Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => The Knowledge => Camping It Up => Topic started by: rogerzilla on 19 August, 2010, 06:14:13 pm
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Just wondering what people use for tent, mat, sleeping bag and stove for a weekend jaunt. This isn't meant to be a review thread, just to see what the modern cycle-camper is using. You can, however, rate stuff out of 10 if you like.
Tent: Eurohike Backpacker 1-2 man (cheap but pretty light)
Mat: Gelert 3/4 self-inflating mat
Bag: Snugpak Travelpak Lite
Stove: Coleman 550B petrol stove or HiGear Blaze gas stove (for one night trips). Did use a cheap Camping Gaz stove but it was deeply unsatisfactory once the cartridge was less than half full.
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Tent: Argos Pro-Action 2kg £14.99 in 2004 (apparently a copy of a £300 North Face one)
Mat: Queccahauauua? self inflating little blue one from Decathlon
Bag: Snugpak Travelpak Extreme
Stove: McDonalds / pub unless I'm in the car; in extremis an old Camping Gaz Bluet
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Tent: Vango Banshee 200
Mat: Vango Adventure Self Inflating Mat
Bag: Blacks Quad 4
Stove:Camping.co.uk Hard Anodized Camping Cook Set little Trangia copy
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For 2
Tent: Blacks Octane 3 Absolutely FABULOUS Hilleberg Nallo 2 GT :D :D :D :D :D
Mat: Exped Synmat 7DLX
Bag: Mountain Equipment XXL with one insert (we slimmed, it used to be 2 8))
Winter Bag: Rab 1100 and Rab 600 zipped together Or mountain equipment one inside a double bag.
Stove: Primus Gravity
When it was just me
Tent: Hilleberg Nallo 2
Mat: Exped downmat 7 in summer, 9 in winter
Bag: Rab quantum 600 in summer and (?)summit 1100 in winter
Stove: MSR (i think) titan. It's tiny, anyway :D
Edited to add: pillows: Ajungilak comfort pute :)
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Tent: Argos Pro-Action. Awesome value for ~20 quid. I intend to get something with room for panniers and/or a barakta at some point, though.
Mat: Alpkit Regular Airic. Heavy at about 960g, but thick enough that I can sleep on my side without hip/shoulder pain. A good night's sleep is worth a lot of weight. Realistically, the only alternative I'd give serious consideration to would be the Downmat.
Bag: Karrimor rectangular synthetic thing. Huge and heavy, but my lower back doesn't get on with mummy bags. Lightweight rectangular down sleeping bags seem to be unobtanium, unfortunately.
Stove: Trangia 27 series. Not being a tea/coffee drinker, I've no particular need for high-speed hot water, and you know where you are with liquid fuels.
Stool: Coleman Exponent. I really need to rest my knee in a neutral position after a day's riding, this is by far the best option I've found.
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We don't travel light.
Tent: Hilleberg Nammatj 3GT - a veritable palace for two cycle tourists!
Mat: Exped Downmat 7
Pillow: Ajungilak Exped inflatable pillow
Bag: Snugpak Softie 9 for colder trips, otherwise Snugpak Softie Kilo
Stove: Trangia 25
If I was wandering alone I'd take a smaller tent such as my Terra Nova Solar 2 or even my bivvy bag, and a Trangia 27, otherwise the same. Comfort is very important when sleeping.
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Tent: Hilleberg Unna
Mat: Thermarest ProLite 3
Bag: Fjällräven P 5 XL
Stove: Camping-Koch-Set (Trangia clone from Lidl)
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Tent: Hilleberg Unna
Mat: Thermarest ProLite 4
Bag: RAB Quantum 400
Stove: Tiny Markhill gas stove, cannot recall model, plus tripod. Very small pan.
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Tent - Terra nova: Solar.
Bag - Mountain equipment: Dewline.
Mat - Alpkit: Slim Airic.
Stove - Primus: Eta express.
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Tent - Terra Nova Solar 2.2
Mat - Big Agnes Insulated air mat (Like the Exped Synmat)
Bag - Jacks R Better camping quilt
Stove - Jetboil
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Here is my equipment list: Equipment (http://www.bikepacker.co.uk/List.htm)
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Tent - Argos pro action 1 man (same as Kim's) cost ~ £17
Mat - Generic foam (I have a self inflating one but it's too big & heavy) cost ~ £5
Bag - Tesco ultralight down bag cost ~ £20
Stove - Lidl Trangia copy (I have a real trangia but it's getting too battered) cost ~ £7
Actually, if it is just me, I usually wild camp and would use the breathable bivi-bag instead of the tent - Bivi-bag bought in sales for ~ £15 :o
Cheapskate, Moi? :P
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Tent: Macpac Microlite
Mat: Thermarest Prolite 3/4
Bag: Alpkit 2 season down or Mountain Equipment 3 season synthetic, with a silk liner if needed.
Stove: Primus ETA Express
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On my ownio:
Tent: Terra Nova Laser
Mat: Exped Downmat 7DLX
Bag: Lafuma Extreme 800 in summer and a huuuge old Survival Aids synthetic mountain job out of season. I'm probably going to invest inna proper Alpkit down bag, though.
Stove: Clickstand S-2 (http://www.clikstand.com/p_clikstands.html) with Tatonka stainless meths burner, nested inside Snow Peak 1400 and 900 Ti pots.
With Julian:
Tent: Just bought a Nallo 3GT
Mat: As above
Bag: As above
Stove: Julian's Trangia 27 kit, supplemented by my Snow Peak Gigapower Ti stove.
Out of all this gear, the thing I rave about the most is the Downmat. Quite simply, it's revolutionised my enjoyment of camping. As someone who prefers to sleep on her side, I've gone from sleeping badly on Thermarests and the like, to getting fabulous nights of sleep every single time. Twice the weight of my Prolite 3 and worth every single gram.
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Tent - Hilleberg Akto - expensive, but I've had 10 years of use from it and it's never let me down. Have recently bought a Golite Shangri La and am still a little unsure about it.
Sleeping bag - A Marmot Atom for warm conditions and a Marmot Helium for cold. The Helium was bought for the Himalaya and is overkill for much else! A silk liner always goes with me as well.
Mat - I've gone from a standard Thermarest to a Downmat then to a Neoair. Both the Downmat and Neoair blow the thinner mats away. Also use an Ajungilak inflatable pillow
Stove - Trangia 27 with an extra pan from the mini as well. If it's just an overnight trip I've got a tiny Primus gas stove and MSR Titan kettle.
