Author Topic: Bye Lance  (Read 285360 times)

clarion

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1725 on: 25 July, 2013, 12:27:50 pm »
Your opinion is void.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1726 on: 25 July, 2013, 12:51:08 pm »
We can tell urea with comments like that...

Toady

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1727 on: 25 July, 2013, 01:05:39 pm »
I see the women's team are sponsored by Widdle

Pingu

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1728 on: 25 July, 2013, 01:14:27 pm »
Wondering a cyclist called James' sample is 'manquant'. It's a Jimmy riddle.





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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1729 on: 25 July, 2013, 04:20:05 pm »
IF you look at the report, rather than just one annex, there are some surprising lies and damned lies stats

Which olympic/paralympic sport had the biggest percentage of abnormal tests  in 2011 (WADA figures)?
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Which non-olympic/paralympic sport (but recognised by the IOC) had the biggest percentage of abnormal tests  in 2011(WADA)?
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Among other sports, it's not so surprising that it's
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Cycling's figure for 2011 was 1.68%

AFLD produced a league table of the eight sports in which >400 tests were carried out in 2012 (AFLD, therefore only France)
In alphebetical order: Athletics, Basketball, Cycling, Football, Handball, Rugby, Swimming, Triathlon.
League table:
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The the sport with the highest percentage (43%) of its positives due to beta-blockers (NB AFLD figures) is
 
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I also noticed that 1.3% of all failed tests in France between 2007 and 2012 were at UFOLEP events (mostly cycling ones)

http://www.senat.fr/rap/r12-782-1/r12-782-14.html#toc39
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citoyen

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1730 on: 25 July, 2013, 05:02:30 pm »
IF you look at the report, rather than just one annex, there are some surprising stats

Great stuff, thanks, Salvatore.

I've still not been able to download the report myself.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1731 on: 25 July, 2013, 05:09:31 pm »
"He who fights monsters should see to it that he himself does not become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." ~ Freidrich Neitzsche

Salvatore

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1732 on: 25 July, 2013, 05:13:27 pm »
IF you look at the report, rather than just one annex, there are some surprising stats

Great stuff, thanks, Salvatore.

I've still not been able to download the report myself.

It's now available in html (rather than pdf).

Like all stats, open to all sorts of (mis)interpretation. But the main thrust of that bit was that all sports are touchés, even la course camarguaise (bullfighting as practised in France, where the bull doesn't get killed, 5 positives) and balle au tambourin (a sort of 5-a-side tennis played with a tambourine instead of a racquet, 4 cases).
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1733 on: 25 July, 2013, 07:28:32 pm »
balle au tambourin (a sort of 5-a-side tennis played with a tambourine instead of a racquet, 4 cases).
That sounds so eccentric I want to see it and I don't care if they're all doped!

I hope the Olympics goes to Paris soon and it gets included!
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Salvatore

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1734 on: 25 July, 2013, 07:35:15 pm »
balle au tambourin (a sort of 5-a-side tennis played with a tambourine instead of a racquet, 4 cases).
That sounds so eccentric I want to see it and I don't care if they're all doped!

I hope the Olympics goes to Paris soon and it gets included!

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/56A1TFH9v-s&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/56A1TFH9v-s&rel=1</a>
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Cudzoziemiec

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1735 on: 25 July, 2013, 08:04:21 pm »
Merci! It looks fun but far more conventional than I'd imagined - sort of like volleyball without a net but with tambourines. For some reason, I'd imagined five people in total on the court, playing as individuals all against each other. Which, of course, is not what five-a-side means.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1736 on: 25 July, 2013, 08:32:46 pm »
I'm disappointed that the tambourines don't have bells on them.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1737 on: 26 July, 2013, 01:01:24 am »
IF you look at the report, rather than just one annex, there are some surprising stats

Great stuff, thanks, Salvatore.

I've still not been able to download the report myself.

It's now available in html (rather than pdf).

Like all stats, open to all sorts of (mis)interpretation. But the main thrust of that bit was that all sports are touchés, even la course camarguaise (bullfighting as practised in France, where the bull doesn't get killed, 5 positives) and balle au tambourin (a sort of 5-a-side tennis played with a tambourine instead of a racquet, 4 cases).

