2016, 09:13:45 am
The exercise pledge seems entirely appropriate to me. This nicely echoes the spirit of Billy Dovey's mission in 1938.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on January 03, 2016, 09:19:27 am
The exercise pledge seems entirely appropriate to me. This nicely echoes the spirit of Billy Dovey's mission in 1938.



PLUS ONE
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Shreds on January 03, 2016, 09:47:43 am
Personally, I think Kajsa's pledge idea is first class. Far too many bike rides have been 'hijacked' for charity. I have a series of charities I donate to on a regular basis, but that is separate from cycling and I actively avoid the mass participation charity rides. Those who know me are well aware that it is no challenge as I can normally achieve the distance, barring mishap, so what are they "sponsoring" for? Avoiding the guilt trip?

It's a real b@11ache collecting monies after the event and so it is really refreshing and hopefully better for supporters to get out on their bikes themselves rather than being armchair participants.

Good on you Kajsa, you have my total support for everything you are doing. Keep the video diary coming too.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: brakeless on January 03, 2016, 10:15:00 am
Having just read this thread I've found a lot of the comments really odd. This record attempt should be looked at completely outside of our strange world of Audax. To most of the population riding a bike 10 miles is a very big deal, riding a single 100 mile ride is a target for loads of regular cyclists who are out riding most summer weekends. To most none cyclists this record will be seen for what it is, an amazing achievement. This ride could encourage loads of girls and women to start cycling which would be brilliant.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: TimC on January 03, 2016, 10:45:25 am
Kajsa coms across as a really nice person, and I love the way she got people to make an exercise pledge for 2016 in support of her ride. I will enjoy watching her progress.

Just to prove we are all different, I find the exercise pledge a bit off putting - too school teacher-like for me.

Each to his or her own, of course. I thought it was a bit of fun and a nice way to get people to feel a little more involved than just being spectators. Many people have said how they were inspired to ride more by Steve and Kurt; this kind of formalises that inspiration a little by asking for just a small commitment - and one which will only be judged by the participant themselves.

I'm not sure why a few people seem unimpressed by the target of 100mpd. Besides being significantly more than the current record, it's a bloody long way by anyone's standard. Yes there are others (some here) who could take on the task relatively easily, but the fact remains that no woman has done so yet and so the record is up for grabs - and will be up for re-taking in the future...
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 03, 2016, 11:10:49 am
Agreed. 100 mpd EVERY day is a challenge, notwithstanding the Godwin efforts.  And thus far she seems to be doing it confortably, so as hinted by Clarion, perhaps we'll see greater distances come warmer weather. And I like the inclusiveness, and sociability of encouraging others to ride with her, and the posting of photos linked to the tracker page.

My only concern, rule-wise, is that even if she isn't drafting, it's known that the rider at the head if a group does benefit, as was demonstrated by Ned Boulting and Chris Boardman in one of their TdF pieces. Still the minimum daily mileage is being comfortably (FCVO comfortable!) exceeded.

Another horrid day, chapeau Kasja (and Steve).
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Jaded on January 03, 2016, 11:14:58 am
Having just read this thread I've found a lot of the comments really odd. This record attempt should be looked at completely outside of our strange world of Audax.

Hooray for a post made from sense.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: MikeH on January 03, 2016, 11:51:01 am
Out of interest does anyone have the detail of Guinness' verification process/rules on what is clearly a new venture for them?  Have they used the round-the-world as a basis, or looked over their shoulder at what UMCA is doing?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 03, 2016, 12:28:16 pm
Having just read this thread I've found a lot of the comments really odd. This record attempt should be looked at completely outside of our strange world of Audax.

Hooray for a post made from sense.

Seconded.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mcshroom on January 03, 2016, 12:34:32 pm
Having just read this thread I've found a lot of the comments really odd. This record attempt should be looked at completely outside of our strange world of Audax.

Hooray for a post made from sense.

Seconded.

Thirded.

Allez Kajsa, good luck with your attempt :)
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Jack_P (Burlycross) on January 03, 2016, 03:58:00 pm
The pledges are not just cycling, they have come in from all activities she told me.
And not just for activities, several pledges have been to volunteer involving sports organisation.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mattc on January 03, 2016, 05:05:09 pm
Personally, I think Kajsa's pledge idea is first class. Far too many bike rides have been 'hijacked' for charity. I have a series of charities I donate to on a regular basis, but that is separate from cycling and I actively avoid the mass participation charity rides. Those who know me are well aware that it is no challenge as I can normally achieve the distance, barring mishap, so what are they "sponsoring" for? Avoiding the guilt trip?

It's a real b@11ache collecting monies after the event and so it is really refreshing and hopefully better for supporters to get out on their bikes themselves rather than being armchair participants.

Good on you Kajsa, you have my total support for everything you are doing. Keep the video diary coming too.
2nded!

I still reserve the right to say that this is NOT an athletic challenge in any true meaning; not when steve/kurt/tommy are all doing 170mpd+ for the year. I dont want to make a big deal of this though, cos I still think this attempt is A Good Thing. mkay??
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Kim on January 03, 2016, 05:13:58 pm
If it's not an athletic challenge it's a dedication challenge, otherwise someone would have bettered it by now.  Best of luck to her.

I don't think I could manage 100mpd for more than maybe a week, so I'm in awe of anyone who can.  Maybe testing that theory might be a reasonable pledge, or just a way to end up really broken?  Hmm...


Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Greenbank on January 03, 2016, 05:24:41 pm
It's a real b@11ache collecting monies after the event

Which is why many people use JustGiving, VirginMoneyGiving and the like. No need to have to handle any money personally.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rabbit on January 03, 2016, 05:31:16 pm
Best of luck to her.

Another AMAZING lady rider, great to see :)  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Notsototalnewbie on January 03, 2016, 07:16:13 pm

If it's not an athletic challenge it's a dedication challenge, otherwise someone would have bettered it by now.  Best of luck to her.

I don't think I could manage 100mpd for more than maybe a week, so I'm in awe of anyone who can.

What she said. I remember how snide some forum members were when the Pru RideLondon 100 was announced, for example, but taking it on and not getting swept up by the broom wagon was a massive challenge for me (which several kind forum members helped me with by accompanying me on training rides each week) and I'm proud I managed it even though it pales beside the achievements of others on the forum. It's all relative. I can't begin to think about doing it every day. Good luck to her indeed.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: fboab on January 03, 2016, 07:55:31 pm
All that. I could ride 100 miles any day of the week. But every day? For a year?

Good luck to her- we've seen how much luck has been a factor for Steve, so I hope she gets the good kind.
I hope I'll get a chance to ride behind her at some point this year.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Kim on January 03, 2016, 08:04:07 pm
I hope I'll get a chance to ride behind her at some point this year.

That too.  She's using roads that are within bike ride range of here, so it'd be rude not to turn up and make encouraging noises.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 03, 2016, 08:13:46 pm
I notice she's starting a 100-miler in Billericay next Sunday. I am quite tempted to put my name down. It's a 7.30 start and I probably wouldn't finish (she's looking to ride it in 11 hours or so) but it looks like a lot of fun.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: TimC on January 03, 2016, 08:34:30 pm
Damn, that's a shame. I'll be returning from NYC late morning on 10th.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 03, 2016, 08:39:42 pm
Of course, I have just been reminded that I am due in Maidstone next Sunday for babysitting purposes. However, there are trains and I can get to Billericay for a 7.30 start. It's perfectly OK for people to dip in and out of these rides, so I will probably do about 25 miles and then head back by my own route.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: clarion on January 03, 2016, 11:33:08 pm
Tough day today.  Shorter miles.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Kim on January 03, 2016, 11:37:10 pm
Tough day today.  Shorter miles.

Shite weather, until about an hour before it got dark.  I reckon those going for the women's record have a substantial advantage over the men in terms of being able to afford to spend time off the bike avoiding the worst of the weather conditions, and make it up later.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 04, 2016, 07:52:29 am
Anne Hunt did shedloads on encouraging women in 2015, she needs a huge clap for this:-

http://www.tributetobillie.co.uk/

I note from Strava that Kajsa is riding "Billie"  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on January 04, 2016, 08:39:49 am
I thought Guiness charged like a bull.

After the messing around with the round-the-world record, I personally wouldn't trust them.

Thanks for the post, Burlycross, that was really interesting.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 04, 2016, 09:00:21 am
I have put my name down for next Sunday's ride. It's a 7.00 start, so before sunrise. They are quite happy with part-time company so I will bail at Takeley (near Stansted Airport) and work my way back along the Flitch Way to Witham station and then home.

http://www.bikehike.co.uk/mapview.php?lnk=http://peter.chesspod.com/routes/eastanglia/billerwitham.gpx

The official route is available on FB/Strava.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Jack_P (Burlycross) on January 04, 2016, 09:27:20 am
I thought Guiness charged like a bull.

After the messing around with the round-the-world record, I personally wouldn't trust them.

Thanks for the post, Burlycross, that was really interesting.

Exactly my thoughts and I tried to express those to her. I suggested she check with them after say a week that everything she was doing was OK just in case, before anything gets out of control.  To me Mike Hall is the round the world record holder.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: red marley on January 04, 2016, 10:33:26 am
I notice one of the (several) extra challenges Kajsa faces doing the Guinness approved record is that she has to start each new day where she finished the previous one. Yesterday she cut her ride short at Kegworth because of the grim weather. So today she's had to start from there before riding back to join her planned route for today.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Greenbank on January 04, 2016, 11:10:37 am
I'd guess that's to stop fun and games such as being driven to the top of Venotux (or some other big hill) for the start of each day for some free miles of easy descending.

The HAMR rules don't prevent this either, nor do they prevent transits mid ride (as long as the tracker is turned off during the transit). Imagine being dropped off at the top of Yad Moss and freewheeling most of the way down to Middleton-In-Teesdale (yes, there are some up bits along the way), then picked up by vehicle and taken back to the top of Yad Moss. A back of an envelope calculation gives 250 miles available in less than 14 hours, and any eating can be done in the van on the way back up (and not much calories or rest would be required given the relative lack of effort required). It's not that much faster than proper riding, but it certainly would be easier on the body. Horrendously tedious though, and far from the spirit of the original record. Good to see no-one, so far, has attempted anything like this under the HAMR rules. (I think they'd quickly add some kind of rule to prevent this if someone tried it.)

The Guiness rules seem more the Audax spirit if anything (I know several Audaxers who had mechanicals and received lifts from strangers [lifts to bike shops or houses for repairs] and had to be dropped or ride back to where they had originally stopped before continuing).
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 04, 2016, 12:33:13 pm
Well after a somewhat downbeat end to yesterday, she's up and out again, and already well into todays mileage.

I like the tracker being linked to streetview, and the fact that she upload photos en=route.

Of course it's not as hardcore as Steve's attempt, and maybe Matt is right in saying it's not an athletic challenge (one can only imagine the distances someone like Chrissy Wellington could get to if she wanted) - but it certainly is a challenge beyond the vast majority of us, mentally and physically.

Go Kajsa  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: macnark on January 04, 2016, 01:04:57 pm
Funny watching Kajsa's northerly and Steve's southerly  tracker this morning - they were on a course to meet,  then both did an about turn at about the same time and headed off in opposite directions :-)
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on January 04, 2016, 01:09:24 pm
I have never been a mile monster, but even my efforts were nowhere near this. 5 days a week of 50 miles a day and I had issues such as muscle wastage (fixed by considerably upping my protein intake).

100miles, every single day, for a year? Sure it's no athletic challenge in the cardio-vascular sense, but it is a challenge on managing the wear and tear to her body. Really, really not easy. When a tough bird like boab say's she'd find it hard, then you have to listen.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 04, 2016, 03:25:08 pm
I'm impressed. She was stopped for quite a while in Newark, and I thought she'd maybe called it a day early after yesterdays trials.  I was wrong - she's started off again. Early days, but showing grit.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Shreds on January 04, 2016, 03:28:37 pm
Looking like Kajsa and Steve are heading towards each other once again..... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: MrDrem on January 04, 2016, 03:29:00 pm
I've started to arrange a new sheet (matching the one I've done for the Men's record - https://goo.gl/RBHtiS) for the Womens record.

I've found Kajsa's Strava page, and her details are in, but I'm having some difficulty finding the daily distances for Billie. http://www.tributetobillie.co.uk/ seems to give them, but I'm not sure if they are the correct daily distances, or what they managed as part of the tribute ride. Can anyone confirm that they are, or point me at a good set of Billie's daily distances?

Thanks!

I'll share the sheet once I've got it all updated.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Shreds on January 04, 2016, 03:44:28 pm
Try a pm to Citizenfish, pretty sure he will have details or references for Billie's rides, as he went to meet her as part of his research for 'The Year' book.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: MrDrem on January 04, 2016, 03:49:03 pm
Cheers, Just as a note, the data on http://www.tributetobillie.co.uk/ is missing at least 14 days of riding, but looks like it is the right data outside of that.

It also looks like the details of Billie's routes have been kept much better than those of Tommy. It would be really interesting if we also have riding times for her, although I suspect that might be hard to work out.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Shreds on January 04, 2016, 09:09:38 pm
Kajsa seems to have been paused for over three hours in Elton near Newark, so I presume that's it for today?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: red marley on January 04, 2016, 09:47:58 pm
She's uploaded her ride for the day – 104 miles – with the comment "Day 4 - a loooooong day, but it hardly rained at all. Legs were super tired and hurt at even the thought of a hill, luckily there weren't many of them!"

At the risk of upsetting LWaB, nice one Kajsa!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: MrDrem on January 04, 2016, 11:38:30 pm
I've just finished tidying the spreadsheet for the Women's Record Attempt, which can be found at https://goo.gl/lYClYG

Hopefully it'll be as interesting as the Men's attempts have been...

Thanks to Citizenfish and jo for pushing me the distance data.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Legs on January 05, 2016, 09:12:30 am
She's uploaded her ride for the day – 104 miles ...
At the risk of upsetting LWaB, nice one Kajsa!
I don't think there's anything wrong at all with encouraging this effort - she was up on Dovey's mileage already, and the 104 miles pushed her average up, even higher than the Dovey Line.  Well done indeed, Kajsa!

Compare and contrast with what 181 miles did for Steve's situation...
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on January 05, 2016, 09:13:28 am


At the risk of upsetting LWaB, nice one Kajsa!
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 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: red marley on January 05, 2016, 09:19:40 am
I regret posting that 'at the risk of...' comment and polluting this thread. I know all of us at YACF wish all of the competitors all the best.

I do find Kajsa's effort surprisingly uplifting. Along with the optimism of a new start and she embodies the inclusive spirit of Billie without the negative aspects that competition can sometimes bring.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 05, 2016, 10:17:08 am
Agreed - I much prefer following it now, to that of Steves, in part because of my discomfort that people are still paying for Steve to do what he is doing without any clear idea of what it is.

Despite the views of some that 100 miles a day "isn't much", it certainly is a supreme effort for Kajsa, and one she freely admits to. And it's accessible and dare I say "human" in a way that Steve's isn't.  That may well just reflect their individual characters and my reactions to them of course. :)

Go Kajsa   :thumbsup: (not that she look here!  :))
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Shreds on January 05, 2016, 12:35:03 pm
Agreed - I much prefer following it now, to that of Steves, in part because of my discomfort that people are still paying for Steve to do what he is doing without any clear idea of what it is.

Despite the views of some that 100 miles a day "isn't much", it certainly is a supreme effort for Kajsa, and one she freely admits to. And it's accessible and dare I say "human" in a way that Steve's isn't.  That may well just reflect their individual characters and my reactions to them of course. :)

Go Kajsa   :thumbsup: (not that she look here!  :))


Clearly though, those who are still funding Steve are doing so of their own free will. The stats are all here to be judged and we are all adult enough to make our own judgements about the correct way to proceed.

So whilst some see Steve's continued rides as part of the record attempt, others see it as a long Audaxing 'permanent' of xx000 miles.

Whichever, I do wish Steve all the luck in the world, whatever the ultimate outcome.

The eventual transition back to 'normal' everyday life will probably be the biggest challenge, once he finishes the attempt.

Some thought needs to be dedicated to that right now, by those around him, as it will not be an overnight change by any means.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Chris S on January 05, 2016, 12:54:15 pm
Meanwhile, back to the women's record; Kajsa is doing loops in Notts  :thumbsup:.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Hillbilly on January 05, 2016, 01:31:43 pm
Tired legs after such a short space of time? 

That kind of statement doesn't read like someone adequately prepared for a year long challenge.  100 miles a day isn't that far, given the context.  I expect she will cycle herself into form, but the statement does make me wonder if her body will rebel. 

Most randonneurs will be familiar with the fatigue that sets in if you aren't conditioned to long rides, particularly if you are riding further than usual or you are stacking up rides one after the other.  My rule of thumb is that if you aren't conditioned, you ideally need #kms / 100 days rest between rides.  I hope she doesn't get the arse, hand, neck, feet and knee problems that can come with riding too much without building up adequately.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 05, 2016, 01:38:00 pm
Tired legs after such a short space of time? 

That kind of statement doesn't read like someone adequately prepared for a year long challenge.  100 miles a day isn't that far, given the context. I expect she will cycle herself into form, but the statement does make me wonder if her body will rebel. 

Most randonneurs will be familiar with the fatigue that sets in if you aren't conditioned to long rides; I hope she doesn't get the arse, hand, neck, feet and knee problems that can come with riding too much without building up adequately.

There we go again - the it "isn't that far" mantra. For over 99% of the population (and probably more) it really is
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Hillbilly on January 05, 2016, 01:39:56 pm
I included the phrase "given the context" for a reason.

It isn't that far if you are going to be claiming you have ridden the furthest of all time.  What the other 99% (or more) can achieve is irrelevant. 

It's akin to saying running a 12 second 100m sprint is world beating because most people couldn't do it, when such a time is mediocre amongst professional athletes.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Kim on January 05, 2016, 01:41:15 pm
Tired legs after such a short space of time?

Is that necessarily a problem?  I'm nowhere near Kajsa's league, but I get tired legs after a couple of hours of riding.  But I can keep going all day (and again on subsequent days) with them, they just feel tired.  Always thought it was the normal body's way of telling you you're doing something slightly stupid.

 
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Most randonneurs will be familiar with the fatigue that sets in if you aren't conditioned to long rides; I hope she doesn't get the arse, hand, neck, feet and knee problems that can come with riding too much without building up adequately.

These things are always going to be the enemy on something like this, no matter how conditioned you might be.  (Unless you're Teethgrinder, but he appears to be a cyborg).  She's obviously given this stuff consideration in her preparation, but only time will tell.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Whitedown Man on January 05, 2016, 01:43:41 pm
Tired legs after such a short space of time? 

That kind of statement doesn't read like someone adequately prepared for a year long challenge.  100 miles a day isn't that far, given the context. I expect she will cycle herself into form, but the statement does make me wonder if her body will rebel. 

Most randonneurs will be familiar with the fatigue that sets in if you aren't conditioned to long rides; I hope she doesn't get the arse, hand, neck, feet and knee problems that can come with riding too much without building up adequately.

There we go again - the it "isn't that far" mantra. For over 99% of the population (and probably more) it really is

And even for those for whom 100 miles "isn't that far", doing 100 miles once - or a dozen times - is a very different prospect from doing it 300+ times.

Not entirely off topic, I recently listened to a long-format interview with Eddie Izzard about his 43 marathons in 51 days. He says that days 1 & 2 were relatively easy, but that days 3 - 10 were almost impossibly hard. However, from day 11 onwards he was surprised at how much easier it became, and was all about his body adjusting to his "new normal".  Maybe Kasja has just hit the "days 3 - 10" part of her challenge.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Hillbilly on January 05, 2016, 01:53:20 pm
It just strikes me as an odd thing to be experiencing 4 days into a record attempt, based on my own experience in the wacky world of Audax headbangery.  But no biggie.  I'm sure it will settle down into something manageable.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 05, 2016, 01:53:54 pm
And within c30 miles of Steve at this point. Who knows, when she heads off to Norfolk she might even cross paths with him. Her calendar shows a "confirmed" visit to Warmington today and a loop there tomorrow, before heading East.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 05, 2016, 01:58:42 pm
It just strikes me as an odd thing to be experiencing 4 days into a record attempt, based on my own experience.  But no biggie.  I'm sure it will settle down into something manageable.

I on the other hand, see it as normal for a challenge  ;). Where's the challenge in riding within yourself?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: fboab on January 05, 2016, 01:59:12 pm
Even if you regularly ride 600s, the second day is a killer. We're always tectonically slow on the second morning. You warm up.

I think she'll ride herself into fitness- she's not racing, and even at 10mph that's only 10 hours riding.
She's having enough time off the bike for recovery, and I see She has a chiropodist chiropractic on board (http://www.rad-chiro.co.uk/). She'll be able to tweak bike fit and all that if any issues come up.

She'll (as they say) be reet.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mcshroom on January 05, 2016, 02:33:48 pm
It's in many ways as much like a long cycle tour as an audax. With around 100 mpd to do she has quite a bit of time off the bike each evening.

I always find I ride myself into fitness on a longer tour, and so I would expect similar in this case. Anyway we'll all get to see as she goes on :)
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: clarion on January 05, 2016, 03:44:12 pm
And within c30 miles of Steve at this point. Who knows, when she heads off to Norfolk she might even cross paths with him. Her calendar shows a "confirmed" visit to Warmington today and a loop there tomorrow, before heading East.

When I let her know the other day she hadn't been far from Steve, her reaction was 'Cool!'
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 05, 2016, 05:31:40 pm
And now about 5 miles apart...but destined to pass like ships in the night I expect.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: DaveE128 on January 05, 2016, 10:35:02 pm
I gather from Strava that today was ended early by a puncture. Have some sympathy for not wanting to change it in the cold and dark. I'm sure there will be a flood of people suggesting tubeless!

Interesting to hear the comparison with the Eddie Izzard interview - hopefully things will improve for Kajsa in a week or so then!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Feline on January 05, 2016, 11:34:05 pm
This thread makes me slightly wistful- I am not at a point in my life where I could or would do this. But part of me would like to. Giving up a year of income and home life with all that entails is a big sacrifice. Good luck to her- I will be following her efforts :)

For once it it nice to see a difference in a female challenge- in Audax it is assumed that females are equal to males, and generally extra kudos is not given to us for completing the same challenge in the same time frame despite the fact nothing similar would be expected of the female pro cyclists. For those of you assuming the female challenge is 'easy' because it is fewer miles- think again (unless you are female).
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: lahoski on January 06, 2016, 09:43:47 am
For those of you assuming the female challenge is 'easy' because it is fewer miles- think again (unless you are female).
+ 1

I think that's why I find it a little frustrating to read negative comments before she even started. It's fantastic to see someone with so much positive energy and enthusiasm embark on the record. I really hope it has the effect Kajsa wants - to inspire people into taking up physical activity. It's certainly helped encourage me to set myself challenges for the coming year.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mattc on January 06, 2016, 11:44:39 am
Well fewer miles is generally easier! :P
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on January 06, 2016, 11:53:38 am
For those of you assuming the female challenge is 'easy' because it is fewer miles- think again (unless you are female).