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Tent - Saunders Spacepacker - a couple of big porches and stable in the wind.
Mat - Alpkit Regular Airic - nive and comfy, if a bit heavy.
Bag - Snugpac Kilo Softie plus liner for colder nights
Stove - Swedish Army Surplus Trangia - cheap but heavy, not used for every trip.
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By myself -
Tent - Lightwave T1 Trek
Mat - Thermarest, but I might need to reconsider, reading this!
Bag - Snugpack Softie, either autumn or winter, depending
Stove - a teeny wee Coleman one
with Corvine -
Tent - Black's Octane 3
Stove - Primus Gravity
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Tent: Mega Light - Shelter - Black Diamond Equipment, Ltd. (http://www.blackdiamondequipment.com/en-us/shop/mountain/shelters/mega-light) Sometimes I bring the floor, sometimes I use a sheet of plastic. Very lightweight, but room to sit up, cook, hang laundry to dry, etc.
Mat: Therma Rest ProLite 3. Not as light as a foam pad, but more compact and more comfortable
Sleeping bag: Marmot Atom w/ silk liner. I have a Western Mountaineering down bag for somewhat colder temps (-10 degrees C), but the Atom is fine for the weather I encounter cycle touring. Silk liners are great, they add a bit of warmth and keep the bag clean.
Stove: Trangia 27-5 (non-stick pots and fry pan). White gas stoves are great for cold weather, but I like the sheer simplicity of an alcohol stove. I've used gas cartridge stoves, but finding the right cartridges can be a nuisance in some countries.
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Old army basha
Goretex bivvy bag
Snugpak lightweight sleeping bag
Karrimat
Trangia mini.
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Tent - Vango Phantom 150
Mat - thermarest full size
Bag - Mountain equip Dreamcatcher 500
Stove - Colemans lightweight petrol + Camping Gaz
Trailer - BoB Yak
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Terra Nova Explorer (travel light? pfeh!)
Snugpak 4-season / Highlander lightweight cheapie
...and then it lightens up as it shares with my walking gear:
Thermalite ultralite 3/4
Snow peak gigapower and ti cookset
:smug: TITANIUM SPORK :smug:
(sorry, I just love that spork)
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Tent: Terra Nova Laser Competition - Stupidly light, and I've replaced the supplied Titanium wire pegs with some sensible Ti pegs. I also tend to carry a footprint for it, since even the material of the ground sheet feels like you could wear through it rubbing it between two fingers!
Mat: Thermarest Prolite 3 - Which is currently in the "to be repaired" pile since it's got a puncture. I used my older Thermarest for the last couple of trips, but it's more than twice the size of the Prolite 3 one.
Sleeping Bag: The North Face Kilo (Long) for summer use. It's rated as comfortable down to 4°C, and I tend to find it a bit too warm in the summer. For cooler weather I've also got a cheap(ish) Technicals Catalyst 550, which is rated as comfortable down to -5°C, but is about twice the volume of the Kilo (both are down, you can't beat it for compressibility).
Stove: I can't remember what the brand is, but it's a gas stove with a cable to the cannister, which I find more stable than one's which use the cannister as part of their stand. It also has an integrated Piezo lighter which saves faffing with matches (which I carry anyway, redundancy!)
Pillow: Ajungilak inflatable - fairly light and small, so only a tiny compromise on lightweightness.
I don't have a spork yet, but I have one on order. If I'm lucky it'll arrive in the post tomorrow.
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Tent: Hilleberg Akto
Sleeping Bag: PHD Minim 300, silk liner
Mat: TR Neoair short
Stove: Edelrid Opilio (remote canister gas), MSR Ti panset
Pillow: Exped inflatable
(all goes in the Camper Longflap :thumbsup:
[2017 update]
The mat has been swapped for a full length XTherm. The (original) Neoair was a bit marginal once it got down close to zero, and Neoairs are enough thicker than Prolite self-inflating mats that the drop off the end is less acceptable.
The pillow has been swapped for a Sea to Summit Aeros premium, after I popped the Exped by sitting half on it. I prefer the Aeros - it's got more face-comfortable material, and a modicum of insulation.
[2019 update]
The sleeping bag has (mostly) been swapped for a quilt - Cumulus L430 Comforter.
I'm now using an MSR Windpro II stove - a much better simmer than the Opilio.
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Tent: Quechua Ultralight T2 Pro - light enough for me and not too coffin-like.
Mat: Thermarest Prolite 3
Bag: Snugpak Travelpak Lite (with a silk liner for added versatility)
Pillow: Snugpak Snuggy pillow
Stove: Trangia 25
and a [plastic] spork!
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Stove - Lidl Trangia copy (I have a real trangia but it's getting too battered) cost ~ £7
whenabouts in the year do they have these on sale? they had a few camping odds and sods today but no stoves
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Tent Vaude MKII Light
Mat Thermarest 3/4
Bag deuter TrekLite 350
Stove choice or Whisperlite or Camping Gaz
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Tent Quechua Ultralight T3 Pro for dry conditions or Vango Equinox 250 when its likely to rain.
Mat Alpkit regular Airic
Bag Vango Ultralight 400
Stove Trangia 25-1 UL
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Tent Vango Spirit 200+
Mat Thermarest
Bag Alpkit down
Stove MSR Pocket Rocket (gas)
I like all my kit :thumbsup:
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Tent: Coleman Coastline 2
Mats: Gelert 3/4
Bag: Eurohike 200
Stoves: Coleman F1
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Tent - TN Laser Competition
Sleeping bag - Rab Summit 300
Mat - Thermarest Prolite Regular
Stove - MSR Whisperlite
Pretty happy with it all, though wouldn't mind a stove that's slightly easier to simmer with.
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Tent - TN Laser Competition
Sleeping bag - Rab Summit 300
Mat - Thermarest Prolite Regular
Stove - MSR Whisperlite
Pretty happy with it all, though wouldn't mind a stove that's slightly easier to simmer with.
If you like coleman fuel and/or MSR stuff, the Dragonfly and the Simmerlite will both simmer. The Dragonfly simmers very well, and the simmer control helps with re-lighting a warm stove. It's quite loud, though, and heavier and more expensive than the other MSR stoves. I've never tried (or seen) a Simmerlite.
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My Coleman stove simmers fine (I cooked quite a few meals on it last week to practice) but it is a bit scary on lighting up and needs frequent pumping if run near full power.
