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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #725 on: 04 June, 2015, 11:09:09 am »
Totally agree about the infos. They were really crap and did not suit people riding by gps alone.

Lesson learned for next time.  :thumbsup:

Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #726 on: 04 June, 2015, 11:49:04 am »
Oh FFS.

Will you lot stop going on and on about how fab the route was, and the controls were, and the planning was, and the volunteers were.

I was trying to take comfort from the weather having been a bit mixed to console myself for not riding it.

Bah.

Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #727 on: 04 June, 2015, 11:52:08 am »
MJB – thanks for the thumbs up about the route. In all the talk about whether the route was too long (it  Moving a couple of the controls, if we can secure bookings in time, could shave 10-20km off the actual route without reducing the minimum distance. It would also save money by using controls with better facilities. I’d like to remove a couple of climbs, but only because they’re long climbs up fairly busy roads. I may decide to use the reduced distance to take out the section of the A44.

If you are moving any in my location, just let me know.  I am fairly familiar with many of the halls in the vicinity   and can provide advice accordingly.
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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #728 on: 04 June, 2015, 12:06:32 pm »
I’d like to remove a couple of climbs, but only because they’re long climbs up fairly busy roads.

The funny thing is that it's only after the event that I remembered there were supposed to be some main road sections that weren't very nice. I don't recall any of them being too bad at the time, not even the A44.

Totally agree about the infos. They were really crap and did not suit people riding by gps alone.

The only one I had a problem with was the door colour, but even then I managed to guess at the right answer - until I was persuaded to change my mind by my riding companions who were using the routesheet!
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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #729 on: 04 June, 2015, 01:12:40 pm »
It looks like less of a return to tradition from the northern end, as the old WCW had a concurrent Chester-Windsor-Chester. That's not to criticise an excellent event, which couldn't accommodate two starts, at that level of provision.

I didn't know that. It might actually be feasible to do too. I'll have a think about that.
I have been told it ice had three start points...none of them actually Windsor, used Marlow instead
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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #730 on: 04 June, 2015, 01:48:28 pm »
It looks like less of a return to tradition from the northern end, as the old WCW had a concurrent Chester-Windsor-Chester. That's not to criticise an excellent event, which couldn't accommodate two starts, at that level of provision.

I didn't know that. It might actually be feasible to do too. I'll have a think about that.
I have been told it ice had three start points...none of them actually Windsor, used Marlow instead

Marlow, Kidderminster, Knutsford when I did it.

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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #731 on: 04 June, 2015, 03:04:46 pm »
Redfalo is far too polite to explain that, shortly after he took the middle pic, the light coming towards him transmogrified into this ghastly apparition:




However, as avid readers of this board will know, he is made of stern stuff, and gathered his wits about him before riding south and completing within time, unlike me.
Besides, it wouldn't be audacious if success were guaranteed.

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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #732 on: 04 June, 2015, 07:04:14 pm »
Can we have a final call on the number of victims the two ford claimed? So far I've counted four swimmers.

1. Douglas R. heading south  https://twitter.com/Dr_AAY/status/604895112099991552
2. Javier: https://twitter.com/biciorejon/status/604718494383542272
3. Adam from Audax Club Hackney https://twitter.com/AudaxHackney/status/604683343742046208
4. billyam998: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=70845.msg1870219#msg1870219
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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #733 on: 04 June, 2015, 07:11:00 pm »
I had a couple of little walks, Howe Hill near Stoner being the one I really remember.
Howe Hill is the easiest climb out of Watlington; Britwell Hill and Watlington Hill are steeper.  So man up and stop moaning, or put your hands in your pockets and buy some gears.  Also, stop calling oatcakes "pancakes", or I'll be obliged to re-educate you on our next meeting.

I have a few complaints about the so-called support.  Why did nobody draw my attention to an alcoholic treat at Hartlebury?  I was only directed to a variety of designer muesli whose oats had been washed individually in a Swiss mountain stream.  And do you really think that holds a candle to a Ginsters washed down with Friij on cold 24hr service station forecourt?  When I request my oatcakes with cheese I don't want them like a parcel, in the style of some poncey Marks+Spencer's "wrap".  I want a flat, grilled, double-decker like my Mum makes.  If you offer oatcakes on arrival at Christleton in the evening, then why can't you offer them in the morning as well?  I'd suggest a double decker spread with butter and Golden Syrup, again like my Mum makes.  And what's all this about "service to table" - that feckless idle runt mattc sat and watched me as I rose from my seat and fetched food several times during my sojourn at Chalgrove South.

And don't bother inviting me on your ride again if you can't be bothered to sort the weather out also.

