Yet Another Cycling Forum
Off Topic => The Pub => Food & Drink => Topic started by: andyoxon on 10 June, 2011, 11:10:04 am
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Any good ideas for a wholesome breakfast that doesn't involve breakfast cereals? Older mini ao (13) doesn't eat them, though will manage porridge/readybrek occasionally. Quite often it's a slice of white toast with marge and an enforced satsuma or apple... :-\
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Pizza (decent one).
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I often have peanut butter and banana sandwiches, albeit only on days when I'll be riding in to work1 - failing that, I generally go for a couple of pieces of fruit (usually a banana and an apple or orange) or make myself a smoothie or similar (a handy use for banananananas that are past their best). And tea/coffee, of course.
I do eat cereals, but a change is as good as a rest.
1 - I'm diabetic, so such things only feature in my diet if I'm actively exercising. Otherwise, YMMV.
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Any combination of:
Flapjack
Eggs various
Dried fruit salad
Smoothies
Nuts, seeds and berries
I don't see what the problem is with eating rice, pasta and other less traditional breakfast foods first thing in the morning. If you don't like cereals, then a good bowl of some other stodge is what you need to kickstart your system and fuel you through the early part of the day...
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Fruit with yoghurt. I use sultanas, strawberries, banana and tinned/bottled peaches and grapefruit (in juice rather than syrup). I have them over shredded wheat, but you could add them to weetabix or porrage. Or not.
And why an "enforced" piece of fruit? That won't really help them become popular. As long as other fibre (from veg, salads etc.) is in the diet then they aren't absolutely necessary - though welcome I agree.
Re rice for breakfast - my stepson holiday in India - he did say curry for breakfast got a bit much after three weeks - but then so (for me) did "full English" when in extended B&B stays. YMMV but a good veg curry with brown rice makes a cracking breakfast on occaision.
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If she doesn't like wholemeal bread, try something like this:
Hovis Best Of Both Medium White 800G - Groceries - Tesco Groceries (http://www.tesco.com/groceries/Product/Details/?id=252937387)
EDIT: Have an egg with it to get the protein.
Smoothies can be delicious, so keep trying different ones if they're not liked at first.
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Pizza (decent one).
Absolutely - back in the days when I actually rode Audax calendar events, cold pizza was my breakfast of choice ;D
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I make porridge every morning using own-brand oats and soya milk. No wheat, no dairy, muchly lovely. I make it in a pan, but a microwave is probably easier for a single portion (I don't own one but I have used this method).
I don't see what the problem is with eating rice, pasta and other less traditional breakfast foods
"Traditional" here means cereals with milk, I assume? Go anywhere in the world that isn't the USA or the UK (as I know you have) and you won't see much of this :).
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Boiled/poached egg (possibly accompanied by toast) + piece of fruit.
There is sound evidence that feeding children protein before school helps with concentration at school.
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Observations on breakfast cereals - have a look at the amount of sugar in each - frightening amounts.
Cereals are heavily marketed as being "healthy" -its just marketing. They're highly processed foods, which must have a huge profit margin.
And look at the added vitamins claims - as far as I know this was mandatory, as breakfast cereals would have no vitamins at all. Advertising turns a necessity into a plus point - and we swallow it (pun intended).
Having said all of the above, I breakfast on Lizis Granola every morning. Low GI, no added sugar at all, and its quite delicious. Its the antithesis of the highly processed wheat in other breakfast cereals.
Talking about protein though - kippers are very cheap. Don't see a 13 year old eating them voluntarily though!
Bacon sarnies on the other hand....
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Pizza (decent one).
Absolutely - back in the days when I actually rode Audax calendar events, cold pizza was my breakfast of choice ;D
You could even put an egg on it.
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Make more than you normally would of supper and he can have the leftovers. Works fine here (though Little Cudzo is a fan of a weetabix-shreddies-snapple crackle popple combo).
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Does OMOA enjoy a damned good marmalade?
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I'd also suggest eggs. I am not an egg-y person, but I started eating boiled eggs during our recent Denmark tour and discovered they fuel me far better than cereal.
Alternatively, you could try offering her a Danish pavement.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-W9Ohhc671Ic/Te1BnPpmFXI/AAAAAAAAfho/El7O-MVsG_c/s640/DSC08158.JPG)
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Bzzzt! Deviation! That was lunch! :P
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Cheese & marmalade sandwich.
Pancakes.
Porridge oats/muesli with fruit juice/yoghurt/mashed banana.
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Orange juice
Fresh fruit salad
Yoghurt
Toast & preserves
Croissants
My Mum never has cereal for breakfast and does not seem to suffer; she'd eat most of the above but not the yoghurt.
