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Torslanda

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #475 on: 05 March, 2018, 10:31:43 am »
Just as Auchonvillers nr. Beaumont-Hamel was colloquially known as 'Ocean Villas'. Typical Tommy humour.
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Well that's the more blunt way of putting it but as usual he's dead right.

T42

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #476 on: 05 March, 2018, 10:32:16 am »
or Wipers...
In hte context of WWI, it can be 'Wipers'.

+1; sanctified by usage and sacrifice. Ditto for US "Bastone".  But only from people who were there.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #477 on: 05 March, 2018, 10:34:39 am »
"Torte" pronounced "taut".
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Mr Larrington

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #478 on: 05 March, 2018, 01:41:50 pm »
"Le Cateau", obv, is pronounced "Leaky Too".  Or possibly "Two".
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citoyen

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #479 on: 25 April, 2018, 10:31:32 am »
There's a trailer that's getting repeated a lot on 6music at the moment in which Miranda Sawyer pronounces biopic as 'bi-opic' rather than 'bio-pic', with the emphasis on 'op'. Makes me shout at the radio every time.

Stuart Maconie picked up on it yesterday as well.
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T42

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #480 on: 25 April, 2018, 11:31:44 am »
Shallot pronounced SHALLet. US, natch.

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Andrij

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #481 on: 25 April, 2018, 11:36:12 am »
Shallot pronounced SHALLet. US, natch.

Growing up in the US (and left in my late 20s), I never hears anyone say 'SHALLet'.  It may be regional, or perhaps just one person's ignorance.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #482 on: 25 April, 2018, 11:59:57 am »
There's a trailer that's getting repeated a lot on 6music at the moment in which Miranda Sawyer pronounces biopic as 'bi-opic' rather than 'bio-pic', with the emphasis on 'op'. Makes me shout at the radio every time.

Stuart Maconie picked up on it yesterday as well.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "bio-pic". But then it's not a word I encounter much.
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T42

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #483 on: 25 April, 2018, 01:47:41 pm »
Shallot pronounced SHALLet. US, natch.

Growing up in the US (and left in my late 20s), I never hears anyone say 'SHALLet'.  It may be regional, or perhaps just one person's ignorance.

Two, then, one of them being Julia Child, t'other being Danny de Vito. JC spoke fluent French (échalote), too.
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Andrij

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #484 on: 25 April, 2018, 01:56:52 pm »
 ::-)

I leave the country for a few decades and the whole place falls to pieces.
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Kim

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #485 on: 25 April, 2018, 03:00:34 pm »
Veering off-topic, but hardly worth starting a new thread...

Pronunciation that makes me cringe slightly less:  "Kim Vaul"

ian

Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #486 on: 25 April, 2018, 03:47:38 pm »
I say bi-OP-ic. And shall-OT.

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #487 on: 25 April, 2018, 10:07:13 pm »
There's a trailer that's getting repeated a lot on 6music at the moment in which Miranda Sawyer pronounces biopic as 'bi-opic' rather than 'bio-pic', with the emphasis on 'op'. Makes me shout at the radio every time.

Stuart Maconie picked up on it yesterday as well.
Phew. Not just me then.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #488 on: 26 April, 2018, 10:37:20 am »
There's a trailer that's getting repeated a lot on 6music at the moment in which Miranda Sawyer pronounces biopic as 'bi-opic' rather than 'bio-pic', with the emphasis on 'op'. Makes me shout at the radio every time.

Stuart Maconie picked up on it yesterday as well.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "bio-pic". But then it's not a word I encounter much.

I'd always say  bio-pic, bi-opic means having two opics whatever opics are.
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

citoyen

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #489 on: 26 April, 2018, 10:56:12 am »
I don't think I've ever heard anyone say "bio-pic". But then it's not a word I encounter much.

Nor do I generally, but 6music is my background noise during the day and they've been playing the trailer at least once an hour for the past week, so it begins to be conspicuous.

Fortunately, that episode has been on now so they've started playing the trailer for the next episode instead, which doesn't feature any especially annoying pronunciations, just the usual self-congratulatory smugness of 6music presenters (I'm well and truly bored of these idiots telling me how 'eclectic' they are).
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #490 on: 26 April, 2018, 11:03:15 am »
Apparently this genuinely is a US v UK difference:
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/biopic
As movies are a US-dominated industry, it makes sense that the US pronunciation would become dominant. Though bio-pic makes more sense.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #491 on: 26 April, 2018, 01:24:15 pm »
The cover blurb on my copy of Iain Banks' "Espedair Street" describes it as a "rock biopic", and thus was clearly written by an idiot.
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ian

Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #492 on: 26 April, 2018, 01:43:02 pm »
I'm sticking with bi-OP-ic. It gives the word a spritely bunnyish appeal. I think we should put the emphasis on more middle syllables. They're forced to linger there, journeymen stressfully bookended by other more emphatically delivered syllables. I say give them life! Give them omph! This is my manifesto for the neglected syllables.

Torslanda

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #493 on: 26 April, 2018, 02:08:21 pm »
AIUI the word is a contraction of 'biographical picture'. Therefore it should be pronounced 'bio - pic' and hyphenated when written.

Can of worms anyone . . . ?
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T42

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #494 on: 26 April, 2018, 02:35:59 pm »
No relation of 84 Charlie.
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citoyen

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #495 on: 30 April, 2018, 02:03:49 pm »
I listened to the latest Kermode and Mayo film podcast yesterday, in which they covered the thorny bio-pic question (presumably inspired by the same 6music trailer, though all the news and trailers are cut out of the podcast version of the show).

They agreed with me on the pronunciation, as did their guest Eddie Marsan.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #496 on: 15 May, 2018, 09:16:54 pm »
Son.  It is pronounced 'samosa'.  Not bloody 'samoza''. 
Someone brought brought up in Birmingham has no excuse.
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #497 on: 15 May, 2018, 10:18:22 pm »
Son.  It is pronounced 'samosa'.  Not bloody 'samoza''. 
Someone brought brought up in Birmingham has no excuse.
Wasn't he El Pres of Nicaragua? (Samoza, not your son, obvs.)
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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #498 on: 20 May, 2018, 02:24:22 pm »
I think we should put the emphasis on more middle syllables. They're forced to linger there, journeymen stressfully bookended by other more emphatically delivered syllables. I say give them life! Give them omph! This is my manifesto for the neglected syllables.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Pronunciation that makes you cringe
« Reply #499 on: 20 May, 2018, 02:55:00 pm »
Or Slovakia. Though you might enjoy Poland.
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