They've scheduled it at the same time as University Challenge, the eejits!
They've scheduled it at the same time as University Challenge, the eejits!
How did York do tonight, by the way? I only caught the end and saw that York were on.
I'll definitely watch the show. It's about time. I imagine, though, that it'll be aimed at beginners and a general audience, so the TV equivalent of Cycling Plus.
I'm going to. Even if it is a bit top gear like. In fact. Imagine Hayles and Co challenging Clarkson and co to a double-header. The cycle-boys take on the car-boyos in a reasonably priced car and the car boyos have to give it a go on the rollers.... ;DYou're giving me visions of Jeremy Clarkson doing two laps of an airfield on a reasonably-priced BSO...
d try to remember that not everyone is all that bothered about the correct way to thread the leather straps on Carradice saddlebags.Why the hell not? It's important!
d try to remember that not everyone is all that bothered about the correct way to thread the leather straps on Carradice saddlebags.Why the hell not? It's important!
For pete's sakes, people need to get a sense of proportion, stop waffling about 'helmets', undertaking tipper lorries driven by homicidal maniacs, and start looking into the really important matters.
Cotton duck
Quill stems
Reynolds tubing
These are the things that made the British Empire the Great British Empire.
Maybe a bit of pedal-powered Top Gear wouldn't actually a bad thing?
I mean, those of us with an advanced interest in pingfuckits or Carradice threading are always going to find better quality information and discussion on the interweb.
A bit of light-hearted bikey fun (with a spattering of useful info for beginners) could be just the thing.
The discussion of ping-fuckit alloy grades and so-on is NOT best suited to the TV format. Some light-hearted discussion, good visual stuff etc IS.Maybe a bit of pedal-powered Top Gear wouldn't actually a bad thing?
I mean, those of us with an advanced interest in pingfuckits or Carradice threading are always going to find better quality information and discussion on the interweb.
A bit of light-hearted bikey fun (with a spattering of useful info for beginners) could be just the thing.
That's true. I don't want dull and earnest. I would want light-hearted bikey fun. When I say I don't want it to be to bikes what Top Gear is to cars, I mean... well, Top Gear is mainly about the presenters showing off these days, isn't it? Some bike content would be good.
Just saw it.. was pretty good!
Better than I thought it would be.
Just saw it.. was pretty good!
Better than I thought it would be.
You just have to be joking .... 100% unadulterated crap.
Obree ? what was he saying? - Mansell ? - why was he there? - just kept on using the Cav word "incredible" ... and Fisher ... what was that all about ... the only bit of remote value was Wayne Hemingway.
Totally out of touch ...
Rob
Bugger. I forgot. :facepalm:
OK. Never used the ITV player (I mean. Why on earth would I?) No idea how to find it. I assume it's reasonably intuitive. ???
Oh hang on. Is that the one you have to sign up for and then start receiving a zillion ITV e-mails a day which, even though you've used your junk e-mail account, is still bloody annoying?
Just like in the TdF thread, I'm reminded that the British are never happier than when they have someone or something to moan about. :demon:
I think it hit it's target audience.
We are not it's target audience. It reminded me a bit of the early days of the SKY football show, you know the one, where they sit around on the sofa and chat about football, then have a penalty shootout at the end.
I like the idea of the roller run off, do you think Obree was holding back or Fisher was giving his all?
I thought they might do something on utility cycling when we saw Bobbin Bicycles, as they sell loads of bikes/clothing/accessories more suited to that kind of cycling. I’m seeing lots more people on sturdy Dutch-style bikes in ‘normal’ clothes these days (though nowhere near as many as I saw in Paris at the weekend). Perhaps in a later episode.
I don't want a special-interest programme for anoraks that's basically 30 minutes about spoke lacing...I quite liked the way that Maurice Burton was building a wheel without this ever being mentioned. Enough to pique the curiosity?
The chat on the couch bits were a bit cringey. Nigel Mansell is as dull as ever, but it was quite amusing watching Graeme Obree and Gary Fisher trying to out-mad each other! :P
Perhaps we should suggest to the show that the rolapaluza thing could be used in the same vein as the TG Star in a reasonably priced car?