And for those that are female (like HK), should they think again? Why?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Greenbank on January 06, 2016, 11:59:08 am
Females don't need to change their mind, they were right first time.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: lahoski on January 06, 2016, 12:02:27 pm
Go Kajsa!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 07, 2016, 09:27:43 am
Another day of possible path-crossing with Steve - around Littleport maybe?  :)

Oops, cue route deviation  ;D

Go both!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 07, 2016, 11:03:40 am
This coming Sunday's ride, a 102 mile loop from Billericay, has a "loop manager" on Facebook, Steve Hunter. I contacted him to find out whether there was any point in my joining the ride and trying to keep up. Apparently they are scheduling in 11h 40m of riding time, with two shortish stops. Steve said that his problem was going to be the opposite of mine as he normally rides at about 18mph! I'm going to go to the start of the ride and see how I get on. If, as a group, they keep up between 11 and 12 mph, then I will probably manage to keep up. Anything faster and I will struggle.

I am a bit disappointed that I can't be there all day to see how I get on, but my duty as a grandfather intervenes.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: orraloon on January 07, 2016, 12:33:25 pm
And now about 5 miles apart...but destined to pass like ships in the night I expect.

And again today.  Currently riding parallel tracks a few miles apart.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: DaveE128 on January 07, 2016, 12:57:06 pm
Seems Steve and Kajsa have both ridden along at least one bit of road today - through Ramsey Mereside. Paths have crossed several times but some time apart I think.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Ham on January 07, 2016, 12:58:38 pm
Paging Hollywood scriptwriters, hollywood scriptwriters to the unlikely endings phone....

 :demon:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: zigzag on January 07, 2016, 01:48:21 pm
how fast does she normally ride? perhaps she could give Steve a tow?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: orraloon on January 07, 2016, 02:11:05 pm
Possible convergence at Mildenhall coming up.

This is exciting.  Got a new internet game to follow amidst the nth week of the green snots.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 07, 2016, 02:27:26 pm
Looks like she's called it a day due to the windy conditions:- from Twitter

Kajsa Tylén
‏@yearinthesaddle   Early end to today, the wind in the Fens was too hazardous for little me. Fingers crossed for better weather tomorrow!

Though she's still moving at the moment  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 07, 2016, 02:31:29 pm
And they're both in Mildenhall, about a mile apart (if trackers are to be relied on)  ;D
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Legs on January 07, 2016, 02:35:08 pm
Presumably, given the constraints of having to begin again where you left off the previous day, it's advantageous to limp back to your base rather than have a vehicle transfer home, in order to (a) rack up a bit of extra mileage, (b) allow you to get back on the road earlier the next day.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: redfalo on January 07, 2016, 02:41:21 pm
Tired legs after such a short space of time? 

That kind of statement doesn't read like someone adequately prepared for a year long challenge.  100 miles a day isn't that far, given the context.  I expect she will cycle herself into form, but the statement does make me wonder if her body will rebel. 

Most randonneurs will be familiar with the fatigue that sets in if you aren't conditioned to long rides, particularly if you are riding further than usual or you are stacking up rides one after the other.  My rule of thumb is that if you aren't conditioned, you ideally need #kms / 100 days rest between rides.  I hope she doesn't get the arse, hand, neck, feet and knee problems that can come with riding too much without building up adequately.

I had the same thought. Her Strava comment after 130k on day 5 was equally disconcerting:

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nearly got there, then punctured, it's too dark and cold and I'm too tired to fix it now so will have to make up the distance another time.

I wish her best of luck!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 07, 2016, 02:44:51 pm
Looks like she's being driven from Mildenhell to the original destination of Thetford (speed at 75kmh!).  So will be taken back to the end point in the morning to restart. Still, only 12 miles shy of her destination. I wish her tracker showed the daily (as it happens) like Steves does.

Edit:  Her "end point" has moved back further from Thetford, which ties in better with her tweet calling it a day. Mabey 25 miles short then.

And after she's stopped for the day the tracker page displays the days mileage, or kilometerage, in this case +/- 98km.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Frank9755 on January 07, 2016, 02:59:50 pm
how fast does she normally ride? perhaps she could give Steve a tow?

Being dropped by her might be the thing to make Steve realise he's not riding fast enough!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: fboab on January 07, 2016, 03:10:45 pm
how fast does she normally ride? perhaps she could give Steve a tow?

Being dropped by her might be the thing to make Steve realise he's not riding fast enough!

Yeah, because being dropped by a GURL is like TOTES HUMILIATION.

 :facepalm:

Really Frank.

Title: Re: womens record
Post by: marcusjb on January 07, 2016, 03:14:35 pm
Looks like she's had enough for the day because of the wind.  Can't blame her, even here in sheltered London I was caught by a gust this lunchtime that had me graze the curb.

I guess the bugger with Guiness rules is that she can not head off in the camper van and find sheltered riding.  Makes it very challenging compared to UMCA (though they have more than enough of their own foibles).
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on January 07, 2016, 03:46:04 pm
how fast does she normally ride? perhaps she could give Steve a tow?

Being dropped by her might be the thing to make Steve realise he's not riding fast enough!

Yeah, because being dropped by a GURL is like TOTES HUMILIATION.

 :facepalm:

Really Frank.

No. He needs to ride more than twice as far each day as she does. Steve is probably not planning to ride for more than twice as many hours, therefore he should be riding at least as fast as she does.

Disclosure: I have been dropped by women many times. You get used to the rejection and humiliation after a while...
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: zigzag on January 07, 2016, 03:46:21 pm
how fast does she normally ride? perhaps she could give Steve a tow?

Being dropped by her might be the thing to make Steve realise he's not riding fast enough!

Yeah, because being dropped by a GURL is like TOTES HUMILIATION.

 :facepalm:

Really Frank.
i don't see Steve feeling humiliated by a faster female, however this might give him a impetus to push slightly harder. and they could talk.. ;)
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Frank9755 on January 07, 2016, 04:12:37 pm
how fast does she normally ride? perhaps she could give Steve a tow?

Being dropped by her might be the thing to make Steve realise he's not riding fast enough!

Yeah, because being dropped by a GURL is like TOTES HUMILIATION.

 :facepalm:

Really Frank.

I think you are reading something into it that I didn't put there!

Kajsa has stated what speed she intends to ride at.  From memory it is something like 11-12 mph.  There's nothing wrong with going at that speed as it is perfectly consistent with her objectives.  But if Steve isn't able to match it, it should be a cause for concern.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: redfalo on January 07, 2016, 04:31:58 pm
how fast does she normally ride? perhaps she could give Steve a tow?

Being dropped by her might be the thing to make Steve realise he's not riding fast enough!

Yeah, because being dropped by a GURL is like TOTES HUMILIATION.

 :facepalm:

Really Frank.

I think you are reading something into it that I didn't put there!

Kajsa has stated what speed she intends to ride at.  From memory it is something like 11-12 mph.  There's nothing wrong with going at that speed as it is perfectly consistent with her objectives.  But if Steve isn't able to match it, it should be a cause for concern.

actually, according to Strava data, her moving average currently stands at around 20kph, much slower than Steve's
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Greenbank on January 07, 2016, 04:37:17 pm
how fast does she normally ride? perhaps she could give Steve a tow?

Being dropped by her might be the thing to make Steve realise he's not riding fast enough!

Yeah, because being dropped by a GURL is like TOTES HUMILIATION.

 :facepalm:

Really Frank.

I think you are reading something into it that I didn't put there!

Kajsa has stated what speed she intends to ride at.  From memory it is something like 11-12 mph.  There's nothing wrong with going at that speed as it is perfectly consistent with her objectives.  But if Steve isn't able to match it, it should be a cause for concern.

actually, according to Strava data, her moving average currently stands at around 20kph, much slower than Steve's

Yes, hence Frank's tongue-in-cheek comment about Steve.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Frank9755 on January 07, 2016, 05:10:11 pm
Yes, you (RF) are not reading something into it that I implicitly did put there!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mattc on January 07, 2016, 07:16:06 pm
Paging Hollywood scriptwriters, hollywood scriptwriters to the unlikely endings phone....

 :demon:

Love it :D

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Chris S on January 07, 2016, 08:49:37 pm
I'm really enjoying Kajsa's film clips on Facebook. Feedback is everything (and I got to hear how to pronounce her name, which was handy).

Alicia's films have been great too.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on January 07, 2016, 09:49:51 pm
She is doing just fine and we wish her the very best.  I wonder how many LADY AUK MEMBERS could have a crack at this record?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 08, 2016, 08:34:19 am
Tracker is live for day 8  :thumbsup:

And I see thet tracker page has been changed so that actual mileage for the day is displayed in "real time".
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: lahoski on January 08, 2016, 01:37:12 pm
Aaannd she's off again. Presumably after having had lunch.

I'm glad you can see the current days total now - it was starting to annoy me as it's the kind of thing I like to check multiple times a day. In a not weird way.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Hillbilly on January 08, 2016, 01:49:46 pm
She is doing just fine and we wish her the very best.  I wonder how many LADY AUK MEMBERS could have a crack at this record?

I suspect the question is more how many would want to. 
I can think of at least two who would destroy the current record if they applied themselves to it.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: fboab on January 08, 2016, 02:23:33 pm
Precisely.

365 days of riding a moderately long way is not a challenge I'm going to contemplate this lifetime.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: SoreTween on January 08, 2016, 03:15:09 pm
Not ruling out 365 days of riding an extraordinarily long way then?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: fboab on January 08, 2016, 04:16:12 pm
365 days of an extraordinarily long way isn't something I'm capable of.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on January 08, 2016, 05:02:50 pm
Ah! So you contemplate riding a very long way?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 08, 2016, 07:44:29 pm
She is doing just fine and we wish her the very best.  I wonder how many LADY AUK MEMBERS could have a crack at this record?

I suspect the question is more how many would want to. 
I can think of at least two who would destroy the current record if they applied themselves to it.

Damning with faint praise it seems to me  :-\
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Greenbank on January 08, 2016, 07:49:33 pm
Out of the many that have the mental/physical capacity to beat the current record there are very few that are in a position to spend a year doing so; careers/jobs/family/money/etc.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: followmychallenge on January 08, 2016, 09:27:50 pm
Tracker is live for day 8  :thumbsup:

And I see thet tracker page has been changed so that actual mileage for the day is displayed in "real time".

Jep! Been following this post for a few days now. Couldn't resist to tweak the code a bit after reading this.

Tedde
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on January 08, 2016, 09:29:56 pm
Out of the many that have the mental/physical capacity to beat the current record there are very few that are in a position to spend a year doing so; careers/jobs/family/money/etc.




Treat yourself to a gap year!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on January 08, 2016, 09:30:55 pm
Out of the many that have the mental/physical capacity to beat the current record there are very few that are in a position to spend a year doing so; careers/jobs/family/money/etc.



Treat yourself to a gap year!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 08, 2016, 09:32:10 pm
Out of the many that have the mental/physical capacity to beat the current record there are very few that are in a position to spend a year doing so; careers/jobs/family/money/etc.



Treat yourself to a gap year!

That would also require a sex change.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Feline on January 08, 2016, 10:10:12 pm
For those of you assuming the female challenge is 'easy' because it is fewer miles- think again (unless you are female).

And for those that are female (like HK), should they think again? Why?

I only meant that anyone who is female can decide for themselves if they think it's easy- I'm not intending to speak for them, IYSWIM.
I'm sure HK could push the record way out of reach of most of us (and definitely me!) if she chose to do it  ;D
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Hillbilly on January 09, 2016, 05:32:53 am
She is doing just fine and we wish her the very best.  I wonder how many LADY AUK MEMBERS could have a crack at this record?

I suspect the question is more how many would want to. 
I can think of at least two who would destroy the current record if they applied themselves to it.

Damning with faint praise it seems to me  :-\

Sorry? I don't understand how my statement qualifies as either damning or faint praise?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: jsabine on January 09, 2016, 09:14:24 am
I wonder if RAF sees it as possible to infer a suggestion that there are some members who aren't applying themselves, or that the current record is easy, given that it could be 'destroyed' so readily.

(I think you could read it that way, but only if you were really determined ...)
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: JohnR on January 09, 2016, 10:34:49 am
Tracker is live for day 8

And I see thet tracker page has been changed so that actual mileage for the day is displayed in "real time".

Jep! Been following this post for a few days now. Couldn't resist to tweak the code a bit after reading this.

Tedde

Welcome to the forum Kajsa, great start, keep it going  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mattc on January 09, 2016, 03:35:12 pm
There has been an exchange of tweets: https://twitter.com/yearinthesaddle/status/685546882051997697

!!!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 09, 2016, 03:42:10 pm
I wonder if RAF sees it as possible to infer a suggestion that there are some members who aren't applying themselves, or that the current record is easy, given that it could be 'destroyed' so readily.

(I think you could read it that way, but only if you were really determined ...)

Crikey - that wasn't intent at all! It just I don't get the whole "but many other could do much better" thing.  As I've said elsewhere, it's likely that someone like Chrissie Wellington could easily do it - she could possibly rival Steve, Kurt et al, but she isn't.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: clarion on January 09, 2016, 09:51:06 pm
Tracker is live for day 8  :thumbsup:

And I see thet tracker page has been changed so that actual mileage for the day is displayed in "real time".

Jep! Been following this post for a few days now. Couldn't resist to tweak the code a bit after reading this.

Tedde

Cool!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 10, 2016, 06:19:12 am
On my way to Billericay to join today's ride. Hopefully I will be able to keep up.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on January 10, 2016, 07:47:03 am
On my way to Billericay to join today's ride. Hopefully I will be able to keep up.



Have a good day,  we look forward to your report later.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Basil on January 10, 2016, 08:35:21 am
On my way to Billericay to join today's ride. Hopefully I will be able to keep up.

GO WOWBAGGER!

 ;D
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 10, 2016, 09:17:17 am
And they're off!   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: clarion on January 10, 2016, 09:41:09 am
Go Kajsa!  Go Bagger!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rabbit on January 10, 2016, 09:52:30 am
Oooh can't wait for the report Wowbagger!   :thumbsup:

Go Kajsa!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on January 10, 2016, 09:56:07 am
Nor me :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 10, 2016, 01:34:05 pm
I got the first train out of Southend Vic (6.15) and I think I had it to myself to begin with. A couple of late-night revellers got on at Hockley (quite a nightlife in Hockley, evidently) and when I got out at Billericay I discovered, to my annoyance, that the lift was behind a locked metal gate that no-one had bothered to open at that time in the morning. This meant carrying my bike up a flight of stairs, which normally is no problem, but I struggled today because the Sodding Arthritis was attacking my right shoulder. Picking up the bike was painful, as was putting my arm behind my back to retrieve anything from my pocket.

I arrived at the appointed place to find one bloke there. He was wearing a Wallace & Grommit top, in the manner of Rower40, and we were shortly joined by a few others. The first two blokes clearly knew each other and nattered a fair bit. The final four cyclists to arrive included Kajsa herself, and after a brief conversation in which she said that I was the only member of the group she recognised from FB photos, we had just enough time to discover that Wallace & Grommit Man had a rear wheel puncture and we were away, leaving W & G M to fix his puncture and attempt to catch up.

I have to say that I was a little concerned when I saw the assembled company that I might have trouble staying with them, as they were a) not old and b) not fat. Kajsa was reassuring in that she claimed that she was riding very slowly so I shouldn't have a problem, and for the first 3 or 4 miles I did indeed stay with the others. However, as soon as a climb appeared for which I did not have the momentum to get up in highish gear, I lost ground and try as I might, the last time I saw them disappear over the horizon was around the 6.5 mile mark, so clearly Basil did not use a big enough font. Thereafter I was on my own until, just before the café at Norton Heath, W & G M came storming past with an "Ello mate!" and, like Rabbit*, was gone again before I had time to think of a reply.

I headed towards Willingale on the narrow-windy road and quite enjoyed a little watery sunshine, but in the end I pottered in the general direction of Chelmsford via Radley and Newney Greens with their ornithologically-named pubs (The Cuckoo and The Duck). YACFers may remember rides I have organised which involved lunches there. Both, of course, were firmly closed whilst I was going through, at about 9am on a Sunday.

At one point I was awoken from my scarcely-mobile reverie by a lady who overtook me on the inside, it being entirely my fault for riding on the right-hand-side of the road as I climbed a modest slope at about 4mph. She said "Good morning!" just in time to stop me swerving into her, and she too left me well behind. Half-an-hour or so later I saw her sitting on a bench in Admiral's Park, reading a book and eating some breakfast. I stopped and apologised for my random riding earlier, and she told me that she had wondered which side to go. She was on a planned 120-mile ride from Harlow to Colchester and back and showed me the book, which was a miniature AA road atlas. It's quite refreshing to see people doing things the old-fashioned way.

Soon afterwards I was in Chelmsford station drinking coffee and awaiting the arrival of the delayed 9.58 to Liverpool Street.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/12487016_1543647699287767_6959391398078774496_o.jpg)
Kajsa Tylen leads the way into a car park in Billericay.

*A. A. Milne's version, not the esteemed Rabbit OTP.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Shreds on January 10, 2016, 01:50:19 pm
Perhaps I should have strayed out.....

I was concerned with Kajsa saying she recognised you from your online photo, then re-read it and realised it said fb, not YAFC!

Nevertheless congrats for doing the early rota.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 10, 2016, 02:04:15 pm
If I find that my current attempt in lard-reduction actually come to anything, and I speed up a bit, I will try to join another of Kajsa's rides later in the year. If I can get down to about 17 stone I would imagine that I would stand a chance.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on January 10, 2016, 02:04:34 pm
WOWBAGGER  thanks for such a detailed and informative posting.  If only Steve had allowed company on rides we would  (still could! ?) Have enjoyed such reports by the dozen!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Marmitegeoff on January 10, 2016, 02:18:08 pm
   
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It appears that we finished this endeavor just in time. There is a cold front moving in that will hit tonight that will drop the temps down into the 30's. Today we are off to walk the beach and then check out history of st augustine before heading to Vite Bikes tomorrow to pick up a bent for Alicia. If she is going to go after the women's record she will need the right tool. Then it is back to Arkansas for work and to preperations.

Quoted from another thread.

Looks like there could be some competition.

Go Kajta



Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Pale Rider on January 10, 2016, 02:30:17 pm
I got the first train out of Southend Vic (6.15) and I think I had it to myself to begin with. A couple of late-night revellers got on at Hockley (quite a nightlife in Hockley, evidently) and when I got out at Billericay I discovered, to my annoyance, that the lift was behind a locked metal gate that no-one had bothered to open at that time in the morning. This meant carrying my bike up a flight of stairs, which normally is no problem, but I struggled today because the Sodding Arthritis was attacking my right shoulder. Picking up the bike was painful, as was putting my arm behind my back to retrieve anything from my pocket.

I arrived at the appointed place to find one bloke there. He was wearing a Wallace & Grommit top, in the manner of Rower40, and we were shortly joined by a few others. The first two blokes clearly knew each other and nattered a fair bit. The final four cyclists to arrive included Kajsa herself, and after a brief conversation in which she said that I was the only member of the group she recognised from FB photos, we had just enough time to discover that Wallace & Grommit Man had a rear wheel puncture and we were away, leaving W & G M to fix his puncture and attempt to catch up.

I have to say that I was a little concerned when I saw the assembled company that I might have trouble staying with them, as they were a) not old and b) not fat. Kajsa was reassuring in that she claimed that she was riding very slowly so I shouldn't have a problem, and for the first 3 or 4 miles I did indeed stay with the others. However, as soon as a climb appeared for which I did not have the momentum to get up in highish gear, I lost ground and try as I might, the last time I saw them disappear over the horizon was around the 6.5 mile mark, so clearly Basil did not use a big enough font. Thereafter I was on my own until, just before the café at Norton Heath, W & G M came storming past with an "Ello mate!" and, like Rabbit*, was gone again before I had time to think of a reply.

I headed towards Willingale on the narrow-windy road and quite enjoyed a little watery sunshine, but in the end I pottered in the general direction of Chelmsford via Radley and Newney Greens with their ornithologically-named pubs (The Cuckoo and The Duck). YACFers may remember rides I have organised which involved lunches there. Both, of course, were firmly closed whilst I was going through, at about 9am on a Sunday.

At one point I was awoken from my scarcely-mobile reverie by a lady who overtook me on the inside, it being entirely my fault for riding on the right-hand-side of the road as I climbed a modest slope at about 4mph. She said "Good morning!" just in time to stop me swerving into her, and she too left me well behind. Half-an-hour or so later I saw her sitting on a bench in Admiral's Park, reading a book and eating some breakfast. I stopped and apologised for my random riding earlier, and she told me that she had wondered which side to go. She was on a planned 120-mile ride from Harlow to Colchester and back and showed me the book, which was a miniature AA road atlas. It's quite refreshing to see people doing things the old-fashioned way.

Soon afterwards I was in Chelmsford station drinking coffee and awaiting the arrival of the delayed 9.58 to Liverpool Street.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t31.0-8/12487016_1543647699287767_6959391398078774496_o.jpg)
Kajsa Tylen leads the way into a car park in Billericay.

*A. A. Milne's version, not the esteemed Rabbit OTP.

Thanks for the interesting report.

Sorry to hear you were dropped, but I'm encouraged to hear Kajsa is taking a professional approach to her attempt.

She made you welcome at the start, but thereafter did what she has to do.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 10, 2016, 02:37:13 pm
Oh I know, and I was expecting to be dropped to be honest. I didn't mind in the slightest - I'd read quite a bit of what she's put about the record and I knew exactly what her policy was. It has given me an incentive, as I mentioned above, to lose a couple of stone, get a bit faster, and maybe try again later in the year. I will keep an eye on her schedule to see when she is next in Essex, or somewhere reasonably accessible from wherever I happen to be at the time.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 10, 2016, 06:53:52 pm
Kajsa posted the following friendly message below my link on her FB page to the above report:-

Quote
Hi Peter, I'm so sorry that you were left behind, I was looking forward to chatting to you, you were so warm and friendly. :) I got dropped myself not long after you got left behind but some lovely people stayed with me. Thank you SO much for coming out to see me, it really does mean a lot. All the best, and I hope we get to catch up another time. :) K
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Legs on January 10, 2016, 07:24:53 pm
Cool!
I hope she allows her knee to heal properly - there's still a long way to go...
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: HK on January 10, 2016, 08:10:37 pm
Would seem that Alicia is showing an interest in the ladies record but I guess via UMCA.  Alicia is about to be treated to a bent by Kurt - clearly knows the way to a woman's heart.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Pale Rider on January 10, 2016, 09:18:31 pm
Kajsa posted the following friendly message below my link on her FB page to the above report:-

Quote
Hi Peter, I'm so sorry that you were left behind, I was looking forward to chatting to you, you were so warm and friendly. :) I got dropped myself not long after you got left behind but some lovely people stayed with me. Thank you SO much for coming out to see me, it really does mean a lot. All the best, and I hope we get to catch up another time. :) K

Kasja comes over as a reet nice lass.

The social media side of the attempt is perhaps more important than it ought to be, but she's embraced it.

The difference between her output and Steve's/the team's is already night and day.

Kasja does have some advantages, she has been able to watch the publicity surrounding Kurt and Steve and learn from it.

More crucially, her schedule is not so onerous allowing her to be off the bike by 5.30pm most days.

This gives her a few hours to attend to herself and attend to social media while still hitting the sack at a reasonable time.

