Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => Audax => Topic started by: Wowbagger on 10 May, 2008, 09:59:35 am
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This morning's post. There's loads of words by some guy called Steve Abraham about getting 405 AUK points. The man must be absolutely barking. :D
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My old neighbour Tracy sums up the Hills and Mills nicely (Far L 2nd row p16); quite a lot of recycling of photos in this issue.
I count 19 Y/ACF; I see why he's called Two Wheel Tuggo now ;) only 1 2007 Rider's PBP article too (don't recognise the author but from the account could not have been far behind)
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Ever since I started to read Arrivee, I've wondered to myself "what on earth is MarSAS?" The advert that appears for it in every edition makes no mention whatsoever to what the product actually is.
So today, I went to have a look at the MArSAS website. It no longer works. However a quick Google reveals that it is, in fact, handlebar padding.
So now I know.
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My old neighbour Tracy sums up the Hills and Mills nicely (Far L 2nd row p16); quite a lot of recycling of photos in this issue.
I count 19 Y/ACF; I see why he's called Two Wheel Tuggo now ;)
I have only had a quick look but have spotted ernst, valkyrie, hibernian exile, buspas and a name check in McNasty's article for eck.
(edit - and I've just spotted Glasgow Dave, alanmc and Mercury Kev as well)
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You need look no further than the cover
(Nuncio the Cover Boy)
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You need look no further than the cover
(Nuncio the Cover Boy)
Aha...I saw the cap but did not know who it was. Arrivee is great for putting faces to forum names.
So who else appears?
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So who else appears?
Front to back that I know of;
Nuncio, Rich P, Ian H, Peter M, Heffone, Phixie, Pushbikeman, PatC, myself, Virgil, Teethgrinder, Justine, Maladict, Tuggo, Iddu, Rust bucket, Jasmine, Andy Cox
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My old neighbour Tracy sums up the Hills and Mills nicely (Far L 2nd row p16); quite a lot of recycling of photos in this issue.
I count 19 Y/ACF; I see why he's called Two Wheel Tuggo now ;)
I have only had a quick look but have spotted ernst, valkyrie, hibernian exile, buspas and a name check in McNasty's article for eck.
(edit - and I've just spotted Glasgow Dave, alanmc and Mercury Kev as well)
would you mind identifying their pics ? I'd like to put faces to YACF names, and I feel that my knowledge of our Scottish contingent is not all it should be :)
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So who else appears?
Front to back that I know of;
Nuncio, Rich P, Ian H, Peter M, Heffone, Phixie, Pushbikeman, PatC, myself, Virgil, Teethgrinder, Justine, Maladict, Tuggo, Iddu, Rust bucket, Jasmine, Andy Cox
By a process of "various previous knowlledge and nothing in particular" I have worked out: Nuncio, RichP, IanH, PatC, you, Virgil, teethgrinder, justine, tuggo, iddu, jasmine and andy cox.
Heffone, Phixie, Pushbikeman must all be on the same page as you. Still to work out Maladict and Rust Bucket...
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would you mind identifying their pics ? I'd like to put faces to YACF names, and I feel that my knowledge of our Scottish contingent is not all it should be :)
ernst and hibernian exile are featured in "Never Say Never" ERC pic.
valkyrie and glasgow dave in twa wee counties right page middle left pic (middle of 4 pictured, GD middle left, valkyrie middle right)
buspas and mercury kev on Kingdom of Fife middle left pic. Buspas on right in yellow with MK behind him also in yellowish. alanmc in pic next to that one with piece of paper in his hand, wearing blue.
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Rust Bucket is riding the same under his public name of Garry Broad; Maladict; keep guessing.
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I know Maladict
Thanks for the Scottish IDs :)
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I shan't see mine until Monday - I assume it's on the mat in Devon. I wonder who's taken my photo, and worry it's yet another less than flattering one.
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I shan't see mine until Monday - I assume it's on the mat in Devon. I wonder who's taken my photo, and worry it's yet another less than flattering one.