Anyway, like I was sayin', oatcake is the fruit of North Staffordshire. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. There's oatcake-kebabs, oatcake creole, oatcake gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple oatcake, lemon oatcake, coconut oatcake, pepper oatcake, oatcake soup, oatcake stew, oatcake salad, oatcake and potatoes, oatcake burger, oatcake sandwich.
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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #734 on: 04 June, 2015, 07:25:29 pm »
 ;D ;D

My apologies - I was told they were oatcakes, but in my exercise induced stupor, I forgot.

Luckily mattc had just arrived at the control when I was there, so I didn't have to endure his shocking level of service.  Worse than that though, I had to have a chat with him about the merits of various luggage systems and their chances of surviving a nuclear apocalypse.
Right! What's next?

Ooooh. That sounds like a daft idea.  I am in!

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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #735 on: 04 June, 2015, 07:36:50 pm »
There's oatcake-kebabs, oatcake creole, oatcake gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple oatcake, lemon oatcake, coconut oatcake, pepper oatcake, oatcake soup, oatcake stew, oatcake salad, oatcake and potatoes, oatcake burger, oatcake sandwich.

You missed oatcake samosas.
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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #736 on: 04 June, 2015, 07:48:38 pm »
Can we have a final call on the number of victims the two ford claimed? So far I've counted four swimmers.

Sorry to put it this way, but this makes me a little happy. I'm a notorious wimp (cowardice resulted in a broken arm when I was eight),and took the diversion for the southern most ford on the way north, and both on the way south as the water had risen. Glad to find this was prudent rather than timorous...

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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #737 on: 04 June, 2015, 08:45:54 pm »
Can we have a final call on the number of victims the two ford claimed? So far I've counted four swimmers.

1. Douglas R. heading south  https://twitter.com/Dr_AAY/status/604895112099991552
2. Javier: https://twitter.com/biciorejon/status/604718494383542272
3. Adam from Audax Club Hackney https://twitter.com/AudaxHackney/status/604683343742046208
4. billyam998: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=70845.msg1870219#msg1870219

I took a swimming class as well, so:

1. Douglas R. heading south  https://twitter.com/Dr_AAY/status/604895112099991552
2. Javier: https://twitter.com/biciorejon/status/604718494383542272
3. Adam from Audax Club Hackney https://twitter.com/AudaxHackney/status/604683343742046208
4. billyam998: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=70845.msg1870219#msg1870219
5. redfalo, going north, on the second one (I saw the footpath on the return leg)
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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #738 on: 04 June, 2015, 08:56:11 pm »
Can we have a final call on the number of victims the two ford claimed? So far I've counted four swimmers.

1. Douglas R. heading south  https://twitter.com/Dr_AAY/status/604895112099991552
2. Javier: https://twitter.com/biciorejon/status/604718494383542272
3. Adam from Audax Club Hackney https://twitter.com/AudaxHackney/status/604683343742046208
4. billyam998: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=70845.msg1870219#msg1870219

Adam's bike slipped between the planks on the footbridge, dislodging his garmin into the water, he then valiantly jumped in after it, so not sure if that counts. I, however took a full prat fall into the first one going south, trying to be clever, which on fixed wasn't a good idea... Thank god for the spare shorts.
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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #739 on: 04 June, 2015, 09:01:07 pm »
1. Douglas R. heading south  https://twitter.com/Dr_AAY/status/604895112099991552
2. Javier: https://twitter.com/biciorejon/status/604718494383542272
3. Adam from Audax Club Hackney https://twitter.com/AudaxHackney/status/604683343742046208
4. billyam998: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=70845.msg1870219#msg1870219
5. Ivan: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=70845.msg1872280#msg1872280

I had no idea. How funny. The bridges were on the routesheet and in the description field on the .tcx file

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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #740 on: 04 June, 2015, 09:13:44 pm »
1. Douglas R. heading south  https://twitter.com/Dr_AAY/status/604895112099991552
2. Javier: https://twitter.com/biciorejon/status/604718494383542272
3. Adam from Audax Club Hackney https://twitter.com/AudaxHackney/status/604683343742046208
4. billyam998: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=70845.msg1870219#msg1870219
5. Ivan: https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=70845.msg1872280#msg1872280
6. redfalo the second ford heading north



Adam's swim counts!

I found the first bridge, which made me happy, but like redfalo I didn't notice the bridge crossing the second ford and therefore cycled through the stream, but stayed upright :smug:.
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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #741 on: 04 June, 2015, 09:16:58 pm »
Wait, there was a bridge for the second (heading northbound, first when southbound)?  That was the shallower and slower one so I rode through it twice without incident (thankfully), but I never saw a bridge...

