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Title: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: swiss hat on 13 July, 2017, 10:06:41 am
These always popular events are now listed in the AUK calendar for your delectation. The usual Chalfont St Peter start location with no mod cons sleeping available on the Friday night by prior arrangement with the Organiser.

A few entries have already been received - please keep them coming.

I shall be taking over from Paul for the 2017 edition of the events. I hope to maintain the high standards that he has established  :thumbsup:

Martin L

Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: danrough on 20 July, 2017, 01:51:52 pm
Just put my entry in. I hope that the AAAnfractous will be the last in my GdS SR series :)
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: TigaSefi on 05 August, 2017, 06:55:15 pm
I am in too. Just deciding which of the 2 200km I want to do ...
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: ian_oli on 11 August, 2017, 11:26:53 pm
I have just acquired a Spurs season ticket and unfortunately for Audaxing they are playing at home that day. If you want someone to ride the route as a check close to the event do let me know.
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: swiss hat on 12 August, 2017, 10:28:40 am
I have just acquired a Spurs season ticket and unfortunately for Audaxing they are playing at home that day. If you want someone to ride the route as a check close to the event do let me know.

Commiserations on the season ticket  ;) 

Yes it would be great if you could help with the route checking. Sent you a pm.
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: Greenbank on 11 September, 2017, 09:14:25 pm
Entered the Nyctophobic as I haven't managed to do a single Audax yet this year (I was busy for the usual 2 that I do each year).

Being out in the evening with the in-laws is a convenient excuse for not doing one of the 200s, which is good because I'm horrendously unfit.

May bring the fixed though, just to give me something to swear at.
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: Manotea on 11 September, 2017, 09:50:57 pm
The Butty D'Or* awaits you.

Or rather a Butty D'Argent for the Nycto

*Free Bacon Butty for Fixers scoring a clear round (no foot faults) on a 70" gear.  It's a few years old now but it was vacuum packed so should be ok...
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: Chris S on 11 September, 2017, 10:11:20 pm
May bring the fixed though, just to give me something to swear at.

I bet I'm more unfit that yous. :)

It's almost worth the trip down the A1 for it! Pompinos at dawn. (Yeah I know, you have a Condor).
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: Greenbank on 12 September, 2017, 08:40:16 am
I bet I'm more unfit that yous. :)

I cycled further in a single day in 2016 than I have cycled so far in the whole of 2017.

(Just 462.3km so far in 2017.)
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: RichForrest on 12 September, 2017, 11:12:01 am
May bring the fixed though, just to give me something to swear at.

I bet I'm more unfit that yous. :)

It's almost worth the trip down the A1 for it! Pompinos at dawn. (Yeah I know, you have a Condor).

Thinking about this on fixed also  ;D
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: swiss hat on 14 October, 2017, 10:03:57 am
A total of 95 riders on the road for the three events. A good autumn day in store I think with the sun breaking through later perhaps. Thanks to Liam and Ian for helping at Chalfont this morning and Nick at the Benson control.

Now to fry the sausages and make the lentil & tomato soup.

Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 14 October, 2017, 02:22:28 pm
Just put my entry in. I hope that the AAAnfractous will be the last in my GdS SR series :)

Impressive stuff. Finishing a AAA SR on the 14th day of the season.
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: j_a_m_e_s_ on 14 October, 2017, 09:36:08 pm
Just put my entry in. I hope that the AAAnfractous will be the last in my GdS SR series :)

Impressive stuff. Finishing a AAA SR on the 14th day of the season.

Unless I'm mistaken, GdS year runs Jan-Dec.