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Tent: North Face Roadrunner 22 9/10
Matt: Thermarest standard - about 15 years old.
Sleeping bag: Down prototype made when I worked for Field and Trek 25 years ago. 9/10
Stove: Trangia (small) 10/10
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Stove - Lidl Trangia copy (I have a real trangia but it's getting too battered) cost ~ £7
whenabouts in the year do they have these on sale? they had a few camping odds and sods today but no stoves
I only ever saw them a couple of times, 3 or 4 years ago.
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Tent: Wild Country duolite Tourer
er... that's it. Just bought it a couple of weeks ago as I am hoping to get into camping at audaxes and a bit of touring. Still need to get the rest of the stuff necessary but may wait for Santa.
I was thinking of a Vango Venom 300 bag, anyone used one of these?
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Tent: Terra Nova Laser. Very light and kept me dry in some torrential rainstorms.
Mat: 'Moorhead' self-inflater (http://www.karstadt.de/Moorhead/Selfinflatingmatte-Family-II-schwarz/p/?pid=3643129&pfad=2973+884197+748244+866245+749503+794686) - bought in a Hamburg department store last month to replace a leaky old thermarest.
Sleeping bag: Snugpak Softie 3 merlin. Packs down very small and is just about warm enough for the worst of an average Northern European summer.
[Stove: I have a tiny gadget which screws into a butane cylinder but scarcely ever use it.]
Also: Lifeventure knife/fork/spoon set
That was what I took with me for my 2-month tour in Belgium, France and Germany. I might take other gear from my vast collection of tents, mats and sleeping bags for other destinations and times of year.
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Tent - T2 Ultralight Pro. Bought in a Decathlon sale for 40 or 50 quid. Can probably buy a better tent but I can't imagine getting anything much better value. Had three weeks touring on the continent in summer, sunshine - plenty of ventilation never got too hot, rain - sturdy and well put together everything nice and dry, all sorts and can't find a fault with it.
Sleeping bag - Random Blacks mummy in a sale for about 25 quid. Only thing unusual is that I bought an XXXL size. It's big, I mean really big, enough for someone 6' 8" and 30 stone, so me at 5' 11" and 14 stone fair rattled about in it. Makes it a bit bulky but even zipped up there's room to move about in your sleep, I seem to do a lot of that and this thing alleviated all my night troubles. On holiday when it got warm the whole thing unzips to make a nice comfy duvet. Very pleased with it
Mat - Exped synmat, the dearer one with built in pump. Awesome, narrow but on the whole almost as comfy as my bed at home. Good job really because it cost almost as much as my bed at home.
Stove - Coleman dual fuel. Took it on a weekend's test camping trip before the hols and decided it's too heavy to be practical for one man touring so went away in the summer with nothing. Right decision.
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Tent - Lidl two-person 2.5kg £30ish
Mat - Thermarest full length
Sleeping bag - a summer or a winter option. Neither very light weight (ancient).
Stove - Trangia (£20 in sale) or Camping Gaz (ancient)
Coffee cup etc. (as of yesterday) - Keep Cup £3.95 from Scandinavian Kitchen in Little Tichfield Street including a coffee! I'll never need a disposable coffee cup again (until I lose the Keep Cup!).
Cutlery - Spork and swiss army penknife
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Currently:
Tent: Vaude Hogan (2-man job, but plenty roomy, when I've taken it on my own to backpackers' sites it has seemed a palace by comparison with the single-man coffins carried by solo backpackers).
Sleeping bag: Snugpak softie kilo.
Sleeping mat: Thermarest Neoair 3/4.
In future:
Tent: Hilleberg Akto
Sleeping bag: Snugpak softie kilo
Mat: Exped Downmat Synth. I haven't tried it mysel yet, though Sleepy seemed to approve when I lent him it at the Snow Roads. I'll probably keep using the Thermarest through the summer.
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Vango Spirit 200+. Vango 300 down bag. Exped downmat. Coleman gas stove with MSR pans. Will prob get some Trangia stuff at some stage.
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As I tend to tour only with the lady...
Tent: MSR Mutha Hubba HP (bought in Germany after Vango spirit 200+ only managed 6 weeks of touring before failing spectacularly)
Sleeping bags: Alpkit down
Mats: Exped synmat &, jealously until more money is made available, cheap Thermarest copy (Kathmandu). Also a pair of cheap Outland self inflating pillows - luxury!
Stoves: Bushbuddy and Mini trangia
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Tent: Octane 2
Sleeping Bags: Snugpack something, but soon to be an Alpkit 800
Stove: Snowpeak Giga Power
Pans: Titanium
Mat: Thermarest Prolight 3
......and a green spork
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Tent: Vango Hydra 200. (Approx 13-15 years old). 3kg
Mat: old thermarest classic, 3/4 length 730g
Sleeping bag(s): one cheap 1-season bag, packs small weighs 650g. One huge, heavy Eurohike Adventure 3 bag (fills one pannier, weight 2kg).
Stove: Trangia. 25 or 27 depending whether I'm catering for anyone else or not.
The tent is relatively heavy, and doesn't pack up particularly small, but I'm very fond of it - it's quick and easy to pitch, nice and warm in the cold, doesn't get to much condensation and is very roomy for one and adequate for 2. Unlike the newer versions of the Hydra, it pitches inner first, which could be an issue in the rain, but thankfully I've never had issues.
Both sleeping bags (and an additional thermarest) were used on the "freeze your bits off" camping. In the interests of travelling a bit lighter and a lot snaller, I've just ordered a Snugpak Softie Merlin 3 to replace the Eurohike bag.
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Tent: Vango banshee 200.
Mat: cheapie eurohike 3/4.
Bag: either karrimor 3 season thing (ex demo £5) or vintage top half down bottom half synthetic thing with nametape sewn in as I've had it since I was 13. It's warmer than the 3yr old karrimor.
Stove: don't bother usually. Not doing tea or coffee I'm not bothered enough if there's only me.
En famille huge 12 man vango plus coleman stove, and a trailer.
With him, his tent and stove. We don't like each other enough to share mats and bags.
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Tent - Saunders Spacepacker Plus. Supposedly a two man tent but, being tall I sleep diagonally in it. Loads of space for panniers and being able to open both ends means ventilation is a breeze. Very useful in hot climates or after a night on the beer. I bought the two man size as, sooner or later, you end up spending 24 hours in a tent and I wanted somewhere I could stretch out in. Not great in high winds though, flaps a bit and it blew flat once, although I hadn't pegged it down well.