Bugger. I forgot. :facepalm:
I did like Alan Davies' comment about mudguards, though :thumbsup:
It's definitely getting better <SNIP>
I'm looking forward to the hour-long ones.
I also think that they should make LMNH cough up some cash so they can actually say where they are and not pretend it's "Their cycle cafe"
I also think that they should make LMNH cough up some cash so they can actually say where they are and not pretend it's "Their cycle cafe"Thanks. As a non-Londoner, I didn't recognise Look Mum No Hands. I've now tracked it down and put it on the "to visit" list.
Do they film it live, or is it recorded? It's not obvious to my untrained eye, and I haven't really watched it with that in mind. If it's live, maybe YACF should pop down that day/time for adrinking sessionsocial meeting. ;D
I also think that they should make LMNH cough up some cash so they can actually say where they are and not pretend it's "Their cycle cafe"On http://www.lookmumnohands.com/ (http://www.lookmumnohands.com/) -
The cycle show is filmed in the cafe every week on Sunday afternoon / evenings. This weeks guests are Ned Boulting, Rik Waddon and Dan Craven We kick off at about midday. All welcome.Quote
So . . . not exactly a secret.
I enjoyed this week's again.
I enjoyed it again this week and wasn't this edition longer than previous ones?
I enjoyed it again this week and wasn't this edition longer than previous ones?
Yes, it's an hour now instead of 30 mins, hence my comments regarding this :)
I like the 1 hour long format, it allows them to do the same number of articles but assign more time to them, thus allowing them to do them properly!
The 2 commuting articles were good and the interviews are getting better as they seem less rushed and forced.
The one hour becomes 45 minutes on replay, without the ads.
I really, really want a go at BMX now. And I think i'm slightly in love with Anna whatserface.Anna "ride on the pavement" Glowinski.
I thought it was a bit London-centric
but, hey, it's an hour devoted to cycling of all sorts on mainstream TV.
I really, really want a go at BMX now. And I think i'm slightly in love with Anna whatserface.Anna "ride on the pavement" Glowinski.
I suspect the research team is also pretty young - the item this week on the cycle park/gym place in Soho was introduced as if it were a completely new concept when, with the exception of the gym aspect, it has been around for a couple of decades to my knowledge (remember Bikepark in Covent Garden, anyone?).
... and, as AndyK pointed out, they also thought that cyclists' cafes were a new concept.
I really, really want a go at BMX now. And I think i'm slightly in love with Anna whatserface.Anna "ride on the pavement" Glowinski.
Sadly, she is the weakest member of the presentation team and rather looks to be the token woman, which is a shame as she obviously is a genuine cyclist. She has potential and is comfortable on camera, but needs to slow down a little and learn to develop her own voice rather than, as it seems, try to recite the script. That's just down to age and experience.
I really, really want a go at BMX now. And I think i'm slightly in love with Anna whatserface.Anna "ride on the pavement" Glowinski.
Sadly, she is the weakest member of the presentation team and rather looks to be the token woman, which is a shame as she obviously is a genuine cyclist. She has potential and is comfortable on camera, but needs to slow down a little and learn to develop her own voice rather than, as it seems, try to recite the script. That's just down to age and experience.
My bold.
Don't forget the cool calm commuter facet that is presented by another female- VeloGirl (or similar tag) the very fashion oriented black lady. A nice indication that it ain't all about the lycra.
(what does AQI mean?)
... You can tell Anna isn’t quite comfortable with presenting, in fact her awkwardness reminds me of myself on the rare occasion I’m stuck in front of a camera, so I hope she’ll get better because I find her quite hard to watch at the moment. ...
Does anyone else remember the first series of Top Gear?
Does anyone else remember the first series of Top Gear?
Does anyone else remember the first series of Top Gear?
:hand:
stay on topic,don't allow this thread to drift to that topic
That's right? It's become very popular with the yoof today? Not only does it make them harder to listen to? But it makes them sound uncertain of what they speak, which is unhelpful when they're presenting factual stuff for our consumption?
(what does AQI mean?)
