Author Topic: Bye Lance  (Read 285371 times)

Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1000 on: 24 October, 2012, 08:21:37 pm »
Everyone wants cycling to move on, but some view Lance as a sacrificial lamb on the altar of that transformation. At some point someone will refer to 'The crucifixion considered as an uphill bicycle race.'

http://zoom-gordo.blogspot.co.uk/2010/04/crucifixion-considered-as-uphill.html#!/2010/04/crucifixion-considered-as-uphill.html
I think it's a bit Chitty the way everyone keeps Banging on about this.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1001 on: 24 October, 2012, 08:35:09 pm »
Apparently Watersons  are now stacking its Not About the Bike  under fiction.

 I don't think that book has a name any longer, onb. Like Lance, it's been stripped of its title...

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1002 on: 24 October, 2012, 10:29:13 pm »
I got a marketing e mail from Planet X asking if I remembered when Armstrong was a spaceman.

I remember the moon landings. (Just) I also remember Planet X recently buying Jimmy Savile's old bikes at auction.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1003 on: 25 October, 2012, 07:26:35 am »
An open letter from Greg Lemond to Pat McQuaid:

http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/10/news/an-open-letter-from-greg-lemond-to-uci-president-pat-mcquaid_262523

If you read carefully, hidden in there is a slight nuance of annoyance at McQuaid

TheLurker

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1004 on: 25 October, 2012, 07:54:47 am »
...If you read carefully, hidden in there is a slight nuance of annoyance at McQuaid
No, I must be dim; couldn't see even the slightest hint of irritation in it. *cough*
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rogerzilla

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1005 on: 25 October, 2012, 08:02:52 am »
Heh.  Good old Greg.
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RJ

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1006 on: 25 October, 2012, 09:40:14 am »
Traces of miffage, yes.

In contrast to mealy-mouthedness from Clentador (a pattern developing here).

And this is an interesting (and human) bit of commentary:
http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/10/analysis/analysis-collateral-damage-and-the-human-cost-of-wrecking-the-playing-field_262330


Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1007 on: 25 October, 2012, 09:58:29 am »
Contador is a convicted and unrepentant doper, just like Armstrong. People are very quick to forgive and forget that.

clarion

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1008 on: 25 October, 2012, 10:02:13 am »
I do wish Lemond wouldn't sit on the fence like that.
Getting there...

Pingu

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1009 on: 25 October, 2012, 12:27:01 pm »
Heh.  Good old Greg.

Has he got a mangina?

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1010 on: 25 October, 2012, 01:11:39 pm »

I don't think we've had this before.  It's a little calmer and slightly more forensic than Greg's facebook entry, but no less damning for that.  It's Michael Ashendon's analysis of the tangled web surrounding the 2001 Tour de Suisse samples, and the donation(s) to the UCI.

http://www.siab.org.au/58dgETdx002ag/ArmstrongTriangle.pdf 

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1011 on: 25 October, 2012, 01:17:04 pm »

I think we need more of this sort of thing. 

Quote
Marcel Kittel ‏@marcelkittel

I feel SICK when I read that Contador, Sanchez & Indurain still support Armstrong. How does someone want to be credible by saying that?!

I hope he's not misdiagnosing a recurrence of the intestinal problems which saw him quit this year's TdF.


RJ

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1012 on: 25 October, 2012, 01:25:16 pm »

I don't think we've had this before.  It's a little calmer and slightly more forensic than Greg's facebook entry, but no less damning for that.  It's Michael Ashendon's analysis of the tangled web surrounding the 2001 Tour de Suisse samples, and the donation(s) to the UCI.

http://www.siab.org.au/58dgETdx002ag/ArmstrongTriangle.pdf

Some choice stuff in there:

Quote from: Bill Stapleton
... for Lance, a level playing field was always the – the best way to win the Tour

Quote from: Michael Ashendon
Indeed, Verbruggen’s stance calls to my mind Bill Clinton’s infamous statement that he did not have sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky.

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1013 on: 25 October, 2012, 02:02:53 pm »
The Empire strikes back against LeMond: http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/3054/hnez8ogv_jpg.htm

Unsurprisingly, the Tweet has been deleted.
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1014 on: 25 October, 2012, 02:13:18 pm »
Traces of miffage, yes.

In contrast to mealy-mouthedness from Clentador (a pattern developing here).
Quote
“It appears to me, that in more than a few places, they are not treating Lance with any respect at all
Seems to me he's had far more respect than he's earned.
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Justin(e)

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1015 on: 25 October, 2012, 05:06:09 pm »
The Empire strikes back against LeMond: http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/3054/hnez8ogv_jpg.htm

Unsurprisingly, the Tweet has been deleted.

Who is Andrew McQuaid? 
Not another Kirsten moment?  ;)

Justin(e)

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1016 on: 25 October, 2012, 05:11:55 pm »
Bloody hell - this is the gift that keeps on giving.

Another one.

Check this out - but I think that it needs to be updated already.

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1017 on: 25 October, 2012, 05:15:43 pm »
Bloody hell - this is the gift that keeps on giving.

Another one.
Wow !  That is real heart on the sleeve confession.
Rust never sleeps

Rhys W

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1018 on: 25 October, 2012, 05:17:41 pm »
The Empire strikes back against LeMond: http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/3054/hnez8ogv_jpg.htm

Unsurprisingly, the Tweet has been deleted.

Who is Andrew McQuaid? 
Not another Kirsten moment?  ;)

Pat McQuaid's son, works as a rider's agent.

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1019 on: 25 October, 2012, 05:20:32 pm »

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1020 on: 25 October, 2012, 05:20:48 pm »
How is the UCI constituted ?  If all the riders and teams are now so pissed off with the leadership of the UCI is there no way they can force a change ?
I think you'll find it's a bit more complicated than that.

Justin(e)

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1021 on: 25 October, 2012, 05:22:27 pm »
The Empire strikes back against LeMond: http://s14.directupload.net/file/d/3054/hnez8ogv_jpg.htm

Unsurprisingly, the Tweet has been deleted.

Who is Andrew McQuaid? 
Not another Kirsten moment?  ;)

Pat McQuaid's son, works as a rider's agent.

Gee, that makes it tricky for the countersuit.  I'm thinking that Greg has one hell of a bargaining chip to play here.  With relatives like him, who needs enemies.

citoyen

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1022 on: 25 October, 2012, 05:26:47 pm »
Does Bobby J's confession now mean a French rider won the 1998 Tour de France?  ;D

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1023 on: 25 October, 2012, 05:31:08 pm »
Bobby Julich's gone from Sky.
http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,27290,17546_8194069,00.html

Curious, it sounded like after the initial clean-or-nothing declarations thing, that Brailford was rethinking his approach:
http://road.cc/content/news/69509-brailsford-hints-sky-softening-stance-doping-froome-fears-departures

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1024 on: 25 October, 2012, 05:37:38 pm »
Does Bobby J's confession now mean a French rider won the 1998 Tour de France?  ;D

d.

He was rider 4 then.