Steve has to finish past midnight to get anywhere near 200 miles, leaving him no time for social media niceties.

Title: Re: womens record
Post by: MacB on January 10, 2016, 09:29:41 pm
Kajsa posted the following friendly message below my link on her FB page to the above report:-

Quote
Hi Peter, I'm so sorry that you were left behind, I was looking forward to chatting to you, you were so warm and friendly cuddly. :) I got dropped myself not long after you got left behind but some lovely people stayed with me. Thank you SO much for coming out to see me, it really does mean a lot. All the best, and I hope we get to catch up another time. :) K

just a little fix there Wow, are you sure you want to lose that weight?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 11, 2016, 08:14:56 am
Another day starts for Kajsa, lets hope the knee doesn't become too troublesome.  :thumbsup:  She should have a reasonable day, with rain clearing eastwards.

On another note it would seem Steve's choice of tubeless tyres was a good one, with Kajsa having had three punctures already.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: clarion on January 11, 2016, 08:27:55 am
[quote authorwhation link=topic=91020.msg1966828#msg1966828 date=1451725016]
I have been tipped a wink by someone in the know that we should keep watching for some more big miles in 2016.
[/quote]

HK, that was what I was alluding to ;)
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 11, 2016, 02:46:06 pm
Another tweak to the tracker page code, and now the photos are all thumbnails. She does seem to get stopped at a lot of level crossings!

And she and Steve are both heading for Ely, albeit from opposite directions.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Shreds on January 12, 2016, 03:51:51 pm
Did anyone get to ride with Katja today as requested? Nothing showing on her Strava photos. She was looking happy until she reached Watham on the Wolds and is now looking a bit non plussed.

I must say that her style of utilising social and multi media is very engaging😃👍
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: TimC on January 12, 2016, 04:07:55 pm
Did anyone get to ride with Katja today as requested?

Who's Katja?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 12, 2016, 05:54:16 pm
She's got about the same mileage (today, so far, at 17:55) as Steve. Which is good for her and not so good for Steve. I think today is what my grandparents would have called "character forming" for her. A slog in the cold on her own. But hopefully the knee is not so troublesome.

Of course Kajsa is nearly home, Steve has another 5-6 hours to go  :o
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Mr Larrington on January 12, 2016, 06:34:35 pm
It would appear that one of the most difficult things about the Ladies' Record is spelling the name of the rider(s) actually or potentially attempting it :D
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mattc on January 12, 2016, 06:48:37 pm
I can easily remember how to _say_ her name.

Spelling it, less so ...
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Kim on January 12, 2016, 07:13:21 pm
Whereas I have the opposite problem, only having encountered it in text.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: clarion on January 12, 2016, 07:57:51 pm
Her attitude reminds me very much of Josie Dew.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: peliroja on January 12, 2016, 08:01:16 pm
I think Kajsa is pronounced "ky-suh" from my recollection of her mum saying her name in one of the videos.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Mr Larrington on January 12, 2016, 08:04:35 pm
And next, pop pickers, Mr W Bagger and his new single "I Was Kajsa Tylen's Batman"
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 13, 2016, 05:58:50 pm
And Kajsa closes in on another 100 miler
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on January 13, 2016, 06:02:55 pm
Well done
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Oakhambike on January 13, 2016, 09:23:31 pm
Yay ! Well done Kasja !

But don't look at the weather forecast for tomorrow in these parts.......
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 13, 2016, 09:31:22 pm
She has reduced her target for tomorrow to 100k.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Basil on January 13, 2016, 09:32:18 pm
OK.  Will somehow tell me how to pronounce Kasja. 
 :-[
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 13, 2016, 09:33:24 pm
It's kajsa and approximately key-sa  :)
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 13, 2016, 09:45:06 pm
OK.  Will somehow tell me how to pronounce Kasja. 
 :-[

I can tell you how to spell it.  :P

Kajsa!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Sea of vapours on January 13, 2016, 09:47:03 pm
On her day 4 video, her mother says her name just after 1m50s in, or about 15 seconds from the end.
https://www.facebook.com/ayearinthesaddle/videos/993766794029369/?theater
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 13, 2016, 09:51:34 pm
*smug mode!*

I discussed the pronunciation of her name with my son last week. He has learned a bit of Swedish, living, as he does, with a Swedish Finn. I suggested Kizer, to rhyme with Tizer, and he thought it might be something else.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Lars on January 13, 2016, 09:52:37 pm
It's kajsa and approximately key-sa  :)

In Swedish Kajsa is a rather uncommon female name. Pronouncing it "kaj" becomes one syllable and "sa" a second.

"kaj" is like "kay" is pronounced in "kayak": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_V0HDw7t7U

"sa" is like " "su" is pronounced in "sun": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9obV-qH6Ndk

Title: Re: womens record
Post by: TimC on January 14, 2016, 09:37:03 am
I have a Swedish friend called Kajsa, so I have known for many years how to say it. Na-na-ner-na-na.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 14, 2016, 11:42:33 am
It looks like an out-and-back today. She's only (!) planning 100k today, because the forecast is bad. Very sensible. It will be warm and sunny later.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 14, 2016, 11:45:03 am
Maybe if the weather isn't as bad as she thought (and it's not great, but not pouring down) she'll push on that little bit. We'll see.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 14, 2016, 11:49:59 am
Yes, I suppose if she finishes in the dry and there's still some daylight, a 20k loop will help for later. As I see it, it's not a speed/time thing for the women's record - at Kajsa's 12ish mph there are plenty of hours in the day. It's a question of dogged determination. There are probably people on here who could, if they felt so inclined, take the current women's record on a 5-day week.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: fboab on January 14, 2016, 12:08:53 pm
I really wish people would stop going on about how (sorry to pick on you, Wow)
There are probably people on here who could, if they felt so inclined, take the current women's record on a 5-day week.
Billie Flemming's had the record for umpteen years and none of these o-so-capable women have stepped up.

Kajsa is the first woman who's put her head up above the parapet and said 'right, I'm going to devote a year of my life to this'

That's a much bigger deal than 'feeling inclined'. You've got to be in it to win it, and she's the only woman who's done that. Good on her.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on January 14, 2016, 12:40:59 pm
I tend to agree. There is a very big difference between "being able to" and "actually doing".

I hope Kajsa gets through the first couple of months with a decent mileage total, continues to the end and "actually does get the record".
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 14, 2016, 01:19:05 pm
I really wish people would stop going on about how (sorry to pick on you, Wow)
There are probably people on here who could, if they felt so inclined, take the current women's record on a 5-day week.
Billie Flemming's had the record for umpteen years and none of these o-so-capable women have stepped up.

Kajsa is the first woman who's put her head up above the parapet and said 'right, I'm going to devote a year of my life to this'

That's a much bigger deal than 'feeling inclined'. You've got to be in it to win it, and she's the only woman who's done that. Good on her.

OK, poor choice of words possibly, but I'm struggling to find a better one. Expressions like "have the cojones", "tough enough", "determined enough" I think would be inappropriate or implicitly denigrate some of the rock-hard female cyclists who achieve remarkable things on two wheels but whose inclinations in cycling lie elsewhere. There is no question that Kajsa is taking on a massive challenge, but I think hers, compared to Steve's, for example, is tilted slightly more towards the psychological and less towards the physical.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Jaded on January 14, 2016, 02:54:15 pm
"if they put the ironing down" maybe?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 14, 2016, 03:33:52 pm
Seems she stuck to her plan of a "short" day.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: clarion on January 14, 2016, 03:35:43 pm
She's built a decent total so far in pretty grim weather, and avoiding flooded roads.  A short day in the fierce, cold wind seems reasonable.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: TimC on January 14, 2016, 04:14:05 pm
"if they put the ironing down" maybe?

You are a Bad Man!! ;D
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rabbit on January 14, 2016, 04:22:53 pm
I think she is amazing and, I agree, there are very few woman who would want to have a go at the record that I know of.  She is in it, to win it, because she is brave, committed and prepared to donate a whole entire year of her life to it.   

I have no doubt physically any of the big hitting audax ladies on here could have a shot at the record....and we would no doubt be smashed into oblivion if one of the top endurance females like Emily Chappell, Lee Craigie or Alicia decided to have a go. But would any of them want to?  I know for certain I'd not loose a precious year of my life, time spent with the ones I love, time spent climbing hills with big vistas and space in Wales, time working to make ends meet.  I'd not sacrifice that to ride around flat roads for a year, even if I did have a chance of breaking a record.  I am not that focussed, and no doubt, neither are many other ladies here. The top pro riders, the strong riders, they all have other records to take, competitions to win, sponsorship deals to fulfil - have they got the time or focus to do this?

Kasja, on the other hand, is focussed, has a good game plan, has clearly thought out what she wants to do, is doing it for the bigger picture and, quite frankly, seems like a lovely person.  I really hope she gets the record and holds it for a while at least.   
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mattc on January 14, 2016, 07:44:57 pm
As I see it, it's not a speed/time thing for the women's record - at Kajsa's 12ish mph there are plenty of hours in the day. It's a question of dogged determination.
Indeed. As 2-word summaries go, that may take some beating.

I wish her good luck and good weather!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 15, 2016, 10:16:05 am
Yet another level crossing photo from Kajsa  :)
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: clarion on January 15, 2016, 12:07:23 pm
But, rabbit, there are intimations that Alicia Searvogel might well do it.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: fboab on January 15, 2016, 12:49:02 pm
But, rabbit, there are intimations that Alicia Searvogel might well do it.
I'll believe that when I see it.
Alicia isn't the mile muncher Kurt is - it's not that long ago she did her first 200km ride.
The first Mrs Searvogel has been minding Kurt's business while he worked on the record, and I'm fairly sure Kurt said he couldn't do that again - so who's going to do her support? Of everyone, they know how much that support is needed.
I suspect he's pulling our legs.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Si S on January 15, 2016, 12:56:19 pm
But, rabbit, there are intimations that Alicia Searvogel might well do it.

When asked somebody very close to one of the others named in rabbit's statement said he wouldn't be too surprised to see an attempt. <conjecture>
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 16, 2016, 09:50:15 am
Kajsa seems to be going well this morning. 39k done. IIRC she is starting a 100 mile loop in Lincoln in the morning.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: clarion on January 16, 2016, 11:15:09 am
I learned this morning from a CTC blog that Janet Davison last year set a Guinness World Record for most miles pedalled in a month by a woman, at 4010 miles.  Chapeau to her.

As an aside, she says she was inspired by Billie,  but couldn't manage to set a year or so aside for the full attempt.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 16, 2016, 06:03:34 pm
Another 100 miles in the bag fof Kajsa  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: yanto on January 16, 2016, 06:19:28 pm
Another 100 miles in the bag fof Kajsa  :thumbsup:

I was out cycling today when i saw a lone lady cyclist coming towards me, I recognised her, I shouted "go Kajsa good luck with the record attempt" she beamed a big smile and waved.

When i got back I checked the tracker to see how she was getting on, I saw she was cycling a good 50 miles north of me - oops and apologies to the young lady who must think I'm barking mad.

Good to see another century clocked up!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Chris S on January 16, 2016, 06:22:23 pm
You're not the only one to have perpetrated mistaken identity - but at least I didn't yell out :).

Remember folks - not every female cyclist is Kajsa, OK?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: SoreTween on January 16, 2016, 06:29:29 pm
I did :-[
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mattc on January 16, 2016, 07:06:13 pm
You're not the only one to have perpetrated mistaken identity - but at least I didn't yell out :).

Remember folks - not every female cyclist is Kajsa, OK?
Is this a bit like the Random Things Shouted By Oiks thread?

On a cycling forum somewhere;
"
This random bloke shouted out "Go Kaiser!"
weird.
"
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Jaded on January 16, 2016, 08:11:29 pm
I thought everyone smiled wanly at recumbent riders?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Bianchi Boy on January 17, 2016, 08:26:10 am
You're not the only one to have perpetrated mistaken identity - but at least I didn't yell out :).

Remember folks - not every female cyclist is Kajsa, OK?
Is this a bit like the Random Things Shouted By Oiks thread?

On a cycling forum somewhere;
"
This random bloke shouted out "Go Kaiser!"
weird.
"
I thought most recumbent riders were Dutch not German. There again if you have a poor ear for language you could possibly confuse the two  ???

BB
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Greenbank on January 17, 2016, 08:33:48 am
Kaiser, so say you?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: mattc on January 17, 2016, 08:35:40 am
(where did recumbents come from? This is over my head ... )
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: yanto on January 17, 2016, 08:40:56 am
I hope she's staying on main roads, we had 3" of snow last night.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 17, 2016, 08:46:43 am
Her first photo of the day shows pretty clear roads where she is.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: wajcgac on January 17, 2016, 09:45:49 am
I had some fanciful idea of maybe joining Kajsa today, if she'd had a late start to avoid the early ice, as I live very close by. Opening the tracker showed she was already near to Sleaford - she is obviously made of strong stuff.

It's very crisp and frosty here and looks like we may have had a very slight dusting of snow. A good 50% of the route she has taken to Sleaford is on ungritted roads.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 17, 2016, 01:07:51 pm
Another day, another puncture it seems. I wonder who's maintaining Kajsa's bike? And who will do it / provide spares when she's away from base / in Denmark and Sweden for several weeks? 

Edit: I'm not saying she's not capable of doing the maintenance herself by the way, just assuming, like Steve, that she'll have some assistance in that respect..
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Kim on January 17, 2016, 01:33:27 pm
It's a good question, especially as maintenance is more critical for her, being limited to one bike.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: marcusjb on January 17, 2016, 01:35:38 pm
There was a photo on Facebook or Twitter of a mechanic working on her bike with a thanks from her. 

Edited to add photo - Here.  He is called Andy.  It appears some sponsorship/assistance is coming from Leisure Lakes bike shop.

(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xla1/v/t1.0-9/12510442_998040643601984_2364248888967692941_n.jpg?oh=7159eac056d475f3c5b0ee6fb2fd2362&oe=5743BAA5)
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Pale Rider on January 17, 2016, 02:17:07 pm
One of Kajsa's social media pics showed lots of Leisure Lakes/bike company boxes, so it appears she's well-stocked with spare parts.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 17, 2016, 04:27:56 pm
I knew she was sponsored by them, but she's spending quite a long time away from there on and off.  And even though she's "only" riding 9 hours a day, she might not want to do a full strip of a transmission in the evening. However she does seem to have an extensive network of friends for accomodation and support, and I guess at least some are able to assist mechanically, and the spares will be in the caravan her mums driving.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 17, 2016, 06:09:19 pm
Another 100 miler, almost to the yard. Kajsa's done her homework for this attempt.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on January 17, 2016, 08:05:29 pm
Excellent day and well done
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 17, 2016, 09:52:34 pm
Yes, she publicises her route on Strave the night before, thereby giving others the chance to ride with her. She appreciates the company.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Pale Rider on January 17, 2016, 11:39:22 pm
Then there's the occasional Sunday rides with Kasja which appear on her website.

Bearing in mind Kasja, on her own account, is not a cyclist, and it's still early days, her approach to the bid is very polished and professional.

Only needing to do nine or 10 hour days gives Kasja more chance to get other things done, but she's certainly using the time wisely.
 
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Kim on January 17, 2016, 11:40:10 pm
Bearing in mind Kasja, on her own account, is not a cyclist

She's certainly doing a good impression of one.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Jaded on January 17, 2016, 11:54:57 pm
Indeed.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 18, 2016, 01:26:20 pm
Kajsa is halfway through day 18  :).

Does anyone know how she's going to manage the Guinness "Start from where you stop" activity when transitioning abroad? She can probably cycle to Sweden from Denmark, but how does she get to the continent and stay within the rules?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Kim on January 18, 2016, 01:28:51 pm
Presumably they have a rule for transfer across bodies of water, otherwise the round-the-world record would be a lot more work...
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Arry-R on January 18, 2016, 02:13:52 pm


Bearing in mind Kasja, on her own account, is not a cyclist, and it's still early days, her approach to the bid is
[/quote]




Kajsa



 :facepalm:
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 18, 2016, 02:22:43 pm
Presumably they have a rule for transfer across bodies of water, otherwise the round-the-world record would be a lot more work...

Presumably  :)  I did try and google the Guinness input/rules but failed miserably  :-\
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 18, 2016, 02:24:17 pm


Bearing in mind Kasja, on her own account, is not a cyclist, and it's still early days, her approach to the bid is




Kajsa



 :facepalm:
[/quote]

I think Kajsa is a corruption of Karin.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Greenbank on January 18, 2016, 02:26:04 pm
Bearing in mind Kasja, on her own account, is not a cyclist

What exactly is "a cyclist"? I'd put that phrase down to modesty on her part.

I'd say that someone who trained for and did an Ironman in a good time definitely is a cyclist (and a runner, and a swimmer).

A 112 mile ride in 7h14m44 after a 2.5 mile swim and before a 5 hour marathon is way better than the vast majority of the population could ever hope for.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Kim on January 18, 2016, 02:42:03 pm
Bearing in mind Kasja, on her own account, is not a cyclist

What exactly is "a cyclist"? I'd put that phrase down to modesty on her part.

I'd say that someone who trained for and did an Ironman in a good time definitely is a cyclist (and a runner, and a swimmer).

Sounds like she's a triathlete, and in my experience they tend to use such phrasing to identify which of the disciplines they're most confident with.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 18, 2016, 03:04:36 pm
Indeed, when she first decided to do triathlon, she commented that "riding a road bike was very different" so presumably had been doing off-road riding up to that point.

Her ironman time is a little outside that of my stepson (same age group) and I know how hard he had to work to fit training in around a full time job.  Cycling is his worst discipline too, and the one where he improved the most between the two events he has done at that distance.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Kim on January 18, 2016, 03:08:36 pm
Indeed, when she first decided to do triathlon, she commented that "riding a road bike was very different" so presumably had been doing off-road riding up to that point.

Or perhaps only owned a 'normal' bike (hybrid or similar) like most people who own a bike but don't consider themselves 'cyclists'.


All the more impressive, if so.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wobbly on January 18, 2016, 07:43:35 pm
Yes, she publicises her route on Strave the night before, thereby giving others the chance to ride with her.

Where on Strava is that?

Title: Re: womens record
Post by: fboab on January 18, 2016, 07:48:29 pm
She plans on strava and shares on Facebook, I think
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Kim on January 18, 2016, 07:52:32 pm
"Damn and blast Facebook!" said Kim, the words coming easily through force of habit.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Greenbank on January 18, 2016, 07:54:38 pm
https://www.facebook.com/ayearinthesaddle/ works fine in private browsing mode. You don't need a FB account to be able to read it.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Kim on January 18, 2016, 08:05:16 pm
https://www.facebook.com/ayearinthesaddle/ works fine in private browsing mode. You don't need a FB account to be able to read it.

Ah, that's cool.  The Facebook button on her wesbsite wanted me to log in.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: clarion on January 18, 2016, 10:42:09 pm
Pretty down in the latest video.  Still the same zany humour from Kajsa and Tina.

I hope sleep improved things.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: TimC on January 18, 2016, 11:27:02 pm
Quote
Bearing in mind Kasja, on her own account, is not a cyclist, and it's still early days, her approach to the bid is
Kajsa
:facepalm:
I think Kajsa is a corruption of Karin.

No, Kajsa is a discrete name on its own - it's related to Katerin, Catherine (Katherine), and Caitlin. Her use of Karin is possibly a derivative, but may more likely be a second name or just a pet name. I'm sure she'll happily elucidate if asked!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 19, 2016, 06:35:45 am
Or maybe she got fed up with Kajsa being mis-spelled and mis-pronounced!  :D
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 19, 2016, 07:30:10 am
Pretty down in the latest video.  Still the same zany humour from Kajsa and Tina.

I hope sleep improved things.

Looks like they did, she's already underway @ 07:30. Go Kajsa!
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Oakhambike on January 19, 2016, 08:58:06 am
Go Kasja1 Is bright out here today but pretty bloody cold - hope she has a trouble free ride.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Greenbank on January 19, 2016, 09:53:06 am
Bearing in mind Kasja, on her own account, is not a cyclist

What exactly is "a cyclist"? I'd put that phrase down to modesty on her part.

I'd say that someone who trained for and did an Ironman in a good time definitely is a cyclist (and a runner, and a swimmer).

Sounds like she's a triathlete, and in my experience they tend to use such phrasing to identify which of the disciplines they're most confident with.

Ha, in that case I'm "not a cyclist" either as I'm a swimmer. I've not done badly for not being a cyclist though.

Anyway, back to Kajsa.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: clarion on January 19, 2016, 11:02:27 pm
Hilarious Day 19 video.  Kajsa is a real hoot! :)
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Wowbagger on January 19, 2016, 11:43:32 pm
Yes, she publicises her route on Strave the night before, thereby giving others the chance to ride with her.

Where on Strava is that?

Since I am following her, it turns up on my activity feed.

https://www.strava.com/routes/3976792

No facebook presence required.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Kim on January 19, 2016, 11:47:16 pm
Even better.  I hadn't spotted that in my activity feed before.
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: rafletcher on January 20, 2016, 07:39:52 am
Well from her vlog yesterday saw her in better spirits, and she's off again @ 07:30. A clockwise loop via Lincoln and Grantham.

And another 100 miles added  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on January 20, 2016, 10:49:10 pm
Thanks for the thread retitling.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Arry-R on January 21, 2016, 05:59:42 am
Thanks for the thread retitling.


PLUS ONE  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Jack_P (Burlycross) on January 21, 2016, 08:24:13 pm

Just spotted on bikeradar story on Bruce (boy that guys getting some publicity) this. So potentially 2 different record holders here too.

As a postscript, the UMCA informed us that American athlete Jacquie Schlitter will mount an attempt on the women’s Year record of 29,603 miles (47,642km) in June 2016. This was set back in 1938 by Britain’s Billie Dovey, dubbed the ‘Rudge-Whitworth Keep-Fit Girl’, who managed a daily average of 81 miles (130km) despite encountering heavy snow in December 1937. They were made of stern stuff back then…
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on January 21, 2016, 08:36:42 pm
Presumably on a recumbent
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Shreds on January 21, 2016, 09:50:09 pm
These records sit for decades unchallenged and largely unheard of, then all of a sudden, loads of people on both side of the Atlantic are having a crack at these 1930s records.   

Must be something in the air.

However, as is being shown in the mens record, it is not as easy to do or to satisfy the criteria as it appears on paper...

Don't take that the wrong way...I am gunning for Kajsa....go go go  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on January 21, 2016, 10:23:40 pm
These records sit for decades unchallenged and largely unheard of, then all of a sudden, loads of people on both side of the Atlantic are having a crack at these 1930s records.   

Must be something in the air.

However, as is being shown in the mens record, it is not as easy to do or to satisfy the criteria as it appears on paper...

Don't take that the wrong way...I am gunning for Kajsa....go go go  :thumbsup:

I think it's a necessary preliminary for a world war in which 50 million or more die, but POBI is over there somewhere.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on January 22, 2016, 07:36:48 am
No dubt Jacquie S will blitz the mileage Kajsa is doing, but will then (assuming both finish of course) hold a UCMA record whilst Kajsa will hold the Guinness record - and that's fair enough as the two records are run under different rules. And having just watched Kajsa's latest vlog, it's difficult to imagine a more engaging "contestant"  :thumbsup: It was also notable that she was receiving a proper massage from the physio, which seems eminently sensible while the opportunity exists.