Mat - Thermarest Prolite Plus. Blow this up quite firm and I get a good nights sleep on it.
Bag 1 - Mountain Equipment Dreamcatcher. Very good and thought out bag. The baffling and articulation of it means a great sleep.
Bag 2 - cheapo one from GoOutdoors (£4/5) for when I go to the South of France. Does a job, but only above 10 C.
Stove - Lidl copy of a Trangia (£7). Very good, although I use different pans to what came with the set. Like Trangias takes a while to boil water, but as soon as I arrive at a site I put the stove on, and by the time the tent is up the water is boiling. You can also carry a lot of fuel in a bottle cage.
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Tent: VauDe Mark ll Light; I searched for ages to find the perfect tent for me, I feel a bit claustrophobic in a smaller tent. One big advantage with this is that me and my recumbent trike fit in together if security is an issue. I got it cheap as well thanks to a dozy assistant at Blacks!
Bag: Alpkit Skyehigh 600, it's a bit warm and bulky but they were out of Pipedreams when I bought it.
Mat: Either an old Thermarest or Alpkit Airic. However, I don't find either of them that comfy so an Exped Synmat DLX is on my list for this year, providing I can sneak it under the radar if you know what I mean.
Stove: For donkeys years I used gas quite happily but dispassionately. Then I discovered Trangia. I adore my 27, I even made a pot cosy for it. And my kids won't eat porridge unless I've cooked it on the Trangia!
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Tent - me solo I use my Mountain Hardwear Helion 2, when it's the two of us, a North Face Fortress 23 - both great tents for different reasons. The Helion is very light weight and very strong indeed. The North Face is heavy, but is plenty huge enough with plenty of storage and spcae in the lobby.
Bag - Mountain Hardwear Phantom 32 - very light, 2 season bag - I want something a bit warmer, so I can camp earlier in the year - but not got the money at the moment!
Mat - Thermarest - can't remember which one, but it's done plenty of trips without any troubles at all.
Stove - Primus Gravity 2 multifuel - works well (though I tend to use canisters only on it) in all conditions, like most stoves of this sort, it doesn't do simmer that well - but it'll boil a pan of water sharpish.
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So, my cheap as chips foray into the camping world continues with the advice of you lot. Got the tent, roll (should be thermarest) trangia, kfs, spork, camping knife (don't get me arrested) and now turning to sleeping bag and should i renovate galaxy or buy trekking bike... mmmm) Couple of good wild camping vids out there and Gordy's ireland report was ace especially the sensible stuff bout folding stainless trowels and underwear.
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and Gordy's ireland report was ace especially the sensible stuff bout folding stainless trowels and underwear.
Ah yes. Stuff the panoramic views, the psychological challenge, the campfire bonhomie and navigating by the sun and moon.... lets talk about crapping and boils.
::-) ;D ;D ;D
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hoot made me laugh. I do however take Brooks bum seriously. Not to mention baskets.........and nine quid to get clean and dry just tells me the bankers are not alone.....
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Just invested in Alpkit sky high 600 and gamma headset. So hoping for some toasty nights. Not quite so cheap as chips but peeps seem to say buy the best bag etc etc.
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A nice touch from Alpkit was an enclosed personal note giving thanks for the order from 'Dave'. Can see me going back there.
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Tent: Either a Vaude Taurus Ultralight, if I have some distance to cover, or a Jack Wolfskin Dragon if I am only going a little way and need some room.
Sleeping bag: Mountain Equipment Lightline, with meraklon liner and waterproof outer (never actually needed) and Ajungilak compressible mini-pillow.
Thermarest three-quarter length.
Epigas/Coleman Alpine gas stove.
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Tent: Hilleberg Nallo 3GT:
Bag: Mountain Equipment Dragon 750
Mat: Thermarest Prolite 4
Stove: Trangia with gas convertor and MSR Pocket Rocket
Pans: MSR Titan Mugs & Kettle
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Snugpak Stratosphere Bivvy
3-season Karrimat
2-season down bag or maybe 1-season synthetic with down vest, pile socks etc for modularity
MSR Dragonfly stove
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Late in the season I know but trying to get hold of a lightweight folding gas stove with line ho hum. Everyone has sold out- its only August just.....
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Tent Hilleberg Akto - legendary quality - single pole - erects in under 5 mins - can sit on mat with headroom - packs small - 1.6 kgs
Mat Exped Downmat 7M - 1.83m (me 1.71m) - easy & quick to inflate & deflate - goose down for ground insulation & comfort - packs small - 860 gms
Bag Alpkit SkyeHigh 600 short - 1.9m - room to wriggle - goose down - toasty to minus 5o - packs small - weight inc stuffbag = 1.3 kgs
Stove Jetboil Flash - needs no windbreak - click2ignite - v fast/efficient - colour changes @ drinking temp - cook 'n eat via same cup - packs inside self - v small - 400 gms
Trailer Extrawheel 2.4 kgs + orig chunky wheel & tyre 2.1 kgs (inc skewer) + two x Ortlieb 40 litre Rear Rollers, together 1.9 kgs = orig total 6.4 kgs
- have temporarily replaced orig wheel with 'spare' Campag Khamsin with Conti GP4000S @ 1.3 kgs incl skewer = new temp total 5.6 kgs
- or poss handbuilt wheel (as bike) - StansNoTubes 340 rim, Am Classic Hub, Hutch Fusion 3 Tubeless Tyre - 860 gms = new total 5.2 kgs
- planning dynamo in handbuilt so back up to 1.3 kgs, but with power from trailer wheel, and great lights, and could charge batteries, yet still only 5.6 kgs
All the camping kit except stove just about fits in one of the back rollers, though in practice best to equalise weight either side if poss, and from test runs of some 400 kms, the Extrawheel is remarkably stable, since the panniers are very low down, (no need to avoid pedals and derailleurs), and it follows the bike track very closely, so even weaving through stupid scaffold pole slaloms on cycle paths is a breeze, provided you allow for the panniers, of course.
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I've been upgrading my bike camping kit after a bit of experience allowing me to identify what I actually need to make this an enjoyable pastime.
Tent - Hilleberg Nallo 2 GT. Loads of space with a massive porch but just over 2.5kg.
Sleeping bag - Alpkit Skyehigh 600 - the most comfortable sleeping bag I've ever used.
