I genuinely thought JHB was a parody.As for Lozza, he's the roadkill badger of the culture wars.
I'm puzzled by the absence of the world's bigliest WINNER LOSER from this thread. Have I missed a nomination?
Quote from: TheLurkerI'm puzzled by the absence of the world's bigliest WINNER LOSER from this thread. Have I missed a nomination?There are 136 instances of '{name redacted for reasons of good taste}' in this thread...
The education secretary, Gavin Williamson, has claimed the UK was the first country in the world to clinically approve a coronavirus vaccine because the country has “much better” scientists than France, Belgium or the US.Williamson said he was not surprised the UK was the first to roll out the immunisation because “we’re a much better country than every single one of them”.
Gavin Williamson, education secretary, channeling Flanders and SwanQuoteThe education secretary, Gavin Williamson, has claimed the UK was the first country in the world to clinically approve a coronavirus vaccine because the country has “much better” scientists than France, Belgium or the US.Williamson said he was not surprised the UK was the first to roll out the immunisation because “we’re a much better country than every single one of them”.Linky to The Guardianhttps://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/dec/03/gavin-williamson-britains-a-much-better-country-than-all-of-them
Reading around the subject I see that Australia which has bought into the same vaccine is not prepared to rush in and says that they will have the benefit of the full data analysis and real life data from the UK's rollout.PR maybe but it highlights that we are rushing in not fully enlightened. And then we have super twats like Hancock and Williamson doing their "England is best because ..." bollox.I hope that our rush for glory doesn't prove to be rash and foolish.
Quote from: Polar Bear on 03 December, 2020, 11:33:28 amReading around the subject I see that Australia which has bought into the same vaccine is not prepared to rush in and says that they will have the benefit of the full data analysis and real life data from the UK's rollout.PR maybe but it highlights that we are rushing in not fully enlightened. And then we have super twats like Hancock and Williamson doing their "England is best because ..." bollox.I hope that our rush for glory doesn't prove to be rash and foolish.From my understanding, we revised our approach to this so some of the data could be compared in parallel, which perhaps isn't a bad thing. Totally unrelated to the EU, of course, since we always could do this. The data is comprehensive, the trial large, with no significant reported adverse events. It's unlikely it won't get approved by other regulators.The Russian vaccine hasn't been through a proper phase III trial – that's scheduled to run to April/May 2021. The Russians just went ahead and approved it. Now that is rash, no one really knows how well it works and the potential for adverse events.This all reminds me that, no matter how you dress it up, this sort of petty nationalism leaves a bad taste. Thinking (a long way) back, in the last lab I worked in was in the US, my co-conspirator was German, I shared an office with a French woman, and we had students and post-docs from the US, South Korea, Finland, China, and an Indian via Nigeria (the US has more recently considerable step back by implementing visa quotas). This ought to be a salutary reminder that borders are impediments to progress.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55175162Gavin Williamson. Just the sort of knob-end you need to open his cretinous mouth at the critical stages of the Brexit negotiation. If I were Barnier, I'd have told us to FRO and gone home.