Help with frame related questions

[rcbprk]

Thanks Dave, much appreciated. Its made it as far as the west end of Newcastle so I'm happy to keep in in the North East.

[D.A.L.E.]

Trying very hard to not buy this... Shed any light on this Dave?

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Sorry, without a frame number and size it is just another frame. If you can get said details I can help with  date and other limited details. I might have the original order form but unlikely as most of them were lost in a flood when we moved from Wallsend

[D.A.L.E.]

Fair. I was just looking for any clue as to what it was/when it was from. I can make out Machine on the top tube and that's about it. Will update if I buy it. Cheers.

[fwevans]

is it possible to change the steerer tube on some forks from 1 inch to 1 1/8 inch? or is that not good for the forks' longevity? Saw some 853 touring forks that I was thinking of maybe using on a bike frame. thanks

[rogerzilla]

Impossible.  You'd need a new crown with a 1 1/8" steerer socket, so you'd be rebuilding the entire fork.

[fwevans]

Ok thank you for telling. Learnt something new, though now I look at it, it is simple

[rogerzilla]

There are reducing rings that allow you to use a 1" fork in a 1 1/8" head tube but there's little point; a 1 1/8" fork is stiffer where it matters.  Most 1 1/8" forks are threadless and most 1" forks are threaded, just to throw in an extra complication.

Quill stems look nice, and most of my bikes have them, but a threadless setup is technically much better and you can really feel the extra stiffness.  A quill stem is only attached at its very bottom and moves a lot during riding.  You can tell this from the way a freshly fitted quill stem pumps grease out of the headset top nut!

[onerousdeporte]

Any idea of the frame manufacturer that puts the serial number on the seat post part of the frame and the number start with NG.

The frame has a Raleigh head badge.

EDIT: It is a nottingham built 1974 raleigh. From here https://www.jaysmarine.com/TH_raleigh_serials.html

[onerousdeporte]

Does anyone know about the Joe Waugh M Steel bicycle frame numbering?

Bought this and people have mentioned that it looks very like an M steel build bike.

The frame number starts with mf, so is it an M steel bike, is there anyway I can tell?

[Korri]

Hola, me llamo David, soy de España y tengo un cuadro JOE WAUGH y busco información,
pero nunca he usado un foro y no sé cómo poner fotos El número de cuadro es MS379
Gracias!

[Blodwyn Pig]

Hj Dave , are you still there?  Am I right in thinking you built Pearson frames?  If so I have one, 22" 531 ST , 120 spacing at the rear, cantilevers, no upper rack mounts, no fork mounts, I'm thinking late 70's.Untitled by mark tilley, on Flickr
by mark tilley, on Flickr

I think that says 1713
The cantilever bosses appear to be cubes rather than post where they attached. One of yours?

[Bicycle Repair Man]

Hj Dave , are you still there?  Am I right in thinking you built Pearson frames?  If so I have one, 22" 531 ST , 120 spacing at the rear, cantilevers, no upper rack mounts, no fork mounts, I'm thinking late 70's.Untitled by mark tilley, on Flickr
by mark tilley, on Flickr

I think that says 1713
The cantilever bosses appear to be cubes rather than post where they attached. One of yours?

Hi Mark

Just found this, I sometimes get notifications about posts but in this instance not !
Alas, not one of ours. 1713 was an Audax frame built late Jan  1986 which was long before we started building for Pearsons. All the components of the frame look fairly generic for the late 70s there were a few builders turning out stuff like this around that time

[Blodwyn Pig]

Ok thanks Dave, out of interest, how does 1713 relate to late Jan ‘86 ?

[Bicycle Repair Man]

The main number sequence starts with the first frame I built in 1976, 001. It continues through to 11553, a Condor, the last frame I built at Steel's in 2005. There were a couple of  subsidiary sequences over the years, about 20 to 30 of the first 753's had a number starting DY753. All the Flying Scot frames we made for Dales in Glasgow were prefixed FS and I seem to remember some  touring frames had the prefix MS. All the Condor frames had their own number stamped on the bb but were logged in our system under our number. I still have the original order books apart from a few pages missing from the first one although I do remember the first one I made at the workshop in East Howdon was 072. Given a number I can give date ordered, date invoiced, type, tube and size. We lost most of the original order forms in a flood just as we were moving out of the Wallsend workshop in 2005. I reckon that, including all the frames made here in the last 18 years I have made, persoally, about 4000 and been responsible for around 15000 all told.