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Pingu

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Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #200 on: 24 November, 2017, 10:50:07 pm »
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(I remember being very confused by this "province of Luxembourg" business  :facepalm:  ! )

We once stayed in the province of Luxembourg and rode to the country of Luxembourg and back. It had to be done  :)

Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 - 2018 Thu 6th Sep
« Reply #201 on: 25 November, 2017, 06:15:29 am »


(I remember being very confused by this "province of Luxembourg" business  :facepalm:  ! )

Well, this has been decided in London: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_London_(1839)

My hometown ended up on the 'wrong' side of the border due to this.

Zed43

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Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #202 on: 26 November, 2017, 11:37:09 am »
Is there a maximum number of riders for BoB? The registration page still refers to registration for the past event I hope?

Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #203 on: 26 November, 2017, 12:40:27 pm »
Details here:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fbordersofbelgium.weebly.com%2Finschrijving.html

Open from January 2018. Only 20 places available with sleep stops (at least initially), but apparently unlimited registration until the day before if you do without / organise your own.

Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #204 on: 27 November, 2017, 10:50:31 am »
Details here:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fbordersofbelgium.weebly.com%2Finschrijving.html

Open from January 2018. Only 20 places available with sleep stops (at least initially), but apparently unlimited registration until the day before if you do without / organise your own.

That is more or less correct.
I can go for 30 places at the locations we had in 2016.
I'm looking to increase the number of available places with sleep stops (dinner-shower-bed-breakfast-bagdrop) to 50 but that means  I have to change the locations we had in 2016. This gives me the opportunity to see if the BOB 2018 can go clockwise and not counterclockwise like in '14 and '16.
To accommodate more riders also means more people (volunteers) at the manned controls to preserve the same quality. I hope to finalise my search for good locations and volunteers in december, so I can open registrations by mid januari 2018.

Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #205 on: 27 November, 2017, 11:25:22 am »
I'm definitely interested in this ride, though won't be able to commit until mid-2018.
Assuming I make my own sleep/eat arrangements it sounds like I will be able to get a place, yes?

*fluffs up bivvy bag*

*adds Belgian beer rack to bike*

Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #206 on: 27 November, 2017, 01:16:12 pm »
I'm definitely interested in this ride, though won't be able to commit until mid-2018.
Assuming I make my own sleep/eat arrangements it sounds like I will be able to get a place, yes?

*fluffs up bivvy bag*

*adds Belgian beer rack to bike*

No problem. All BRMs in Belgium (so 200 up to 1000 km) are open for entry on the day of the event. Only extra's (like sleeping arrangements, bagdrop, ...) can have a closing date and/or be limited in numbers.
Entry fee for the "basic version" of the Borders of Belgium is 10 euro!

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Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #207 on: 27 November, 2017, 03:34:30 pm »
*fluffs up bivvy bag*
There's a Formule Un a few k from the route that makes an ideal sleep stop for the first night. Two of us used it: the first one arrived two hours ahead of me and left two hours ahead. Worked OK. Many riders seemed to go through the first night though. But a couple of hours kip and a wash make all the difference. (Not enough fr me to be quick enough so I was DNF, hence my interest in this again, but we'll see.)
Besides, it wouldn't be audacious if success were guaranteed.

Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #208 on: 27 November, 2017, 04:07:48 pm »
Thanks. Assuming I make the start I'll probably operate on an ad hoc 'plan' day to day booking or bivvying as I go depending on weather/issues and if I'm going for beers or rushing around.
Normally I might star a few places on my phone that'll be convenient or just something I want to look at. Which town is the Formula 1 in?

Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016 - 2018
« Reply #209 on: 18 January, 2018, 07:14:22 pm »
Registration for the 2018 edition (start thursday 6/9/18 at 14:00) opens this saturday 20/1/2018 at 10:00 (local time, so 9:00 GMT). There will be 50 places available with the full option. Options are a bed, shower and breakfast, a dinner and/or bagdrop (bag will be provided) on the 2 manned controls. First control will be around the 550 km mark (friday to saturday), the second around the 840 km point (saturday to sunday). On our website you'll find more info. The 2018 route will not be the same as the 2016 route, especially the second part of the route. 
https://bordersofbelgium2018en.weebly.com/

mmmmartin

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Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #210 on: 18 January, 2018, 09:12:55 pm »
. Which town is the Formula 1 in?
not sure, might have been Kortrijk. TBH I was a bit knackered by then. And it was dark. It was by a roundabout. Remember that most F1 places are full most nights, it's very hard to just rock up.
Besides, it wouldn't be audacious if success were guaranteed.

