Post by: j_a_m_e_s_ on 07 November, 2018, 01:46:37 pm
Midlander on Sunday 2nd December (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/19-165/)
Is this a new route? Anybody have any ideas?
I'm toying with the idea of ECEing through the night for 3points. Return train fare back to Marylebone a snip at £5.50
Post by: whosatthewheel on 07 November, 2018, 03:08:01 pm
https://www.strava.com/routes/16036582
Personally I would avoid the A46 and once in Hampton Lucy, fork south West, take a bit of A 439 and then converge at Snitterfield... probably 1 km longer, or maybe less, but on balance the A439 is less deadly than the A46
Post by: Philip Whiteman on 07 November, 2018, 03:11:35 pm
I've mapped it here
https://www.strava.com/routes/16036582
Personally I would avoid the A46 and once in Hampton Lucy, fork south West, take a bit of A 439 and then converge at Snitterfield... probably 1 km longer, or maybe less, but on balance the A439 is less deadly than the A46
A46! How the hell did that pass a risk assessment? I know of at least three cyclists killed whilst riding events on that road.
Whosatthewheel's alternative is far more appropriate.
Post by: whosatthewheel on 07 November, 2018, 03:18:25 pm
The A46 is problematic, as it's slightly uphill and you have to turn right with traffic behind you doing 60+ mph... sticking your right arm out is not going to command much respect...
Post by: j_a_m_e_s_ on 07 November, 2018, 03:26:45 pm
I've mapped it here
https://www.strava.com/routes/16036582
Personally I would avoid the A46 and once in Hampton Lucy, fork south West, take a bit of A 439 and then converge at Snitterfield... probably 1 km longer, or maybe less, but on balance the A439 is less deadly than the A46
Cheers.
I think an extra 1km, or maybe more, would be okay. I do tend to value my life.
Post by: whosatthewheel on 07 November, 2018, 03:35:23 pm
Post by: eddum on 09 November, 2018, 11:58:08 am
I've mapped it here
https://www.strava.com/routes/16036582
Personally I would avoid the A46 and once in Hampton Lucy, fork south West, take a bit of A 439 and then converge at Snitterfield... probably 1 km longer, or maybe less, but on balance the A439 is less deadly than the A46
Cheers.
I think an extra 1km, or maybe more, would be okay. I do tend to value my life.
400m on a wide open section of the a46 with a hatched right turn... or the same on a much tighter section of the a439 taking the lane to turn right on a Sunday with the usual tourist traffic getting into Stratford....
In my experience that section of the a439 is far more unpleasant than the alternative a46.
Post by: whosatthewheel on 09 November, 2018, 03:15:13 pm
In my experience that section of the a439 is far more unpleasant than the alternative a46.
Neither is nice.
A 439 is downhill, you move at 25 mph, traffic moves at 40-50, relatively easy to pull out and turn right
A 46 is uphill, you move at 10-15 mph, traffic moves at 60-70, riskier to pull out and turn right
It could well be that I am used to the A 439 and no longer see it as a danger, whereas I have only used the A 46 once and felt a bit threatened by fast moving lorries
Post by: JonBuoy on 09 November, 2018, 04:40:53 pm
Post by: Jethro on 10 November, 2018, 11:46:17 am
Post by: whosatthewheel on 10 November, 2018, 12:21:48 pm
Tried all three of those recommendations at some point and now prefer to avoid the A46 for the above reasons. I think JonBuoy's suggestion is perhaps the best option.
Agree, although I am surprised it's only 1 km longer
Post by: whosatthewheel on 10 November, 2018, 06:29:09 pm
https://www.strava.com/routes/16036582
Post by: j_a_m_e_s_ on 15 November, 2018, 12:10:20 pm
Revised the route, thanks Jon Buoy... :thumbsup:
https://www.strava.com/routes/16036582
Well I'm all signed up, ECE booked, train booked.