Pictured at ACP awards.
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Strangely, Mrs Noodley collected the post this morning from the box at the end of the drive and Arrivee was not in the bundle she returned with. I spotted it in the box when I was cutting the grass - methinks Mrs Noodley left it on purpose ;)
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I shan't see mine until Monday - I assume it's on the mat in Devon. I wonder who's taken my photo, and worry it's yet another less than flattering one.
Pictured at ACP awards.
Surprising. I thought a certain Mr Buck had hijacked the publicity at that event.
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Surprising. I thought a certain Mr Buck had hijacked the publicity at that event.
Oh he's there as well. You and he both have two pics (although I think in one of them you only hapen to be sitting behind him and are pictured by default ;D ;))
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It's good to hear I've made the hallowed pages of Arrivee, thanks to John Myerscough for taking the foties.
Hopefully the ones of me melting on the the Moulin from the Pitlochry 150 won't be seen in public.
GD
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This morning's post. There's loads of words by some guy called Steve Abraham about getting 405 AUK points. The man must be absolutely barking. :D
A homage to the single gear and the single life ::-)
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A homage to the single gear and the single life ::-)
There's a very good photo of you on your trike on page 35. I laugh every time I see it.
It looks like Tim had a bit of a time of it putting this one together. He printed some of my Middle Road article twice, then missed the last bit.
He also appears to have missed a few words/sentences from my other article, and it looks like he's done the same with a few others too.
It's a shame that Tim was short of material for Arrivee. I think that a lot of this forum's RRs should be sent to Arrivee. I don't always have time to read them on this forum and they get buried and forgotten in time. This forum is a constant flow, but Arrivee is more stagnant and forgotten articles can be redicovered easily. Also, not everyon in AUK is on this forum. It's a shame that we keep them here, to ourselves and don't send them to Arrivee. It doesn't have to be a long article. I remember when Arrivee was in the A5 format and some articles were only one page.
So next time you do a RR, I hope that you consider sending a copy for Arrivee.
Otherwise, it will be flooded with my rubbish again. I have one written and may get another done for the next edition. You have been warned.
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Could we perhaps have the last few paragraphs of TGs report I wonder?
I've just spent the evening dipping in and out of it and now I don't know how it finishes!
(although I do... :-P)
It's nice to see things in print - none of my elderly laptops have batteries which work and so it is difficult to read yacf on the bog. Arrivee can be left in there reasonably safely and read multitasking-stylee.
And if I took baths the same would apply.
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... and worry it's yet another less than flattering one.
I've never seen a photo of you that wasn't flattering
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... and worry it's yet another less than flattering one.
I've never seen a photo of you that wasn't flattering
Thank-you. B*gger.
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You need look no further than the cover
(Nuncio the Cover Boy)
So Nuncio - are you John Spooners brother? Or have I got totally the wrong end of the stick. John mentioned on Sunday that his brother was on arrivée front cover.
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I think I'll take up Tim's call to arms and write a couple of articles for Arrivee. Would be a shame to see the magazine pale.
A thought: it might help out if some of the photo's appearing on some of these threads are mailed to the magazine editor?
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I've kept meaning to send in my PBH1 report, but have lacked the necessary tuits so to do,
1 - Paris-Brest-Hostipal
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I've kept meaning to send in my PBH1 report, but have lacked the necessary tuits so to do,
1 - Paris-Brest-Hostipal
Have one (http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger2/6874/4050/400/RoundTuit.jpg) on me.
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Additional: I see Mr M Series of this Parish has inexplicably turned into a Mike...
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Additional: I see Mr M Series of this Parish has inexplicably turned into a Mike...
The printers must have a problem with the name Martin - I have become Mark ???
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I found out yesterday, from John Spooner, that the fella riding a 'John Spooner' bike in Arrivee was in fact riding a bike made by someone else called John Spooner.
