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Name for this type of shop?
« on: 20 February, 2018, 07:17:16 pm »
A shop that sells rope and canvas, not tents but canvas for covering trailer loads or making bags and they will custom make canvas products. They also sell knives and rope, canvas and string related products (snap rings etc). So a bit like a chandlers but not to do with boats but more to do with country based stuff.
I thought cordwainers for some reason but that's top do with making shoes it seems.

Is there a proper name for this kind of shop or profession?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

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Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #1 on: 20 February, 2018, 07:25:19 pm »
The local one here is called Montrose Rope and Sail, ( often deliberately spoonerised to Montrose Soap and Rail ) but I doubt they have made ropes or sails for many a year.

I'd google sailmaker and then look at what they actually make.

Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #2 on: 20 February, 2018, 07:27:26 pm »
The local one here is called Montrose Rope and Sail, but I doubt they have made ropes or sails for many a year.

I'd google sailmaker and then look at what they actually make.

Ahh sorry you misunderstand I dont need to find one but thanks.

We have a really smashing shop of this type in the nearest market town (Malton) but we were just wondering if such a very traditional shop had a generic name like butchers or greengrocers.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

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Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #3 on: 20 February, 2018, 07:28:36 pm »
Surely the correct approach is to stop mucking about on the internet and ask them?   ;)

Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #4 on: 20 February, 2018, 07:36:24 pm »
Surely the correct approach is to stop mucking about on the internet and ask them?   ;)

Don't think they are open after 5:00pm Kim, Malton is the sort of place where the shops are closed half day Monday and Saturday and all day Sunday still  :)
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

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Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #5 on: 20 February, 2018, 08:14:34 pm »
Ships' Chandler is the term I might use.

Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #6 on: 20 February, 2018, 08:49:47 pm »
this is exactly what I was thinking, then I doubted myself because I couldn't see what it had to do with candlemaking...

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Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #7 on: 20 February, 2018, 08:55:37 pm »
I see the OP had chandler in mind but rejected the idea.

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Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #8 on: 20 February, 2018, 09:02:21 pm »
I've no idea what you call it, but when I was small there was a shop in the market in town (called The Shambles though there hadn't been any butchers for... well I don't know how long but not then anyway) which sold and I think made rope. It had a wonderful smell of plant fibres. This was back when the shops in that part of town at least had early closing (IIRC it was Thursday) and late market day (IIRC Wednesday). The remarkable thing is this persisted into the last quarter of the 20th century.
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Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #9 on: 20 February, 2018, 09:06:25 pm »
Yacht chandler.
My nearest is
Arthur Beale in Neale Street, Covent Garden.

Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #10 on: 20 February, 2018, 09:07:11 pm »
A "draper" perhaps?

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Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #11 on: 20 February, 2018, 09:20:08 pm »
Drapers deal with 'soft' cloth, like curtains, clothes and upholstery, I thought

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Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #12 on: 20 February, 2018, 09:24:00 pm »
Theatrical chandler?
216km from Marsh Gibbon

Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #13 on: 20 February, 2018, 09:24:39 pm »
After a bit of googling, it looks as though the Derwent was navigable up to Malton (until the railways came), so ship's chandler is probably about right. I think there are a few canals around there as well.

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Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #14 on: 20 February, 2018, 09:37:12 pm »
I presume it's this place?
http://www.gwoodall.com/about-us/

So definitely not a ship's chandlers. They refer to a ropery but that's the place they used to make the rope (I thought that was a rope walk but maybe there are slight differences).
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Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #15 on: 20 February, 2018, 11:26:58 pm »
Yacht chandler.
My nearest is
Arthur Beale in Neale Street, Covent Garden.

I got my Union Flag there in 1981. It is still going strong.  :thumbsup:
It is simpler than it looks.

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Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #16 on: 21 February, 2018, 08:09:15 am »
A Tarpauliner?

Ok, I made that up, but I think it deserves to be added to the lexicon.
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Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #17 on: 21 February, 2018, 09:19:52 am »
Chandler isn't restricted to ships; that's why the marine article has ship's in front of it.  It did originally mean a supplier of candles but came to mean a supplier in general.  I'm none too sure it would be so understood these days, though.
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Re: Name for this type of shop?
« Reply #18 on: 21 February, 2018, 09:39:38 am »
I presume it's this place?
http://www.gwoodall.com/about-us/

So definitely not a ship's chandlers. They refer to a ropery but that's the place they used to make the rope (I thought that was a rope walk but maybe there are slight differences).

That's the one. It's a fantastic shop. If you are ever in Malton pop in. They have a lovely selection of edged tools as well (knives, scythes, axes and the like).
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.