Israeli breakfast:
Bread & crackers
Fresh salad veg: cucumber tomato pepper etc
'White cheese' (low-fat quark)/ Cottage cheese/ Boursin-like soft cheese/ hard cheese
Fresh fruit, especially watermelon
Yoghurt
Really, there must be something in the kitchen you daughter will eat; it doesn't really matter what she eats, though she should eat before school. If she fancies left-overs from last night's supper, so be it. No harm will result.
I would not fret.
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I like the sound of the Israeli breakfast, except maybe for the arbuz.
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I knew someone who swore by a can of Stella and a Mars Bar.
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Stella and a Mars bar - we're off to NSFW!
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Toast and marmite, toast and a banana, toast and peanut butter, beans on toast. Bacon roll. Boiled egg and soldiers. Scrambled egg on toast. Muesli and yoghurt or milk with fruit. Oatcakes and topping of choice.
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I like the sound of the Israeli breakfast, except maybe for the arbuz.
This little one disagrees...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Ll2jGLfAQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Ll2jGLfAQ)
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I like the sound of the Israeli breakfast, except maybe for the arbuz.
This little one disagrees...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Ll2jGLfAQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Ll2jGLfAQ)
I like the cut of his jib ;D (and I love watermelon ...)
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I like the sound of the Israeli breakfast, except maybe for the arbuz.
This little one disagrees...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Ll2jGLfAQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Ll2jGLfAQ)
;D
I'd eat watermelon for breakfast too if I was that size and in a nice hot sunny park or garden.
Also, that clip makes me really glad I've got my new internet connection - it's so much faster than the old one, video plays really smoothly. :)
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I like this one too.
YouTube
- danielush-Eating Passta- 2.2 years‏
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEAxqUlDwDo&feature=related)
Yoffee! (sp?)
<Aside - is Danielush a "proper" Hebrew name or is it a diminutive? Little Cudzo, who seems to be reminded of himself at that age, says "they should call him Pastush!" The -ush ending works as a soft diminutive in Polish - in fact I use it for him!>
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I like this one too.
YouTube
- danielush-Eating Passta- 2.2 years‏
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEAxqUlDwDo&feature=related)
Yoffee! (sp?)
<Aside - is Danielush a "proper" Hebrew name or is it a diminutive? Little Cudzo, who seems to be reminded of himself at that age, says "they should call him Pastush!" The -ush ending works as a soft diminutive in Polish - in fact I use it for him!>
Daniel is a proper name. 'Ush' (should it be ucz?) is, as you say, a diminutive of Polish origin.
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I like this one too.
YouTube
- danielush-Eating Passta- 2.2 years‏
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEAxqUlDwDo&feature=related)
Yoffee! (sp?)
<Aside - is Danielush a "proper" Hebrew name or is it a diminutive? Little Cudzo, who seems to be reminded of himself at that age, says "they should call him Pastush!" The -ush ending works as a soft diminutive in Polish - in fact I use it for him!>
Daniel is a proper name. 'Ush' (should it be ucz?) is, as you say, a diminutive of Polish origin.
In Polish it would be -us, but with an accent over the s making it a soft "shi" sound. Definitely sh not cz, though of course I have no idea how being filtered through Hebrew alters it.
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*thinks back to age 13*
Nothing for breakfast proper but a sausage roll from the canteen at 10.30am (morning break), usually. Past the age of 11 or so I've always found eating a meal in the morning challenging. I tend not to be hungry until 9 or 10am so I eat breakfast at my desk now. At 13 it was in the classroom before school.
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We have a box of mini Shredded Wheat in the house which the 13yo occasionally has for breakfast but none of us are big fans of cereal. He would happily have Coco Pops or something like that but we don't approve of that kind of thing.
We're all big fans of eggs, though. Poached, boiled or scrambled usually. Sometimes with a bit of bacon, maybe a grilled tomato.
Actually, grilled tomato on toast is rather good for breakfast (cf pizza, as mentioned earlier).
Granary toast with peanut butter and/or marmalade is another personal favourite. Or Marmite.
If you have time, pancakes are excellent for breakfast. To save time, you could make them the night before and reheat them. Or even have them out of a packet.
One of my specialities is oaty bacon and egg pancakes - make a pancake batter with oats instead of flour and add bits chopped up bacon to the mix. The pancakes come out quite thick, more like blinis than crepes, so are quite portable too - you can take them with you if you have to rush off.
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Pcolbeck junior has toasted muffins with honey every day for breakfast. Have offered him other stuff but he isn't keen. Doesn’t really matter so long as it fuels them up and isn’t mainly salt and sugar (like most breakfast cereals marketed at kids). The main thing is they eat something rather than running on empty all morning.