Not on the road yet, so a later than recent start. But it'll be a damn sight warmer when she does get going.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on January 22, 2016, 08:04:39 am
To add to the confusion that some seem to have with Kajsa's name, I just made a small contribution to her "fund me" page and the return message was from someone named "Karin Tylen".  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on January 22, 2016, 08:11:09 am
Yep, I did too, and that's when I wondered if Kajsa was an affectionate form of Karin, which it may, or may not be  :)  Or maybe the bank software couldn't handle Kajsa.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Jack_P (Burlycross) on January 22, 2016, 01:03:38 pm
with no Steve to follow (boo)
I thought I'd put up a few pictures and thoughts showing Kajsa on Day 1 when I rode with her.

http://wp.me/pO0Yd-Di

(edit: whoops get the full name right boy)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on January 22, 2016, 02:50:05 pm
I have to say, what with Kurt and Steve now finished, and all the nonsense around Bruce, it's all about Kajsa for now as far as I am concerned. :)

I did imagine a scenario where, if Kurt & Alicia come over to the UK, we can arrange a ride to include Steve and Kajsa.  That would be very cool.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: TimC on January 22, 2016, 02:50:58 pm
I have to say, what with Kurt and Steve now finished, and all the nonsense around Bruce, it's all about Kajsa for now as far as I am concerned. :)

I did imagine a scenario where, if Kurt & Alicia come over to the UK, we can arrange a ride to include Steve and Kajsa.  That would be very cool.

Agreed on both counts.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: red marley on January 22, 2016, 03:07:34 pm
I have to say, what with Kurt and Steve now finished, and all the nonsense around Bruce, it's all about Kajsa for now as far as I am concerned. :)

Indeed. I challenge anyone, who's not seen it already, not to be charmed by her video diary for the 19th January:

https://youtu.be/jlhT0TZUV84
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: tonyh on January 22, 2016, 03:28:38 pm
Utterly failed that challenge!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: fboab on January 22, 2016, 03:42:35 pm
I'm a total Kajsa Stalker.

 :thumbsup:

I kind of like the fact she's not hard core- or rather, she is in a very human understated way.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: TimC on January 22, 2016, 03:52:39 pm
She is lovely! I really liked the anti-product-placement skit. Then the technical explanation is Swedish. Brilliant! ;D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: wajcgac on January 23, 2016, 07:08:34 am
No dubt Jacquie S will blitz the mileage Kajsa is doing, but will then (assuming both finish of course) hold a UCMA record whilst Kajsa will hold the Guinness record - and that's fair enough as the two records are run under different rules. And having just watched Kajsa's latest vlog, it's difficult to imagine a more engaging "contestant"  :thumbsup: It was also notable that she was receiving a proper massage from the physio, which seems eminently sensible while the opportunity exists.

Not on the road yet, so a later than recent start. But it'll be a damn sight warmer when she does get going.

It turns out that Kurt's effort has now been recognised by Guinness.

So is it the case that Jacquie Schlitter will attempt the women's record under UMCA rules allowing drafting, recumbents and vehicle transfers etc. and then be credited a Guinness record as well at the end?

Kajsa has to adhere to Guinness rules that are far more restrictive - how is that fair?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on January 23, 2016, 09:52:33 am

Kajsa has to adhere to Guinness rules that are far more restrictive - how is that fair?

Unless Guinness separate the records in some way (as indoor and outdoor records in athletics are), then it isn't fair IMO.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: TimC on January 23, 2016, 10:00:19 am
I think the unification of any records system or competition will inevitably disadvantage someone as compromises are made. But I find it hard to believe that any material difference will be made to Kajsa's effort, really. While her Guinness rules say she can't draft, she is regularly riding with other people and no doubt there will be times when that rule is infringed in the letter, if not the spirit. On the other hand, Steve rode under the UMCA rules yet very, very rarely rode with others (PBP excepted). I doubt anyone would contend that Steve therefore in some way had it easier.

I'm sure, if Kajsa feels aggrieved by this development, she can contact Guinness for an alleviation.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Greenbank on January 23, 2016, 10:19:51 am
Rules are also often created to prevent extreme behaviours that are unlikely to exist, e.g.

Imagine starting each day with a 20km descent (Bruce could do this if he got a lift to the top of Mount Lofty each morning, he isn't though). Or Steve getting lifts to the top of Yad Moss and descending down to Middleton-In-Teesdale, lather, rinse and repeat for a free load of miles each day. Or Kajsa basing herself in Bedoin and using Mont Ventoux...

Rather than say "Don't take the piss with getting lifts to the tops of big hills over and over again" a rule of "You must start where the previous ride stopped" is formulated, which makes it a logistical nightmare for people who just wanted to move about the country without abusing hills. It also, handily for Guinness, stops people chasing the same tailwind each day.

"No drafting" might have come around from the fear that a rider will sit in the middle of a huge pack of faster riders and save ~40% of energy and nullify all head/cross-winds. It's very unlikely anyone would be able to arrange this day in day out, but it also penalises people who just want to sit behind someone's wheel for a bit when riding with company and taking it in turns to be at the front.

The UMCA have provision to add new rules (which won't apply retrospectively) so if they spot something which isn't in the spirit of the challenge (as they are looking at the rides every few days) they can look to add a rule to prevent it, or at least suggest that it stop. Guinness seem to set their rules out in advance, and if they're not monitoring everything day to day they won't know about something until the end.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on January 23, 2016, 10:47:15 am

I'm sure, if Kajsa feels aggrieved by this development, she can contact Guinness for an alleviation.

I guess it's the recumbent (which I've assumed given the Schlitters make/market them) aspect that would make it less equal in my view. If JS rides on a "conventional" bike then there'd be no argument.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mattc on January 23, 2016, 11:27:33 am
I think the unification of any records system or competition will inevitably disadvantage someone as compromises are made. But I find it hard to believe that any material difference will be made to Kajsa's effort, really.
Agreed.

Plus she will be a record-breaker no matter who comes after her, and her name will be in the history books.

I also wonder why she didnt go with the UCMA. Was this covered way back when I started this thread?!? Was the Fleming record a Guinness record (her Wiki page doesnt mention it)?
Title: Re: womens record
Post by: Greenbank on January 23, 2016, 11:56:58 am
I also wonder why she didnt go with the UCMA. Was this covered way back when I started this thread?!? Was the Fleming record a Guinness record (her Wiki page doesnt mention it)?

From earlier in the thread:-

...
Had a nice long chat with her, she is far from interested in doing long days in the saddle wanting this to be fun rather than a chore. Is looking forward to travelling to new places as part of the journey.
For a start the idea is pre published routes and encouraging people to come along.

It was interesting to hear the reasons behind the choice of Guinness as the body for authentication rather than the UMCA.  In a nutshell its down to the global recognition that Guinness brings to the process, along with the fact that they were nicer to deal with than the UMCA apparently, oh and free!
...
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mattc on January 23, 2016, 12:19:07 pm
Ta!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: crowriver on January 23, 2016, 12:21:27 pm
While the women's record may not be quite as physically demanding as the men's it is still an incredible challenge to keep riding day in, day out. That she has more time to do the video diary and so on means that following her attempt is very different from following the men's attempts, where news was more sporadic, even for Kurt with Alicia doing the honours.

I agree with others that there's a dimension to Kajsa's attempt which is very engaging for the armchair enthusiasts. She's a charmer with a nous for entertaining an audience. The humour in the daily video updates keeps them engaging and fun.

Go Kajsa!

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: velovoice on January 23, 2016, 03:32:41 pm

I agree with others that there's a dimension to Kajsa's attempt which is very engaging for the armchair enthusiasts. She's a charmer with a nous for entertaining an audience. The humour in the daily video updates keeps them engaging and fun.

Go Kajsa!
+1
And her interactions with her mother are delightful and endearing.
Go Tina! :)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on January 23, 2016, 08:21:32 pm
The vids are hugely entertaining.   What a lovely way to document the challenge.   Surely she will become a start after this.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Arry-R on January 23, 2016, 09:43:04 pm
Utterly failed that challenge!




Me too! !
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on January 24, 2016, 01:46:00 pm
I see she has passed through Mickleton, from whence I used to get my Christmas goose (the secretary's dad ran a farm there) and much excellent meat and game from the butchers, though that may well have closed now.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Hummers on January 24, 2016, 02:55:35 pm
I have to say, what with Kurt and Steve now finished, and all the nonsense around Bruce, it's all about Kajsa for now as far as I am concerned. :)

Indeed. I challenge anyone, who's not seen it already, not to be charmed by her video diary for the 19th January:

https://youtu.be/jlhT0TZUV84

One to watch  :thumbsup:

H
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Jurek on January 24, 2016, 03:12:37 pm
I have to say, what with Kurt and Steve now finished, and all the nonsense around Bruce, it's all about Kajsa for now as far as I am concerned. :)

Indeed. I challenge anyone, who's not seen it already, not to be charmed by her video diary for the 19th January:

https://youtu.be/jlhT0TZUV84

One to watch  :thumbsup:

H

Brilliant!  ;D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: alfapete on January 24, 2016, 03:21:14 pm
Spent an enjoyable 25km with Kajsa today - laid an ambush at Ilmington, had lunch with her in Mickleton and continued to Bidford. She was supported by 5 others, 3 women and 2 men (plus me) who all knew the rules re drafting - riding either well in front, alongside or behind her. She knew none of these fellow cyclists before today, we'd all just turned out as a result of fb and yacf! She's a thoroughly lovely person with a relaxed riding style which was a very comfortable pace even for me (I'm a good value, rather than full value randonneur).

I recommend others to give her some company to while away the hours - the Sunday rides seem to be published in advance allowing for hours of planning to choose a rendezvous (in my case this was hampered by her riding clockwise rather than anticlockwise round the route, and a flat tyre which arose after an hour of cycling to reach the rendezvous - I had visions of her cruising past while I fixed it).

On reflection, it all felt like a very middle class outing, but praps that says more about cycling than the record attempt.

I understand she's been approached by The One Show for a feature, and has a Scandinavian adventure planned too.

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on January 24, 2016, 04:32:26 pm
I have to say, what with Kurt and Steve now finished, and all the nonsense around Bruce, it's all about Kajsa for now as far as I am concerned. :)

Indeed. I challenge anyone, who's not seen it already, not to be charmed by her video diary for the 19th January:

https://youtu.be/jlhT0TZUV84

One to watch  :thumbsup:

H
Oh blimey she's a corker.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: crowriver on January 27, 2016, 09:26:31 am
A very active presence on Fb from Kajsa.

I note too that Steve is posting helpful comments and advice: that's nice to see!  :)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: fboab on January 27, 2016, 10:31:22 am
I'm going to ride with her this weekend.

 :thumbsup: I'm dead excited.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Auntie Helen on January 27, 2016, 11:46:27 am
I would have loved to ride with her so I envy you fboab! I am the wrong side of the North Sea for it, but I would have really liked a chance to ride along for a little way.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: fboab on January 27, 2016, 11:59:20 am
I think she's heading your way later in the year, AH...
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Auntie Helen on January 27, 2016, 01:37:25 pm
Oho! Sounds interesting...
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on January 27, 2016, 02:20:06 pm
I'm going to ride with her this weekend.

 :thumbsup: I'm dead excited.
Cool.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on January 27, 2016, 03:49:24 pm
Oho! Sounds interesting...

From her calendar...

147 26-May-2016 Thu  Nieby, Germany [c]   
148 27-May-2016 Fri Nieby, Germany [c] Langeland, Denmark 

Also

197 15-Jul-2016 Fri  Roth, Germany [c]   
198 16-Jul-2016 Sat Roth, Germany [c] Roth, Germany [c]   
199 17-Jul-2016 Sun Roth, Germany [c] Roth, Germany [c]   
200 18-Jul-2016 Mon Roth, Germany [c] 

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Clemo on January 27, 2016, 04:16:28 pm
I'm going to ride with her this weekend.

 :thumbsup: I'm dead excited.
Enjoy  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Auntie Helen on January 27, 2016, 04:32:33 pm
Oho! Sounds interesting...

From her calendar...

147 26-May-2016 Thu  Nieby, Germany [c]   
148 27-May-2016 Fri Nieby, Germany [c] Langeland, Denmark 

Also

197 15-Jul-2016 Fri  Roth, Germany [c]   
198 16-Jul-2016 Sat Roth, Germany [c] Roth, Germany [c]   
199 17-Jul-2016 Sun Roth, Germany [c] Roth, Germany [c]   
200 18-Jul-2016 Mon Roth, Germany [c]
Both miles and miles away from me in Germany, sadly... Roth appears to be in Bavaria and Nieby right up near Denmark. But who knows, if I have nothing to do for a few days I could maybe go up to  Nieby...
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on January 27, 2016, 07:02:02 pm
Kajsa is asking if anyone has a (no doubt flattish) 100 mile route centred on Worcester
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on January 28, 2016, 07:48:14 am
Hmm, last night she appeared to stop in Newark, and this morning she appears to have started from home - tracker showing 41kn in 9 minutes. Hope she doesn't fall foul of Guinness rules on that.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Laid Back Rich on January 28, 2016, 12:30:42 pm
surely now Guinness recognise Kurt's record that rule is effectively abolished?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Greenbank on January 28, 2016, 12:57:37 pm
Unlikely. Unless they officially relax the rules then Guinness are accepting rides that comply with their rules, or are validated by the UMCA, but that doesn't mean that someone riding under Guinness' rules can pick and choose from the two rulesets.

I still think this rule is not meant to be interpreted as literally as it is, if the rule even exists.

Has anyone seen (and can quote) the actual rules that Kajsa is riding to (not some other random Guinness rules found somewhere on the Internet) or are we all just speculating again?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: wajcgac on January 28, 2016, 07:19:35 pm
http://www.ayearinthesaddle.com/#!routes/cso5 (http://www.ayearinthesaddle.com/#!routes/cso5)

Kajsa comments about the no drafting rule here which is a Guinness requirement and not a HAMR one but doesn't explicitly state this.

In the interests of fair play Guinness should now relax their rules to be in line with those set by the UMCA as now the precedent has been set by Kurt's attempt being recognised by them.

I thought I'd seen somewhere on this board, talk of Jacquie Schlitter attempting the womens record later this year but can't find it now. If I wasn't imagining and she is going to attempt it, I'm pretty sure she'll be doing it on a recumbent and under HAMR rules (she's on the UMCA board of directors).

Here's a little bit about one of her events and will give an idea what to expect if she were to make an attempt.

http://www.ultraracenews.com/2013/11/07/jacquie-schlitter-the-florida-raam-challenge-400/ (http://www.ultraracenews.com/2013/11/07/jacquie-schlitter-the-florida-raam-challenge-400/)

Edited to say I found it - I'm not going potty after all  ;D

https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=91020.msg1978013;topicseen#msg1978013 (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=91020.msg1978013;topicseen#msg1978013)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Jack_P (Burlycross) on January 29, 2016, 12:56:50 pm
Looks like Kajsa has gone for safe small loops today this windy Friday
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Aidan on January 29, 2016, 08:28:32 pm
Tonights FB video is a pearler :thumbsup: ;D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: macnark on January 29, 2016, 08:51:02 pm
Tonights FB video is a pearler :thumbsup: ;D

Was very good indeed - nutters :-)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on January 29, 2016, 09:33:36 pm
Love!y people.   ;D  ;D  :thumbsup:

GO MUM!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Hummers on January 30, 2016, 08:18:16 am
I'm going to ride with her this weekend.

 :thumbsup: I'm dead excited.

Yay!  :thumbsup:

H
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on January 30, 2016, 06:55:07 pm
I love the videos!  We have to get Kajsa onto the forum :)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on January 30, 2016, 07:05:34 pm
Day 30 video has just appeared.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Jurek on January 30, 2016, 07:06:55 pm
Day 30 video has just appeared.  :thumbsup:
And been absorbed  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: nikki on January 30, 2016, 11:04:08 pm
Tonights FB video is a pearler :thumbsup: ;D

Was very good indeed - nutters :-)

Actual tears at that one! Brilliant!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on January 31, 2016, 12:25:18 pm
I'm going to ride with her this weekend.

 :thumbsup: I'm dead excited.

Yay!  :thumbsup:

H

And a pic up on Kajsa's Flickr feed of fboab at lunch  :)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Grandad on January 31, 2016, 07:26:39 pm
How do I find Kajsa's Flickr pictures?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Chris S on January 31, 2016, 07:29:14 pm
How do I find Kajsa's Flickr pictures?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/137493806@N05/
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Hummers on January 31, 2016, 07:42:38 pm
How do I find Kajsa's Flickr pictures?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/137493806@N05/

Chris - that picture with fboab; have you lost the beard?

H
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on January 31, 2016, 07:44:04 pm
*catches up with the last few videos*

*giggles*

Go Kajsa!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on January 31, 2016, 08:25:23 pm
To be called absolutely bonkers by someone going for the Year record is quite something.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: fboab on January 31, 2016, 09:32:19 pm
I had a great day out. Kajsa is a perfect hostess making everyone feel welcome. Pace was pretty steady as it should be for someone who is doing this again tomorrow, and the next day, and the next. She really appreciates the company and I recommend a day with her to the house.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: fboab on January 31, 2016, 09:36:31 pm
(http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae7/fboab/20160131_123427.jpg)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: fboab on January 31, 2016, 09:37:45 pm
I've always been on the wrong side of the tracks...
(http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae7/fboab/20160131_143108.jpg)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on January 31, 2016, 09:40:08 pm
It's not a proper Kajsa ride if you don't get a level crossing.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: MrDrem on January 31, 2016, 09:45:51 pm
I've been keeping https://goo.gl/lYClYG up to date as often as I have the Men's sheet now. Frankly I find Kajsa's riding far more interesting than Bruce's at the moment.

She's currently 565.8 miles up on where Billie was at this point, and 287.9 miles up against Billie's average daily mileage. She could currently stop riding for 3 days, and still be ahead of where she needs to be.

I must get the rolling averages and the daily distance required sheets added to this one.

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Hummers on January 31, 2016, 09:49:30 pm
I had a great day out. Kajsa is a perfect hostess making everyone feel welcome. Pace was pretty steady as it should be for someone who is doing this again tomorrow, and the next day, and the next. She really appreciates the company and I recommend a day with her to the house.

Cheers m'dear!  :thumbsup:

H
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: marcusjb on February 01, 2016, 07:46:21 am
Brilliant stuff fboab!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Jaded on February 01, 2016, 07:59:33 am
How do I find Kajsa's Flickr pictures?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/137493806@N05/

Chris - that picture with fboab; have you lost the beard?

H

This is a con, that cafe is somewhere tropical!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Chris S on February 01, 2016, 08:36:29 am
How do I find Kajsa's Flickr pictures?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/137493806@N05/

Chris - that picture with fboab; have you lost the beard?

H

He had a faster bike than me  ::-)

FTR, I didn't ride - I had boring stuff much more important things to do.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 01, 2016, 09:02:32 am
I had a great day out. Kajsa is a perfect hostess making everyone feel welcome. Pace was pretty steady as it should be for someone who is doing this again tomorrow, and the next day, and the next. She really appreciates the company and I recommend a day with her to the house.
This makes me feel like riding again, ty
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: crowriver on February 01, 2016, 12:14:55 pm
I've been keeping https://goo.gl/lYClYG up to date as often as I have the Men's sheet now. Frankly I find Kajsa's riding far more interesting than Bruce's at the moment.

She's currently 565.8 miles up on where Billie was at this point, and 287.9 miles up against Billie's average daily mileage. She could currently stop riding for 3 days, and still be ahead of where she needs to be.

I must get the rolling averages and the daily distance required sheets added to this one.

By the way, thanks for putting those spreadsheets together and sharing them here. Very useful information!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on February 02, 2016, 10:39:36 am
More "windy loops" today it seems. I wonder if "Ninja Jules" will make another appearance.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Shreds on February 02, 2016, 10:45:14 am
How do I find Kajsa's Flickr pictures?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/137493806@N05/

Chris - that picture with fboab; have you lost the beard?

H

This is a con, that cafe is somewhere tropical!

That's the first and probably the last time that Saundby near Gainsborough would be called tropical!😃
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: alfapete on February 03, 2016, 07:31:32 pm
Teethgrinder to ride with Kajsa on Saturday and Sunday - see facebook. That should attract a few more to ride with her, but I'm going to Wochma!

Steve Abraham:
I'll be setting off from home Friday 5th February to the Blackmore Camping and Caravaning site, Hanley Swan, near Great Malvern, Worcestershire. Then I'll be riding with Kajsa doing her Year in The Saddle on Saturday and Sunday. Kajsa would like company on her rides, but there are a few rules.
I'll be taking it very easy riding over to the campsite. It's about 80 miles from Milton Keynes and I expect to stop a few times along the way. Anyone is welcome to join me on the way. I'll switch on my live SPOT tracker so it's easier for anyone to join me on the way.
I hope to set off early in the morning but have no time planned. Suggestions welcome. I'll be camping in my tent, but if that's not for you, there are hotels nearby. A Wetherspoons hotel in Great Malvern. Tewkesbury is about 10 miles away and has a Wetherspoons hotel, Travelodge and Premier Inn. But I expect most will only want to do a day, or part of a day.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on February 03, 2016, 08:06:35 pm
No need for Facebook, https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=95713.0 refers.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on February 04, 2016, 12:55:29 pm
Near miss yesterday, according to the video.  And lots of impatient and incompetent motorists.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on February 05, 2016, 07:32:21 am
Well it would seem the "start from where you stopped"  rule isn't one. Today is the second time Kajsa has started from home after a lift back at the end of the day before.

Weather ok today, but looks foul for tomorrow  :-\
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: red marley on February 05, 2016, 07:53:13 am
Either because Guinness have relaxed their conditions given their ratification of Kurt's ride or, more likely, that rule never existed in the first place. The only reference I can find suggests the rule was start the next day at the same elevation as the end of the previous one.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on February 05, 2016, 08:47:17 am
"start the next day at the same elevation as the end of the previous one."

Yeah that makes sense, to stop freewheeling descents without the effort of climbing. Though I guess HAMR accepts that.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Hummers on February 05, 2016, 09:02:16 am
Either because Guinness have relaxed their conditions given their ratification of Kurt's ride or, more likely, that rule never existed in the first place. The only reference I can find suggests the rule was start the next day at the same elevation as the end of the previous one.

Didn't Tommy Godwin used to get the train (or a lift) to somewhere else for the start of the next day based on wind directtion?

H
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: red marley on February 05, 2016, 09:06:44 am
Short answer: No.

Long answer: Have a chat with CitizenFish (or read his book).
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: fboab on February 05, 2016, 09:14:34 am
Kajsa said she'd asked for clarification on the start-where-you'd-finished and was advised that what she planned was fine. It's kind of a don't take the piss ruling.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Laid Back Rich on February 05, 2016, 10:13:47 am
Either because Guinness have relaxed their conditions given their ratification of Kurt's ride or, more likely, that rule never existed in the first place. The only reference I can find suggests the rule was start the next day at the same elevation as the end of the previous one.