Please refrain from chanting "One John Spooner, there's only one John Spooner" as it's just not the case.
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It's a shame that Tim was short of material for Arrivee. I think that a lot of this forum's RRs should be sent to Arrivee. I don't always have time to read them on this forum and they get buried and forgotten in time. This forum is a constant flow, but Arrivee is more stagnant and forgotten articles can be redicovered easily. Also, not everyon in AUK is on this forum. It's a shame that we keep them here, to ourselves and don't send them to Arrivee. It doesn't have to be a long article. I remember when Arrivee was in the A5 format and some articles were only one page.
So next time you do a RR, I hope that you consider sending a copy for Arrivee.
Otherwise, it will be flooded with my rubbish again. I have one written and may get another done for the next edition. You have been warned.
There are a few of my RRs that I could have thrown-in over the last year or so, but I've tended not to, as it's hard to know what others find interesting and less so. I did put my PBP RR in, as that was one I was particularly happy with. A couple of thoughts:
How about expanding the functionality of the Ride Reports sub-board here, so that readers can give a star-rating to the reports they read. The good stuff could then be more readily identified.
How about drawing the attention of the various Arrivee eds to this place, as I'm sure there is plenty here that the original authors would be only to pleased to share if requested.
AC
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I presume Sheila Simpson knows about this place as her partner posts here occasionally.
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I found out yesterday, from John Spooner, that the fella riding a 'John Spooner' bike in Arrivee was in fact riding a bike made by someone else called John Spooner.
Please refrain from chanting "One John Spooner, there's only one John Spooner" as it's just not the case.
This probably belongs in the Useless Facts thread, but:
John Spooner built 168 John Spooner frames between 1968 and 1993. One of them (http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3141/2410906296_9e83158ce8.jpg) is in my garage.
There was also a time-triallist John Spooner from Stoke or thereabouts who used to get his name in Cycling Weekly. That definitely wasn't me. But the one in the picture in Cycling Weekly in January 1990 (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2077/2467083507_0773c1a3fc_b.jpg) (the week after Tuggo's obituary) is me.
I make that 171 John Spooners.
[Enough John Spooners - ed]
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How many Spohn Jooners are there?
And are any of them Reverends?
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It's good to hear I've made the hallowed pages of Arrivee, thanks to John Myerscough for taking the foties.
He's done a good job of nearly showing me in 2 foties - just my waterbottle in one and each shoulder and the tip of my head in another, hidden behind some other gadgie! Still, an appearance in the centenary edition is an honourable experience indeed.
And with regard to the lack of articles on randonneering, I feel almost moved to write one that lays out the trials and anguishes associated with not randonneering due (in part) to a complete inability to get three small children to agree to be strapped to a bicycle frame for 12 hrs at a time.
Dr Hook said it well (paraphrase): at the age of 47, he realised he'd never, ride to Paris with the warm wind in his hair...
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You need look no further than the cover
(Nuncio the Cover Boy)
So Nuncio - are you John Spooners brother? Or have I got totally the wrong end of the stick. John mentioned on Sunday that his brother was on arrivée front cover.
Yes, that's me on both counts.
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By the look of the expression on his face, amongst the many other gadgets Maladict has attached to his steed is a potty-saddle.
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Gah. I hope it's there when I get home tonight. Otherwise I might have to do some of my outstanding OU assignments.
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I was very proud when I saw that I had made it to the hallowed pages of arrive; however, my wife soon brought me back to earth by berating me for wearing a cycling cap in public (she really doesn't like cycling clothing). ah bless.
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There are a few of my RRs that I could have thrown-in over the last year or so, but I've tended not to, as it's hard to know what others find interesting and less so. I did put my PBP RR in, as that was one I was particularly happy with. A couple of thoughts:
How about expanding the functionality of the Ride Reports sub-board here, so that readers can give a star-rating to the reports they read. The good stuff could then be more readily identified.
How about drawing the attention of the various Arrivee eds to this place, as I'm sure there is plenty here that the original authors would be only to pleased to share if requested.