Post by: Lee Killestein on 20 November, 2018, 08:49:53 am
Post by: whosatthewheel on 20 November, 2018, 09:01:58 am
Is it just me? When I load the official GPX file into RWGPS it comes up as 210km? Thought this was a BP :facepalm:Yes, it's two laps of the same 106 km route. I re-designed mine to contain only one lap, then I made a few changes to avoid the A roads... you can probably download the route from the link. The changes won't affect controls and the info
https://www.strava.com/routes/16036582
Post by: Lee Killestein on 20 November, 2018, 03:00:36 pm
Is it just me? When I load the official GPX file into RWGPS it comes up as 210km? Thought this was a BP :facepalm:Yes, it's two laps of the same 106 km route. I re-designed mine to contain only one lap, then I made a few changes to avoid the A roads... you can probably download the route from the link. The changes won't affect controls and the info
https://www.strava.com/routes/16036582
Ok, thanks. I don’t mind the short stretch of A46 that I think you were trying to avoid, so I’ll just trim off the second lap. Most likely ECE from Coventry so it’ll be a 200 anyway! :)
Post by: eddum on 21 November, 2018, 01:32:14 pm
Ok, thanks. I don’t mind the short stretch of A46 that I think you were trying to avoid, so I’ll just trim off the second lap. Most likely ECE from Coventry so it’ll be a 200 anyway! :)
Just working my logistics here with cocktails in Kenilworth planned Saturday night what could go wrong... also tempted to ride over/back from Cov or Ken ! :thumbsup:
Post by: ianrobo on 22 November, 2018, 04:37:10 pm
Post by: vistaed on 28 November, 2018, 09:09:34 pm
Post by: whosatthewheel on 02 December, 2018, 03:59:47 pm
Huge portion of beans on toast at the arrivee
Post by: ianrobo on 02 December, 2018, 04:33:28 pm
Lovely day out, breezy but bright... very flat and fast route, made faster by having both controls manned. A cunning no-tea strategy means I was first back... therefore according to the rules I won. right? ;D ;D
Huge portion of beans on toast at the arrivee
and you seemed to be enjoying them as I arrived second !!
Post by: JohnL on 02 December, 2018, 04:42:22 pm
.....no-tea strategy....
Wh......Wh......Wh.......What????
Good grief. Surely you were disqualified? I see a stiff letter to the committee coming on.....
Post by: whosatthewheel on 02 December, 2018, 05:20:14 pm
.....no-tea strategy....
Wh......Wh......Wh.......What????
Good grief. Surely you were disqualified? I see a stiff letter to the committee coming on.....
Had tea at the end though... so all is well... :thumbsup:
Post by: whosatthewheel on 02 December, 2018, 05:21:16 pm
and you seemed to be enjoying them as I arrived second !!
Nothing better than plant based carbs, Ian... ;) :thumbsup:
Post by: ianrobo on 02 December, 2018, 05:37:23 pm
and you seemed to be enjoying them as I arrived second !!
Nothing better than plant based carbs, Ian... ;) :thumbsup:
I just had a lovely large gammon steAk
Post by: Jethro on 03 December, 2018, 10:59:36 am
Post by: whosatthewheel on 03 December, 2018, 12:25:39 pm
Rather enjoyed that apart from being massively overdressed and very, very lucky with the weather. Felt a few spots of rain every so often but nothing more than that thankfully. Did most of the ride with Bob Scarle and John (trike) from West Midlands Randonneurs and also a couple of ladies, one of whom it was her first Audax. We all took a good time at the cafe controls and enjoyed the ride socially. Many thanks to Jim Lee and his team from Midland C & AC for putting it all together.
Would have been nice to meet, especially as I was there at 8:30 in front of the cafe', there was a good bunch of us... we then realised at 9 AM that the organiser was in the car park instead... so then it was a case of rushing to get a card and working out what the info was about...
Rode to Evesham with VistaEd, then did a solo ride with mostly tail wind. Took the diversion advised above to avoid the A46, which was great... overall far more fun than one could reasonably expect out of a BP in December, really
Post by: j_a_m_e_s_ on 03 December, 2018, 06:30:55 pm
I left at about 2030hrs to ride up, got about 25km in and realised that I couldn't deal with 12hrs inside my own head that night. Physically, I felt good, but mentally I just didn't have the reserves left.
Got home at 2245 and went straight to bed.
I'll try again next year.
Post by: ianrobo on 03 December, 2018, 06:35:15 pm
Unfortunately, there is no safe way to go from Hampton Lucy to Snitterfield... the A439 is the least worst... the number of HGV is relatively small, especially on sundays.
The A46 is problematic, as it's slightly uphill and you have to turn right with traffic behind you doing 60+ mph... sticking your right arm out is not going to command much respect...
So I basically got to the brow of the hill waited over to one side for a gap and crossed, no real issue