Australian Questioning Intonation? When people turn every sentence into a question by making it go up at the end?
It's Anna's slight lack of naturalness in front of the camera that makes me think she's cyclist first, presenter second. And I rather like that, tbh.
Joff Summerfield has mentioned on FB that he will be on the next edition.
Comparison of folding bikes that didn't compare the folding procedures or price was a bit poorly thought out I thought. ...
I didn't realise Jeff Banks was a cat 1 in his day.
Rob's folder piece was a bit rubbish. He should have a least ranked them rather than just saying "I quite like this one". And mentioned the price. And fold size. And....
"No, Jeff, you don't need £6 million to run a Pro women's team. It's only £450,000. How about it?"If I win Euromillions, I'll be sponsoring women's cycling. :D
"No, Jeff, you don't need £6 million to run a Pro women's team. It's only £450,000. How about it?"If I win Euromillions, I'll be sponsoring women's cycling. :D
I would have liked to see them fold and unfold all the folders. That's when you'd see that the Mezzo's front wheel has to come out of the dropout and it is a potentially unsafe design.
Endured the whole of last week's show. Should be named the London Cycle Show. Or at least the Urban Cycle Show. Where was the countryside ? The Dawes Galaxies ? The drum ups ? Obviously not cool enough. That they've chosen to present it from a wannabe cool and trendy coffee shop in the middle of London says it all. Compare and contrast The Adventure Show.
London - £2,731
South-east of England - £792
East Midlands - £311
West Midlands - £269
Yorkshire and Humberside - £201
North-west of England - £134
Eastern England - £43
South-west of England - £19
North-east of England - £5
Ooh. Hopefully the Russell T Davies episodes, with Ben and the sheep with the wellies...
The London bit probably partly relates to that, and like it or not, it is the capital city, so it's always going to be easier to get guests
The London bit probably partly relates to that, and like it or not, it is the capital city, so it's always going to be easier to get guests
That will be London celebrity guests then. For me this programme will only gain credibility when it starts sharing its sofa with the likes of George Berwick.
The London bit probably partly relates to that, and like it or not, it is the capital city, so it's always going to be easier to get guests
That will be London celebrity guests then. For me this programme will only gain credibility when it starts sharing its sofa with the likes of George Berwick.
Sometimes i wonder if my posts go entirely unread or whether people just have their grumpy boots on? ::-)
Surely you can lay off a bit and give them some credit for their efforts? As i understand it they're a bunch of small fish who've developed and made a handful of TV shows, not global uberfuhrermeisters!
Mind you, i wish they'd do something about our bins, it's a bloody disgrace that is! And what are they making tv programmes about bloody cycling for anyway?
:demon:
Waiting patiently for the YACF pedantic moan-fest that usually follows any cycling on TV.
I think we should all prepare for the TV show by taking 30 minutes to relax, breathe deeply and try to remember that not everyone is all that bothered about the correct way to thread the leather straps on Carradice saddlebags. (I suppose this could be covered by a James May character if we are making a Top Gear analogy).
Ooh. Hopefully the Russell T Davies episodes, with Ben and the sheep with the wellies...
Crikey, I worked on some of those. #old
Can one watch the Vipond turn himself inside out on YouTube?
That would be this Mr Vipond at the hairpins on the Cairn O'Mount..?Massively OT ramble:
Worn BB= New pedals? Where was that service, Halfrauds?
I remain disappointed about the lack of Dawes Galaxies and cotton duck but it was nevertheless quite watchable.
I think this edition has been the best yet. The balance seems to be developing and the regular presenters seem to be settling in and becoming more comfortable in their roles.
Anyone feel slightly uneasy watching Kristian House descending the Stelvio pass?
I didn't realise Jeff Banks was a cat 1 in his day.
Don't watch it then.
Don't watch it then.
It's been that uninteresting I've forgotten it's on every Monday and watched the next day on catch up. If it was that good I wouldn't forget it's on. Not everyone is a mamil or roadie. If they want to appeal to a wider audience then they need to switch the content from 75% sport to 75% transport.
Don't watch it then.