AC
I'm never always sure when I've written a good article. I still get rare comments about my American tour which I wrote about nearly ten years ago. I never thought much of it at the time and just thought that it would be a handy filler article.
I know when I have something worth writing about. It doesn't always come from a good ride. I have lots of good rides, but they aren't all worth writing about. They are always better when there is a bit of a story involved.
Some articles, I get fed up with and don't read them. Others, I really enjoy. You can't please everyone. Some people really enjoy the articles which I don't.
Arrivee isn't at a stage when it is able to turn articles away. It is starting to get desperate for articles.
Sending Tim some photos is a very good idea too. Especially if you have the names of the people in the photos. That photo of me in the latest Arrivee is on it's second or third showing now. So he must be desperate for photos if he's willing to show my ugly mug in the mag.
Maybe we could have a photo of one of the John Spooners?
How about a John Spooner identity parade, where we have photos of various John Spooners and we have to pick our much loved dweller of bus shelters.
There used to be more short and humourous articles in Arrivee too. (Which were often written by a certain Lynn Goring, who's true identity escapes me. It could well have been one of the John Spooners. Who knows?)
If you enjoy it, then the chances are, that so will someone else.
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I have one written and may get another done for the next edition.
Excellent news, and thanks TG, again, for your writings. On here as well as in Arrivee.
Always interesting, full of good advice and humour, and very often inspirational. (Sometimes a bit like reading about Shackleton, before going out for a few hours on a "cold" day.)
I'm sure you are helping lots of people, with a very wide range of abilities, to get out there, and to increase their enjoyment. Very much appreciated!
Since typing that I've read your 9.43 post. Yes, I reckon we could usefully get less hesitant about putting articles in. Arrivee would get even better, and it's already first-class.
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Grr: "100th anniversary issue"
ITYM "100th issue. 25th anniversary."
Otherwise I look forward to reading it. I may even consider submitting something if only I could write anything even remotely interesting. :)
The other way I'd like to repay AUK this year is to offer my services to help out with an Audax, such as sitting in a cafe control (or even the roadside) for 5 hours with a stamp and a grimace smile.
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I may even consider submitting something if only I could write anything even remotely interesting. :)
how about your marvellous PBP tracking program ?; you'd probably get the soon-to-be-vacant Systems Manager post on the strength of it.
The other way I'd like to repay AUK this year is to offer my services to help out with an Audax, such as sitting in a cafe control (or even the roadside) for 5 hours with a stamp and a grimace smile.
YHPM ;)
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how about your marvellous PBP tracking program ?; you'd probably get the soon-to-be-vacant Systems Manager post on the strength of it.
If someone is up to the task of giving the website an overhaul and bringing in the desired functionality, and would like to do it, I imagine the committee would jump at the offer.
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FWIW I don't think there's anything wrong at all with the current website :thumbsup: it's one of the most user friendly ones I visit.
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If I could commit to giving it the time it deserves I'd put my application in.
But my family, social life, job, degree, other commitments and finally my cycling, give me precious "free" time.
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FWIW I don't think there's anything wrong at all with the current website :thumbsup: it's one of the most user friendly ones I visit.
Agreed. FF has done a fantastic job.
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I'm never always sure when I've written a good article.
When I used to write more than I do now, I found it useful to write a first draft, then leave it for a couple of months. Then I'd look at it again, and I would be looking at it through fresh eyes, as if someone else had written it, and all sorts of inconsistencies, mixed metaphors and awkward phrasing which I hadn't noticed before would become glaringly obvious. Whole paragraphs would be discarded, and new ones added. Ideas for new sections would suggest themselves The most extreme case took four years between the germ of the idea being planted and its appearance as a full-blown piece in Arrivée. You may remember it, Mr Tg. I've just reread one of the articles from about 10 years ago, (http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dr7p4tj_25gsk6p7g8), and there are plenty of things I would change - too many in-jokes for one thing, so I still don't know if I'm happy with it.
