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General Category => Audax => Topic started by: Jack_P on 07 April, 2016, 01:25:11 pm

Title: [HAMR] New HAMR month record
Post by: Jack_P on 07 April, 2016, 01:25:11 pm
Almost wish I hadn't seen this.
http://www.ultracycling.com/wp_news/?p=1008

More attainable to create some more mileating competition, I assume it's not retrospective so does that make future claims hollow compared to the months Steve and Kurt put in.
If they have year classes then people in certain age groups could lay claim to a world record as it gets going ;-)
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: clarion on 07 April, 2016, 02:22:13 pm
UMCA do everything in age classes, so I assume that they are regarding Kurt & Teethgrinder as the respective record holders (or at least the benchmark).
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: clarion on 07 April, 2016, 02:23:04 pm
A blast of a month on a recumbent could see some serious distance being chalked up.
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: The French Tandem on 18 April, 2016, 08:47:45 pm
(pedantic remark)

We should probably call this the HMMR record.
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: rafletcher on 17 May, 2016, 11:52:34 am
A new contender for the month record according to the HAMR website. Andre Goeritz / Adze Briscoe-Frieze

http://www.ultracycling.com/wp_news/

I think he's using a recumbent.
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: red marley on 15 June, 2016, 07:23:56 am
The various claims to month records seem even more fragmented than the annual record, but does anyone have an idea of the current highest totals from various organisations? Andre Goeritz should have finished his May/June UMCA attempt, but I can't find his actual total. And then there's Bruce's self-proclaimed Strava record of 10,000km.

Amanda in her first 31 days has accumulated 12,238km (6938 miles) which must be up there near, if not at, the top.
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 15 June, 2016, 08:12:57 am
I take Bruce's self-proclaimed record with a pinch of salt the size of the iceberg that sank the titanic.

It would seem to be a shame if Amanda hasn't registered for a month record.
I must apologise to Bruce, I was confusing him with Miles.
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: marcusjb on 15 June, 2016, 08:18:07 am
Maybe she is waiting until she has warmed up properly?
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 15 June, 2016, 10:06:06 am
The various claims to month records seem even more fragmented than the annual record, but does anyone have an idea of the current highest totals from various organisations? Andre Goeritz should have finished his May/June UMCA attempt, but I can't find his actual total. And then there's Bruce's self-proclaimed Strava record of 10,000km.

Amanda in her first 31 days has accumulated 12,238km (6938 miles) which must be up there near, if not at, the top.

If I remember rightly Tommy Godwin register about 8800 miles in July 1939 so presumably, as his annual record is accepted, this is the gold standard that any record should aim for.
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: teethgrinder on 15 June, 2016, 07:01:04 pm
Claims won't be accepted in retrospect. You must enter within at least 21 days before starting. If you are riding the HAMR, then you get 3 free goes at it during your HAMR attempt, but must still give the 21 days notice.
The Guinness World Record is something over 4000 miles.
I followed Andre on Strava near the end of his attempt and he was going well, but had problems with his health for the last few days.
I hope Amanda puts a claim in because she should be able to get the record.
I intend to have a go at the month record as part of my build up and also to see if another year looks feasible. I'm thinking of doing that in September.
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: mattc on 15 June, 2016, 07:32:08 pm
The various claims to month records seem even more fragmented than the annual record, but does anyone have an idea of the current highest totals from various organisations? Andre Goeritz should have finished his May/June UMCA attempt, but I can't find his actual total. And then there's Bruce's self-proclaimed Strava record of 10,000km.

Amanda in her first 31 days has accumulated 12,238km (6938 miles) which must be up there near, if not at, the top.

If I remember rightly Tommy Godwin register about 8800 miles in July 1939 so presumably, as his annual record is accepted, this is the gold standard that any record should aim for.
If I were in Bruce's position, and read the above posts, I would be pretty embarassed.
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: red marley on 16 June, 2016, 08:09:32 am
Just looking at the 31 day rolling totals for all challengers, I make the furthest for each rider

Tommy Godwin 8773 miles (21st June - 21st July 1939)
Kurt Searvogel 6993 miles (16th June - 16th July 2015)
Amanda Coker 6983 miles (15th May - 14th June 2016)
Steve Abraham 6873 miles (10th June - 10th July 2015)
Bruce Berkely 6512 miles (1st January - 31st January 2016)
Miles Smith  5153 miles (23rd September - 23rd October 2015)
Kajsa Tylen 3027 miles (20th February - 22nd March 2016)

I can see Amanda exceeding Kurt's monthly total at some point, but probably not overturning Tommy's unreachable summer miles.
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: Cmiller on 18 June, 2016, 03:30:56 am

I hope Amanda puts a claim in because she should be able to get the record.

