Author Topic: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life  (Read 7009 times)

jane

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Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« on: 26 May, 2008, 12:08:31 pm »
I hit 50 this year.  I've cycled all my life,  it's how I get around and how I spend my holidays.   I used to cycle long distances,in a day for several weeks at a time  mainly cycle camping, at my own pace and was probably quite fit and fast in the past.  Then last year I was diagnosed with breast cancer and spent the year going through the whole surgery, chemo and radiotherapy stuff.  This year all looks positive on the health front so far and I'm riding again maybe 100 miles weekly with commuting and one day ride of 50 miles or so but I am getting frustrated with my level of fitness and I find myself struggling for motivation to ride sometimes.  This was never a problem before.  I have chatted to people about audaxing and think it might be a good way of motivating me and building up my stamina again.  I chatted to my doctor about it- he seemed to think it's ok but he did express some concern about the longer distances (not that I'd consider  more than 200 for quite a while) which got me worrying again (something else I never really did before!) I just wondered if there's anyone else out there who's been through similar health stuff, or knows anyone who has and is now audaxing fine. 
            Jane

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Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #1 on: 26 May, 2008, 12:25:22 pm »
Crikey - that puts me to shame at 35!

There are plenty of people audaxing who are much older than you, but I don't know about the medical history side of things. Is your doctor worried about the stress of long distance stuff? I would have thought (and I'm medically clueless) that there is a difference between a 160k ride and longer stuff in which you end up exhausted and miss out on sleep.

I guess that if you are unsure it may be better to seek an opinion from a doctor who specialises in endurance sports medicine. My brother (a nurse and sporty type) tells me that this can make a difference. I've no ideas on where to find one of those though.

Good luck.

Chris S

Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #2 on: 26 May, 2008, 12:36:35 pm »
Caveats: I am not a doctor, haven't had the health issues, and am a chap. In fact the only qualification I have for any kind of opinion is that I ride some audax.

A history of cancer and chemo didn't seem to do Lance Armstrong's cycling much harm.

My BiL had radio therapy for cancer, and that seems to have made him more "fragile" - more aches and pains - but he still cycles.

I'd have though you'll have a highly tuned sense of self-awareness about your health now, and will be able to tell if something is doing you harm or not.

Try some 100's, see how you get on, and assuming all is well, start to work up the distances. Eat well, with lots of anti-oxidants (exercise is a form of oxidative stress - endurance exercises even more so). Relax in between long rides.

What is it about your fitness that makes you frustrated? If you can ride 50 miles in one go, and average 100 miles a week, there's a good base level of fitness by the sound of it.
Motivation is a whole other thing, but if you enjoy it, you'll want to do it more - and that will drive your motivation, at least to a point.

Edit: BTW - "50" is not "late in life". I'm 48 and only started randonneering a couple of years ago. Over 40's have better endurance and stamina than those whipper-snapper youngsters who blow themselves up in the first 50km  :thumbsup:.

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Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #3 on: 26 May, 2008, 12:44:41 pm »
Just go for it :thumbsup:

There is a lady on the Bacchetta forum who had half a lung taken out as well as most of her trapezius muscle on one side due to Cancer, they also told her she had months to live.

That was 15 years ago yesterday, she is still going and has done lots of long rides including the Sebring 24hr TT where she covered 300 miles.

Hope to see you on one sometime.
Rich.

LEE

Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #4 on: 26 May, 2008, 01:28:20 pm »
It sounds like you are not far from convincing yourself to do your first 100km event.

Assuming it is not a hilly AAA event then 62 miles would be a perfect next-step from your current comfort zone of 50 miles I suggest.

I'd stick with 100's for a while and see how it goes.  100km rides mean you are never that far from home should something break or you get too physically tired to continue.  They also don't drain you like the longer rides.

WARNING - My next statement is entirely personal.

200km and above can leave you feeling pretty drained and, especially when you first start doing 200km rides, exposed to getting colds and so on.  I'd be careful about going beyond 100km if your body is still in any form of recovery and you are entirely comfortable on 100km rides.

