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Title: Film scores and Theme Tunes
Post by: fuzzy on 27 June, 2019, 10:56:56 pm: I had a lunchtime DVD watch today with my sandwiches and crisps and took in Book of Eli.

At the end of the film I was waiting for the cast credits to come up to check out a couple of actors whe I realised I was thoroughly enjoying the simple but effective music, basically a 4 note riff with a bit of piano accentuation.

I hadn't really thought much about film scores till then but there is a hell of a lot of work that goes into writing something that fits with the production.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHtNOTkbk9s

What film or TV music have you enjoyed in the past?
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Post by: Exit Stage Left on 27 June, 2019, 11:10:07 pm: Paris, Texas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd2EzQsZteA
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Post by: Mr Larrington on 28 June, 2019, 08:36:51 am: Much of Michael Nyman's film-related output, esp. the stuff he did for Peter Greenaway's fillums.
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Post by: T42 on 28 June, 2019, 09:30:16 am: There is a brief choral snatch in To the Ends of the Earth that always leaves me wanting more.
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Post by: pcolbeck on 28 June, 2019, 10:04:44 am: William Walton's music for the "The Battle of Britain" is great. It was a genius decision to show the climatic battle with no aero engine noise just his score. Shame the Yanks pulled the rest of his score from the film.
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Post by: citoyen on 20 August, 2019, 06:15:13 pm: In recent years, the soundtrack work of former Pop Will Eat Itself frontman Clint Mansell has been notable. His soundtrack for Moon was especially good - really added to the film.

And Jonny Greenwood off of Radiohead's soundtrack for Phantom Thread was pretty marvellous too.
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Post by: citoyen on 20 August, 2019, 06:20:32 pm: Quote from: Mr Larrington on 28 June, 2019, 08:36:51 am
Much of Michael Nyman's film-related output, esp. the stuff he did for Peter Greenaway's fillums.

:thumbsup:

I got into Michael Nyman's film music via Joby Talbot and Neil Hannon*, who worked together on some of the early Divine Comedy recordings (Talbot was a member of the band for a while). Both were heavily influenced by Nyman (check out Tonight We Fly, the closing track on The Divine Comedy's Promenade). Talbot went on to write the theme for League of Gentlemen. And Neil Hannon wrote the theme tune for Father Ted (which also appears as a version with words called Songs Of Love on his Casanova LP).

*strictly speaking, it was via a friend who was a fellow Divine Comedy fan and massive Greenaway obsessive.
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Post by: Jurek on 20 August, 2019, 06:25:17 pm: Quote from: citoyen on 20 August, 2019, 06:20:32 pm
Quote from: Mr Larrington on 28 June, 2019, 08:36:51 am
Much of Michael Nyman's film-related output, esp. the stuff he did for Peter Greenaway's fillums.

:thumbsup:

I got into Michael Nyman's film music via Joby Talbot and Neil Hannon*, who worked together on some of the early Divine Comedy recordings (Talbot was a member of the band for a while). Both were heavily influenced by Nyman (check out Tonight We Fly, the closing track on The Divine Comedy's Promenade). Talbot went on to write the theme for League of Gentlemen. And Neil Hannon wrote the theme tune for Father Ted (which also appears as a version with words called Songs Of Love on his Casanova LP).

*strictly speaking, it was via a friend who was a fellow Divine Comedy fan and massive Greenaway obsessive.
And another +1 for Michael Nyman's work for Peter Greenaway :thumbsup:

Little known fact:
My former home, during what have come to be known as The Peckham Years, was arranged courtesy of Peter Greenaway's PA and was located in the premises which were formerly the recording studios of The Mad Professor and the Ariwa Sounds label. We used to constantly get demo tapes in the post. :thumbsup:
A big plus if you are a fan of dub.
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Post by: andrewc on 20 August, 2019, 06:44:52 pm: Zbigniew Preisner's scores for Kieslowski are well worth a listen. As is "Requiem For My Friend".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bKSUlK-FgY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bKSUlK-FgY) & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v_Vtjo1kUg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v_Vtjo1kUg)

Edit. Oh bugger, that's done it. Three Colours marathon at the weekend.
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Post by: Jurek on 20 August, 2019, 07:15:13 pm: Quote from: andrewc on 20 August, 2019, 06:44:52 pm
Zbigniew Preisner's scores for Kieslowski are well worth a listen. As is "Requiem For My Friend".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bKSUlK-FgY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5bKSUlK-FgY) & https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v_Vtjo1kUg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2v_Vtjo1kUg)

Edit. Oh bugger, that's done it. Three Colours marathon at the weekend.
Yup! +1 :thumbsup:
The private life of Veronique, also.
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Post by: andrewc on 20 August, 2019, 07:23:16 pm: Quote from: Jurek on 20 August, 2019, 07:15:13 pm
Yup! +1 :thumbsup:
The private life of Veronique, also.

Is that the naughty version ?? :jurek:
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Post by: Jurek on 20 August, 2019, 07:44:37 pm: Quote from: andrewc on 20 August, 2019, 07:23:16 pm
Quote from: Jurek on 20 August, 2019, 07:15:13 pm
Yup! +1 :thumbsup:
The private life of Veronique, also.