It's been that uninteresting I've forgotten it's on every Monday and watched the next day on catch up. If it was that good I wouldn't forget it's on. Not everyone is a mamil or roadie. If they want to appeal to a wider audience then they need to switch the content from 75% sport to 75% transport.
I'm not sure I agree. If Top Gear was all about Ford Fiestas, VW Polos and Hyundai i20s, and the best technique for booking a ticket on National Express buses, I doubt it would get many viewers. Equally, while cycling for transport may be very worthy, it's not very sexy and is unlikely to inspire great TV. There's a place for it, and I think it actually gets a fair bit of coverage, but the interesting stuff that will get the enthusiasts tuning in is competitive, fast, skilful, unusual, and colourful.
I'm not sure how anyone could conclude that normal cycling gets 'a fair bit of coverage'. ???
The trouble with "Cycling as transport" is that it's a non-subject really. You just get on your bike and go to wherever you're going. That's it. The end. In fact, that's the beauty of it - its simplicity. It doesn't need a TV programme
I think many people who drive cars or use buses/trains getting to work would be interested in the cycle vs. car vs. bus type challenge, but equally they might be put off if shown some of the helmet cam stuff posted here and elsewhere.
A piece on crap cycle lanes might be amusing and shame one or two councils though. Or showing how difficult it is to get your bike actually on a train on the commuter lines.
They could do interviews asking why people actually prefer to cycle to work in London , just to show that they are are normal human beings, not Olympic level athletes.
I think many people who drive cars or use buses/trains getting to work would be interested in the cycle vs. car vs. bus type challenge, but equally they might be put off if shown some of the helmet cam stuff posted here and elsewhere.
A piece on crap cycle lanes might be amusing and shame one or two councils though. Or showing how difficult it is to get your bike actually on a train on the commuter lines.
They could do interviews asking why people actually prefer to cycle to work in London , just to show that they are are normal human beings, not Olympic level athletes.
I think it's better not to show crap cycle lanes or how difficult things may be.
First, show some footage of how easy and cost efficient it is to cycle into London a couple of miles, get people commuting.
(How many short journeys, by bike, into the congestion charge zone, would it take to pay for a decent bike?)
Secondly, when many more people have invested in the commuting idea, rally them into demanding improvements.
I think many people who drive cars or use buses/trains getting to work would be interested in the cycle vs. car vs. bus type challenge, but equally they might be put off if shown some of the helmet cam stuff posted here and elsewhere.
A piece on crap cycle lanes might be amusing and shame one or two councils though. Or showing how difficult it is to get your bike actually on a train on the commuter lines.
They could do interviews asking why people actually prefer to cycle to work in London , just to show that they are are normal human beings, not Olympic level athletes.
I think it's better not to show crap cycle lanes or how difficult things may be.
First, show some footage of how easy and cost efficient it is to cycle into London a couple of miles, get people commuting.
(How many short journeys, by bike, into the congestion charge zone, would it take to pay for a decent bike?)
Secondly, when many more people have invested in the commuting idea, rally them into demanding improvements.
I predict such a program would have very few viewers:
- Your typical YACFer or regular cyclist will quickly get bored of it.
- Why would a non-cyclist feel the urge to watch it in the first place?
The trouble with "Cycling as transport" is that it's a non-subject really. You just get on your bike and go to wherever you're going. That's it. The end. In fact, that's the beauty of it - its simplicity. It doesn't need a TV programme.
I appreciate that shows like this don't exist purely for my benefit, but I really don't need some knob telling me how to ride a bike from A to B. Whilst wearing a helmet no doubt.
I do on the other hand enjoy watching things like the Stelvio piece...
At the moment all those things are just brief asides to all the boring sport talk.
The over-emphasis on cycle sport is a massive turn off for the majority of cyclists, because they simply don't associate themselves with racing, road bikes, or lycra.
Does anyone know where the cafe stop on the Essex lanes feature was? The one with the cycling memorabilia.
It is indeed - I visited for the first time on Tomsk's Flitchbikes Audax. Damn fine cake! And bacon sarnies...But the Flitchbikes event didn't go to Great Bardfield ???