You are correct that Audax is a good way to get motivated and to increase stamina.  It's usually much easier to do the distance when the first few hours are spend chatting away or riding in a (loose) group.

Go for it.

PS.  Trust me, I'm a qualified Cicso Networking Engineer

PS.  I started Audaxing at 44 and my previous cycling 'comfort zone' was very similar to yours.  A bit of local cycling, the occasional (yearly 50 mile Charridy Ride and so on).

50 years of age is probably nearer to the typical age of an audaxer than you may think (in fact it's below than the average age of those who completed the Denmead 100 this year = 51)

jane

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Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #5 on: 26 May, 2008, 01:49:49 pm »
Thanks for all those comments- it does help- I never seemed to have confidence and motivation problems pre-cancer.  And yes, Chris, you would think I'd have a fine tuned sense of awareness about my health but I think I may actually have become a bit of a hypochondriac!
   But I'm going to find the next 100k nearish me and go for it.
       Thanks again
        Jane

Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #6 on: 26 May, 2008, 01:58:14 pm »
Thanks for all those comments- it does help- I never seemed to have confidence and motivation problems pre-cancer.  And yes, Chris, you would think I'd have a fine tuned sense of awareness about my health but I think I may actually have become a bit of a hypochondriac!
   But I'm going to find the next 100k nearish me and go for it.
       Thanks again
        Jane

That's the spirit. 50 is not old for an Audaxer. The only way to find out if it's for you is to try it, but from the sound of you you will love it.

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Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #7 on: 26 May, 2008, 03:04:43 pm »
Obviously I'm no audaxer and so know nothing...but the Central London CTC have sent me a little booklet of rides planned for the coming months, including the odd official audax. Think these are also available on their website. It says (re audax):

'Those in our list are the shorter easier ones enjoyable for medium paced riders and offer train access from central London' One in particular is described as 'an ideal first audax...not too many hills and a simple routesheet'

Maybe a good way to test the water?

Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #8 on: 26 May, 2008, 03:40:25 pm »
I don't have anything really to add to what has already been said other than encouragement. Go for it. You'll not be the oldest person and on some rides round here not the oldest lady either. Good luck, come back and tell us how you get on. You'll be an inspiration to us all.

annie

Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #9 on: 26 May, 2008, 03:45:09 pm »
I would see how you go with a few 100s first, there isn't a huge rush to move onto longer distances.  I don't know when your treatment finished but I assume your doc expressed concern over the longer distances due to your immune system.

Send off your entry, go along and enjoy yourself and then have a look at the calendar for more local events.  You will meet new people and explore new areas, what have you got to lose?

Good luck

Annie

Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #10 on: 27 May, 2008, 04:06:17 pm »
Hi Jane, there's been great advice posted.  I will only add that I started audaxing last year at age 58, although, not a cancer survivor I'd not ridden a bike for years and was very over-weight and unfit.  I did short distances at first mostly 100-kms and then as I felt fitter did a 160 and then a 200.  Did my first 300 last month and can do 200s without too much pain these days.  I've lost two stone probably more and as fit as I've ever been.

There was a bloke I met in the car park before the Cotswold Corker (a really hilly 100) that was in his 80s.  I couldn't believe it when he told me as he looked maybe late 60s.  I'd certainly encourage you to go for it but watch out - it can be addictive.  All the best.

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Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #11 on: 27 May, 2008, 04:09:15 pm »
Jane, just go for it  :)

The 100k "populaires" are a great place to start and you'll get a little more relaxed time limits on them as well.  Post and let us know which ones you fancy doing and maybe you'll meet a few of us at the start.

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Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #12 on: 27 May, 2008, 04:16:51 pm »
Mrs Mike had similar treatment for a different kind of cancer a [long] while back - its an absolute bastard.

She's now well fit (;)) and is quite happy with all day rides on horse or bike and has done a couple of half marathons.  Take it slowly on the first one and see how you get on!