Is that the naughty version ?? :jurek:
I'm unaware of a 'naughty' version of PL of V ???
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Post by: andrewc on 20 August, 2019, 07:48:38 pm: It’s the Double Life..... ;)
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Post by: Jurek on 20 August, 2019, 07:53:32 pm: Quote from: andrewc on 20 August, 2019, 07:48:38 pm
It’s the Double Life..... ;)
Ach!
You are correct, and have caught me out there :facepalm:
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Post by: fimm on 21 August, 2019, 09:21:30 am: Mr fimm is very into orchestral film music - John Williams obviously, but also Hans Zimmer and a man whose name I can't remember and lots of others
One track I always like when he plays it is from one of the "Transformers" films - it is very slow-moving and broad and doesn't sound like it is from that kind of film at all!
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Post by: Jaded on 21 August, 2019, 09:37:18 am: The music to Sicario.

Sadly the composer will compose no more.
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Post by: fuaran on 21 August, 2019, 10:07:20 am: +1 for Hans Zimmer. The Gladiator soundtrack is suitably epic.
https://youtu.be/kln605W1r3E
https://youtu.be/R9zxany7e10
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Post by: nicknack on 21 August, 2019, 10:14:12 am: Bullitt.

Oh

and Mission Impossible.
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Post by: Riggers on 21 August, 2019, 10:46:28 am: Quote from: Mr Larrington on 28 June, 2019, 08:36:51 am
Much of Michael Nyman's film-related output, esp. the stuff he did for Peter Greenaway's fillums.

I concur. Got into Nyman's 'stuff' when at art college. His 'Decay Music' is very minimalist and best listened to, alone, in a darkened room. Perfect!
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Post by: Peter on 21 August, 2019, 11:15:48 am: I agree about Paris Texas. Isn't there a dispute about how much is Ry Cooder and how much Arlen Roth?

But my favourite will probably always be Anton Karas's music for The Third Man.
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Post by: citoyen on 21 August, 2019, 12:19:44 pm: Quote from: Peter on 21 August, 2019, 11:15:48 am
But my favourite will probably always be Anton Karas's music for The Third Man.

The mere mention of which will ensure that everyone who reads this thread will have the main theme as an earworm for the rest of the day!
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Post by: Peter on 21 August, 2019, 01:18:22 pm: Happy to oblige, D!
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Post by: T42 on 21 August, 2019, 02:30:08 pm: Quote from: fuaran on 21 August, 2019, 10:07:20 am
+1 for Hans Zimmer. The Gladiator soundtrack is suitably epic.
https://youtu.be/kln605W1r3E
https://youtu.be/R9zxany7e10

Pinches a chunk of Holst/Mars, but who among them doesn't?

It's still a good antidote to The Third Man.
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Post by: Redlight on 22 August, 2019, 01:44:26 pm: Echo the praise for Michael Nyman's music. But the man himself... :-\ I went to a concert by him a few years ago. In the best part of two hours he did not address a single word to the audience or even acknowledge it apart from a bow at the beginning and another at the end. :facepalm:
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Post by: caerau on 22 August, 2019, 01:58:30 pm: My missus persuaded me to start watching that there distopian-horror show of a TV series- A Handmaid's Tale the other day.

Amongst the continuous horrific scenes (don't get me wrong, it's excellent in a kind of way that would have depressed George Orwell) - was a scene where one of the handmaids was giving birth. She was surrounded by others all giving a chorus of uniformly chanted advice....

"Breathe". "Breathe" "Breathe"

"Exhale". "Exhale". "Exhale"

Amongst the gloom it did occur to me that they missed a right trick in not giving this a Prodigy soundtrack during that scene :-D
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_PAHbqq-o4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_PAHbqq-o4))
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Post by: Mr Larrington on 23 August, 2019, 10:51:23 am: Quote from: Redlight on 22 August, 2019, 01:44:26 pm
Echo the praise for Michael Nyman's music. But the man himself... :-\ I went to a concert by him a few years ago. In the best part of two hours he did not address a single word to the audience or even acknowledge it apart from a bow at the beginning and another at the end. :facepalm:

You should try Godspeed You! Black Emperor. Not only do they not acknowledge the audience, they keep the stage lighting so dim you can't even be sure how many people there are in the current lineup, never mind who they are. Except Efrim Menuck, who can be pinpointed by the silhouette of his hair ;D
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Post by: fimm on 23 August, 2019, 11:26:33 am: Quote from: Redlight on 22 August, 2019, 01:44:26 pm
Echo the praise for Michael Nyman's music. But the man himself... :-\ I went to a concert by him a few years ago. In the best part of two hours he did not address a single word to the audience or even acknowledge it apart from a bow at the beginning and another at the end. :facepalm:
This sounds like a normal classical music concert to me. I don't expect musicians to speak! Those that do are the exception...
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Post by: Ham on 23 August, 2019, 01:14:52 pm: The latest has to be Good Omens, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_q57nJwt4A