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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #742 on: 04 June, 2015, 09:18:40 pm »
Swimmers?  ???

Was it some sort of namby-pampy triatholope?

I am disgusted!!

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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #743 on: 04 June, 2015, 09:20:41 pm »
Yes, there was a bridge but it was well hidden. You can just make out the start of the trip through the undergrowth on streeview: https://goo.gl/maps/EscJr

And you can see the trace on my Garmin Tracklog just before 453 km: http://ridewithgps.com/trips/4828811
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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #744 on: 05 June, 2015, 08:09:38 pm »


This is me right after the bath. You can see the puddle next to my right foot, and I thing the pic also conveys how much I enjoyed it.
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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #745 on: 05 June, 2015, 10:00:34 pm »
Brevet numbers are now in PBP database and show up in mouse scrollover on registration page!  :thumbsup:
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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #746 on: 06 June, 2015, 07:12:08 am »
I pretty much knew what I was going to get, having ridden LEL2013 and read Danial's posts about the type of event he likes to stage.  I planned for, and got, a mini-LEL in every way.  In particular I knew I wasn't going to have to worry about food and sleep.  Out-and-back using the same controls makes for easy navigation;  I just had to look out for Sherrifhales village hall northbound in case I needed it as a sleep stop southbound.

Contention for a mattress and blanket was my only concern.  Although I'm not averse to sleeping in full kit on a wooden floor or park bench.  As a 7:30 starter I thought I'd get a sleeping place at Christleton if I arrived there by 23:30, believing that most 6:00 starters would push on to at least Lilleshall/Sherrifhales southbound before sleeping.  I arrived in Christleton at 21:30, ate and went to bed at 22:00, having changed out of my bibshorts into a pair of Ron Hill tracksters.

I'd requested a 02:00 wake-up, but actually woke at 12:30 to find all the beds around me occupied.  Ate a couple of Weetabix and drank a couple of cups of tea while chatting to Gadget and the Hackney crowd, then re-applied Conotrane, and set off into the rain and wind.  This was a bit disappointing, as I'd had a really good run-in to Christleton on terrain and through places I was familiar with (although it's over 40 years since I last rode a bike to Cholmondeley or Market Drayton - long distance destinations for me in those days) and I normally enjoy night-time riding.  I stopped to eat some cake from my saddlebag in Market Drayton, and in all the leg to Lilleshall took me 2 to 3 times longer than it had northbound.

The weather improved as the day wore on and the wind changed direction, giving a particularly welcome boost on the A44 section (front derailleur problems had forced me to take some of the Cotswold climbs on my "big" 46-tooth chainring - yes I know big-big is bad, but needs must).  I really enjoyed the quick flat run-in between the A4 and Windsor (it was a bit like South Cheshire).

I chose WCW as a PBP qualifier for several reasons, one of which was to try a west-of-Birmingham route up to my Mum's, between Crewe and Newcastle-under-Lyme.  I already have one to the East which comes in at approx. 200 miles but have had little success plotting a western route that I'd be happy to ride.  This fits the bill perfectly - I just have to join at Watlington and leave at Market Drayton.  Another reason is that I wanted a 600 I'd not ridden before, started close to home, and could be confident of completing.  That confidence came from the knowledge that it would be an averagely difficult route with huge amounts of support and TLC.  Thank you very much to Danial and all the team for delivering this; you all worked very hard to make it happen.
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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #747 on: 06 June, 2015, 01:00:29 pm »
Well, I didn't join the WCW swimming team, but I did get stung by the swathe of stinging nettles growing over the path round the first ford  :-[
I didn't find the path round the second but rode through it- I could feel how slippy the bottom was though  :o

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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #748 on: 06 June, 2015, 01:32:29 pm »
Northbound, I was in a group of 6 when we reached the first ford. I thought about riding through but it looked deep so I followed everyone else over the bridge.

When we got to the second ford, there were two riders who'd gone through moments before us. One of them looked rather damp.

As we approached, his friend called out, "Careful, it's a bit..."

SPLASH!

"...slippery."

One of our group had decided to shoot straight through and fell foul of a combination of the moss and a rut.

I waited until the others had gone through then ride through slowly and carefully.

On the return leg, I was on my own when I got to the fords and rode through both. Shortly after the second ford, I caught up with another rider who'd taken the path around the first ford... and been rewarded for his caution with a puncture!
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Re: Coming soon - the all new Windsor-Chester-Windsor
« Reply #749 on: 06 June, 2015, 05:37:27 pm »
I've always felt a bit of a wimp when taking the dry route round fords - this thread has reassured me that its probably the sensible option. :)
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