I registered with Guinness back in 2008 for my world cruise when Beaumont had just set a new record of 195 days which looked beatable, even by me. One of the rules for that challenge is "The journey must be continuous, with each leg of the journey beginning at the point at which the previous leg ended" which makes sense for the FASTEST CIRCUMNAVIGATION BY BICYCLE challenge, but not for the highest mileage challenge. Same elevation makes more sense for this. It would be good if Kajsa could publish the rules that Guinness have sent her to end this speculation!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: MacB on February 05, 2016, 01:27:50 pm
Kajsa said she'd asked for clarification on the start-where-you'd-finished and was advised that what she planned was fine. It's kind of a don't take the piss ruling.

Sad but this makes more sense than anything, Guiness have already shown a willingness to adjust as per ratification of Kurt.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on February 05, 2016, 01:35:06 pm
On the subject of regulations, in Video 35 last night she shows her evening routine, and displays her Witness Log.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: fboab on February 05, 2016, 02:21:29 pm
displays her Witness Log.

Claim to Fame: I signed it!

 :smug:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Greenbank on February 05, 2016, 02:27:54 pm
Kajsa said she'd asked for clarification on the start-where-you'd-finished and was advised that what she planned was fine. It's kind of a don't take the piss ruling.

Sad but this makes more sense than anything, Guiness have already shown a willingness to adjust as per ratification of Kurt.

Recognising attempts overseen by a different authority is not quite the same as adjusting their own position. Guinness' cachet as the place to go for records would have been slightly undermined if they hadn't recognised Kurt's achievement and acknowledged the UMCA.

I'm sure that if Kurt/Steve had done repeated van trips to the top of a mountain under the UMCA/HAMR rules the UMCA would have introduced a new rule (as they can do, but it can't act retrospectively) to prevent such tactics being used any more in that attempt or any future attempt.

The difference in styles of rules seems to stem from the fact that the UMCA actively monitors what the rider is doing (so that such things can be nipped in the bud quickly, maybe after a day or so of some dubious tactic being used) whilst Guinness set overly restrictive rules because they don't get to see anything until the rider has finished and has submitted their evidence. Two completely different approaches.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 05, 2016, 02:28:39 pm
displays her Witness Log.

Claim to Fame: I signed it!

 :smug:
You got named on a vid as well (and called bonkers, I believe)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on February 05, 2016, 02:41:34 pm
Maybe Kajsa's taking a leaf out of TG's book - looks like she's stopped at a Toby Carvery  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on February 05, 2016, 02:57:47 pm
displays her Witness Log.

Claim to Fame: I signed it!

 :smug:
You got named on a vid as well (and called bonkers, I believe)

Nearly right:

To be called absolutely bonkers by someone going for the Year record is quite something.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 05, 2016, 03:17:04 pm
Kajsa has definitely joined my list of people I'd like to drink a pint with.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: wajcgac on February 05, 2016, 04:12:02 pm
Kajsa said she'd asked for clarification on the start-where-you'd-finished and was advised that what she planned was fine. It's kind of a don't take the piss ruling.

Is Kajsa allowed to draft people yet or is that still against the rules? A comment Kajsa made on Strava was that she was writing a long email to Guinness regarding clarification of the rules after Kurts record had been ratified by them. I'd imagine that rule would be one of them she would like to disregard.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on February 05, 2016, 04:19:39 pm
She is still being strict about no drafting.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: red marley on February 05, 2016, 05:10:18 pm
And I think the no drafting rule may work to her relative advantage in that Guinness may well record a successful record as 'highest annual mileage without drafting' or some such. This would be the record regardless of gender. My guess is that future successful challengers to the women's record are more likely to come with more a more competitive racing history where drafting will be part of their strategy for gaining the miles. So Kajsa might end up holding the no-draft record for many years.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: MacB on February 05, 2016, 05:16:55 pm
Kajsa said she'd asked for clarification on the start-where-you'd-finished and was advised that what she planned was fine. It's kind of a don't take the piss ruling.

Sad but this makes more sense than anything, Guiness have already shown a willingness to adjust as per ratification of Kurt.

Recognising attempts overseen by a different authority is not quite the same as adjusting their own position.

????? yes it is, it is exactly the same, they may not say so in so many words....the obvious example...you can't say drafting isn't allowed then approve a record made with drafting and then claim your own position hasn't altered.

Unless as Jo says they subdivide records by style, ie drafting, recumbent, etc...but couple that with UMCA age categories and it all gets rather messy.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Shreds on February 05, 2016, 08:36:56 pm
Can't see a drafting category, but could see a ' bent' category becoming relevant.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Hummers on February 06, 2016, 05:58:38 am
Short answer: No.

Long answer: Have a chat with CitizenFish (or read his book).

Ah, OK.

Cheers.

H
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on February 06, 2016, 08:19:16 am
After a car transfer from Knowle to the campsite, she's off again, presumably with TG for company at least. No doubt he'll be passing on some of his vast knowledge of endurance cycling.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mattc on February 06, 2016, 08:32:09 am
After a car transfer from Knowle to the campsite, she's off again, presumably with TG for company at least. No doubt he'll be passing on some of his vast knowledge of endurance cycling.
... or (more likely) telling incredibly bad jokes :)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: marcusjb on February 06, 2016, 09:09:23 am
Poor woman! A day of baaaad sheep jokes?

Brilliant though and I hope it gives them both a lift and they have a great ride together.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Whip on February 06, 2016, 03:30:59 pm
Good for her and good for him! His presence is powerful motivation I'm sure.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on February 06, 2016, 03:38:32 pm
I wonder how inspiring a ride with the Guinness World Record Holder and the Whip would be?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on February 06, 2016, 03:50:06 pm
I wonder how inspiring a ride with the Guinness World Record Holder and the Whip would be?

I think I might be forced to wear an extra pair of cycling shorts.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Hummers on February 06, 2016, 06:15:57 pm
Poor woman! A day of baaaad sheep jokes?

Brilliant though and I hope it gives them both a lift and they have a great ride together.

I hope he brought the Jack Daniels... :smug:

H
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Phil W on February 06, 2016, 09:43:04 pm
Nice picture of her and Steve on Strava
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Clemo on February 07, 2016, 01:04:24 pm
Nice picture of her and Steve on Strava
They were a mile and a half from my house :o looks like lunch in the Bell, nope a visit to Maccy D's Bristol road
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on February 07, 2016, 04:11:11 pm
Kajsa seems to be repeating yesterday's route.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on February 07, 2016, 05:20:04 pm
Kajsa seems to be repeating yesterday's route.

Except they went further south before turning today.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Jack_P (Burlycross) on February 07, 2016, 07:28:46 pm
Glad to see she grabbed 100 miles, the first and only time this week.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on February 07, 2016, 07:36:33 pm
Blimey.  It's Nikki.  (Oh, and Steve).  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: toontra on February 07, 2016, 08:32:16 pm
Great vlog today.  Wonderful to see Steve looking relaxed and cheerful  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: hellymedic on February 07, 2016, 11:15:47 pm
Someone Facebooked a picture of Steve and Kajsa today.
Kaysa is looking good and Steve is looking happy and well.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on February 07, 2016, 11:28:10 pm
They were on great form in that video - and it was great to see Nikki! *waves*
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: MrDrem on February 08, 2016, 09:01:25 am
I've just brought Kajsa's data back up to date on https://goo.gl/lYClYG for anyone that's interested.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Grandad on February 09, 2016, 10:11:14 pm


Quote
They were on great form in that video

I've been looking at the videos in the Social Media section of her website but the one with Steve isn't there. What is the link to that one?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on February 09, 2016, 10:15:07 pm
Quote
They were on great form in that video

I've been looking at the videos in the Social Media section of her website but the one with Steve isn't there. What is the link to that one?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvcBrVeUx_0
https://youtu.be/NvcBrVeUx_0
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on February 10, 2016, 08:06:57 am


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They were on great form in that video

I've been looking at the videos in the Social Media section of her website but the one with Steve isn't there. What is the link to that one?

It seems quite a few of her vlogs don't make it to the social media section, as I found when I did a search on YouTube.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: macnark on February 10, 2016, 10:45:17 am
You can go to her YouTube channel, which lets you see all her videos as soon as she publishes them, regarless of whether she links to them via her web page or not.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC61A7J4xVJ-HN9APE3ysuBA

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Nuncio on February 10, 2016, 01:09:38 pm
They're very good, aren't they. Since I subscribed to her YouTube channel they've been required daily viewing.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Phil W on February 10, 2016, 02:27:13 pm
Noticed on her Strava that the bike is named Billie.  How nice is that :-D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Laid Back Rich on February 10, 2016, 05:09:55 pm
pancake day video is absolutely hilarious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzmNIOULhhU
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on February 10, 2016, 05:10:53 pm
pancake day video is absolutely hilarious https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzmNIOULhhU

Predictable Pizza-the-Hutt ending.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on February 10, 2016, 05:29:21 pm
Day 37 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5WEfeBxpqI).

Recognise anybody?   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Grandad on February 10, 2016, 05:44:03 pm
Thanks everyone.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on February 10, 2016, 07:13:23 pm
Well the Guinness chickens are coming home to roost, and Kajsa is not a happy bunny.  She queried Guinness' acceptance of Kurts record, and they've now said "yes, we have, and we have "edited" the rules to allow multiple bikes, recumbents and drafting".  Oh and they hope this "edit" to match UMCA rules won't have impacted her - like not being able to draft/take shelter during the recent storms.  ::-)

Oh, and her mum thinks it's "shite"  ;D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mattc on February 10, 2016, 08:13:38 pm
For those that haven't see it yet:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=LC_nY94pDLg

Oh dear :(

There is a danger that this record attempt will be diverted by the same rules debates as Bruce's.

( If anyone feels we whould split the thread, please go ahead.)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Chris S on February 10, 2016, 08:40:31 pm
We both agree with Kajsa's Mum  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 10, 2016, 08:47:12 pm
I'm not surprised, after what gwr did to mike hall
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 10, 2016, 08:54:42 pm
just watched the vid. she's in a pickle.

I can't offer help. My gut feeling is 'draft where possible.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on February 10, 2016, 08:55:00 pm
I also agree with Kajsa and her mum.   Guinness are a bunch of twunts.

Kurt is in no way to blame for the stupidity of Guinness and Guinness should have been in touch with Kajsa as soon as they changed their rules to let her know.
   
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on February 10, 2016, 08:59:28 pm
My gut feeling is carry on as she has been doing, but that's because I'm seeing this as a record of determination rather than athletic achievement.  The rational thing to do is for her to take every advantage she can get.

Actually the rational thing to do is worry about what rules Guinness will come up with next month.

What her mum said, basically.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: MacB on February 10, 2016, 09:00:14 pm
She should take any and every advantage possible because anyone following is certainly going to do so. As long as Guiness/UMCA ratify then people will only remember the total. It's still 100 miles plus every day for a year, the mental challenge remains.

Still being able to enjoy more sociable riding could do wonders for her mindset as the year progresses.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on February 10, 2016, 09:01:35 pm
My gut feeling is carry on as she has been doing, but that's because I'm seeing this as a record of determination rather than athletic achievement.  The rational thing to do is for her to take every advantage she can get.

Actually the rational thing to do is worry about what rules Guinness will come up with next month.

What her mum said, basically.

Yeah, I hadn't considered that.

She should take any and every advantage possible because anyone following is certainly going to do so. As long as Guiness/UMCA ratify then people will only remember the total. It's still 100 miles plus every day for a year, the mental challenge remains.

Still being able to enjoy more sociable riding could do wonders for her mindset as the year progresses.

If she'd been drafting she might have put in bigger mileages.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on February 10, 2016, 09:05:13 pm
My feeling is that if she wants to create a non drafted record, she's going to have to prove to Guinness that she never drafted at any time in the whole year.
How's she going to do that?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on February 10, 2016, 09:09:08 pm
I don't think people will remember only the total. These year-long challenges are such epic events (events isn't the best word, because it implies something short-lived to my mind) that the actual miles are really only part of it. Previous attempts have been brought to life in Citizen Fish's book so we know what happened. Menzies eventually overcoming Ossie Nicholson's record years later when in his 60s never set the world record because this was long after Tommy Godwin's time, but it is a magnificent testimony to bloody-mindedness.

Everyone will know for evermore what Steve did. It has been recorded for posterity on YACF, Steve's own website, on Idai's videos, in Zoe Williams' articles, in plenty of other places, but his achievement of over 60,000 miles merely (word chosen carefully) places him 4th on the all-time list. We all say it's about the miles, not the weather/hills/wind/whatever, but the epic nature of the challenge makes every year-long effort a monument to itself.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: macnark on February 10, 2016, 09:09:49 pm
As Kajsa started this with the intention of going without drafting, on one bike, I'd probably suggest she carries on like that.

She can do it, and she would earn immense respect for sticking with it.

She should vehemently insist that GWR rescind their amendmend to the womens' rules,  for attempts done under GWR rules only.
Keep the UMCA rules for those who want to set that record.

She should seek the support of all who care, who would be prepared to put their names to a petition, to respectfully request that Guinness do the only honourable thing and retain the rules which Kajsa planned hard for, and has worked hard to maintain.

You cannot reasonably change the rules for an event which has already begun, more so one which demands someone's invesment of a year of their life.

Be fair, Guinness, do the right thing, keep this a Guinness only record, based on your rules at the time the attempt was started, and do not change the rules to favour others or indeed to penalise others, once the year has passed. 

Consistency is key.

Good luck Kajsa - ignore this if needs be, just the ramblings of an old git :-)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on February 10, 2016, 09:12:24 pm
My feeling is that if she wants to create a non drafted record, she's going to have to prove to Guinness that she never drafted at any time in the whole year.
How's she going to do that?

Timelapse camera.  Not something you can do retrospectively.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: macnark on February 10, 2016, 09:16:17 pm
Yebbut - she STARTED the thing as a no drafting attempt. Whatever was agreed at the time should be sufficient. NO CHANGES TO RULES IN AN EVENT ALREADY UNDERWAY. Then no changes therafter if the name of the event is the same.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: red marley on February 10, 2016, 09:16:56 pm
My feeling is that if she wants to create a non drafted record, she's going to have to prove to Guinness that she never drafted at any time in the whole year.
How's she going to do that?

Presumably the same way she was required to do so in the last month.

The women's record will be beaten by someone else in the future. Quite possibly before the end of 2017. Almost certainly it will involve drafting, a greater range of bikes and other more professional-like support. Like Kim I am most inspired by the fact this is a demonstration of determination and in the spirit of Billie Dovey. I think there will be far fewer, if any, who will take a future record in that spirit, so she has something to gain by being the last to do so.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on February 10, 2016, 09:24:37 pm
My feeling is that if she wants to create a non drafted record, she's going to have to prove to Guinness that she never drafted at any time in the whole year.
How's she going to do that?

Presumably the same way she was required to do so in the last month.

The women's record will be beaten by someone else in the future. Quite possibly before the end of 2017. Almost certainly it will involve drafting, a greater range of bikes and other more professional-like support. Like Kim I am most inspired by the fact this is a demonstration of determination and in the spirit of Billie Dovey. I think there will be far fewer, if any, who will take a future record in that spirit, so she has something to gain by being the last to do so.

Hm. Good point.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on February 10, 2016, 09:27:56 pm
My feeling is that if she wants to create a non drafted record, she's going to have to prove to Guinness that she never drafted at any time in the whole year.
How's she going to do that?

Timelapse camera.  Not something you can do retrospectively.

Guinness could impose a camera with arse recognition technology.  If it detects an arse, it switches on and beeps Guinness.   :D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: nikki on February 10, 2016, 10:17:53 pm
Speaking of arses...

I think my take on it is that, if the option to use a recumbent could lessen damage to her body, then it would be prudent to take the amended rules. And if that situation is considered at all likely to come up in the next 11 months, then she may as well embrace the amended rules now and get the extra miles behind her.

Principles are good, but that would be where I would draw the line I think.


Tina has it in a nutshell though: being messed around and left in limbo isn't the way to treat people, regardless of whether they're in the middle of a record attempt or not.  >:(

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on February 10, 2016, 10:27:17 pm
Ostensibly yes, but the middle of a record attempt is no time to go recumbent shopping.  https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=95851.0 refers
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: teethgrinder on February 10, 2016, 10:46:52 pm
One of the rules of the UMCA is that the rules may be subject to change during an attempt, as they have been with Bruce not that long ago.

There are still differences between UMCA and Guinness. Guinness do not require power or heart rate data, nor for rides to be uploaded within 24 hours of completion.
I don't know if Guinness insist on helmets, as the UMCA do.
I also never noticed reflective tape all over Kajsa's bike, which is a UMCA requirement.

Guinness insist on witnesses.

UMCA have rules about the use of drugs. I don't know if Guinness do. I expect so but don't know if they are any different. Perhaps Kajsa can have a pint mid ride?
I also doubt that Guinness require crew members to sign a form, though I don't actually know.

I did touch upon the drafting issue with Kajsa last weekend. I sheltered her from a nasty crosswind at one point (more for safety), which was not a breach of the rules because it was acceptable for anyone to ride alongside. I then explained how she could possibly draft people in crosswinds and possibly not be breaking the rules, which are now irrelevant.

Guinness do seem to be a bit ignorant about cycling and I think they'd do well to only accept UMCA attempts, at least from now on. Kajsa began planning her attempt in 2014, before the UMCA had even considered taking it on and I think that Kajsa probably had most of her work done before I started it up with the UMCA.

All in all, a bit of a mess!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: LMT on February 10, 2016, 11:05:06 pm
That sucks.

Accept it and move on. I doubt Guinness would rescind their agreement with the UMCA, especially as this could have an impact on the Whip making a record attempt.

Buy a recumbent, love your arse, love your neck, love your arms, love your wrists, love cycling. Will aid in the recovery and she'll be able to do more miles.

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: zigzag on February 10, 2016, 11:11:40 pm
i've already said my opinion (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=93962.msg1980042#msg1980042) about the validating "authorities" in Bruce's thread. guinness especially is showing a remarkable lack of respect to Kajsa's effort - her whole preparation and strategy could have been very different under different rules..
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on February 11, 2016, 07:35:41 am
In some ways Kajsa (and those who follow, if they choose Guinness) would now appear to the best of both worlds - a Guinness ratification if she achieves her goal, the ability to use multiple bikes and drafting, but without some of the more onerous UMCA requirements, so notwithstanding her personal feelings, from a record attempt POV things have improved.  Having said that it's possible that there will be a closing of the differences over time - for instance Guinness adding HR or power data as a requirement.

Go Kajsa - and enjoy your day's cycling.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: teethgrinder on February 11, 2016, 12:33:30 pm
I wouldn't be surprised if Guinness only accepted claims via the UMCA in the not too distant future. Perhaps they may keep their rule about witnesses, or perhaps the UMCA may adopt that rule too?
The original Guinness rules seem to be flawed from what I know of them, possibly even being life threateningly dangerous regarding not being allowed to use another frame unless the one you are using gets damaged. (I'm thinking that this rule could mean riders using badly fatigued forks to the point of destruction!)
The UMCA originally wanted HAMR to be non drafting and without motor transfers, but we went through all of the impracticalities of this when we set up the rules. What is Kajsa supposed to do if she rides through Cambridge? Staying 3 car lengths behind any other cyclist is going to be a hard task!
I'm guessing that Guinness are forced to accept Kurts' record because it has become too well known but now they are having to re-hash the rules for women to keep it in line with the men's record. The rules for the men's record just make more sense. (but I suppose I would say that because I helped set them up)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Giropaul on February 11, 2016, 02:02:26 pm
Maybe I'm being too simplistic, and I hope I don't upset anyone, but in the end these are BICYCLE records.
I can get my head around drafting/non drafting etc.
BUT ... why can't the people overseeing (?) all of this get that a recumbent is not a bicycle as usually (or UCI etc as the world body) defined.
Nothing against recumbents, but they do offer a significant advantage, especially when routes are carefully planned. I can't turn up at my local time trial and compete on a recumbent (unless there is a specific class), and I can't road race on one, but it appears that I can attempt some records on one, as things now stand.
There is an end to end record for bicycles, and another one for recumbents. That makes sense, at least to me.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on February 11, 2016, 02:07:30 pm
Maybe I'm being too simplistic, and I hope I don't upset anyone, but in the end these are BICYCLE records.

No they're not, they're cycling records.  No restriction to two wheels.  No restriction on geometry.  Some rules about fairings, and it seems until yesterday, Guinness had rules about commercial availability and multiple machines.

A non-specific specific class.

If you want to go out and set a specific annual mileage record for UCI-compliant time trial bikes, or partially faired recumbent tricycles, or whatever, go ahead.

If you want to run a geometry-agnostic time trial, I'm sure the BHPC will help you out.



(PS. Recumbent bicycles are bicycles.)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on February 11, 2016, 02:31:00 pm
I said a while ago that I expected an attempt using purely recumbents would be most likely to be successful.  Previously, I would have said there should be separate records for uprights and bents, but Kurt used both, which is a tactic I hadn't anticipated (though it is very sensible), so they can't be disentangled now.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on February 11, 2016, 02:40:59 pm
Separate classes make sense, but as with the UMCA's age category, it soon becomes a case of everyone-gets-their-own-record.

Broader categories do encourage innovation, as Kurt has demonstrated.


I'm not sure the aerodynamic advantages of an unfaired recumbent are as dramatic as people tend to assume, at the power levels Kajsa appears to be riding at.  Not to disregard the other benefits, of course.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on February 11, 2016, 02:48:04 pm
I think the benefits would be more apparent at the men's record pace.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: TigaSefi on February 11, 2016, 05:00:10 pm
So..... Tommy's record was perfectly ok to be ratified with some postcards from postoffice etc but in an age where we have GPS and stuff, it harder to ratify it? Am I missing something?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 11, 2016, 05:28:50 pm
So..... Tommy's record was perfectly ok to be ratified with some postcards from postoffice etc but in an age where we have GPS and stuff, it harder to ratify it? Am I missing something?
gps files can be faked
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: SoreTween on February 11, 2016, 05:47:57 pm
So..... Tommy's record was perfectly ok to be ratified with some postcards from postoffice etc but in an age where we have GPS and stuff, it harder to ratify it? Am I missing something?
Tommy's record was ratified using appropriate technology of the day reinforced by random witness verification.
Whereas:
The UMCA rules use appropriate technology of the day reinforced by random witness verification.
The Guinness rules are subtly different in that they use a smaller quantity of appropriate technology of the day reinforced by the same random witness verification scheme used by Tommy.

I hope that's cleared things up.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Whip on February 11, 2016, 06:08:29 pm
From our camp, this is a good thing! Kajsa has options now and it should be easier for her. She can keep going as planned or make adjustments as needed. The Guinness change has nothing to do with publicity or public pressure. This record is only of any interest to a small niche of cyclists. The UMCA is an ultra-cycling organization made up of ultra-cyclists who know cycling. Guinness is not. It is pretty clear why Guinness is adapting to the UMCA rules and guidelines... from what we know.

Kajsa is doing fantastic and I have faith that she will do what is right for her. Now, leaping across the pond, we didn't have the spirit of someone to follow, we had a number. For us: It's About The Miles (sounds like a good name for a book, huh?). This competition is a revival for a new generation and everything about it is evolving. I think it's a very exciting time to be in and following ultra-cycling!