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Breakfast chez Jurek, most mornings:
Mango, bananananana, grapes, blue berries. All rolled in about (ok, this is where the no cereal bit might fail) three or four tbsp of reduced sugar Alpen. Avec milk.
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How on earth can you be organised enough to have those posh fruits to hand every day? :D
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How on earth can you be organised enough to have those posh fruits to hand every day? :D
Someone who wears shorts like that can have anything he wants.
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I am still curious to know what colour they really are. Shall we guess?
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Can you use Photoshop or equivalent?
Actually, I reckon they are Blueberry, to match his breakfast. Or mango.
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Breakfast chez Jurek, most mornings:
Mango, bananananana, grapes, blue berries. All rolled in about (ok, this is where the no cereal bit might fail) three or four tbsp of reduced sugar Alpen. Avec milk.
As in borówki or jagody? Just curious! I find the former bland in comparison.
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*thinks back to age 13*
Nothing for breakfast proper but a sausage roll from the canteen at 10.30am (morning break), usually. Past the age of 11 or so I've always found eating a meal in the morning challenging. I tend not to be hungry until 9 or 10am so I eat breakfast at my desk now. At 13 it was in the classroom before school.
Phew. I was getting worried that I was the only one! Similarly, I stopped liking breakfast at the age of 12-13 - the compromise I came to with my parents was that I would have a very small yogurt or chocolate mousse (mostly air), and they wouldn't nag me. I would then eat most of my lunch at 11:00, and that was fine. If I'm having a leisurely day then I'll have boiled eggs and soldiers, or a pain au chocolat, but on a work day I can't face the thought of breakfast - the first meal of the day is lunch.
The only time I did breakfast seriously was when I was doing a very labour-intensive job (on top of cycling at least 20 miles a day and doing 4-6 hours of Ashtanga each week). Then I was having breakfast, second breakfast, elevensies, a large lunch, afternoon tea, pre-dinner nibbles and dinner. And was the thinnest I'd ever been in my life. :-[
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I stopped liking breakfast at about the same time I stopped growing. ;D
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Breakfast chez Jurek, most mornings:
Mango, bananananana, grapes, blue berries. All rolled in about (ok, this is where the no cereal bit might fail) three or four tbsp of reduced sugar Alpen. Avec milk.
As in borówki or jagody? Just curious! I find the former bland in comparison.
I didn't think it was either as borówki I've always known as cranberries, and jagody I've always known as the blackberries that grow prolifically in hedgerows throughout the UK.
However, I've just looked in the book of words and in there it states borówka amerykanska is in fact blueberry.
How on earth can you be organised enough to have those posh fruits to hand every day? :D
Someone who wears shorts like that can have anything he wants.
Could we not bring my shorts to the breakfast table, please. :P
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I stopped liking breakfast at about the same time I stopped growing. ;D
Correlation or causation? ;)
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You forgot your wally, Jurek. How about having a pickled cumber for breakfast?
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You forgot your wally, Jurek. How about having a pickled cumber for breakfast?
Hmmm.... that's more of a mid-morning snack - and you can't have just the one. Can you?
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How on earth can you be organised enough to have those posh fruits to hand every day? :D
Someone who wears shorts like that can have anything he wants.
Could we not bring my shorts to the breakfast table, please. :P
;D :-*
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One of the delights of my weekly Euro-travels is the 'Continental' style of brekkie, not Croissants though fab with Apricot jam, but the Salami, Ham, Proscuitttio, and thin sliced cheese ... I've found these go bizarrely well with tinned .Peaches or Apricots. In fact tinned fruit + Yoghurt is pretty good too.
I never eat cereals for brekkie when travelling and rarely eat bread, I find the meat, cheese and fruit combo keeps me satiated for a long while.
An alternative is the Brazillian breakfats, 47 varieties of cake ;D
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Some good idea ideas... :thumbsup: See what happens this week...
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The courgette muffins (http://www.abelandcole.co.uk/recipes/courgettes#recipe6) from Abel and Cole's stack of recipes look like a great brekky idea, and sugar-free.
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EldestCub always loves the fact that at my elder sister's house they eat all sorts of non-standard stuff for breakfast. Pasta and soup were two of his favourites. One of his cousins there particularly likes rice with spinach and lots of lemon juice for breakfast.
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Cheese and Ham toastie?
Rice pud?
Ham 'n Eggs?
Omelette?
Bacon Sarnie?
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Some good ideas here!
This am. they had natural yoghurt and apricots & also toasted wholemeal muffin. It's officially "interesting breakfast 'week'"... :)
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Some good ideas here!