Sleeping mat - Exped Downmat 7 DLX - over £100 for a lilo (according to my wife) but combined with the Alpkit bag it has given me the best night's sleep in a tent I've ever had.
Stove - Trangia 27 with a gas converter - you can do real cooking with this and it boils waster in under 3 minutes. For ultra light camping where it is just for brews I've got a pocket rocket and 0.75l pot.
Now I just want to get back out on the road. I feel some October camping coming on.
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Tent - Vango Spirit 200+ (not used it yet)
Bag - Mountain Equipment Sleepwalker II (Superb design, you really need to try one to appreciate)
Mat - Alpkit airic
Stove - Campingaz Tristar (very stable, very cheap, big output and Piezo ignition).
None of my gear is exactly lightweight, it's all comfort-biased as I don't do so much cycle-camping.
I'm really looking forward to using the new tent though. The vast porch should make life easier.
Edit.
What worked:
Tent - Vango was superb and porch was used for mine and another's (who took a tiny tent) luggage overnight. It didn't rain so the huge living space didn't really get used but I know that life will be much more bearable if it ever does.
Sleeping bag and Mat. Both bulky but they make for a great night's sleep.
Stove. A defective cannister meant 50:50 reliability but, when it did work (by bashing cannister around a while) the Tristar was very quick to boil.
Pans. Non-stick was worse than useless. I need some decent pans. Omelette turned into scrambled egg and later, when washing, into concrete.
Panniers & Dry Bags - Worked perfectly. My tent, bag and mat were bulky and took up lots of space but, because of my new front Ortleibs, I didn't need to compress them. Bike handled like a dream fully loaded. A selection of Alpkit stuffsak/drybags made it easy to organise my stuff.
Chair - I didn't take one and I wish I had. I need to make something equivalent to the Thermarest chair for next time.
I took too many clothes so really I could have had a spare pannier. No big deal though. My sleep mat has it's own drybag on the rack, it's folded and not compressed. It looks huge on there but it doesn't weigh much.
Bar Bag was a late addition and I was stupid to ever consider not using one, they make "admin" so much easier.
Tarp - I bought some cheap 6x4, flimsy, tarps for the four of us. < £2 each and they proved a huge success. Very lightweight and made damp ground a non-issue. Probably the biggest bang:buck of all my gear.
UK Tarps (http://www.uktarps.com/tarpaulins/camouflage-tarpaulins)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-GMujtekU68s/T7o8WT9KMII/AAAAAAAAAKM/NZCpt3rDWC0/s640/Thorn%2520Raven%2520Luggage.jpg)
Overall a roaring success, I just got into a nice daily routine and the trip was over...typical.
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Tent: Terra-Nova Laser Comp 1
Bag: Vango Voyager 100 Lite
Liner: from Scottish Silk Worm
Mat: NeoAit Xtherm
Stove: don't have one, yet
Weight: 2.7kg
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Carradice camper with a nameless lightweight two season down sleeping bag that needs replacing, TN laserlite and lightweight thermorest clone that will be replaced by an exped downmat UL when I get round to it plus a change of clothes and wet weather gear. I carry a musette for buying grub for the night but no cooking stuff. All up including the bag, somewhere between 6-7kg depending on how much of the wet weather gear I'm wearing. Specc'd for some serious fast touring though my longest outing to-date is two nights. I'll let you know how it works out...
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When did a Butty bag become a Musette me wonders?
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When did a Butty bag become a Musette me wonders?
They're not really the same.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glossary_of_bicycling#musette
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Old army basha
...been there, done that :-)
Now:
Macpac Minaret 2-man tent (2.4kg)
Vango Planet 100 sleeping bags inc. compression sack (1.1kg)
Slim Airic self inflating sleeping mat (743g)
MSR Pocket Rocket cooker and case (112g)
Go System self sealing gas canister (226g)
Aluminium 2 pan cooking set (260g)
Bought the Macpac from ebay last year and finally got to use it this summer, thoroughly wet-weather tested and passed with flying colours. Also tried the Trekmates Flameless Cooking System flask which caught my eye in the shop the day before we left. I wouldn't have bought it if it had not been in a sale but it worked well, allowing us to make a morning hot drink inside the tent while is was p***ing down outside.
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Tent - Luxe Mini Peak II
Bag - Rab Ascent 700 over winter. Looking for a new summer bag.
Mat - Alpkit Airo 180 which I'm currently selling. Moving to a CCF mat, probably a Multimat Expedition Summit XL from Needlesports.
Stove - Fire Maple FMS-117T inside a a GSI Soloist panset. Was using a MSR Pocket Rocket, never got on with it, so I'm selling that too.
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Saunders Spacepacker Plus, Tesco footprint , tesco car heat reflector under Thermarest Neoair 4 season, winter double bag - Mountain Equipment Dream catcher 500 and Tesco down summer bag with thermo liner , summer just the liner and tesco bag ( £22 with vouchers) great bag , MRS Whisperlite and Go System remote gas burner . MRS titian pots /fry pan , gave up on sporks as just broke , Thermarest chair , Black Diamond headlight, Marmot pillow , alloy knife /fork , Ortleibs water bladder and front and rear Sport Packer panniers . If Bob Saunders upstairs is listening , what a great tent , had the first one 25 years ago , now almost white as spent a year sleeping in it and the new one just as good but bigger .
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Does Jack o'Newbury still exist? I remember their (his?) vans in the 1970s.
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Aventura 2 Man Dome Tent with porch
Halfords Mummy Sleeping Bag
Halfords Camping Mat
No stove yet
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Tent - Wild Contry Zephros 2 (1500 grams)
Bag - Snugpack Softie 3 Merlin (20 yrs old - still going strong) (900 grams)
Mat - Therm-a-rest Lite (also ~20 yrs old) (850 grams)
Stove - MSR Whisperlite Universal (~300 grams ex fuel)
Plus loads of other crap I really don't need!
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(http://media.tumblr.com/0a006e2bb169569240b1a0947d1d3c84/tumblr_inline_mv4c41iSck1qb73fo.gif)
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Looks like you need a folding spork :)
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Tent=mountain hardware spear gt2
Matt=exped Synmatt ul7
Quilt=enlightenment prodigy x 30 850 down.
Pillow =thermarest medium compressable
cooking,=small gas stove or petrol optimus.seve123.
bike=raleigh753.
saddle bag=carradice camper.
barbag=carradice super c.
i'm getting there slowly. O:-)
update
bike Terry Dolan Le Tape
carradice camper longflap saddlebag
experition rack
tent Naturehike cloud 2
latest addition Thorn Audax crackin bike .