One thing has occurred to me. There was a thread elswhere with some brilliant Audax poetry. There was enough there to keep Arrivée's poetry corner going for years Just a thought.
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How about drawing the attention of the various Arrivee eds to this place, as I'm sure there is plenty here that the original authors would be only to pleased to share if requested.
I presume Sheila Simpson knows about this place as her partner posts here occasionally.
Yebbut ... its in the nature of being an 'editor' that you need a surfeit of material to start with. The Eds will not 'pull' material from here or anywhere else (they aren't researchers), they need to have it 'pushed', if only so that they know they have permission to reprint it. There were some great ride reports and photos here (or very nearby) post-PBP, and other events - but the authors have to go that extra inch to give them to Arrivee, and we'd all enjoy the end result.
[edit] related - I think its particularly sad, if inevitable, that the Letters page has dwindled.
When I used to write more than I do now, I found it useful to write a first draft, then leave it for a couple of months. Then I'd look at it again
I did that for an article for the Arrivee that's just come out - and decided to withdraw it entirely! So at least two hastily-assembled pages of photos are my fault ...
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Could we perhaps have the last few paragraphs of TGs report I wonder?
Wotesaid; I was really getting into that (despite knowing how it ended so probably a bit like Apollo 13) when I turned the page I got Ferryside Fish Foray or somesuch :(
How about drawing the attention of the various Arrivee eds to this place
Tim's an avid reader and he knows we are all over here now.
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Grr: "100th anniversary issue"
ITYM "100th issue. 25th anniversary."
That made me Grrr too. Glad I'm not alone.
The pedant in me wonders if they somehow got a correspondent's name wrong and was not happy with the use of the word 'amount'.
Otherwise I look forward to reading it. I may even consider submitting something if only I could write anything even remotely interesting. :)
The other way I'd like to repay AUK this year is to offer my services to help out with an Audax, such as sitting in a cafe control (or even the roadside) for 5 hours with a stamp and a grimace smile.
I do what I can but I really can't do much. :( :(
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A homage to the single gear and the single life ::-)
There's a very good photo of you on your trike on page 35. I laugh every time I see it.
It looks like Tim had a bit of a time of it putting this one together. He printed some of my Middle Road article twice, then missed the last bit.
He also appears to have missed a few words/sentences from my other article, and it looks like he's done the same with a few others too.
It's a shame that Tim was short of material for Arrivee. I think that a lot of this forum's RRs should be sent to Arrivee. I don't always have time to read them on this forum and they get buried and forgotten in time. This forum is a constant flow, but Arrivee is more stagnant and forgotten articles can be redicovered easily. Also, not everyon in AUK is on this forum. It's a shame that we keep them here, to ourselves and don't send them to Arrivee. It doesn't have to be a long article. I remember when Arrivee was in the A5 format and some articles were only one page.
So next time you do a RR, I hope that you consider sending a copy for Arrivee.
Otherwise, it will be flooded with my rubbish again. I have one written and may get another done for the next edition. You have been warned.
Funny you should say that Steve, I have just posted a thread requesting that we all do just that ;D
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I like the idea of the article about "not randonneuring" upthread :)
If When I finish the BCM next weekend I may write that up...
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There's a very good photo of you on your trike on page 35. I laugh every time I see it.
It looks just like he did on the Rural South last year, just coming out of Burghclere :)
But only for a moment.
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FWIW I don't think there's anything wrong at all with the current website :thumbsup: it's one of the most user friendly ones I visit.
I am happy to 2nd that (e)motion.
It's a bit unfunky, not very bling, but it's very functional. (And unlike more glamorous sites, I suspect it would work with smaller screens etc).
I fear too much glitzing it up may just make things worse.
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I've just reread one of the articles from about 10 years ago, (http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dr7p4tj_25gsk6p7g8),
What a very good read! Brim-full of timeless topicality! Thanks John.