This am. they had natural yoghurt and apicots & also toasted wholemeal muffin. It's officially "interesting breakfast 'week'"... :)
What time's brekkie tomorrow?
;)
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Breakfasts round the world vary enormously; they mostly all work for those who consume them.
Miniao is 13 and should be able to fix own breakfast.
Maybe add some SCIENCE to the recipe:
Give mini freedom of kitchen; she can eat whatever she likes, within reason.
Mini must note what is eaten every morning.
Mini must also note the time she next feel hungry, what she then eats and when.
Mini will then learn what kind of breakfast 'works', which breakfast foods 'last' and whether these have any effect on schoolwork.
Afterthought:has mini become milk intolerant?
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Breakfast chez Jurek, most mornings:
Mango, bananananana, grapes, blue berries. All rolled in about (ok, this is where the no cereal bit might fail) three or four tbsp of reduced sugar Alpen. Avec milk.
As in borówki or jagody? Just curious! I find the former bland in comparison.
I didn't think it was either as borówki I've always known as cranberries, and jagody I've always known as the blackberries that grow prolifically in hedgerows throughout the UK.
However, I've just looked in the book of words and in there it states borówka amerykanska is in fact blueberry.
Yeah, borówki are the big, fat American blueberries (bilberries?) with the white flesh inside, which are also sold here, whereas jagody are small, almost black all the way through, sweet-bitter taste. They grow wild in forests in Poland and presumably elsewhere in northern Europe. A bit like blackberries, or jeżyny in fact, though they're a very different fruit.
Breakfasts round the world vary enormously; they mostly all work for those who consume them.
Idli-chutney - a kind of steamed rice cake with coconut sauce - or masala dosa both worked well for me in India, but I never got used to the rice with chickpea thing!
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*thinks back to age 13*
Nothing for breakfast proper but a sausage roll from the canteen at 10.30am (morning break), usually. Past the age of 11 or so I've always found eating a meal in the morning challenging. I tend not to be hungry until 9 or 10am so I eat breakfast at my desk now. At 13 it was in the classroom before school.
Phew. I was getting worried that I was the only one! Similarly, I stopped liking breakfast at the age of 12-13 - the compromise I came to with my parents was that I would have a very small yogurt or chocolate mousse (mostly air), and they wouldn't nag me.
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I think it was around that age I gave up on the compromise (since I was maybe 9 or 10?) yoghurt and did just fine on nothing until at least lunchtime, except perhaps a chocolate bar if I was doing something that required concentration. I don't get hungry until I start eating, though I'll start to feel a bit nauseous (though still not hungry) in the late afternoon if I don't.
I'm also suspicious that this is related to my tendancy towards being nocturnal: I can override my body by being awake in the morning, but my metabolism takes a while to catch up. Note that delayed sleep phase is natural and common in adolescents, and as a species they tend to be more functional if you go along with it...
These days I force myself to eat more regularly, because the build-up of excess bile causes horrible TMI bowel nastiness later if I don't. If I know I'm going to need energy (eg. for cycling), I'll bootstrap my hunger reflex with something easy like chocolate before making myself eat proper food.
Like most things food-related, I'm acutely aware that this makes me a) unhealthy and b) a freak - accepting this and learning not to care what other people think is however a work in progress.
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My old grandma gave my granpa a slice of porage from the porage drawer before he headed down the dockyard to work. Dunno if that counts as cereal or not?
(aka making porage very thick so you can pour it into a suitable container, let it cool, then cut a slice off...)
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Breakkie was and still is onion omelette type thing on toast.
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Observations on breakfast cereals - have a look at the amount of sugar in each - frightening amounts.
Cereals are heavily marketed as being "healthy" -its just marketing. They're highly processed foods, which must have a huge profit margin.
And look at the added vitamins claims - as far as I know this was mandatory, as breakfast cereals would have no vitamins at all. Advertising turns a necessity into a plus point - and we swallow it (pun intended).
Having said all of the above, I breakfast on Lizis Granola every morning. Low GI, no added sugar at all, and its quite delicious. Its the antithesis of the highly processed wheat in other breakfast cereals.
Talking about protein though - kippers are very cheap. Don't see a 13 year old eating them voluntarily though!
Bacon sarnies on the other hand....
Last programme I saw was over 1000%, it's normally a waste product of their other stuff especially stuff like special K.
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Was it "The Foods That Make Billions"?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/2010/11/the-foods-that-make-billions.shtml (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/tv/2010/11/the-foods-that-make-billions.shtml)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wk8gd (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00wk8gd)
They were about breakfast cereals, bottled water and yoghurt.
As to what to eat for breakfast, just eat whatever you eat for your other meals.