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(http://25.media.tumblr.com/6d4143050c60c096356fcb82adf264aa/tumblr_mxp3ybb9t71qbu8mlo1_500.gif)
Updated...
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The spotty oven glove is much nicer than the stripped/checkered one. :demon:
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;D
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Tent: Vaude Hogan (2002 model)
Bag: Snugpak SF1 or SF2 depending on season
Mat: Exped Synmatt UL 7
Stove: MSR Whisperlite International
But progressing towards:
Tent: Vaude Power Lizzard UL
Stove: Evernew TI Solo set
J
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I was sorting out my cooking gear and thinking about getting a new panset, to try and fit all my gear into it, but I decided to experiment with the already nicely-nested Trangia bowls I have (and nick DFTW's idea). Seems to work alright, though it's not especially lightweight:
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/57044735/stoveout.gif)
The fuel bottle will be slung under the downtube, and the folding bowl can fit down the side of a pannier easily enough.
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I have a similar setup (I think.) MSR Whisperlite invernational stove (gas or white gas) trangia steel pans an Auzzie folding bowl, but no cup. Are those telescopic latex cups any good?
I like the steal trangias but the pans only fit in one another the same way round. I have the shallow frying pan but its a pain as a lid as there is no great way to tie it to the pans. The MSR stove doesn't fit in the pans but the folding (w/p fabric) bowl does with scotchbright and small bottle of washing up liquid.
Edit. Oh and I ditched the matches for a spark striker. Much more reliable than matches as I always seem to break the heads off instead of lighting them when they are struck.
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It's not an ideal set-up, but with the foil heat shield in the frying pan to act as padding and the Trangia strap around it, it seems to hold together quite well.
I do like the xmug. Mine has a crack in the lip, but so far it hasn't widened, and I'm happy to keep using it. It does have a slight aftertaste which I haven't managed to shift, but it's simply a morning caffeine delivery system, so I'll stick with it for the mo'.
Fire - I'm still on the fags and haven't quit (yet), so I always have alternative means of sparking a flame. I'd usually chuck my Zippo in there, as that creates enough of a spark, even without fuel in the lighter, to ignite the stove.
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Updated.
Tent. Wild Country Zephros 1500gms
Bag. Rab Neutrino 400 520gms
Mat. Hylite Peak Oyl lite petit. 380gms
Stove. MSR Whisperlite. 300gms.
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Tent: Generally, no - Alpkit Rig 3.5 tarp with titanium pegs and 2.5mm Dyneema guy lines and a Hunka XL bivvy bag. I do have a Vango Banshee 200 for when I do need to use a tent, though.
Bag: Snugpak Traveller Lite with silk liner. I also have a Vango 3-season bag of some description but rarely use it
Mat:Thermarest NeoAir Lite, medium
Stove: Depends - varies between an Esbit Ti stove (9g), a Whitebox meths burner (29g) or a Ti Pocket Stove if I'm in biomass burning mode.
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Tent: Eureka Moonshadow Solo XP
Bag: Eurohike down bag
Mat: Gelert self inflating (sort of) matTherm-a-rest Neoair Camper
Stove: Trangia Mini
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Tent: Wild Country Zephyros 2 Lite
Bag: Karrimor X-Lite 1-2 season
Mat: Karrimor X-Lite full self inflating (ish)
Stove: Primus ETA Lite
Why can't any company spell 'light' any more?
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Tent: Coleman Epsilon 2
Bag: Karrimor Global 700 or 900 (unless it's quite cold, in which case I have some heavier ones)
Mat: Thermarest
Stove: Don't really need one of those 'cos, after I've cycled to camp, either the Scouts cook for the leaders on wood, or someone has taken a gas double burner ;D
However, I do seem to end up carrying loads of stuff I wouldn't have if solo, such as walking boots and paperwork, so I typically need front and rear panniers, plus a rack pack and sometimes a bar bag.
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Updated:
Tent: Wild Country Zephyros 2 Lite
Bag: Karrimor X-Lite 1-2 season
Mat: Karrimor X-Lite full self inflating (ish) Exped Synmat Hyperlite M + Schnozzel Pumpbag UL M.
Stove: Primus ETA Lite
Nothing wrong with the Karrimor mat at all. I just needed to recover a bit of volume for other kit on an upcoming longer trip.
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Tent: Terra Nova Laser Comp 1 0.97kg
Bag: Thermarest Auriga duvet 0.67kg
Mat: Thermarest NeoAir XTherm 0.57kg
Stove: MSR Pocket Rocket gas stove 0.11kg
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@Aunt Maud.
How good is that Duvet system? I like the idea of some leg room, mummy bags kill me.
Going to pull the trigger on an Xthrem also, large size.
Is your's large or medium? Will duvet work with both you reckon?
Thanks.
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How good is that Duvet system? I like the idea of some leg room, mummy bags kill me.
Going to pull the trigger on an Xthrem also, large size.
Is your's large or medium? Will duvet work with both you reckon?
I've been using the duvet for about 4 years. I like it because I used to have to have a mummy bag spread open and then fight the baffles, hood and zips all night. Lack of these features also makes the duvet very compact for packing. The xtherm mat has a tapered end so will easily fit in the foot of the duvet. I have a large square ended Neoair Trekker mat which just about goes in. I have also used it with a tapered regular mat, no problems.
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Maybe I don't need the XL then.
I'm only 170 / 5'7" :D
Ps. Just remembered.......it's the extra 5" width I'm interested in.
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For two
Tent: Hilleberg Nallo GT
Bag: 2x Snugpak Travelpack lite - opened up and zipped together as a duvet, with an elasticated bedsheet over the mats
Mat: 2 x Exped Synmat UL7
Stove: Trangia 27 with gas conversion and hard anodised pans.
Luxuries: 2 x Mayfly Alite chairs
Tesco 8 cup cafetiere (yes it's glass but I try not to drop the bike on that side)
Folding picnic rug to use as carpet in the tent porch
Probably not the lightest set up but enough to cope with for the short(ish) tours we do at present.
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I like the idea of some leg room, mummy bags kill me.
The Mountain Equipment Dreamcatcher bags are another solution to this: It's an approximately rectangular bag (with shaped foot and hood areas) with elasticated baffles in the leg section, so it shrinks up and defaults to a mummy shape for warmth, except when you lie with your legs apart. I find it invaluable for being able to stretch my knee during the night, but it's also a massive win for general wriggling, and works somewhat better as a duvet than most mummy bags (the hood still gets in the way thobut).