I bet if they tested the bulls that figure would be closer to 50% !




Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1738 on: 26 July, 2013, 01:53:30 am »
I'm disappointed that the tambourines don't have bells on them.

Even so, I'd quite like to condemn Lance to a lifetime of playing le jeu du balle au tambourin.
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citoyen

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1739 on: 26 July, 2013, 08:11:02 am »
IF you look at the report, rather than just one annex, there are some surprising lies and damned lies stats

Here's another interesting statistic:
"The ITF website says it conducted only 21 out-of-competition blood tests in professional tennis in 2011 compared to 3,314 carried out by cycling’s world governing UCI."
http://m.theglobeandmail.com/sports/more-sports/serbian-tennis-player-viktor-troicki-suspended-for-doping-violation/article13437398
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RJ

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1740 on: 26 July, 2013, 12:47:05 pm »
IF you look at the report, rather than just one annex, there are some surprising lies and damned lies stats

Here's another interesting statistic:
"The ITF website says it conducted only 21 out-of-competition blood tests in professional tennis in 2011 compared to 3,314 carried out by cycling’s world governing UCI."
http://m.theglobeandmail.com/sports/more-sports/serbian-tennis-player-viktor-troicki-suspended-for-doping-violation/article13437398

If that's a representative annual rate of testing, a single positive would put tennis at the top of Salvatore's tables ...

(... or something like that)

mattc

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1741 on: 26 July, 2013, 12:52:04 pm »
Here's another interesting statistic:
"The ITF website says it conducted only 21 out-of-competition blood tests in professional tennis in 2011 compared to 3,314 carried out by cycling’s world governing UCI."
I'll add that to my cyclists-handy-facts-sheet for responding to idiots - if I ever get a Round Tuit.


Along with:
- yes, the law does say we can ride 2-a-abreast
- actually lots of motorists pay zero VED
- etc ...
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1742 on: 26 July, 2013, 01:19:44 pm »
I'm disappointed that the tambourines don't have bells on them.

Even so, I'd quite like to condemn Lance to a lifetime of playing le jeu du balle au tambourin.
As the ball or the tambourine?  :demon:
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clarion

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1743 on: 26 July, 2013, 01:40:59 pm »
I had a fanciful moment imagining Jeu du balle au tambourine teams led by the fierce rival captains Mick Jagger and Davy Jones.

You could make a movie of it, if Dylan and the Lemon Pipers were prepared to do the soundtrack.
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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1744 on: 28 July, 2013, 06:52:03 pm »
Zabel - OK, I did inhale.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/15107/Zabel-admits-to-lying-in-2007-about-extent-of-his-doping-now-confirms-eight-season-period-of-use.aspx

Bet Cav must be pissed off, given that Zabel was his mentor. He is currently sprint coach with the Katusha team. What's German for Job Centre?
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citoyen

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1745 on: 29 July, 2013, 08:12:10 am »
Do you really think Cav will be entirely surprised by this news?
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LEE

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1746 on: 29 July, 2013, 09:14:57 am »
But the main thrust of that bit was that all sports are touchés, even la course camarguaise (bullfighting as practised in France, where the bull doesn't get killed.

I've seen "Toro Piscine" in Nimes.  Fundamentally a very athletic young bull vs teenage kids wearing pyjamas and flip-flops.
The only chance of a bull getting injured is if it headbutts a bony teenage kid a bit too hard.
Anyone who gets in with the bull without being doped to the eye-balls (Stella would be my choice) needs to reconsider their actions.

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1747 on: 29 July, 2013, 09:32:16 am »
I'm disappointed that the tambourines don't have bells on them.

We'd have Morris Tennis if we were as silly as the French.
It is simpler than it looks.

Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1748 on: 08 August, 2013, 04:44:42 pm »
Laugh or cry?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/cycling/2013/08/07/lance-armstrong-books-doping/2629895/

If it succeeds does anyone know who the Grimm's lawyer is? I mean, deceiving children.
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rogerzilla

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Re: Bye Lance
« Reply #1749 on: 25 August, 2013, 12:32:27 pm »
He's now settled (confidentially, out of court) with the Sunday Times, who were sued by him and made to pay £300,000 in 2006 after alleging doping.

Maybe he'll become a bum doing wheelies for food money.
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