Zed43

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Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #211 on: 19 January, 2018, 08:49:30 am »
Anyone know how much the organized version is going to cost?
[edit]Full options (2 nights) come to 120 euro, including a medal; single B&B is 35 euro, diner 10, dropbag 5.

Got the confirmation email and payment has been made so I guess I'm committed  ;)
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There's also a small but important typo on the English version: it says the 2nd stop is "around the 640 km mark", Dutch and Flemish riders have their 2nd stop at 840km.

Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #212 on: 20 January, 2018, 09:48:40 am »
Entry now open.

Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #213 on: 20 January, 2018, 12:25:32 pm »
Anyone know how much the organized version is going to cost?
[edit]Full options (2 nights) come to 120 euro, including a medal; single B&B is 35 euro, diner 10, dropbag 5.

Got the confirmation email and payment has been made so I guess I'm committed  ;)
[/edit]

There's also a small but important typo on the English version: it says the 2nd stop is "around the 640 km mark", Dutch and Flemish riders have their 2nd stop at 840km.

Corrected! Thanks for pointing it out!

Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #214 on: 20 January, 2018, 10:17:09 pm »
Well it looks fantastic, so i’ve Just entered  :thumbsup:

Will sort out payments tomorrow, better start riding my bike again!  :)

Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #215 on: 21 January, 2018, 03:19:14 pm »
Unless I can find me a sponsor or a sugar daddy, I shan’t be riding. Which is a huge shame as it’s by far and away the best ride I’ve ever done.

Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #216 on: 21 January, 2018, 05:15:49 pm »
Sorry dale, can’t help you there :)

Are clip-on aero bars allowed on this ride?  I know they aren’t for PBP, but didn’t see it in the ACP rules...

Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #217 on: 21 January, 2018, 08:40:39 pm »
Allowed I believe? I wish I had them on the last one, the canal stretches are... *waves hand aimlessly* dull? Not the right word as I loved it but would have been nice to take the weight off. I rode with my forearms on the tops for a long while, which I think there’s pictures of.

Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #218 on: 21 January, 2018, 10:15:06 pm »
Aero bars are not forbidden during BRM rides, not forbidden by Belgian law, so not forbidden during BOB.

Zed43

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Re: Borders of Belgium 1000km - 2018
« Reply #219 on: 22 January, 2018, 01:35:19 pm »
Speaking of traffic laws, are using earbuds (music) while riding a bicycle allowed in Belgium? (not in France I believe, ie a no-go for PBP?)

And another question about rules: are the opening/closing times of (commercial) controls to be strictly obeyed, or can you make up for arriving late at a control as long as you finish within the allotted 75 hours? In my experience some organisers follow the ACP rules on this to the letter while others take a more relaxed approach :)

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Re: Borders of Belgium 1000km - 2018
« Reply #220 on: 22 January, 2018, 02:24:16 pm »
Speaking of traffic laws, are using earbuds (music) while riding a bicycle allowed in Belgium? (not in France I believe, ie a no-go for PBP?)

I'd be interested to hear the rules as far as this too.

In July we went on holiday to Valkenswaard and nightly after putting the boys to bed I would head out on my bike. I went to to Belgium every time and rode along the canal on a couple of days. Music was great to keep me motivated as the light faded. I rode mostly on cycle paths and do not think I spotted any police.
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Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #221 on: 22 January, 2018, 03:23:19 pm »
Sorry dale, can’t help you there :)

Are clip-on aero bars allowed on this ride?  I know they aren’t for PBP, but didn’t see it in the ACP rules...

In 2016 there was a guy with some preposterous swan-neck things. He was a menace to ride anywhere near. I'll see if I have a photo when I get home

Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #222 on: 22 January, 2018, 03:27:18 pm »
Sorry dale, can’t help you there :)

Are clip-on aero bars allowed on this ride?  I know they aren’t for PBP, but didn’t see it in the ACP rules...

In 2016 there was a guy with some preposterous swan-neck things. He was a menace to ride anywhere near. I'll see if I have a photo when I get home

Mine are short & I only use them when solo, on the front, or riding next to someone I know on a straight open toad!

money paid, time booked off work & the start of a training plan coming together.  Am looking forward to this :thumbsup:

Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #223 on: 22 January, 2018, 05:27:03 pm »

Zed43

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Re: Borders of Belgium 1000 2016
« Reply #224 on: 22 January, 2018, 05:49:02 pm »
incredible :facepalm: makes you wonder whether he could bent enough to reach his brakes...