It's a brilliant idea, so obviously they've discontinued them. :(
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I was out at the weekend and found my Deuter bag, end, surprisingly roomy after all.
Might hold out for a while actually.
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Tent - MSR Hubba Hubba or a 3x3m DD tarp.
Sleeping bag - Robens 300 down bag or a Snugpak synthetic filled thing. Both are too thin really, so I ought to upgrade or try the two together. Fake silk bag liner. I also have an ex-Army Arctic bag which I have yet to use, but it weighs the best part of 2kg.
Mat - Thermarest Z-lite. I need something thicker really as a side sleeper.
Stove - A choice of many: MSR Whisperlite, MSR Dragonfly, Optimus SVEA 123R, Optimus Polaris, Optimus 8R, Optimus 111, Soto Muka, Alpkit Brukit, Jetboil Flash and a few screw in gas stoves including an Optimus Crux.
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~5 lb/10 L ultra-light kit
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5173/29945521895_4fda18d022_b.jpg)
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~5 lb/10 L ultra-light kit
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5173/29945521895_4fda18d022_b.jpg)
That's an impressively light and compact kit.
Is that a convertible quilt/poncho?
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That's an impressively light and compact kit.
Is that a convertible quilt/poncho?
Thank you, yes it's a down quilt with velcro head hole for a poncho/serape - just for chilly evenings/mornings at the campsite. Jacks-R-Better Sierra Stealth 2 season, they have warmer versions. The tent also doubles as a rain poncho, but for bicycling, that's not such a great thing if you are a fast rider (I'm not).
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Thanks.
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Simply light designs Trail lair hammock and a Trail Haven tarp. Montbell down hugger #5 sleeping bag (left unzipped and used as a topquilt) and a UGQ underquilt. I sleep like a baby, and it is all too light to bother taking out the scales.
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Tent: Eureka Spitfire 1 Or Hunka bivvy (s) and tarp if wet.
Mat: Thermarest Neo Air Trekker (r) or old 3/4 Thermarest self inflator
Bag: 1 or 3 season Vango or Thermarest Corus quilt
Pillow: Spare clothes in a stuff sack.
Stove: Trangia with meths, Primus with white spirit or Krakau with gas
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just completed my '1st cycle camping kit' purchases.
TENT: Coleman Aravis 2 2.4kg ( on special £60 free p+p) new!
MAT: Thermarest Prolite regular 480g ( on special £51.82 free p+p) new!
BAG: Eurohike 500 down 3/4 1.18kg (on special £42 free p+p) new!
could have spent soooo much more, bit its a learning curve for me.
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Just the meths stove to get then :thumbsup:
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Just the meths stove to get then :thumbsup:
Ah! i have an old (20+ year old) triangia copy and an alluminium (MSR ?) fuel bottle with screw top, but not sure I would want to cook. I like a coffee in the morning etc, but all the faff of cooking, not sure. Ah that's 'thread worthy'. :thumbsup:
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I've too much camping kit :-[
For summer (well roughly May to late September depending on what the weather's doing)
Mat: Exped Winterlite Synmat
Bag: Cumulus 150 quilt
Tarp: Alpkit Rig3.5 + poles and pegs.
Cooking: Home made meths stove with an Alpkit 600ml mug
I might add
Bivy bag: Borah Gear lightweight bivy - this has an inbuilt midge net and has a pullout to hang from the underside of the tarp.
That lot's about 1.5kg, if I want to go ultra light then I've a cuben fibre tarp and bivy bag and a lighter mat and the weight drops to 900g but that's pretty minimalist.
If my wife is with me then the tarp gets upgraded to an Alpkit Rig7 - the smaller one is OK but it's a bit of a squeeze! Once we get to the colder months then I'll add a PHD Minim 200 sleeping bag and use it in conjunction with the quilt. I've also got a Terra Nova Lasercomp but now that I use the Exped mat there's not a lot of room in there - with Karrimats we could both kip in it if we slept end to end.
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I'm new here. I did a bit of camping last year but intend a bit more this year. I ride a Brompton. I have found that if I bag the bike and take a Rucksack and the big front bag, they let me on the buses so can start far from home. I consider myself a Gentleman camper. Even on a day out I carry my stove (Jetboil Flash), for hot drinks, my frying pan and my 1 KG chair. I am a young 63 so comfort is important.
I carry a rucksack on the back of the boke with the restof the camping geat. Tent is MSR Elixier 2 a trifle heavy but lots pf space. Sleeping bag is a small Snugpack Travel Pack 2. I have tested this and it is good for me down to 3 deg C and packs small. Sleeping mat is Decatthon air bed very small adain cheap but a bit heavy at 0.5kg. Titanium mugs and spork and hand crochet mug cosies. Hope to learn a bit more hete.
Cheers Brian.
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Welcome, Brian :)
I like the sound of the crocheted mug cosies!
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So what do you do when you have a bad cold and can't do anything? Answer look at too many cycling blogs. So I have decided that as my last aluminium water bottle died, its fallen out lots of times got dinted and final corroded through and leaked into my bag. So I I look at what the hardcore do, they use standard lemonade bottles. As I have now ruined 2 metal bottles in about a year its time to try a 79p Lucazade bottle. NOT becuse its cheap of course, but to save about 3 to 4 oz (75 to 100 grms) ;-). Plus I have to save the weight as I replace my unsued (for about 4 years) terciary lighting backup for the Jetboil :- its own lighter, disposable lighter and finaly flint and steel). In addition I may need to carry Lard. I have a Jetboil frying pan. Its been a pain, always burning despite conditioning. However re-reading and putting a tin cap domed down to stop the hot spot and ising Lard to condition the surface I cooked an egg as if it was a non-stick pan. Then tried bacon with cooking oil and it failed. So next attempt with the pan conditione again, is bacon with LARD to fry. Apprently LARD is now back in the "good" books. Sad fact I have spent way too much time on KIT I think that is almost more of the atttraction then the actual cycle camping.
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I'm new here. I did a bit of camping last year but intend a bit more this year. I ride a Brompton. I have found that if I bag the bike and take a Rucksack and the big front bag, they let me on the buses so can start far from home. I consider myself a Gentleman camper. Even on a day out I carry my stove (Jetboil Flash), for hot drinks, my frying pan and my 1 KG chair. I am a young 63 so comfort is important.