Nyman's The Piano music haunts my soul, though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo9G9C6KvCE achieving as it does a perfect balance between sadness and optimism to a background of the relentless crashing of time over your head.
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Post by: T42 on 23 August, 2019, 02:12:25 pm: Quote from: Ham on 23 August, 2019, 01:14:52 pm
The latest has to be Good Omens, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_q57nJwt4A

The opening bar or two hint at a Harry Potter ancestry, but HP's spiritual daddy was The Witches of Eastwick: https://youtu.be/He6S6lNMUkU
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Post by: Redlight on 23 August, 2019, 04:09:09 pm: Quote from: fimm on 23 August, 2019, 11:26:33 am
Quote from: Redlight on 22 August, 2019, 01:44:26 pm
Echo the praise for Michael Nyman's music. But the man himself... :-\ I went to a concert by him a few years ago. In the best part of two hours he did not address a single word to the audience or even acknowledge it apart from a bow at the beginning and another at the end. :facepalm:
This sounds like a normal classical music concert to me. I don't expect musicians to speak! Those that do are the exception...

Yes, I appreciate that. I wasn't expecting Randy Newman-style repartee but I guess that as it was billed as "an evening with..." and he was solo, my expectation was that he might at least introduce the pieces.

I don't really think of his music as 'classical' either.
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Post by: hubner on 24 August, 2019, 08:28:04 pm: What no Ennio Morricone?!

Once Upon a Time in the West
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLnW6IBGINI
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Post by: Von Broad on 24 August, 2019, 08:43:35 pm: Quote from: Exit Stage Left on 27 June, 2019, 11:10:07 pm
Paris, Texas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sd2EzQsZteA

Yeah, Ry Cooder, love that.

Just posting from an initial instinct after reading the tread title is is the film/film score of 'The Conversation' by Frances Ford Coppola and music by David Shire. Love it. One of my all time favourite films..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-DKn1PQJQ4

Mixed with the dialogue and the visual, music can be so, so powerful.
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Post by: hubner on 24 August, 2019, 09:10:47 pm: Quote from: nicknack on 21 August, 2019, 10:14:12 am
Bullitt.

Oh

and Mission Impossible.

Dirty Harry!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3IPLsDxMxQ
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Post by: Steph on 28 August, 2019, 07:28:56 pm: 'The World at War', by Carl Davis, is incredibly powerful, and together with the slide show opening of each episode it is extremely effective.

Guilty pleasure: the sequence of Beethoven ripoffs that make up the score to "Where Eagles Dare'.

Even guiltier pleasure, following on from WED: 633 Squadron.
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Post by: Vince on 28 August, 2019, 08:35:14 pm: I don't think the work of Barry Gray has been surpassed.

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Post by: Steph on 28 August, 2019, 10:54:31 pm: Quote from: Vince on 28 August, 2019, 08:35:14 pm
I don't think the work of Barry Gray has been surpassed.

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Well, anything can happen in the next half hour
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Post by: T42 on 29 August, 2019, 01:40:14 pm: Quote from: hubner on 24 August, 2019, 08:28:04 pm
What no Ennio Morricone?!

Once Upon a Time in the West
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLnW6IBGINI

The Danish National Symphony Orchestra have done some great covers of Morricone's western music, e.g.

For a Few Dollars More: https://youtu.be/DT1NJwEi6nw

Wonderful sight, all the blokes in black tie plonking away on Jews' harps. The conductor can't keep her face straight at the beginning. I love the ocarina, too (though he hits at least one bum note). I have a pipeclay on my father gave me when I was 9, but it sounds like a bronchitic whistling kettle.

Lots more where that came from.
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Post by: citoyen on 29 August, 2019, 01:53:55 pm: My favourite Ennio Morricone is For A Few Dollars More, mainly because of the way it integrates the music box theme - especially in the final duel. Totally awesome.

Of course, Once Upon A Time In The West uses the harmonica theme to similar effect, but now every time I hear that, I just immediately think "What were the skies like when you were young?"

One of the really great thing about those films is not just the music but the silences. The opening scene and final duel in OUATITW being prime cases in point.
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Post by: fuzzy on 17 October, 2019, 11:11:31 pm: Mrs F has a penchant for documentaries about Hollywood greats. Tonight we watched Hollywoods Brightest Bombshell off that BBC4, about Hedy Lamarr.

There was a haunting track over the end credits which Mrs F cut short by deleting the programme. It intrigued me enough to seek it out-

She by Alice Phobe Lou.
Well worth a listen- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPH9j0qVM3A
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Post by: Exit Stage Left on 18 October, 2019, 09:38:00 am: 'Shaft' is obviously the best known 'Blaxploitation' theme. But I do like 'Car Wash'.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVH-wQY1HSI
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Post by: Torslanda on 27 October, 2019, 10:18:56 pm: 'The Quiller Memorandum' and 'The Ipcress File'.

'Edge of Darkness' and 'The Usual Suspects'

Guilty pleasure is 'The Italian Job'.

I have hidden shallows...