Ooh, just realised about "insert quote" thing...
I still don't know if I'm happy with it.
Very glad you didn't wait until you were certain!
There was a thread elswhere with some brilliant Audax poetry. There was enough there to keep Arrivée's poetry corner going for years Just a thought.
I think it's still there. It was going better and better... well worth resurrecting!
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[When I used to write more than I do now, I found it useful to write a first draft, then leave it for a couple of months. Then I'd look at it again,
One thing has occurred to me. There was a thread elswhere with some brilliant Audax poetry. There was enough there to keep Arrivée's poetry corner going for years Just a thought.
I write my articles, then leave them before going over them again and re-writing them. The last one I wrote about last season, I wrote the first few pages about 3 times. I never really got goin on that article and the whole thing was a struggle for the first few months. Although my brain was pretty addled after all the cycling i did.
I've re-read some of my old articles too and would write them differently now. I still think I have some way to go as far as my writing goes. But' I enjoy writing the articles and people seem to enjoy reading them, so i just keep going.
I never saw the poetry either and I'm on the forum, so what chance does anyone who is not on the forum have? It's a shame that it is missed.
Maybe we could have a direct link to Arrivee on this forum, so that if someone does a RR, they can also send it direct to Arrivee if they wish.
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Don't you dare get into poetry Toothy, I would be forever in sleep deficit trying to read it... ;)
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Could we perhaps have the last few paragraphs of TGs report I wonder?
Any chance of a reprint on these pages, then? :)
Have just been left in suspense wondering if the intrepid bunch make it safely back to MK...
...actually I know that they did, but like in all good films the fact you know how it ends doesn't stop the enjoyment.
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I want to read the end, as well! And I was there ;D
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I'll send it to Tim with my next article. I'm not even sure that Tim knows about the error yet.
But, I do take bribes for sneak previews.
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So, I finally got around to reading the latest issue. Nothing like an injury to help one with the old reading backlog.
I was enjoying Sonya Crawford's PBP article, when the following phrases really caught my attention (actually - I almost choked on my Horlicks):
"The four of us sat in front of a glorious log fire and enjoyed hot drinks and good crack."
followed a little later by
"The Crathe Hotel was a haven, another log fire where we were able to dry a lot of our clothes, the best omelettes I have ever tasted, and more good crack."
Now - is this code for some North of the Border ritual, or am I missing out on something when audaxing, only nobody has ever offered me crack - good or bad?
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So, I finally got around to reading the latest issue. Nothing like an injury to help one with the old reading backlog.
I was enjoying Sonya Crawford's PBP article, when the following phrases really caught my attention (actually - I almost choked on my Horlicks):
"The four of us sat in front of a glorious log fire and enjoyed hot drinks and good crack."
followed a little later by
"The Crathe Hotel was a haven, another log fire where we were able to dry a lot of our clothes, the best omelettes I have ever tasted, and more good crack."
Now - is this code for some North of the Border ritual, or am I missing out on something when audaxing, only nobody has ever offered me crack - good or bad?
Crack (http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/HummersOriginal/50Finish2.jpg)?
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We have craic but not crack.
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We have craic but not crack.
A Northern Irish friend of mine insists that 'crack' is perfectly acceptable in English.
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We have craic but not crack.
A Northern Irish friend of mine insists that 'crack' is perfectly acceptable in English.
And I thought they were just snorting coke....
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It is indeed perfectly acceptable, I have used it, although it was many moons ago.
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It is indeed perfectly acceptable, I have used it, although it was many moons ago.
But what does it mean?
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But what does it mean?
Conversation of the engaging kind.
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same as craic but badly spelled and more confusing.
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It is indeed perfectly acceptable, I have used it, although it was many moons ago.
Haha! I geddit!
Crack!
Moons!
Very good Annie!
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It is indeed perfectly acceptable, I have used it, although it was many moons ago.
Haha! I geddit!
Crack!
Moons!
Very good Annie!
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