Unfortunately, she did not..
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 18 June, 2016, 03:27:17 pm
Just looking at the 31 day rolling totals for all challengers, I make the furthest for each rider

Tommy Godwin 8773 miles (21st June - 21st July 1939)
Kurt Searvogel 6993 miles (16th June - 16th July 2015)
Amanda Coker 6983 miles (15th May - 14th June 2016)
Steve Abraham 6873 miles (10th June - 10th July 2015)
Bruce Berkely 6512 miles (1st January - 31st January 2016)
Miles Smith  5153 miles (23rd September - 23rd October 2015)
Kajsa Tylen 3027 miles (20th February - 22nd March 2016)

I can see Amanda exceeding Kurt's monthly total at some point, but probably not overturning Tommy's unreachable summer miles.

Thanks Jo
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: andrew_s on 01 August, 2016, 02:34:53 pm
I can see Amanda exceeding Kurt's monthly total at some point, but probably not overturning Tommy's unreachable summer miles.
Mileage for July was 7137.7
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: red marley on 02 August, 2016, 08:19:07 am
And if you take the 31 days with the furthest distance, in the 31 days ending yesterday she has covered 7159.4 miles - further than any of the modern challengers.

Last week also saw her take the weekly rolling total with 1642 miles, with is further than Kurt's maximum of 1635 and Steve's of 1634.

We should see her increase her longest monthly and weekly rolling maximum as she has been upping her miles recently. Still a way to catch Tommy though with 8773 and 2109 miles.
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: Jack_P on 25 August, 2016, 01:13:02 pm
Claims won't be accepted in retrospect. You must enter within at least 21 days before starting. If you are riding the HAMR, then you get 3 free goes at it during your HAMR attempt, but must still give the 21 days notice.
The Guinness World Record is something over 4000 miles.
I followed Andre on Strava near the end of his attempt and he was going well, but had problems with his health for the last few days.
I hope Amanda puts a claim in because she should be able to get the record.
I intend to have a go at the month record as part of my build up and also to see if another year looks feasible. I'm thinking of doing that in September.

Am I the only one who thinks that having to give 21 days notice is crazy, and that retrospective records should in some way be allowed if the proof is forthcoming: 
Sorry Mr Bolt your new world record does not count.....did you tell us you intended to break it on that night!

Looking forward to Steve's attempt in August and the methods he adopts.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: The French Tandem on 25 August, 2016, 02:12:30 pm
Our fastest ever 300km was ridden on the first 300 km of LEL 2013.  It can be proved, all the data are kept somewhere. Yet, we have no right to claim a personnal best, or any other sort of record on that day, since  we  were not officially riding a 300km that day.

Mr Bolt committed himself to run the 100m race at the Olympic games, which is not exactly the same thing as running 100m in your backyard  ;)
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: Mr Larrington on 25 August, 2016, 04:02:42 pm
My fastest 200, 300 and 400 were all at the beginning of my fastest ever 600.
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 29 August, 2016, 08:55:20 pm
My fastest 200, 300 and 400 were all at the beginning of my fastest ever 600.

My fastest 400 was the first quarter of my longest ever Audax.  Riding in groups on flat terrain was what did it for me (Mille Miglia 2010)
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: Justin(e) on 30 August, 2016, 01:39:45 pm
Am I the only one who thinks that having to give 21 days notice is crazy, and that retrospective records should in some way be allowed if the proof is forthcoming: 
Sorry Mr Bolt your new world record does not count.....did you tell us you intended to break it on that night!

Fair point, but you need to think it through.

Mr Bolt might run the fastest ever 100m in training but it wont be recognised.  There needs to be timekeepers, wind measurements and track accreditation (down hill does not count).

All of this needs officials, which needs planning.  So yes, even Mr Bolt will need to give some notice that he is going to set a record.
Title: Re: New HAMR month record
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 30 August, 2016, 02:59:58 pm
I seem to remember the great pole vaulter Sergei Bubka was rumoured to have cleared 6.30m in practice.  However, he  was well rewarded by increasing the world record 1cm at a time and claiming meeting bonuses for surpassing the previous world record about a dozen times.