These are cliché, yet they helped everyday:
Things almost always never go wrong.
Remember the definition of "insanity."
Be flexible like Gumby.
Change is inevitable.
This will pass.
Sleep on it.
Listen

Kajsa, you're on target! You go girl!!!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: TimC on February 11, 2016, 06:50:27 pm
I can see why she's a bit pissed off, but it'll pass. She can decide in slow time whether she'll change her approach totally, slightly, or not at all. I suspect that a bit of contemplation will result in little change - and that even making full use of the changes probably wouldn't have a huge effect on a day-to-day basis. She'll be fine - she comes across as a very resilient lady.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 11, 2016, 07:48:00 pm
From our camp, this is a good thing! Kajsa has options now and it should be easier for her. She can keep going as planned or make adjustments as needed. The Guinness change has nothing to do with publicity or public pressure. This record is only of any interest to a small niche of cyclists. The UMCA is an ultra-cycling organization made up of ultra-cyclists who know cycling. Guinness is not. It is pretty clear why Guinness is adapting to the UMCA rules and guidelines... from what we know.

Kajsa is doing fantastic and I have faith that she will do what is right for her. Now, leaping across the pond, we didn't have the spirit of someone to follow, we had a number. For us: It's About The Miles (sounds like a good name for a book, huh?). This competition is a revival for a new generation and everything about it is evolving. I think it's a very exciting time to be in and following ultra-cycling!

These are cliché, yet they helped everyday:
Things almost always never go wrong.
Remember the definition of "insanity."
Be flexible like Gumby.
Change is inevitable.
This will pass.
Sleep on it.
Listen

Kajsa, you're on target! You go girl!!!
great message. you should send it directly to kajsa
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on February 11, 2016, 09:57:19 pm
+1
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on February 12, 2016, 12:02:44 am
Has Kajsa recorded a video today*?

*Or, more correctly, yesterday, since midnight just slipped past without me noticing.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on February 12, 2016, 12:03:28 am
Has Kajsa recorded a video today?

Possibly, but nothing's been uploaded yet.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Mr Larrington on February 12, 2016, 01:28:29 am
Be flexible like Gumby.

???

(https://withjustahintoflearning.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/monty-python-s-flying-circus-1969-9-g.jpg)

Some Gumbies, yesterday
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: macnark on February 12, 2016, 09:52:41 pm
So Kajsa has chosen not to draft and to continue as she started - good on you Kajsa, I applaud your decision. :-)

https://youtu.be/B4uSKlfjIVM
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Shreds on February 12, 2016, 09:54:26 pm
+1  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Marmitegeoff on February 13, 2016, 06:53:08 am
So Kajsa has chosen not to draft and to continue as she started - good on you Kajsa, I applaud your decision. :-)

https://youtu.be/B4uSKlfjIVM

+1   

go Kajsa    :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on February 13, 2016, 08:48:30 am
I support whatever she chooses to do.

I think that having a second bike lined up would be prudent, but it sounds like Leisure Lakes are being pretty responsive,  so that aspect might be manageable.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mds101 on February 14, 2016, 08:32:24 am
I rode with Kajsa again on Friday and we had quite a chat about this. Its been a real dilemma that I don't think she needed.

I'm really pleased to see that she's sticking with her original challange - I really admired her reasons for taking this on from the start. If she then needs in the future to follow the broader rules she'll have answered her own questions.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: red marley on February 14, 2016, 10:15:43 am
It was interesting to contrast the various responses on Facebook and Strava to her original question about whether to draft. Almost all the Strava recommendations were to draft - it's all about the miles - and the Facebook ones were to embrace the spirit of her and Billie's original challenge by not drafting. Not surprising perhaps, but a useful reminder of the self-selection of these groups, no single one of which can claim to be representative of cyclists as a whole.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: TimC on February 14, 2016, 11:59:14 am
I rode with Kajsa again on Friday and we had quite a chat about this. Its been a real dilemma that I don't think she needed.

I'm really pleased to see that she's sticking with her original challange - I really admired her reasons for taking this on from the start. If she then needs in the future to follow the broader rules she'll have answered her own questions.

I did think this was the conclusion she'd come to, as I said upthread. Although it's cost her some contemplation and worry, I'm sure she'll come to view it as a bit of a fuss about not very much in time. It will be on the record that she opted to ride the year 'in the spirit of Billie', and she'll get credit for that no matter who comes along in future to break the record exploiting the UMCA rules.

As Citizenfish said in his book (apologies for the poor paraphrasing), these records belong to all of those who set them in the context of their own times and limitations. The fact that someone rides a greater distance in no way diminishes the efforts of those whose distances they've exceeded. Each has their place in history, as Kajsa will.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on February 14, 2016, 01:26:40 pm
Absolutely spot on, Tim. When it comes to heroic effort, I don't think that any of the other record-holders or near misses can have done any more than our own Steve Abraham.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: TimC on February 14, 2016, 01:52:38 pm
Steve's story is in its own category of badass!! I'm not sure that's how Kajsa would like to be seen, but she is carving her own niche.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: lahoski on February 14, 2016, 03:27:46 pm
Steve's story is in its own category of badass!! I'm not sure that's how Kajsa would like to be seen, but she is carving her own niche.
I find it interesting that I am equally inspired by Steve, Kurt and Kajsa. Each of them have different qualities that we can all learn from and admire. Even Bruce (with his pigheadedness) and Miles have all shown aspects of their approaches we can all draw inspiration from, including weaknesses. They've exposed themselves and their vulnerabilities in ways most of us can only imagine.

I am impressed by the honesty shown by Kajsa and I am heartened by her decision. I don't think it is possible to make a "wrong" choice in this context but there is something that sits comfortably in that which she has made.

Chapeau.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mds101 on February 14, 2016, 04:30:38 pm
They are all inspiring aren't they. It's a privilege (for me anyway) to have shared the road with Steve (not often but) abd with Kajsa.

for me there is a lot in there about following a dream and the sacrifices they've been prepared to make for it. But also I think with Steve and Kajsa there has been a lot of working out exactly what that dream is, how to define it and know when and if it's been accomplished.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mattc on February 14, 2016, 04:58:43 pm
It was interesting to contrast the various responses on Facebook and Strava to her original question about whether to draft. Almost all the Strava recommendations were to draft - it's all about the miles - and the Facebook ones were to embrace the spirit of her and Billie's original challenge by not drafting. Not surprising perhaps, but a useful reminder of the self-selection of these groups, no single one of which can claim to be representative of cyclists as a whole.
ooh that's an intresting analysis! 

A further data-pointlet; about 90% of opinions expressed on the "YACF - Steve" thread were of the
"its all about the miles" flavour.

(IIRC jo's views were in the 10%, and I'd probably put myself in there too).
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: crowriver on February 14, 2016, 05:37:11 pm
Steve's story is in its own category of badass!! I'm not sure that's how Kajsa would like to be seen, but she is carving her own niche.
I find it interesting that I am equally inspired by Steve, Kurt and Kajsa. Each of them have different qualities that we can all learn from and admire. Even Bruce (with his pigheadedness) and Miles have all shown aspects of their approaches we can all draw inspiration from, including weaknesses. They've exposed themselves and their vulnerabilities in ways most of us can only imagine.

I am impressed by the honesty shown by Kajsa and I am heartened by her decision. I don't think it is possible to make a "wrong" choice in this context but there is something that sits comfortably in that which she has made.

Chapeau.

Well put.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: MacB on February 14, 2016, 05:44:28 pm
It was interesting to contrast the various responses on Facebook and Strava to her original question about whether to draft. Almost all the Strava recommendations were to draft - it's all about the miles - and the Facebook ones were to embrace the spirit of her and Billie's original challenge by not drafting. Not surprising perhaps, but a useful reminder of the self-selection of these groups, no single one of which can claim to be representative of cyclists as a whole.
ooh that's an intresting analysis! 

A further data-pointlet; about 90% of opinions expressed on the "YACF - Steve" thread were of the
"its all about the miles" flavour.

(IIRC jo's views were in the 10%, and I'd probably put myself in there too).

If we agree that, as a fan, you are the purest of the pure will you get over yourself and not besmirch this thread by starting all that nonsense again?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mattc on February 14, 2016, 06:29:26 pm
I have NFC what you are saying. Suggest you explain a bit more cogently, or drop it.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: MacB on February 14, 2016, 08:50:07 pm
I have NFC what you are saying. Suggest you explain a bit more cogently, or drop it.

It's simple, you attacked left, right and centre on the 'Steve' thread and always seemed to set yourself up as the embattled 'true believer'. You've found a comment on this thread that you can utilise to belabour the same sort of point. It's tedious and we get it, repetition isn't helpful and, yes, I'm regretting not ignoring your post as usual.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on February 14, 2016, 09:58:52 pm
Can someone remind me, please: where can I find Kajsa's tracker?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on February 14, 2016, 10:01:16 pm
It'll probably be attached to her bike.

Oh, I see what you mean.    :D 
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on February 14, 2016, 10:02:08 pm
Can someone remind me, please: where can I find Kajsa's tracker?

https://www.followmychallenge.com/live/ayearinthesaddle/
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mattc on February 14, 2016, 10:02:33 pm
It was interesting to contrast the various responses on Facebook and Strava to her original question about whether to draft. Almost all the Strava recommendations were to draft - it's all about the miles - and the Facebook ones were to embrace the spirit of her and Billie's original challenge by not drafting. Not surprising perhaps, but a useful reminder of the self-selection of these groups, no single one of which can claim to be representative of cyclists as a whole.
ooh that's an intresting analysis! 

A further data-pointlet; about 90% of opinions expressed on the "YACF - Steve" thread were of the
"its all about the miles" flavour.

(IIRC jo's views were in the 10%, and I'd probably put myself in there too).

If we agree that, as a fan, you are the purest of the pure will you get over yourself and not besmirch this thread by starting all that nonsense again?
<rewinding a bit ... >

OK; so what's your view on jo's post? 
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: toontra on February 14, 2016, 10:08:51 pm
I have NFC what you are saying. Suggest you explain a bit more cogently, or drop it.

It's simple, you attacked left, right and centre on the 'Steve' thread and always seemed to set yourself up as the embattled 'true believer'. You've found a comment on this thread that you can utilise to belabour the same sort of point. It's tedious and we get it, repetition isn't helpful and, yes, I'm regretting not ignoring your post as usual.

I ignored him a long time ago.  I found his posts to be a particularly offensive mix of arrogance and shit-stirring for the sake of it.  He was at the root of all the nonsense on Steve's thread and I truly hope he doesn't start the same thing here, and I'll never know as long as people don't start quoting him. ;)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: C-3PO on February 14, 2016, 10:52:09 pm
Behave, all of you, or we'll see how well you can post once Chewbacca has ripped your arms off.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Jurek on February 14, 2016, 10:53:46 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on February 14, 2016, 11:54:51 pm
I suggest a new strategy, R2...
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: TimC on February 15, 2016, 01:18:42 am
Behave, all of you, or we'll see how well you can post once Chewbacca has ripped your arms off.

Can we sell tickets?! ;D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Hummers on February 15, 2016, 12:21:12 pm
I particularly like the video updates and also like the openness of the rides in terms of allowing other people to join in.

The feeling of underlying exhaustion must be a worry though and I don't know if there is a fix for that other than taking time off. :-\

H

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Chris S on February 15, 2016, 12:33:49 pm
I particularly like the video updates and also like the openness of the rides in terms of allowing other people to join in.

The feeling of underlying exhaustion must be a worry though and I don't know if there is a fix for that other than taking time off. :-\

H

She mentioned making an appointment to see a Physio today.

A 10 minute sit in a bath of cold water after every ride would probably help - but it's not exactly pleasant. Someone else already suggested compression leggings.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mds101 on February 16, 2016, 07:23:28 am
I particularly like the video updates and also like the openness of the rides in terms of allowing other people to join in.

The feeling of underlying exhaustion must be a worry though and I don't know if there is a fix for that other than taking time off. :-\

H

I think she'll get through it, I think it may be related to recent wind and cold weather. She is quite small and has no weight to her so perhaps more impacted upon by the weather than others might be.

She has lowered her mileage and effort which must be the right way to go and she has time on her side for a break if she wanted one.....She is on track and is likely to increase miles in warmer weather.

Swedish chef....brilliant ;D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Hummers on February 16, 2016, 07:36:39 am
The longest I have ridden (on an Audax) was eight days and what was surprising was how cumulatively exhausted I was. You only really notice that when you are riding with someone else.

It took me at least a month to get over it  :facepalm: Then again, I am about twice Kajsa's age.

H
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: fboab on February 16, 2016, 08:47:50 am
She is quite small and has no weight to her so perhaps more impacted upon by the weather than others might be.

We talked about this a bit- and it's very true, she feels the cold (much piss-taking of me and my no-overshoes ways) and because she's not pushing hard it gets to her more than it perhaps otherwise would. She also sometimes struggles to eat enough, she said (I'm so jealous!)

I was dressed for Kajsa-pace when I rode with her, but once I split off and started riding at catch-a-train pace I was way too hot!

I'm looking forward to riding with her again.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on February 16, 2016, 09:31:42 am
My goal for thid year is to get cycling fit again and do a day's ride with Kajsa.

Properly jelly of you aiming for two rides!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: orraloon on February 16, 2016, 09:43:28 am
I think that having a second bike lined up would be prudent, but it sounds like Leisure Lakes are being pretty responsive,  so that aspect might be manageable.

And then there was one;  what are we internet watchers to do?

2nd bike more than prudent, essential mayhap.  Kaysa scheduled to be in Sweden and Germany mid year.  Do Leisure Lakes have branches in handy locations in those countries?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on February 16, 2016, 10:27:51 am
  Do Leisure Lakes have branches in handy locations in those countries?

Nope, 8 stores in the UK only AFAICS.

http://www.leisurelakesbikes.com/location
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on February 16, 2016, 11:52:55 am
I'm pretty sure that they do have bike shops in both Sweden and Germany.   
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on February 16, 2016, 11:02:57 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4hEWs4lTs4

Utterly bonkers! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on February 17, 2016, 09:16:52 pm
Magnificently so!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on February 17, 2016, 09:23:26 pm
Bumble not really very informative tonight, though.   ::-)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on February 17, 2016, 09:32:59 pm
Hardly surprising.  If you want a proper rant about crap weather, you need to consult a cat.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mds101 on February 17, 2016, 09:39:23 pm
She is quite small and has no weight to her so perhaps more impacted upon by the weather than others might be.

We talked about this a bit- and it's very true, she feels the cold (much piss-taking of me and my no-overshoes ways) and because she's not pushing hard it gets to her more than it perhaps otherwise would. She also sometimes struggles to eat enough, she said (I'm so jealous!)

I was dressed for Kajsa-pace when I rode with her, but once I split off and started riding at catch-a-train pace I was way too hot!

I'm looking forward to riding with her again.

When you do that, let me know and I'll come with.....I can put you up as well (or put up with you ;))
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: cygnet on February 18, 2016, 09:03:35 am
Looking down her calendar I have deduced she is riding the Vatternrunden Vätternrundan; Not much chance of spotting her during the ride itself perhaps, but before/after maybe.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: marcusjb on February 18, 2016, 09:21:03 am
Looking down her calendar I have deduced she is riding the Vatternrunden; Not much chance of spotting her during the ride itself perhaps, but before/after maybe.

Brilliant!  That'll be the furthest she's ever ridden in a day I guess?  Superb stuff.

By the way, refer to https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=95745.msg1990188#msg1990188 for the correct grammar usage.   ;D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: cygnet on February 18, 2016, 09:57:44 am
I sit corrected.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: orraloon on February 19, 2016, 08:41:20 pm
Confused of My Armchair here.

Watched Kaysa's day 50 video and read Alicia's post.

What are the Guinness rules?  Does Kurt hold a Guinness record?  Why should Guinness rules be different for male and female riders, if they are?

Or should I just ignore all that and sit back to admire bravery and dedication under whichever rulebase?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mcshroom on February 19, 2016, 09:08:11 pm
The rules are a complete pigs ear. Sit back and enjoy the riding :)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: red marley on February 19, 2016, 11:24:45 pm
What are the Guinness rules?  Does Kurt hold a Guinness record?  Why should Guinness rules be different for male and female riders, if they are?

The rules for monitoring the record by Guinness and UMCA are different. Broadly: UMCA  - live tracking and heart rate/power, drafting permitted, many bikes allowed; Guinness - single bike, signed witness logs, no drafting (until recently). The rules aren't explicitly different for women and men, it's just that the two recent serious attempts at distance records via UMCA have been men and the two serious Guinness attempts have been women. Things got messier when Guinness retrospectively recognised Kurt's record that had been monitored by UMCA and realised they might have to make their own rules a little closer to UMCAs for future attempts.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on February 20, 2016, 09:05:55 am
Though from Kajsa vlog Guinness have rescinded the "drafting allowed" change - but presumably only for the women's attempt, unless they withdraw Kurts...
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on February 20, 2016, 09:28:10 am
It would be a true bag of shite if Guinness backtracked on Kurt.   They would never have any credibility again with serious cyclists and, if the debacle was more widely publicised, with records in general.

It seems to me that Guinness make up rules as they go along.

It was a wise decision by Kajsa to continue as she had been doing and she could rightly boil Guinness in oil should they mess around with the criteria again.   Kurt's record will stand wholly and solely alone under that unique set of "Guinness" rules.

I love Kajsa's videos.   The woman is a true star.   I hope that she will be vlogging in the future, perhaps reviewing triathlon and cycling clothing and kit.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on February 20, 2016, 11:03:58 am
Kajsa is a hero.
The rules are a complete pigs ear. Sit back and enjoy the riding :)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: nextSibling on February 20, 2016, 12:33:10 pm
It would be a true bag of shite if Guinness backtracked on Kurt.   They would never have any credibility again with serious cyclists

Given the mess they've made with recent one year records, I'm not sure they have now. Whip is wise to steer clear of them.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: wajcgac on February 20, 2016, 02:16:08 pm
Though from Kajsa vlog Guinness have rescinded the "drafting allowed" change - but presumably only for the women's attempt, unless they withdraw Kurts...

I don't see why they should withdraw Kurts record as there is nothing to suggest that Tommy didn't draft someone at some point so the two are comparable in that regard.

My initial thoughts were that Guinness should have a drafting and non drafting record for both male and female participants so they could carry on recognising attempts made under UMCA rules which at the moment should fall automatically in to the drafting category. Otherwise we are left with the current situation where the men's Guinness Year Record is a drafting one and the ladies Guinness Year Record is a non-drafting one.

I don't know how Billie Fleming went about her record but Kajsa is at the moment complying to Guinness' original non drafting rules. At the end of Kajsa's year attempt, would Kajsa have the non-drafting record and Billie remain with a drafting record? I'm not sure Kajsa would want that.

I guess the answer to this would be that if a non-drafting attempt exceeded the drafting record, then the two records should merge under the one record holder - until they were split again by a successful drafting attempt that exceeded the non-drafting record?





Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on February 20, 2016, 04:10:18 pm
I don't think that Guinness know enough about cycling to be able to establish different records for different criteria.

Where sport is already categorised and records kept for different activities/events/gender/distances, organised by world specialist bodies, they just report the records. Where it's something like cycling, in which for this sort of thing there is no established world body (UMCA can hardly be described as "established" as they had had no previous interest in the Year Record, until Steve asked them in 2014) they simply don't have a clue.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on February 20, 2016, 04:24:40 pm
Given that Guinness charge a lot of money to ratify a record, don't you think that they need to be able to define that record before people start trying to set it?   
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on February 20, 2016, 04:38:31 pm
I thought Kajsa said in her vlog re the rules (the earlier one) that Guinness was free?

Anyway, a return to form (helped perhaps by the Westerly) today, her best day for a while  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Phil W on February 20, 2016, 05:05:04 pm
Yes it's free with Guinness
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on February 20, 2016, 05:05:51 pm
Ah, I see.  I was under the impression that you had to pay to get a Guinness record. 

Indeed.  My google fu has just confirmed that it is free.   Oh well.   My apologies Guinness. 
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on February 21, 2016, 10:59:18 am
Kajsa is out on the Yaxley Riders reliability run today, with TG for company. 
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Jack_P (Burlycross) on February 21, 2016, 12:59:29 pm
Look forward to the video, the start to that ride was brutal this morning, full on sidewind that i struggled to fight, into a full headwind on a very exposed section over the Giddings. At least she should enjoy Oundle and the Welland valley with the viaduct looking splendid in the sun, and get blown back.
Tough day though.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on February 21, 2016, 01:36:37 pm
She didn't sound impressed by Rutlish hills yesterday.  But fit in a bit of off-road!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Jack_P (Burlycross) on February 21, 2016, 01:54:01 pm
Looking at the tracker, looks like she didn't venture to far West, a 90k loop just dipping into East Northants, no real hills.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: MrDrem on February 25, 2016, 10:58:26 pm
For those that are interested, I've just updated https://goo.gl/lYClYG and brought it up to date.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Hummers on February 26, 2016, 07:32:30 pm
Still following it and very much enjoying her year.

I think it is something of a vicarious enjoyment following someone who is doing something that I can't.

H
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: crowriver on February 27, 2016, 02:28:57 pm
For those that are interested, I've just updated https://goo.gl/lYClYG and brought it up to date.

Thanks for that. Useful to see the data update.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on February 27, 2016, 04:06:30 pm
Well despite her leg issues the last three days have been good ones.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: DaveE128 on March 04, 2016, 11:47:18 am
Looks like Kajsa may have returned home after only 41km today. Hope all is well.  ???

edit: oh, up on Strava now - off to the docs for saddle sore issues.  :( I know how troublesome that can be. Hope she can shake that off soon.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on March 04, 2016, 02:50:22 pm
It's been a bit of an issue for her for quite a while I believe. I'm sure she has all our sympathies.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on March 04, 2016, 08:59:40 pm
Yet another Kajsa video leaves me in tears...

...of laughter! ;D

We have to get her involved with yacf when she's not quite so busy.  She'd fit right in!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Hummers on March 06, 2016, 08:00:39 am
Not saddle sores - a boil. Loads of fun when they finally burst.  :thumbsup:

H
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on March 06, 2016, 10:40:28 am
Will it feature on her daily video, I wonder?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Clemo on March 06, 2016, 03:01:36 pm
Not saddle sores - a boil. Loads of fun when they finally burst.  :thumbsup:

H
I had that same problem a number of years ago, its not nice.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on March 07, 2016, 10:31:45 am
Kajsa is heading towards York on Tues!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Deano on March 08, 2016, 10:59:44 pm
Aye, she's close to Boroughbridge tonight. Shame I'm at work (and chasing off a cold, no chance I'd go and infect her)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Nuncio on March 09, 2016, 12:33:11 pm
She's consistently banging in the hundred milers now, presumably because of more daylight hours. Bravo to her for the longest ride of the year so far (I think) yesterday, at 195km.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on March 09, 2016, 12:36:21 pm
Horribly wet out here today - not best weather for long miles (or saddle sores).
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on March 10, 2016, 09:44:15 am
Horribly wet out here today - not best weather for long miles (or saddle sores).

Hence the photo of Marigolds I suspect!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: MrDrem on March 11, 2016, 09:56:59 pm
I've finally brought https://goo.gl/lYClYG back up to date.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on March 12, 2016, 09:20:22 pm
Past 10,000km, and a familiar face (Teethgrinder) on today's vid. :)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: marzipan on March 16, 2016, 07:44:05 pm
I'm loving following the Kajsa and her mum videos they've been posting up. They are quite a double act.
She has a great positive mental attitude, and I really hope she does this.

