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Is lighter fluid for charcoal same as for lighters?
« on: 02 July, 2023, 04:03:42 pm »
There's lighter fluid to refill lighters (the "petrol" Zippo type), and there's barbecue charcoal lighter starter fluid, are the they the same stuff?

I use the the former as a cleaning solvent and also in a lighter. The latter is much cheaper.

Re: Is lighter fluid for charcoal same as for lighters?
« Reply #1 on: 02 July, 2023, 04:31:44 pm »
Different fumes maybe, the lighter fuel may give off less

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Re: Is lighter fluid for charcoal same as for lighters?
« Reply #2 on: 03 July, 2023, 07:20:04 am »
I use my gas blowtorch.
I've dusted off all those old bottles and set them up straight

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Re: Is lighter fluid for charcoal same as for lighters?
« Reply #3 on: 03 July, 2023, 07:55:04 am »
What are you trying to do? Use barbecue fluid as a solvent or lighter fuel to light your barbecue?

What does the contents label on the respective containers say? That might provide a valuable clue.

Re: Is lighter fluid for charcoal same as for lighters?
« Reply #4 on: 03 July, 2023, 08:10:21 am »
I'm wondering if charcoal starter can be used as a solvent and in a lighter in the same way as lighter fluid as it's about a third cheaper.

I'm going to get some charcoal starter anyway just to see. Possibly it might be a bit less volatile than  lighter fluid.


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Re: Is lighter fluid for charcoal same as for lighters?
« Reply #5 on: 03 July, 2023, 09:05:30 am »
Lighter fluid can be naptha/white gas.  You don't want to use that on a barbecue, as ir's basically less smelly petrol.  The vapour is heavier than air and spreads very quickly, as this (apparently only slightly singed) muppet demonstrates.

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Re: Is lighter fluid for charcoal same as for lighters?
« Reply #6 on: 03 July, 2023, 10:00:50 pm »
I just tried the bbq starter on some masking tape, it seems to dissolve the glue. I'll have to wait until tomorrow to try it in my lighters.

£3.50 for one litre from Lidl, label says:

Contains:hydrocarbons, C10-C13, n-alkanes, isoalkanes, cycloalkanes,<2% aromatics, EC no 918-481-9

Lighter fluid, 100ml for £1 (£10 per litre) from poundshop, or was, not sure about now.
Contains: Solvent naptha (petroleum) light aliph, EC no 920-750-0


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Re: Is lighter fluid for charcoal same as for lighters?
« Reply #7 on: 03 July, 2023, 10:16:32 pm »
So, C10-C13 vs C7-C9.  Not the same thing.  I'm guessing the former isn't volatile enough to work properly in a lighter.  Might work acceptably well as a cleaning solvent, thobut.

Re: Is lighter fluid for charcoal same as for lighters?
« Reply #8 on: 03 July, 2023, 11:01:46 pm »
Isn't BBq lighter fluid wood alcohol/ethanol?

Re: Is lighter fluid for charcoal same as for lighters?
« Reply #9 on: 03 July, 2023, 11:09:31 pm »
But what's the difference between an elephant and a Zippo?

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Re: Is lighter fluid for charcoal same as for lighters?
« Reply #10 on: 03 July, 2023, 11:17:15 pm »
You can't wash your face with a Zippo?

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Re: Is lighter fluid for charcoal same as for lighters?
« Reply #11 on: 04 July, 2023, 12:30:51 am »
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Re: Is lighter fluid for charcoal same as for lighters?
« Reply #12 on: 04 July, 2023, 05:51:41 am »
Isn't BBq lighter fluid wood alcohol/ethanol?
Just stinky paraffin, I think.
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Re: Is lighter fluid for charcoal same as for lighters?
« Reply #13 on: 04 July, 2023, 08:08:43 pm »
But what's the difference between an elephant and a Zippo?
OK. I'll bite.
One is really heavy.
The other is a little lighter.

Re: Is lighter fluid for charcoal same as for lighters?
« Reply #14 on: 06 July, 2023, 09:35:28 pm »
Isn't BBq lighter fluid wood alcohol/ethanol?
Just stinky paraffin, I think.

I think it's paraffin.

I tried it in 2 "petrol" lighters (Zippo and Imco copies), it doesn't work as it's less volatile than petrol/naptha. Meths/ethanol/alcohol doesn't work in a lighter either.

rogerzilla

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Re: Is lighter fluid for charcoal same as for lighters?
« Reply #15 on: 07 July, 2023, 07:11:36 am »
Coleman fuel, Optimus PowerFuel, or automotive "panel wipe" are suitable substitutes.  They're all basically less smelly petrol without the additives, and with a tighter range of molecule lengths.
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