Post by: Polar Bear on 29 September, 2017, 09:06:07 am
Does anybody have any experience of and recommendations for specific trail shoes please?
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 29 September, 2017, 09:15:36 am
Also, not too high a heel cushioning for similar reasons.
Sports Direct have a pretty good sports shoe department (at least the York shop does) and the staff know what they are talking about. Quite often the staff are sports/PE instructors who work in the shop so they can afford to teach what they love in the evenings.
Post by: mattc on 29 September, 2017, 12:50:50 pm
That would have the advantage of using shoes that you know don't injure you. And being cheaper :P
[I think Inov8 do good products for not stupid money, and get consistently good reviews in the fell-running world - but I haven't honestly done enough miles in mine to give a reliable opinion. They look like the Swedish flag wrapped round my feet.]
Post by: Greenbank on 29 September, 2017, 01:01:45 pm
My local parkrun can be like this if it's been wet:-
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7354/27501939010_7718828325_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/HUfCjf)parkrun 498 (38) (https://flic.kr/p/HUfCjf) by WC Parkrun (https://www.flickr.com/photos/143435815@N07/), on Flickr
If it's dry I just use normal trainers that I'd use for the road/pavement (Saucony Jazz in my case, although they've discontinued that model annoyingly).
Post by: Polar Bear on 29 September, 2017, 01:08:45 pm
I'll check out the Inov8 stuff. Thanks for the tip. I'm told that Asics also have a range of trail shoes so I'll be looking at them too.
Those Saucony Peregrine's look interesting. thanks.
Post by: fuaran on 29 September, 2017, 01:21:56 pm
Most of them are fairly minimal cushioning. And I have found they can cause blisters on my heels.
I now prefer the Asics FujiAttack. Fairly grippy, and comfy for me on long runs. They have a bit of cushioning, so not too bad for sections of road.
Post by: sojournermike on 29 September, 2017, 04:02:44 pm
However, the Mudclaws seem to work across a much wider group of runners and have loads of grip.
I used to run in Walshes, if they're quite close to the x-talons really.
Post by: citoyen on 29 September, 2017, 04:40:19 pm
I also have a pair of Helly Hansen Pace Interceptors, which were a freebie. I do like them - they're very sturdy and waterproof - but they're far too heavy for running - ideal for winter dog walks in the woods though.
My brother lives in the Lake District and does a lot of fell running and he seems to favour Salomon footwear for that.
Post by: hellymedic on 29 September, 2017, 05:01:27 pm
Post by: delthebike on 29 September, 2017, 05:33:47 pm
Just out interest, how easily can you clean mud and muck from these shoes' uppers?Hose or washing machine usually.
Post by: sojournermike on 29 September, 2017, 05:34:20 pm
Just out interest, how easily can you clean mud and muck from these shoes' uppers?
I just run them under the cold tap and leave in the utility room with the hot water tank
Post by: Polar Bear on 29 September, 2017, 05:54:20 pm
If they get really grubby a quick wash in the machine helps.
* out of habit: not sure it's strictly necessary.
Post by: HeltorChasca on 29 September, 2017, 06:20:47 pm
Post by: Greenbank on 29 September, 2017, 06:59:37 pm
Just out interest, how easily can you clean mud and muck from these shoes' uppers?
It eventually falls off or gets cleaned by more running in the rain or puddles.
I never clean my running shoes.
Post by: ElyDave on 02 October, 2017, 10:19:22 am
You will definitely find a pair to suit. I have an earlier version of the trailroc which is OK on hard packed gravelly surfaces and light mud, their new parkclaw seems to be aimed at you as well. Those are a decent compromise between grip in the mud and comfort on on-road sections for me.
The FLite 195 is my road running shoe.
If you are not used to low drop shoes, go very carefully to start with i.e. run a mile, no more, and build up very gradually. the Inov8 shoes have a system of chevrons on the back, denoting the heel-toe difference, more chevrons, more difference. I typically use one or no chevrons, so almost flat.
Post by: Polar Bear on 02 October, 2017, 06:35:34 pm
It's hard work at the moment but enjoyable: I'm doing my own version of couch to 5k. Only six runs in but I'm well and truly hooked again. :D
Up to 2kms already and all is good. Registered with Parkrun and targeting January 13th for my first run with them.