So I'm home. Two emergency pit stops sapped any desire I had to finish my ECE, so I rode straight home.
Shame, because I feel fine. It's a mental failing more than anything.
Not gonna let it spoil what was an absolutely brilliant day. Good route, good weather, great company throughout.
Double helpings of beans on toast was well appreciated at the end!
I've thoroughly enjoyed myself.
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: TigaSefi on 14 October, 2017, 09:53:54 pm
good day out though that A40 was hairy to say the least. one more in November for RRTY number 2
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: Wycombewheeler on 14 October, 2017, 09:58:21 pm
J_a_m_e_s

You are of course right. You wrote gds but I was thinking AAA.
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: Martin on 14 October, 2017, 10:46:33 pm
Just put my entry in. I hope that the AAAnfractous will be the last in my GdS SR series :)

Impressive stuff. Finishing a AAA SR on the 14th day of the season.

Unless I'm mistaken, GdS year runs Jan-Dec.

So I'm home. Two emergency pit stops sapped any desire I had to finish my ECE, so I rode straight home.

I presume you are the James I emailed? shame about the non ECE

I was entered on the AAAnfractuous but I've had a nagging and painful Achilles for 6 weeks and 3 200s now not helped by an ECE of my own event with Cob Lane at 80k last weekend, so hoping to get back on the double RRTY train with the South of Bucks Winter Warmer and South of Gibraltar Winter Even Warmer
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: j_a_m_e_s_ on 15 October, 2017, 07:55:23 am

I presume you are the James I emailed? shame about the non ECE

I was entered on the AAAnfractuous but I've had a nagging and painful Achilles for 6 weeks and 3 200s now not helped by an ECE of my own event with Cob Lane at 80k last weekend, so hoping to get back on the double RRTY train with the South of Bucks Winter Warmer and South of Gibraltar Winter Even Warmer

Yes, I emailed you last night to let you know personally.
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: TigaSefi on 15 October, 2017, 08:22:46 am
By the way since when power meters were part of audaxing  :o People were actually measuring their efforts up hills. Now I'll have to get some!
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: Bagman on 15 October, 2017, 11:55:05 am
Less Anfractous 200 - not sure about the less bit!  It did help that a serious navigation error added 20km to my ride.
Would recommend using Hedgerley Lane at the end instead of the A40.

Good route and well organised.  Completed my 2nd RRtY ( consecutive years).
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: Von Broad on 15 October, 2017, 01:10:34 pm
Thanks to organizing-new-blood-Swiss Hat for the day and especially the tomato and lentil soup, which hit the spot.

Rode the Nyctophobic. I can't remember the last time I rode a 100km audax event, but it did make me reflect on how useful 100km rides are in terms of preparation for longer events if you approach them in the right way. It's an easy mistake to think that just because it's 'only' 100km they are somehow lesser in terms of value. Take a ride like this and look to improve your performance with each outing and you've got yourself a very good training ride indeed.
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: LMT on 15 October, 2017, 08:06:01 pm
Done the Less Anfrac, a good day out. Done the ride a couple of years ago and you forget the little kickers that are on the route which I need to lose some weight to help get up. Thans to Swiss Hat, ride number one of the season, looking forward to Wilky's Girton ride this weekend.
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: LMT on 15 October, 2017, 08:09:35 pm
By the way since when power meters were part of audaxing  :o People were actually measuring their efforts up hills. Now I'll have to get some!

Does help with pacing...can recommend the Quarq Dzero.
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: TigaSefi on 15 October, 2017, 09:54:18 pm
By the way since when power meters were part of audaxing  :o People were actually measuring their efforts up hills. Now I'll have to get some!

Does help with pacing...can recommend the Quarq Dzero.

Jesus those prices!!! I'll get saving.
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: hippy on 17 October, 2017, 11:59:39 am
By the way since when power meters were part of audaxing  :o People were actually measuring their efforts up hills. Now I'll have to get some!

I haven't ridden an audax withOUT a powermeter. I'm a bit of an edge case though.
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: TigaSefi on 17 October, 2017, 01:11:37 pm
By the way since when power meters were part of audaxing  :o People were actually measuring their efforts up hills. Now I'll have to get some!

I haven't ridden an audax withOUT a powermeter. I'm a bit of an edge case though.