She seems like an ordinary woman, setting her sights to an extraordinary dream.

For a woman where cycling is not her way of life, unlike some others on here, I really hope that she succeeds, and I'll be rooting for her every step of the way.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on March 17, 2016, 07:37:31 am
Apparently Mr Abraham is going to be renting a tandem with a recumbent front, so that he can ferry help one of Kaja's friends (said friend has an injured shoulder) to accompany her on a ride.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: teethgrinder on March 17, 2016, 08:26:48 am
I'll be off to collect it from Blue Yonder near Cambridge in a bit, then it'll be used to help Jo with her RRTY Lesley Sung with an Easter Arrow, then I've offered my services to injures souls and friends of Kajsa who want to do a day with her.
I'll be doing two days with her friend Cath. 9th and 10th April. There is talk of me taking Kajsa's mum out, possibly Bumble too! Depending on how feasable that is.

I can definitely recommend riding with Kajsa. Very steady. She'll be doing a 100 mile ride starting from C&C site near Thetford this Sunday 20th March, starting at 7am. Maybe just go and meet her at the cafe (and buy her a scone?)

She's looking very good to me. Her legs are still tired but I think she has improved over the last month. Her mileage is going up and she seems to have a little bit more strength. I think she has the right mental approach too. I went up to help and give advice last weekend, but there really wasn't much I could do other than keep her company. If anything, I learned a few things from her.

Perhaps we can set up a YACF camping weekend to a C&C site and invite Kajsa, her mum and Bumble along? Probably best to ask her via Facebook. She'll be off to Europe for several months at the end of May.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on March 17, 2016, 10:03:34 am
That sounds fantastic, Steve.

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Nuncio on March 23, 2016, 08:45:34 pm
Oh dear.  Bottom problems. Chilblains.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJsJFbUC1X4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJsJFbUC1X4)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on March 23, 2016, 10:06:45 pm
It always comes back to arses eventually, doesn't it?  Good to see she's keeping a sense of humour.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Mr Larrington on March 24, 2016, 09:18:29 am
"The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of arse struggles" - K. Marx
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Hummers on March 27, 2016, 06:48:45 am
I'll be off to collect it from Blue Yonder near Cambridge in a bit, then it'll be used to help Jo with her RRTY Lesley Sung with an Easter Arrow, then I've offered my services to injures souls and friends of Kajsa who want to do a day with her.
I'll be doing two days with her friend Cath. 9th and 10th April. There is talk of me taking Kajsa's mum out, possibly Bumble too! Depending on how feasable that is.

I can definitely recommend riding with Kajsa. Very steady. She'll be doing a 100 mile ride starting from C&C site near Thetford this Sunday 20th March, starting at 7am. Maybe just go and meet her at the cafe (and buy her a scone?)

She's looking very good to me. Her legs are still tired but I think she has improved over the last month. Her mileage is going up and she seems to have a little bit more strength. I think she has the right mental approach too. I went up to help and give advice last weekend, but there really wasn't much I could do other than keep her company. If anything, I learned a few things from her.

Perhaps we can set up a YACF camping weekend to a C&C site and invite Kajsa, her mum and Bumble along? Probably best to ask her via Facebook. She'll be off to Europe for several months at the end of May.

I would love to do something like that.

H

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: teethgrinder on March 27, 2016, 08:34:16 am
Do you have any dates in mind Hummers?
She will be off to Europe about 20th May and coming back sometime in August.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Hummers on March 28, 2016, 06:46:51 pm
Do you have any dates in mind Hummers?
She will be off to Europe about 20th May and coming back sometime in August.

What about Saturday 16th April? I am up in NW London on the 15th and can always swing by to pick you up at MK on the Friday night if you like?

H
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on April 01, 2016, 09:32:02 am
I note from catching up with diary vids, that Kajsa has done a couple of days of low miles because of sore legs, chilblains, and a lot of weather.  And Teethgrinder has been riding the Morpheus (from the description, it was solo). 

I know she had a few miles 'in the bank', but I hope she can catch back to compensate for the short days.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on April 01, 2016, 09:32:35 am
And she's still hilarious, even when 'miserable'. ;D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Clemo on April 01, 2016, 11:47:51 am
And she's still hilarious, even when 'miserable'. ;D
Agreed, I look forward to the VBLOG's  :thumbsup:


I think Kajsa will make up any ground lost due to the weather etc. no problem.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on April 01, 2016, 09:55:41 pm
Assuming it isn't un poisson d'Avril, her latest video says that she is now in France. This is a right PITA a I had hoped to take Teethgrinder up on his generous offer to stoke my tandem so that I could ride with her and we could keep up.

Of course, we could always go to la Belle France.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: orraloon on April 02, 2016, 11:29:01 am
The paper fish is on you, monsieur.

Her live tracker has her to the NW of Lincoln this morning.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on April 05, 2016, 01:54:26 pm
Save me from going back over the whole thread.  Has Kajsa ever mentioned a target distance other than 'Beat the record'?
30,000 miles?
50,000 km?
Or simply Dovey+more
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on April 05, 2016, 02:26:44 pm
According to FB  (Kajsa Minion #2), it is Kajsa's birthday today. :)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: NeilH on April 05, 2016, 03:28:45 pm
Save me from going back over the whole thread.  Has Kajsa ever mentioned a target distance other than 'Beat the record'?
30,000 miles?
50,000 km?
Or simply Dovey+more

"Over 50,000km" - the pledge at the very bottom of the list at
http://www.ayearinthesaddle.com/#!pledge-some-sweat/cpmr

My recollection is that 100 miles a day has also been mentioned at some point, but I can't find a citation for that off hand. That would be around 58,900km.

Her current miles per day average is around 90, so she's between the two targets at the moment - but longer days should hopefully get easier as spring and summer roll around.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on April 06, 2016, 09:45:40 am
Oh dear, seems she's still struggling with "the legs" according to her latest vlog. Really hope she gets through this slump and recovers her mojo.  At least she enjoyed her birthday party  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on April 07, 2016, 02:30:00 pm
I am about to head off towards Nottingham with a tandem in order to rendez-vous with Mr. Abraham...  8)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on April 07, 2016, 02:31:34 pm
I am about to head off towards Nottingham with a tandem in order to rendez-vous with Mr. Abraham...  8)

Pics Strava or it didn't happen!   :D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on April 07, 2016, 04:29:58 pm
You'll have a tandem each!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on April 07, 2016, 08:47:30 pm
Redundancy!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Nuncio on April 08, 2016, 01:21:30 pm
When I hired a tandem the contract was very complicated. It came with a rider.
Carry on.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Chris S on April 08, 2016, 02:29:45 pm
When I hired a tandem the contract was very complicated. It came with a rider.
Carry on.

You shouldn't be allowed, you shouldn't!  ;D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Tigerbiten on April 08, 2016, 06:48:01 pm
When I hired a tandem the contract was very complicated. It came with a rider.
Carry on.
But did it come strings attached to the rider ....

....... for back seat driving.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on April 08, 2016, 10:57:32 pm
(https://scontent-lhr3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xat1/t31.0-8/12967474_1592022781116925_97593687597763570_o.jpg)

Sometimes OSM doesn't give much idea of where we were. The large town to the north of our route is Derby. We started and finished in Nottingham. 60 miles with some very fresh, hot sausage rolls at the half-way point. A really good ride. It's amazing how much faster I can go with Steve on the back!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: benborp on April 08, 2016, 11:25:48 pm
Did you get a good view of Swarkestone Bridge?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on April 09, 2016, 07:45:41 am
I have to say that if I did, I utterly failed to notice it. Most of the time I was completely unaware of where I was - I just followed Kajsa' wheel, and Steve just followed me, given that we were on the same bike. I did note that most of the time we were travelling south and west, and, had I thought about it, ought to have realised that we were very close to Derby, but one of the drawbacks of OSM, as illustrated by my previous post, is that big labels for big towns are absent.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Pale Rider on April 09, 2016, 01:12:27 pm
Looks like another short day for Kajsa.

She's turned round just south of Loughborough and paused with only 44kms done.

Pleased to see Steve looks firmly on board, if anyone can help her through the bad patch, it's him.

https://www.followmychallenge.com/live/ayearinthesaddle/
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on April 11, 2016, 11:16:38 am
Latest vlog.  I rather like the idea of passing the camera from rider to rider in the ride.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on April 11, 2016, 11:58:04 am
The large town to the north of our route is Derby.

Town? TOWN?!?!

It's been a City since 1977! :o

And, for those who are interested in such things, had a Cathedral since 1927.

Still a shitheap.

Carry on...
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Legs on April 13, 2016, 01:50:09 pm
Great little sandwich shop on the Alfreton Rd, though.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on April 14, 2016, 02:33:18 pm
Not a bad bike shop thereabouts. ;)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on April 15, 2016, 08:20:44 am
Her latest vlog implies that her leg issue has been resolved by her "holiday" and some physio, so hopefully she'll be back to the 100 mile days before long.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Grandad on April 15, 2016, 11:05:52 am
Calling Mr Drem........................

I'm sure I'm not the only one who is missing the comparison chart updates, especially since Kajsa has had to reduce her mileage for a while.

Pretty please.....
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on April 15, 2016, 05:07:11 pm
Calling Mr Drem........................

I'm sure I'm not the only one who is missing the comparison chart updates, especially since Kajsa has had to reduce her mileage for a while.

Pretty please.....

You can see this on her live page.
https://www.followmychallenge.com/live/ayearinthesaddle/
Click the 'Details' tab, then scroll down a bit.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: tonyh on April 15, 2016, 07:04:03 pm
Thanks Basil!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Grandad on April 15, 2016, 10:25:55 pm
Thanks but the mileage graph isn't nearly as detailed as Mr Drem's daily comparisons.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on April 19, 2016, 03:51:06 pm
Longer ride for Kajsa today.  165 km so far and still a few more to do if she's returning to Nottingham.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Gruby Mits on April 22, 2016, 11:54:34 am
...a graph would be oh so nice please  ;D

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on April 23, 2016, 03:27:13 pm
Kajsa has been mostly on or just above the 50,000 km line since Jan 1st, but fell below it recently with the shorter days following her 'leg issues'
Looks like today will be close to an imperial century which should pull her back.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Grandad on April 26, 2016, 12:47:31 am
Quote
...a graph would be oh so nice please

For a sort of graph see the link in Basil's post of 15th April
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on April 27, 2016, 10:26:54 am
There appears to be something odd looking about it at the moment.  I'm not sure it's working that well.

Anyway.  By my rough calculations, Kajsa passed 10,000 miles yesterday.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Clemo on April 27, 2016, 02:21:45 pm
Anyway.  By my rough calculations, Kajsa passed 10,000 miles yesterday.  :thumbsup:
There was a FB post this morning to this effect  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: teethgrinder on April 27, 2016, 05:02:13 pm
The facebook post was from her mum and she was a bit early. Kajsa got to 10,000 miles at around 11am-ish this morning.
I rode with her last Saturday and have kept an eye on her rides on Strava. It does look like her legs are making a recovery and she is going better than a few weeks ago. I definitely saw an improvement on Saturday.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: MrDrem on May 03, 2016, 12:12:08 am
I've just updated https://goo.gl/lYClYG bringing it back up to date.

Will try harder to keep it that way.

Sorry for not keeping it up to date, had a new addition to the family, who's been waking me up. Feel free to poke me here/twitter (@MrDrem)/lfgss (also @MrDrem) if I fail again. - LFGSS or Twitter being the most likely places to get a response :)

Is there any news on other challengers for this at the moment?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Gruby Mits on May 03, 2016, 11:21:39 am
Thanks MrDrem!
Good to see it represented in figures and graphs to get the head around the accomplishment.

All we need now is a compilation of best Vlogs from Kajsa and her Minions, or will that be out for xmas?  ;D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Nuncio on May 03, 2016, 01:23:00 pm
Is there any news on other challengers for this at the moment?

From the Amanda Coker thread:

Her Gofundme page says she would be starting this month. But it's only raised $800 so maybe money is an issue.

She's just getting some personal things taken care off before she starts. Shouldn't be long now.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Auntie Helen on May 17, 2016, 07:39:10 am
I see that Kajsa will be in the Netherlands for a few days but her website doesn't say where (except for Delft for two days). I have a few days off work and thought about driving to NL to ride with her but not sure how to go about organising it. Can anyone give me a clue?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: fboab on May 17, 2016, 08:00:14 am
Message her directly through Facebook.  She, or a minion will get back to you. Hope you get to ride with her.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Auntie Helen on May 17, 2016, 09:00:22 am
Thanks, I have done so.

I don't have to work until Friday but I don't think that will fit with her timings, although Saturday is a possibility. We shall see. I will have to do a car-assisted ride but it would be worth it for the experience!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Auntie Helen on May 17, 2016, 09:13:17 pm
We are in contact! I may try and ride with her on Saturday from Delft to Amsterdam and then get the train back.

Friday would have been better as she's doing loops from Delft but unfortunately I have to work.

It's a 2.5 hour drive each way to Delft but it would be fun to ride with her and I guess she'll have fewer cycling partners this side of the channel so might appreciate the company.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: fboab on May 17, 2016, 09:32:02 pm
Send her my very best wishes and have a great ride.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Auntie Helen on May 21, 2016, 10:03:53 pm
I rode with Kajsa today.

I drove for 3 hours to Dedgum in the middle of nowhere in Friesland which was the campsite where she would stay tonight. I then hoicked the trike out of the car and set off on the route she sent me towards Amsterdam.

This included crossing the 30km long Afsluitsdijk which creates the IJsselmeer and was very impressive. I had a strong headwind across and zillions of insects too. I took it easy on the outward journey not using my electric motor as I thought I might need it for the return trip with Kajsa.

I used the tracker to check where she was which gave me enough time for some lunch, then I headed off further in her direction, eventually spotting her about 5 kilometres from Den Oever.

We rode together, this time me using my E-Assist (level 6 out of 9 gave me roughly the right speed). We had a brilliant tailwind so did the Afsluitsdijk in the other direction WAY faster. We had a good chat along the way of course.

We did a slight extra bit at the end to get Kajsa her first ever 200km day.

She and her Mum gave me a cup of tea and a slice of the apple cake they raved about on the video yesterday, then I drove home again (another 3 hours).

It was well worth the trip - not just to ride with Kajsa but also to explore some of the lovely Friesland scenery and of course that amazing dike!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on May 21, 2016, 10:54:49 pm
Yay!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Justin(e) on May 22, 2016, 05:10:45 am
Well done Aunty Helen.

Did you discuss the new challenger Amanda?  I would be interested to hear what Kajsa's opinions are.  On the one hand, Kajsa has the runs on the board - but Amanda is coming at a huge rate of knots (albeit, there is a need to extrapolate from a small sample size.)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Auntie Helen on May 22, 2016, 07:00:20 am
Yes we did discuss her a bit. She's such a different challenger that it's hard to know how it will pan out. We talked about the mental challenge of riding every day for a year, and wondered if doing laps would do your head in!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on May 27, 2016, 09:32:22 am
Kajsa has put a plea out on facebook that will appeal to many of the true hearts of audaxers here.

Your stomachs.

She's asked if anyone who can offer her a free meal next year
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on May 31, 2016, 05:03:59 pm
Kajsa is now in Sweden!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Gruby Mits on June 08, 2016, 03:13:53 pm
She is going well, but had a broken molar that cut short her ride... still 143 km done!
I love how her posts and blogs are all about fun and "not about the bike"  ;D  Form my armchair her mind-set seems so positive and almost taking little notice of her great achievement. What a pleasure to follow her attempt.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on June 09, 2016, 12:45:26 pm
I do love the video diary.  Kajsa seems such fun.  We definitely need to get her involved here.  She'd fit in really well.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rabbit on June 10, 2016, 08:22:50 pm
I have utmost respect for Kasia and her wonderful attitude to her challenge. I still wish her the upmost best. She embodies everything I admire.

Amanda is a genetically gifted person who I will never understand or comprehend, but whom is obviously working hard to make the very most of her gift and, from a female perspective, I'd love to see her smash the current record to smithereens.

Go Kasia!   Go Amanda!  You are both amazing!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on June 16, 2016, 10:18:13 am
Looks like it might be a day off (or a much shorter one) ahead of vätternrundan.

Yep, she's in Motala today, ready for the off, after a short day yesterday.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on June 18, 2016, 08:29:40 am
So, she's 255km in, in 14hrs. Another 45km to go. Go Kajsa!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on June 18, 2016, 12:00:13 pm
And she's finished - I assume her longest ever ride. Congrats  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on June 18, 2016, 03:26:11 pm
I have utmost respect for Kasia and her wonderful attitude to her challenge. I still wish her the upmost best. She embodies everything I admire.

Amanda is a genetically gifted person who I will never understand or comprehend, but whom is obviously working hard to make the very most of her gift and, from a female perspective, I'd love to see her smash the current record to smithereens.

Go Kasia!   Go Amanda!  You are both amazing!

+1
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: zigzag on June 20, 2016, 10:17:54 am
any idea of the planned routes for Kajsa? she is now very near where my dad lives and he'd love to keep her company for a day or two.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: fboab on June 20, 2016, 10:30:55 am
Your best bet is to message her directly via Facebook. She or her minions are generally very quick to respond and she loves company.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on June 22, 2016, 04:02:39 pm
She had a small off :(  But found time to visit the zoo.  Long story - see FB.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on June 27, 2016, 08:12:47 am
As don't do Faceache, I don't know kajsa's plans, but if she manages an average ride today, she'll reach half distance.  25000 km.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Auntie Helen on June 27, 2016, 03:06:52 pm
Yep, photo posted of her at 25,000km
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on June 27, 2016, 03:42:23 pm
Her "live tracker" has her 12km short still, but either way she'll pass it today for sure  :thumbsup:

Edit: Well I assume that, as she's now stopped her Garmin is telling her she's done the 25000 :-)

Edit again:  She's off again, so I guess even her tracker will sjow 25,00+ (she's 4km short @ 16:00)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on June 28, 2016, 10:32:06 am
Despite (or maybe because of) reaching the half way point, Kajsa reports that she's feeling a bit low, and asks us all not to get bored.  And she says it's midgey.  Well, I think she's in Finland, so that's not unexpected.

While the videos keep coming, there's no chance of getting bored!

And love to Tina for getting a fit of giggles while Kajsa is trying to record a serious bit.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on July 01, 2016, 09:09:58 am
Well she's soldiering on, but not in a great frame of mind at the moment (though I suspect she'll bounce back as she has before) having lost / had stolen her fave Bolle sunnies, and also trying to break in a new Brooks saddle. Courage Kajsa.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on July 08, 2016, 08:42:45 pm
Nice to see her laughing today after some downbeat recent vlogs. Go Kajsa.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Hummers on July 10, 2016, 11:38:12 am
Does anyone know whhen she will be back in Blighty?

I have it in mind to join her on a ride in December.

H
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on July 13, 2016, 08:25:14 am
Does anyone know whhen she will be back in Blighty?

I have it in mind to join her on a ride in December.

H

She's due back on 22nd July according to her calendar. http://www.ayearinthesaddle.com/#!routes/cso5   As Fboab has mentioned in the past, if you contact Kajsa via her Facebook page she'll reply there.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on July 15, 2016, 02:54:51 pm
This Sunday she is competing in the Challenge Roth Ironman  - go Kajsa!!  And good luck!

EDIT: Actually she did the bike ride portion, and 2 minions did the run and swim - but she avreaged 25kph for the 100 miles, and is well pleased.  Good to see her looking chipper  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on July 21, 2016, 07:39:15 am
Well from her latest video diary she seems to have rediscovered her mojo somewhat, which is great to see.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: teethgrinder on July 22, 2016, 10:26:51 am
Kajsa is now back in England and on her way home via Essex and Cambs.
She's through her bad patch and seems to be going better than ever.
Probably following a similar route home to her outbound route, via the Gravesend Tilbury ferry.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on August 05, 2016, 09:46:45 am
Downbeat video last night.  Seems Kajsa doesn't think anyone is watching.  Go give her some Likes, folks!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on August 05, 2016, 10:24:41 am
I guess that riding every day is a huge psychological strain.   Sometimes we all need to know that we're not alone.

She needs an infectious dose of YACF hospitality methinks.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on August 05, 2016, 10:33:17 am
She isn't mentioning many people riding with her anymore.

I made a 'sweat pledge' of getting fit enough to ride with her and doing that. Isn't going to happen. Sent her my apologies.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: teethgrinder on August 05, 2016, 12:23:46 pm
I rode with Kajsa last Sunday and she is riding stronger than I have ever seen her ride. She also looks to be in good spirits.
Her daily diaries have diminished over the last few months. They are a tax of time and the ideas run dry. There's only so much you can say. Imagine trying to make 365 entertaining 5 minute videos on the fly, based mostly on one subject. If you can succeed at that, you can probably have a career in the industry.

From what I saw on Sunday, I'd say that Kajsa is feeling very positive, but support and encouragement can't be a bad thing.

She has her 50 mile non drop ride from Nottingham this Sunday (7th) which seems ideal for a YACF social ride (I'll be doing a training ride, so won't be there)

She also has sponsorship from the Camping and Caravan Club, so might accept an invite for a YACF barbeque or whatever on a camping weekend. She seems to visit Sherrif Hutton, near York sometimes.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Justin(e) on August 05, 2016, 02:46:07 pm
I guess that riding every day is a huge psychological strain.   

This is one of the biggest hurdles of the exercise.  Especially with that bullet train of Amanda approaching at record speed right behind.

Must be hard.  Allez Kasja.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on August 05, 2016, 03:23:14 pm
Allez Kajsa indeed.

Yes it looks like Amanda will smash records for the foreseeable but Kajsa will have achieved the record first if all goes to plan and Kajsa will have done it with a great sense of fun and pizazz along the way, ably supported by her mother, Bumble and the many minions.

There surely cannot be anybody who is not enjoying Kajsa's diaries and her infectious personality.

 
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: wajcgac on August 05, 2016, 09:27:02 pm
Don't forget that assuming Kajsa betters Billie Flemings distance, and Guinness don't renege on there promise to her, then Kajsa will have her own Guinness World Record no matter how many miles Amanda rides.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Shreds on August 06, 2016, 09:33:37 am
Good to hear an update from you TG. That is far more of an incite than lots of speculation.

Whilst you (TG) have motivated lots of people to have a crack at long distance records, it is far too early to speculate on outcomes as anything can happen. I wish them all well, it is such a massive undertaking regardless.

Guinness have backed themselves into an unescapable corner.....but this enterprise is bigger than the book!

Keep on going Kajsa! :)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on August 18, 2016, 04:23:24 pm
Facebook today: Kajsa reaches 20,000 miles!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: nikki on August 31, 2016, 11:21:11 am
I'm meeting Kajsa's mum Tina today for reasons of art; if you've any messages of encouragement for Kajsa I'll pass them on.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on August 31, 2016, 11:43:04 am
Some combination of Chapeau! and Allez! shoud do the trick :)

So, er, is Tina an artist?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: nikki on August 31, 2016, 05:13:49 pm
Some combination of Chapeau! and Allez! shoud do the trick :)

Should be meeting up with Kajsa tomorrow, so will deliver directly  :thumbsup:

So, er, is Tina an artist?