Post by: mattc on 02 October, 2017, 07:52:18 pm
the Inov8 shoes have a system of chevrons on the back, denoting the heel-toe difference, more chevrons, more difference. I typically use one or no chevrons, so almost flat.I've stared at millions of Inov8 pictures and read a thousand reviews - yet hand't noticed the chevron thing ;D
Perhaps cos I'm mostly interested in low-drop => no chevrons?
<goes off to check mine ... >
Post by: ElyDave on 02 October, 2017, 09:09:18 pm
Post by: sojournermike on 02 October, 2017, 11:32:28 pm
the Inov8 shoes have a system of chevrons on the back, denoting the heel-toe difference, more chevrons, more difference. I typically use one or no chevrons, so almost flat.I've stared at millions of Inov8 pictures and read a thousand reviews - yet hand't noticed the chevron thing ;D
Perhaps cos I'm mostly interested in low-drop => no chevrons?
<goes off to check mine ... >
I've not. Prices the chevrons on mine either, but the x-talon 190s are 3mm drop and the 212s are 6mm.
I've been wearing some Saucony Kinvara on the road. They're 4mm drop, but I'd not call them minimal, justbflattish and very cushioned.
I much prefer these to the large drop shoes that used to predominate and which always made me feel clunky by forcing a heel strike.
Mike
Post by: pucklie24 on 04 October, 2017, 01:35:02 pm
Post by: fimm on 04 October, 2017, 02:20:09 pm
Just out interest, how easily can you clean mud and muck from these shoes' uppers?Why would you want to? They'll only get muddy again...
Post by: Polar Bear on 06 October, 2017, 07:23:28 pm
I'm erring for the next half size at the moment which they do have in stock. What does the panel think?
Post by: Greenbank on 06 October, 2017, 10:14:46 pm
If not you could probably solve it with a different lacing pattern: https://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/lacingmethods.htm
Post by: Polar Bear on 06 October, 2017, 10:28:49 pm
Post by: CrazyEnglishTriathlete on 07 October, 2017, 03:12:16 pm
In between I've had a pair of Adidas Riot 6, which have done a good job, without wowing like the Salomons do. I broke the Salomon in with 4 1/2 laps of Puttenham Common (14 miles) and they soon felt like a pair of slippers, but gave a good grip on all surfaces.
Post by: Polar Bear on 21 October, 2017, 10:04:18 am
In other news: I'm up to 3k now. Loving it. :thumbsup:
Sticking to tarmac at the moment of course.
Post by: Polar Bear on 22 October, 2017, 10:40:53 am
Eldest cub bought a pair of trail shoes recently and didn't get on with them as ehy were a bit flappy for him. I asked him what size they are and they are my usual size. He's just dropped them off and guess what? They are the very same brand and model that I bought recently but one was too tight around the area where the toes meet the rest of the foot (I'm sure it has a proper name but hey, I'm not a medic!).
Anyway, I try them on, left foot (bigger foot) first. That pretty much fits as on the pair I rejected so I thought hmmm, they'll be the same. However, right foot also fits nicely. How utterly strange.
Examining the shoes against my old Asics 2070's I note that the lace section is shorter on the new Asics Somono 3's and thus the toe box is deeper. This I think is the crucial difference causing the variation and ultimately the issue. If I can be arsed I'll write to Asics but I guess that they'll not bother with an old whinging goat like me.
Post by: Polar Bear on 23 October, 2017, 04:52:11 pm
I was right about those laces though...
Post by: handcyclist on 25 October, 2017, 09:21:19 am
I've just got a new pair of Salomon Speedcross 4s......
Another vote for Speedcross 4s ...... superb grip in wet/mud. Not waterproof but dry fast. Just don't use them on hard surfaces too often as the sole will wear quickly on concrete or tarmac.
Post by: Quisling on 25 October, 2017, 09:29:01 am
Post by: wolarry on 03 November, 2017, 07:32:32 am
Post by: Polar Bear on 03 November, 2017, 07:44:18 am
The Sonomos seemed to lack grip on tarmac but I've used them for a few runs now and the traction seems to have improved. I'm guessing that they have scrubbed in. :D :thumbsup:
Post by: harvey on 03 November, 2017, 10:14:03 am
Post by: yanner on 03 November, 2017, 10:34:39 am
If you have a wide foot look at Altra. Weird to look at and with 0mm drop can take some getting used to but you'll not find a toe box this roomy anywhere else.
I find Inov8's run very small to size, similar to Hoka's and Shimano road (never tried an spd sandal), that might be just me. T'missus loves her Salomons but I can't get on with the narrow heel.
Post by: sojournermike on 03 November, 2017, 12:25:50 pm