I carry a rucksack on the back of the boke with the restof the camping geat. Tent is MSR Elixier 2 a trifle heavy but lots pf space. Sleeping bag is a small Snugpack Travel Pack 2. I have tested this and it is good for me down to 3 deg C and packs small. Sleeping mat is Decatthon air bed very small adain cheap but a bit heavy at 0.5kg. Titanium mugs and spork and hand crochet mug cosies. Hope to learn a bit more hete.
I have done a fair amount of touring on a Brompton, my setup on the bike looks like this:
(http://photos.quixotic.eu/Luxembourg-2015-08/cycletour/touringbrompton01_sm.jpg)
The above photo I was wild camping in a bivvi in the Benelux, but I've also used a full size tent with it too:
(http://photos.quixotic.eu/IoM/XT1A3458_1024.JPG)
The first trip I took the bike on a train, a ferry, a bus, a train, a train, and then rode it... For the second photo to get there I did, tram, train, train, bus, ride, ferry, ride, train, *sleep*, train, ride, train, train, ferry, ride, lift in a car.
Brompton's are great...
J
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quixoticgeek, sorry for a slow reply. great kit. This is my latest set up.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/56805875@N03/26900647127/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/56805875@N03/26900646457/in/dateposted-public/
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quixoticgeek, sorry for a slow reply. great kit. This is my latest set up.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/56805875@N03/26900647127/in/dateposted-public/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/56805875@N03/26900646457/in/dateposted-public/
Ah, the infamous wooden dowel and backpack approach. I really must try this on my Brommie, I already have a suitable backpack, but with my DIY ineptitude I haven't quite figured out how to create the dowel support - do you have some close-up photos of your contraption, so that I can see how it's done? I have a Brooks B17 on mine if it makes any difference.
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A cut up wooden broom handel works , you need to set it up so its just a bit longer than the straps 0n your bag when they are either side of the saddle. I use 5mm wide cable ties to hold it in place using the eyes on the back seat.
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First bike camping trip for me last weekend.
Tent: Araer 2 person.
Basically a cheap ripoff of an MSR Hubba Hubba. Packs fairly small and weighs 1900g. It held up pretty well in the wind we had at the weekend too. There was quite a bit condensation on the inner of the fly but we camped beside a river and it was cold and damp so I'll forgive it that. Aside from the fact it's bright yellow and bugs seem to love it, I'm quite pleased with it for £50.
Bag: Snugpak Travelpak 3.
I think the -3c comfort rating might be wildly optimistic. Just started to feel a slight chill on my upper half and although it was unseasonably cold, it was nowhere near freezing.
Mat: Karrimor/Gelert Z sleepmat.
Another cheap ripoff, this time of a Thermarest Zlite. Bulky, but light, comfortable and warm. This will be the first thing I replace though. Can't deal with the bulk.
Stove: BSR 300t
Tiny tiny little stove. Quite like this too, but it is very susceptible to the slightest breeze, so a windscreen is a must. I made one from an oven liner which works a treat. There have been reports of the legs bending on some of these if you run it full blast with a heavy pot for more than 15 minutes. Boils 750ml in about 6 minutes though, so fine for solo camping. 25g and a tenner.
Cookset: Stanley Adventure cookset, Tatonka stainless mug, cheap foldable spork.
Love this set up. The Stanley pot nests inside the mug, with small fuel canister, stove, spork, salt & pepper, tea bags etc nesting inside the pot. The lid of the pot fits the mug too, handy for boiling enough for a cuppa.
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Tent: Hilleberg Akto: Saunders Jetpacker: Army surplus bivvy bag: Golite Shangri La chinese copy
Mat: Thermarest crisp bag, thermarest foam, soon to have Naturehike built in pillow allieexpress jobbie
Bag: Winter Haglofs dpwn; Spring Golite down: Summer Mont Bell twist down & soon a Aegismax alieexpress down
Stove: 22 years with a pocket rocket
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When I'm travelling solo:
Vango Force 10 Helium 1
Exped Synmant
2 season Deuter down bag or 3 season Alpkit down bag
Trangia Triangle meths stove with foil windshield from an old Whisperlite
MSR titanium kettle and titanium spoon
When travelling in a pair with wife or pal:
Wild Country Duolite Tourer (the one with the huge porch)
Trangia 27
I also bought the ordinary Duolite fly for the Wild Country tent so I have a lighter smaller version of this one for backpacking or travelling solo with the luxury of more room than the Force Ten offers. Unfortunately I think this is no longer available which is a shame as it was ideal for cycle touring for two.
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Not mine, but that of Koen, a Belgian I met in 2016 (3 times in Norway and later in Estonia). Since then he's spent winter in France and Spain, done a South American end-to-end, and is currently on an extended tour of Australia. His touring blog goes back to 2004, although he has on occasion taken time off to earn money and live in a house.
His detailed packing list for Australia can be found here (https://bike-a-way.com/2019/01/30/australia-the-gear-list/).
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It's an old thread but I've enjoyed reading it and thought I ought to contribute.
Tent: Vango Mirage Pro 200 (3.02kg)
Mat: Multimat Adventure 38 (835g)
Bag: Berghaus Intrepid 700 (0.74kg) Summer
Vango Ultralite Pro 300 (1.35kg) Winter
Stove: Trangia
It's not lightweight! The tent, mat and sleeping bags are pretty much good for anything I'll do in the UK at any time of the year (and, relatively speaking, they' weren't expensive).
I have a Duosal Trangia 25 and 27 plus a few other pieces (kettles, plate etc.) with both a spirit and a gas burner and a pot cosy. I take whatever takes my fancy. If I'm planning on doing "proper" cooking, I take the 25.
I've had a tarp for a while and recently I bought an ex army bivvy bag and I hope to make use of them when the weather gets better next year. Funds are short but I fancy having a go at making a fly-sheet style walking pole tent with an optional mozzie-net inner. At the moment it is only a fancy.
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Where are you based chopstick?
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Where are you based chopstick?
Midlands - Coventry
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Where are you based chopstick?
Midlands - Coventry
If you fancy some winter camping and more besides, and you can get down to mid-Essex, there's always THIS! (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=116558.50) :thumbsup:
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Thank you very much for the invite but I don't think I will be able to make it. I will keep an eye out for future events though :D
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Thank you very much for the invite but I don't think I will be able to make it. I will keep an eye out for future events though :D
No problem.