(& I think hypochondria is entirely normal after something like that - we still worry every time she gets a cold)

Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #13 on: 27 May, 2008, 06:00:14 pm »
If you go on any of the midweek rides you may well find yourself one of the youngest (except for layabouts like me, of course...)

Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #14 on: 27 May, 2008, 06:08:05 pm »
Jane,
My advice would be to do whatever makes you happy.  Life is too short to sit around and watch it slip through your fingers.  You are not knew to cycling so you are not too late for audaxing.  You have obviously done long distance rides but just not the organisers route  ;D
Whatever you decide I hope you are happy.
Good luck.

bobajobrob

Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #15 on: 27 May, 2008, 06:17:39 pm »
That 150 miles a week is a pretty good base for building fitness. I would expect you'd easily be capable of 100k events if you keep that kind of distance up. Go for it and enjoy it!


Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #16 on: 27 May, 2008, 06:19:40 pm »
One other thing, have you thought about joining our yACF Bikejournal crew?

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Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #17 on: 27 May, 2008, 08:53:48 pm »
I think the average age for PBP in 2007 was 49.6.

There you are, you're just coming of age!

H

Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #18 on: 27 May, 2008, 08:55:33 pm »
I think the average age for PBP in 2007 was 49.6.

There you are, you're just coming of age!

H

I must be maturing just nicely. It smells like it at the end of a long ride.

jane

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Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #19 on: 02 June, 2008, 02:41:05 pm »
Thanks everyone for all your comments- I'm going to take a look at the Audax calendar and see when the next few localish 100 k's  to me  are and pick one-
    Thanks again
          Jane

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Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #20 on: 02 June, 2008, 05:12:05 pm »
I started audaxing after my 51st birthday. Initially I really struggled to get in over 100k but I am now getting in with more time to spare.

A pal of mine had his cancerous prostate removed about 18 months ago and a couple of months later broke his leg while out walking. He has always been a completely confident type, but he mentioned how the two health problems had really knocked his confidence. I think that any event which reminds us of our mortality can be a bit of a confidence-reducer.
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Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #21 on: 02 June, 2008, 08:18:38 pm »
Thanks everyone for all your comments- I'm going to take a look at the Audax calendar and see when the next few localish 100 k's  to me  are and pick one-
    Thanks again
          Jane

What area of the country are you in?  (I mean flat Fens?  muderous Devon/Cornwall?  lumpy Hants/Wilts? and so on)

Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #22 on: 02 June, 2008, 10:30:57 pm »
jane
I was 51 when I started in 1998 and did PBP in1999 and 2003.A bit more relevant (though different)to your situation I had my prostate removed in April last year and got back on my bike in June. In April this year I did LE-JoG in 6&1/2 days to raise money for the Prostate cancer charity.
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jane

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Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #23 on: 03 June, 2008, 06:53:13 am »


What area of the country are you in?  (I mean flat Fens?  muderous Devon/Cornwall?  lumpy Hants/Wilts? and so on)

I'm a Londoner.  So have reasonably easy access to a range of terrain- I can do hills but very very slowly. I have a Roberts Roughstuff which I finally purchased just prior to getting ill as I had planned a London to Istanbul trip for that summer, (still have it in mind for when my confidence returns) and it has some very low gears. I've just returned from the Peak District cyclecamping which was great and I didn't walk up any hills.  But could probably have walked up faster than I rode some of them.   I have to admit that I unloaded all the gear at a campsite before I did a circuit including Winnats Pass.

LEE

Re: Thinking of getting into Audaxing a bit late in life
« Reply #24 on: 03 June, 2008, 10:22:20 am »
I used to live on the edge of the Peak District and if you can haul camping gear around there then you should have no problems at all on most Audaxes.

Despite having low gears, getting a bike up Winnats Pass is an achievement (even going down it can be daunting).

Some of the Hampshire rides may be convenient for you if you are West London, Denmead, Kingsworthy, Faccombe as they are only an hour away by car and close(ish) to a railway station on Waterloo line.

All my audaxing is done on a 26" wheel 'Camping Tourer' not unlike a Roughstuff in concept so the bike is no issue.

See you in Denmead one day maybe.