Yeah, I would say so, although one that's currently lacking access to a large kiln (aren't we all).

She's also one of my conversationalists for the Orrery project.

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on August 31, 2016, 05:21:10 pm
Cooooool! 8)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Nuncio on August 31, 2016, 08:39:55 pm
Some combination of Chapeau! and Allez! shoud do the trick :)

Eau-Lez!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Justin(e) on September 01, 2016, 07:28:44 am
Some combination of Chapeau! and Allez! shoud do the trick :)

Eau-Lez!

acalephae     

(http://selectionreservenaturelle.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/acalypha_hispida1_1000.jpg)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on September 01, 2016, 07:43:41 am
Just watcher her latest "daily diary" and apparently someone is suing her for causing whiplash!  ::-)  No detail on who or how, but she wasn't best pleased  :(
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Clemo on September 01, 2016, 10:50:08 am
Just watcher her latest "daily diary" and apparently someone is suing her for causing whiplash!  ::-)  No detail on who or how, but she wasn't best pleased  :(
I watched it without the sound due to it being late and not wanting to wake folks. It has to be car related surely, although I can understand why no details were given
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on September 01, 2016, 12:17:12 pm
I assume she either had the arrogance to assume priority at a junction where she had priority or did that BloodyCyclist thing of phasing into existence right in front of someone's car, causing the driver to do an emergency stop.

Hopefully she's okay, and insurance companies can be left to argue it out amongst themselves.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: red marley on September 01, 2016, 01:24:22 pm
Total Women's Cycling (http://totalwomenscycling.com/) have opened up nominations for this years TWC awards (https://totalwomenscycling.com/lifestyle/total-womens-cycling-awards-2016-cast-votes-84357/). There's a space under 'unsung hero' (Q.11) for nominating Kajsa should anyone feel inclined...
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: red marley on September 05, 2016, 09:37:03 pm
Kajsa's own sweat pledge this September is to ride at least 100 miles per day. She's managed it so far with rides in the first five days of 100, 102, 100, 105 and 100 miles. If all goes to plan that should take her to over 24,200 miles by the end of the month.

Go Kajsa!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on September 11, 2016, 04:29:52 pm
What a wonderful person Kajsa is!  It was a joy to share a ride (well, a bit of one), and a cafe stop with her.

She seems to fit in perfectly with the yacf crowd.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: nikki on September 11, 2016, 06:59:05 pm
I'd like to think that, as a group, we welcomed Kajsa, Tina and Bumble by being on our bestest behaviour throughout the whole weekend.

...Top marks to Vince for getting his arse in her post ride Strava photo (https://dgtzuqphqg23d.cloudfront.net/ucuNGzcfdNbv8W2CaxZgeIJJzqQ_3bxC0c9ntb12zx4-2048x1536.jpg)  ;D  :facepalm:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Ruthie on September 11, 2016, 08:15:03 pm
She really is absolutely lovely, and so are Bumble and her mum. 
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Vince on September 11, 2016, 08:46:54 pm
I'd like to think that, as a group, we welcomed Kajsa, Tina and Bumble by being on our bestest behaviour throughout the whole weekend.

...Top marks to Vince for getting his arse in her post ride Strava photo (https://dgtzuqphqg23d.cloudfront.net/ucuNGzcfdNbv8W2CaxZgeIJJzqQ_3bxC0c9ntb12zx4-2048x1536.jpg)  ;D  :facepalm:  :thumbsup:
Fame at last  ;D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on September 11, 2016, 10:43:54 pm
I would like to stake a prospective claim on behalf of Nikki and I that we have ridden at Guinness Wod Record pace ;)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on September 12, 2016, 02:13:09 pm
Ooh.  Kajsa is as far west as she's ever been, nearing Hereford.  Any further than that and she'll be in severe danger of WALES.   
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on September 12, 2016, 02:20:15 pm
Yes, she did say they were wandering over that way, and I was concerned there might be impolite uppage en route (we went up one arrow between Long Itch and Stratford).
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mattc on September 12, 2016, 03:13:11 pm
Does anyone else think of Kajsa when they see those Nordic yoghurt adverts with the woman cycling through the snow?

(its called Sklyr, or something equally unspellable.)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on September 12, 2016, 05:22:45 pm
No, largely because I haven't seen the adverts.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mattc on September 12, 2016, 06:58:01 pm
Really? Its on the Bikes & Chess channel regulrly.

Is your TV broken? :(
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: red marley on September 12, 2016, 10:32:10 pm
For those without a telly, Kajsa's day 253 video features an all-star cast of YACFers...inna pub:

https://youtu.be/zDyM82rGrB8
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on September 13, 2016, 11:59:24 am
Having watched that, I feel guilty that The Little Duck upstaged a probable future Guinness World Record Holder (and all round good egg) :-[
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on September 13, 2016, 03:59:14 pm
Don't worry! There are more than 250 other videos where he didn't!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on September 21, 2016, 04:15:39 pm
She has reported an off, but apparently the bike wasn't damaged.  She was a bit shaky telling the tale on video, mind :/
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on September 21, 2016, 08:03:33 pm
Kajsa is now ¾ of the way there.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: nikki on September 23, 2016, 09:16:52 pm
https://totalwomenscycling.com/riding/twc-awards-2016-winners-unveiled-88943/#fhkzkYdvvqgPLrOJ.97  :thumbsup:

Quote
Kajsa received many, many nominations from readers, all of them breathtaken both by her ride, and also by the constant stream of inspiration coming from the ‘Sweat Challenges’ she’s encouraged other women to take on.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: woollypigs on September 23, 2016, 09:21:23 pm
Yeah I saw it on Farcebook and it is full of \o/
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on September 23, 2016, 11:21:40 pm
 :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: red marley on September 24, 2016, 09:46:24 am
Well deserved award. I hope mum shares in the glory too.

And twenty three and half thousand miles is surely worth it for this.

(http://gicentre.org/oytt/images/KajsaAndJoRowsellShand.jpg)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on September 24, 2016, 10:27:27 am
Fabulous and totally deserved.   8)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on September 29, 2016, 12:52:32 pm
A brilliant diary last night.  Mum's comment is worth seeing.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on September 30, 2016, 04:16:24 pm
Kajsa has posted a vid giving her opinions of Amanda and Alicia.  I guess she was fed up of people asking her.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on September 30, 2016, 04:40:34 pm
And of course she was generous in thought and showed not a hint of any negativity or ill feeling towards Amanda in spite of the rhetoric that we've been seeing recently from some quarters.   

I think that because we live in a world of negativity, especially through conventional as well as social media, people take the opportunity to be unpleasant to ever increasing levels.

Roll on Kajsa.   :thumbsup:

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: lahoski on September 30, 2016, 05:04:12 pm
That's cos she's a good egg, that Kajsa.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on September 30, 2016, 05:07:37 pm
She certainly is. 
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on September 30, 2016, 05:57:57 pm
...
Roll on Kajsa.   :thumbsup:

Wouldn't she object?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on October 03, 2016, 05:46:10 pm
Hmm, no movement from Kajsa's tracking today, hope all is well.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Chris S on October 03, 2016, 05:47:03 pm
Hmm, no movement from Kajsa's tracking today, hope all is well.

Laid up with the Lurgy, according to FB postings.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on October 03, 2016, 05:54:20 pm
Ah, I don't FB so missed that. Lets hope she recovers fast.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: DaveE128 on October 04, 2016, 10:05:55 am
Looks like Kajsa's back on the road today  :thumbsup:

Hope she doesn't overdo it today!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on October 28, 2016, 10:35:41 am
No movement today.  Is she okay?  (I don't do Faceache and haven't watched her vlog for a while, so may have missed something.)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on October 28, 2016, 12:17:53 pm
As you were.  Just rather a late start.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on October 28, 2016, 05:39:58 pm
Having checked on Strava she has logged a 162km ride today, so I think there was a tracker malfunction this morning and it started late.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on October 29, 2016, 10:38:54 am
Having checked on Strava she has logged a 162km ride today, so I think there was a tracker malfunction this morning and it started late.

Oh OK.
Does that mean that the total distance on
https://www.followmychallenge.com/live/ayearinthesaddle/
is now inaccurate and short of a few kms?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on October 29, 2016, 02:02:39 pm
Looks like it, yes, as yesterday's total shows well down on the previous day (I'm assuming that the "details" bar graph isn't a real time reflection of distance on the day).
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on October 31, 2016, 02:18:00 pm
Kajsa did a Halloween ride, so may well be down that day.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on November 04, 2016, 03:20:40 pm
Hmm, getting quite close to TG's home town today. (Cue immediate northward turn!)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on November 05, 2016, 10:13:10 am
And it looks like I've just missed her passing the end of our lane  :-\. Tracker had some lag in its updates.

But it looks like she's on an out-and-back, so I might get a second chance to cheer her on  :)

Edit:  And see her I did, as she went past at a stately rate accompanied by half a dozen others.

Go Kajsa   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Hummers on November 20, 2016, 02:40:22 pm
On one of her casts (11th) I thought she said there was a group gathering?

Was hoping to ride with her at least once but this is going to be hard now with work and stuff getting in the way.

What a great effort so far though. Truly fantastic.

H
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on November 20, 2016, 03:10:07 pm
On one of her casts (11th) I thought she said there was a group gathering?

Was hoping to ride with her at least once but this is going to be hard now with work and stuff getting in the way.

What a great effort so far though. Truly fantastic.

H

Is this it?
Join us celebrating @yearinthesaddle 50000km, 11 December.  12m non drop ride and @RuddingtonChoir at the end! https://t.co/A3glfESVVq

Or this?

50,000 km celebration is being held on 11 Dec at Harvey Hadden in Nott'ham. Come & bring many friends! https://t.co/vlatQCxBMm Pls RT
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on November 20, 2016, 03:28:30 pm
The youtube diary mentioned Harvey Hadden.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on November 20, 2016, 03:30:57 pm
Is this it?
Join us celebrating @yearinthesaddle 50000km, 11 December.  12m non drop ride and @RuddingtonChoir at the end! https://t.co/A3glfESVVq

Or this?

50,000 km celebration is being held on 11 Dec at Harvey Hadden in Nott'ham. Come & bring many friends! https://t.co/vlatQCxBMm Pls RT

Might make an effort to go to that, assuming feets are cooperating.  It's my last best chance to ride with Kajsa.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on November 23, 2016, 03:54:43 pm
Looking at the tracker page just now, it seems that Kajsa is only a little under 300km from Billie's record.  She should pass it either Friday evening or early on Saturday.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on November 23, 2016, 04:12:17 pm
Does she know where she will be for this august occurrence? I feel there needs to be some sort of celebration.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Basil on November 23, 2016, 04:57:58 pm
Dunno.  I'm not on Faceache and haven't watched her vlog for some time.  It may have been discussed on either.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on November 24, 2016, 08:37:28 am
AFAIK there is no celebration planned for passing Billie's record. The two she has arranged are for 1) meeting her target of 50,000km (at Harvey Hadden sports centre) and 2) a final day party at the Leisure Lakes shop that's been servicing her bike.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on November 24, 2016, 02:13:59 pm
Oh well, I will have to celebrate on my own then!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on November 24, 2016, 02:37:18 pm
Check my maths, but it looks like she might have done it?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on November 24, 2016, 02:41:26 pm
TG has just posted that she has done it.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on November 24, 2016, 02:44:07 pm
Excellent work! Congratulations to Kajsa!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on November 24, 2016, 02:45:03 pm
Celebrating with scones.  Who'd have thunk it?  https://twitter.com/halfironmum/status/801788032953253888
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Canardly on November 24, 2016, 03:06:09 pm
Awesome.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: teethgrinder on November 24, 2016, 05:00:31 pm
Yes!
She's passed Billie's record but needs 50,000km for Guinness to accept the record, so still about 1,400 miles to go.
She should manage that within about 2 weeks.

There's a celebratory 12 mile ride around Nottingham on 11th December at 10am from

Harvey Hadden Sports Village
Wigman Road,
Nottingham
NG8 4PB

Bound to be some cake knocking around too.
A good excuse for a YACF ride.

I hope she gets a good turnout. It'd be handy for her (helpers) if she has an idea of numbers so mentioning that you're coming or interested on her Facebook event would be good. If there are a lot of non Facebookers interested, then it might be worth getting an idea of numbers here.

https://www.facebook.com/events/219355321832508/

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on November 25, 2016, 08:04:31 am
Well done Kajsa.  Nottingham's a bit far for me to get to, but chapeau.  That's five times my annual distance in a good year.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: matthew on November 25, 2016, 12:37:55 pm
Also made the front page of the BBC News website England http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-38103221 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-38103221)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Justin(e) on November 25, 2016, 01:37:38 pm
Well done Kajsa

Must be such a nice feeling.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on November 25, 2016, 02:02:51 pm
Also made the front page of the BBC News website England http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-38103221 (http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-nottinghamshire-38103221)

Ah, that's the reason for her recent tweet - she's continuing until 31st December, not stopping on the 11th as that news article states!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on November 25, 2016, 05:38:18 pm
PSA: She's about to be on http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_nottingham apparently.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Phil W on December 04, 2016, 06:59:01 pm
Anyone going on the 40 mile no drop ride from Cheshunt on 17th Dec?
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on December 07, 2016, 08:19:44 pm
Kajsa has less than 200km to get to her 50,000km target. A good long day tomorrow perhaps??  Go Kajsa  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on December 09, 2016, 09:35:03 am
Well it'll be today, and as the tracker has just fired up, probably in the next hour or two that Kajsa will break the 50,000 km mark.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: woollypigs on December 09, 2016, 09:56:03 am
Go Kajsa!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Assasin on December 09, 2016, 10:05:13 am
Just make sure you have January 1st off to celebrate!!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on December 09, 2016, 12:08:12 pm
Looks like live-streaming the rollover didn't go according to plan, but I assume that means she's done it:  https://t.co/yqeoLcsf8W
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on December 09, 2016, 12:25:47 pm
She has - third time lucky with Periscope  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on December 10, 2016, 12:07:56 pm
She did - and there was a dance!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on December 11, 2016, 05:38:24 pm
There was a celebration ride too, in That Nottingham.  In which I finally got to ride with (and congratulate) Kajsa, and I witnessed teethgrinder OTP refuse the offer of CAKE  :o
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: woollypigs on December 11, 2016, 05:51:07 pm
... I witnessed teethgrinder OTP refuse the offer of CAKE  :o
ok the end IS nigh very nigh indeed ...
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on December 27, 2016, 06:37:12 pm
Kajsa has done her last 100 miler of the year. 3 days to go (as it was a leap year this year)  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: nikki on December 29, 2016, 01:18:22 pm
There's a finish line party at 8.15 am on 31st of December: https://en-gb.facebook.com/events/662733770566405/

Can someone with a facebook account let me know if there's a route published for the ride in, please?
(or any other details - I can't access the discussion section of the page)

Thanks!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Deano on December 29, 2016, 01:23:08 pm
Here you go, Nikki:

Quote
The Last Hurrah (31 Dec)... Leaving from home at 7am, and gently making my way to Leisure Lakes to get there for 8.15am. This is the route, join me wherever you like! https://www.strava.com/routes/7228007

You should be able to see the Strava route. Hope you have a good ride, and report back for those of us who won't be there :)
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on December 29, 2016, 01:24:41 pm
There's a finish line party at 8.15 am on 31st of December: https://en-gb.facebook.com/events/662733770566405/

Can someone with a facebook account let me know if there's a route published for the ride in, please?
(or any other details - I can't access the discussion section of the page)

Thanks!

She's published a Strava route, leaving her home at 07:00. I can't post the link right now as I'm on the tablet and don't know how to!

Edit - but obvs someone else could  ;D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: nikki on December 29, 2016, 02:26:49 pm
Thanks both!

Not sure I'll be able to make it, but I can at least now start pondering the logistics!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on December 31, 2016, 08:25:13 am
And it's all over. Well done Kajsa.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: nikki on December 31, 2016, 11:22:52 am
Bikes were ridden, cheers were cheered, tears were shed, scones may have been consumed.
Am super impressed not only by what she's done but also the manner in which she did it.

Well done Kajsa indeed!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Peter on December 31, 2016, 11:25:36 am
Yes.  She's also very funny and that's far more important for the world!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: JenM on December 31, 2016, 11:40:11 am
32,326 miles.........A fantastic achievement.

Congratulations Kajsa and congratulations also should go to her Mother and all the others that have supported her throughout the year.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mattc on December 31, 2016, 12:02:43 pm
Those with high blood pressure should proably avoid FAcebook today.
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Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: simonp on December 31, 2016, 03:10:53 pm
Congratulations Kajsa. Time for a rest.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on December 31, 2016, 03:31:50 pm
Ah, yanks in a triumpist era.   Sigh.

Congratulations Kajsa - and thanks for coming to Long Itch.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: cycleman on December 31, 2016, 06:43:50 pm
well done  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: JBB on December 31, 2016, 09:54:54 pm
Ah, yanks in a triumpist era.   Sigh.

Congratulations Kajsa - and thanks for coming to Long Itch.   :thumbsup:

Ditto! It was great to meet you and your family. We really enjoyed your company and I have been following and enjoying your reports ever since. So pleased for you!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Jaded on January 01, 2017, 01:04:19 am
This is such fun!

Well done - a richly deserved record.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: andrew531 on January 01, 2017, 09:12:25 pm
What a year! Obviously hard work but the videos etc made it seem so much fun! / made it so much fun for those following. A huge inspiration. Well done Kajsa and Kajsa's Mum!! 
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on January 04, 2017, 09:22:18 pm
And now Kajsa has more time to post on the forum! :D
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Kim on January 04, 2017, 09:24:37 pm
Looks like she's found something to keep herself busy:  http://www.sweatpledge.com/
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on January 04, 2017, 09:45:58 pm
I think it is an excellent idea. I've signed up for the mailing list and I have a goal or two in mind.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: MacB on January 05, 2017, 03:44:20 pm
Another stunning achievement and I enjoyed this one a bit more, I wasn't worried about whether the participant might go so far as to cause themselves permanent harm. But really I think the video updates, she's funny and they almost made the cycling itself a side issue. There're only so many times I can gasp at mileage figures but I can be constantly entertained by clever and funny video diaries.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Paul H on January 14, 2017, 01:09:40 pm
Kajsa is giving a talk in Nottingham on 11th March, if it's anything like as entertaining as her social media has been it'll be well worth the tenner ticket price.  Tickets went on sale today, I don't know the size of the venue but there were 55 showing available when I booked mine.

http://www.ayearinthesaddle.com/copy-of-events

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on January 16, 2017, 03:24:46 pm
And she has today received official confirmation of her Guinness World record of 52, 025.09 km in a year.   :D

https://twitter.com/yearinthesaddle/status/820954738359418881
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Wowbagger on January 16, 2017, 03:26:29 pm
Brilliant news!
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Butterfly on January 16, 2017, 04:33:14 pm
Fantastic :thumbsup:
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Phil W on January 16, 2017, 05:53:12 pm
Kajsa is giving a talk in Nottingham on 11th March, if it's anything like as entertaining as her social media has been it'll be well worth the tenner ticket price.  Tickets went on sale today, I don't know the size of the venue but there were 55 showing available when I booked mine.

http://www.ayearinthesaddle.com/copy-of-events

Half the tickets now sold
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: rafletcher on January 16, 2017, 06:33:39 pm
Kajsa is giving a talk in Nottingham on 11th March, if it's anything like as entertaining as her social media has been it'll be well worth the tenner ticket price.  Tickets went on sale today, I don't know the size of the venue but there were 55 showing available when I booked mine.

http://www.ayearinthesaddle.com/copy-of-events

Half the tickets now sold

On twitter she was down to single figures left to sell.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mattc on January 16, 2017, 06:46:07 pm
And she has today received official confirmation of her Guinness World record of 52, 025.09 km in a year.   :D

https://twitter.com/yearinthesaddle/status/820954738359418881

Excellent news!



I feel my little topic has run it's marvellous course - I shall delete it as soon as I find the right button.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on January 16, 2017, 09:09:23 pm
Fabulous achievement.   

I believe that we have two of those tickets for the Nottingham session but must check that.

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Nuncio on January 26, 2017, 02:35:28 pm
There's an interview* with Kajsa on the latest Cycling Podcast. Skip towards the end if you have no interest in cyclocross.

* Well, it was edited to sound as if it was just Kajsa doing the talking.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on May 08, 2017, 02:27:33 pm
Excellent talk from Kajsa at Long Itch, together with an hour of questions, and loads more questions afterwards.

She almost agreed to join yacf ;) ;D

It appears she will hold this record in perpetuity, as it has now been 'rested' by GWR, and isn't even listed on the website >:(
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on May 08, 2017, 02:34:16 pm
Guinness messed Kajsa around during the attempt and now afterwards.   Not exactly professional nor respectful behaviour in my opinion. 

Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on May 08, 2017, 02:37:16 pm
Not.
At.
All.

Considering she said that part of what gave her the idea was the joy of reading the book as a kid, to beggar around (even before the start, though more since) is disgraceful.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on May 08, 2017, 03:00:16 pm
After what Guinness did to Mike, I lost all respect for them as an organisation. They are an utter joke.

I know they were always a bit arbitrary, but they can't even stick to their own rules.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: wajcgac on May 08, 2017, 07:38:17 pm
It appears she will hold this record in perpetuity, as it has now been 'rested' by GWR, and isn't even listed on the website >:(

I wonder if they explained this to Kajsa, when she had the discussions with them after Kurt's UMCA record was ratified, and the obvious implications regarding Amanda's attempt that this would happen?

If not, Guinness should be ashamed.



Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on May 09, 2017, 09:44:14 am
I did think at the time it would mean that, if Kajsa set a new record, then there would never be an opportunity to beat it under those rules.  It's the business about not really acknowledging it that rankles.  Not in the book, OK.  There are an awful lot of Official GWR records, and a limited amount of space in the book, but I do think they should all be credited on the website.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Ian H on May 09, 2017, 09:50:25 am
After what Guinness did to Mike, I lost all respect for them as an organisation. They are an utter joke.

I know they were always a bit arbitrary, but they can't even stick to their own rules.

Here are two of the reasons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ross_McWhirter) why I dislike the Guinness records industry.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on May 09, 2017, 10:13:32 am
Well, yes, that's a given.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: Polar Bear on May 09, 2017, 12:06:36 pm
It appears she will hold this record in perpetuity, as it has now been 'rested' by GWR, and isn't even listed on the website >:(

I wonder if they explained this to Kajsa, when she had the discussions with them after Kurt's UMCA record was ratified, and the obvious implications regarding Amanda's attempt that this would happen?

If not, Guinness should be ashamed.

No.  Kajsa only found out recently when her record disappeared without trace.   She had to call them and enquire as to why.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: clarion on October 18, 2017, 10:04:25 am
Kajsa reports that she is doing a TEDx Talk.  Should be interesting.
Title: Re: womens record attempt - Kajsa Tylen Jan 1st start
Post by: dogtrousers on October 18, 2017, 11:55:51 am
Kajsa reports that she is doing a TEDx Talk.  Should be interesting.
Nov 11 in Crete. 
This is all Greek to me but there is a picture of Kajsa on it so I guess it's the right page.
https://2017.tedxchania.com/