Cool. Thing is if i was to go down this road, I'd stick it on my cervelo S3 rather than my audax bike. I do sometimes use the speedy bike on summer audaxes so maybe next year.
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: Greenbank on 17 October, 2017, 01:35:24 pm
Not really related to this particular Audax but you've got a choice of power meters:-

a) cranks
b) rear hubs
c) pedals (or bits that sit between the cranks and your current pedals)
d) pods (accelerometer based rather than strain gauge based)

and multiple price points in many of these categories.

Each have their pros and cons (cost, ease of transfer to another bike, accuracy, etc).

I've used PowerTap rear hubs (one geared, one fixed) on Audaxes for years.

The final category (pods) will probably be what we see most of on consumer level bikes in years to come (top end will continue to be crank based IMHO). Pods are cheaper, easier to install and transfer between bikes, derived L/R power split (so not perfect) and not as accurate as some of the others. DCRainmaker doesn't slate them either: https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2016/03/powerpod-depth-review.html
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: hippy on 17 October, 2017, 01:50:07 pm
Didn't iBike try and do something similar to those Pods about 10 years ago?

There's also BB-based PMs, I owned a Polar chain-based PM, someone (Bebop?) tried to make cleat PMs, etc.

If you're going to spend money on a PM, get a proper PM - Powertap, P2M, SRM, maybe Qarq, InPower, etc.
All of the cheap ones are usually limited to guesstimating steady-state power at best and fall apart whenever anything peaky needs measuring and if a job's worth doing...

I'm waiting for the full bike-mounted aero test suite to come out...
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: Bianchi Boy on 17 October, 2017, 09:18:04 pm
Power meter and audax OMG. Next we will see people chasing times. I just love the countryside and keep my head up.
BB

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Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: hippy on 17 October, 2017, 09:20:32 pm
Power meter and audax OMG. Next we will see people chasing times. I just love the countryside and keep my head up.

All my bikes have powermeters. I'm hardly going to remove it to ride an audax.

*trades in wristwatch for SPD sandals*
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: LMT on 17 October, 2017, 10:43:43 pm
Power meter and audax OMG. Next we will see people chasing times. I just love the countryside and keep my head up.
BB

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As do I, the thing with a PM is that it allows you get around in the most efficient way, which in turns allows you more to love the countryside and keep your head up.
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 17 October, 2017, 10:52:06 pm
Meh
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: jsabine on 18 October, 2017, 12:34:10 am
Next we will see people chasing times.

Not sure what you mean by 'Next' - we already see folk doing that. Admittedly in my case it's normally the closing time1, but still ...


Control, pub, generally one of the two.
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: Greenbank on 18 October, 2017, 07:45:32 am
I just love the countryside and keep my head up.

Same here. The only thing on show on my Garmin is the map page. I don't bother looking at any data fields whilst riding Audaxes.

If you're not chasing a time (e.g. TT-ing) then data is for looking at afterwards (although I do occasionally have a sneaky look if I'm having a rough patch as it gives me the confidence that I am just feeling rough rather than my power dropping off completely).

Anyway, shock horror, people have different approaches to cycling Audaxes.
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: HK on 18 October, 2017, 01:34:15 pm
Change of pace. We had a fantastic day a-wheel. Swiss Hat organised perfect weather plus gave us the option of declining some of the hills via the Less Anfractuous route. Caught up with old friends plus chatted o some folks who attended the Long Distance Ladies night at Look Mum No Hands. Was great to get feed back and put faces to virtual reality names.

What’s not to like?
Title: Re: AAAnfractous 200 / Less Anfractous 200 / Nyctophobic 100 - 14th October 2017
Post by: Flatlander on 18 October, 2017, 10:31:57 pm
Change of pace. We had a fantastic day a-wheel. Swiss Hat organised perfect weather plus gave us the option of declining some of the hills via the Less Anfractuous route

What’s not to like?
I'll buy that. Didn't skip the hills though, I dream of hills back home. And left[home] just after dawn and got back before dusk - a autumnal day well used.

Bit of a contrast to what this Saturdays experience is going to be like, wonder if I can manage an air speed of 45mph, if not I aint getting to the finish.