Yet Another Cycling Forum
Off Topic => The Pub => Food & Drink => Topic started by: LEE on 05 January, 2018, 11:18:49 pm
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A Glass of Burgundy in Burgundy...
Some Dijon Mustard in Dijon..
We plan to travel in our motorhome for an extended period, mainly in Britain and (especially) France but more Western European countries and Scandinavia are in plan.
As something to help plan our itinerary we thought it may be nice to use the origins of famous foodstuffs and "drinkstuffs" as a lure to a region or town.
We'd really appreciate any help in compiling a checklist/to-do-list.
Scottish Whiskey and French vineyards could keep us busy for ever so we're looking for more specific examples than Oban Whiskey in Oban.
Colemans mustard in Norwich could be a target (before they close it down).
Suggestions please .......(It doesn't need to have the same name as the town but it should have a well known link between origin and product.)
I'm more than happy to revisit the town of Cognac and the Calvados region.
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Bakewell tarts, East Yorkshire chip spice, Newcastle brown ale, Craster kippers and Cullen skink would get you a fair ways north in the UK.
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How about this site for suggestions?
http://ec.europa.eu/agriculture/quality/door/list.html?recordStart=0&recordEnd=10&filter.status=REGISTERED&sort.milestone=desc&recordPerPage=100
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Hawes in Wensleydale.
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Melton Mowbray pork pies!
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Don't go to Kiev (sic) for chicken - you'll be disappointed.
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Cheese! From Cheddar to Edam via Pont-l'Évêque. Lots of others too of course, especially in France.
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You could go to Fougères and eat a fern, but I wouldn't recommend it.
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Spaghetti Bolognese
Parma ham
Marmite (Burton on Trent)
Lancashire hot pot
Cumberland sausages
Cornish pasties
Clonakilty black pudding
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Tottenham Cake, as bad as the place it's named after
Scouse
Cromer Crab
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If they have a McDonald's here you almost certainly will eat some..
https://goo.gl/maps/pkzF6Vn1LLr
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Arbroath smokies (though maybe not straight after the Craster kippers)
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Pontefract cakes
Dover sole
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Saucisse de Toulouse. Nom nom and, moreover, nom.
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Beef bourguignon
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Asti spew-my-auntie.
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Bakewell tarts, East Yorkshire chip spice, Newcastle brown ale, Craster kippers and Cullen skink would get you a fair ways north in the UK.
Ecclefechan tarts.
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Koelsch beer in Cologne. Doughnuts in Berlin.
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Pontefract cakes
Aren't as good as they sound. And are quite hard to find.
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Gouda is nice. I more ways than one ;)
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Cheese! From Cheddar to Edam via Pont-l'Évêque. Lots of others too of course, especially in France.
But don't go to Stilton for Stilton. It's actually illegal to make Stilton in Stilton, it can only be made in Derbyshire, Leicestershire and Nottinghamshire.
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Nice biscuits in Nice!
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Eccles cakes from the tourist honey pot of Greater Manchester?
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Pontefract cakes
Aren't as good as they sound. And are quite hard to find.
They’re easy enough to find in Pontefract - just go to the Haribo (formerly Dunhills) factory shop.
A childhood visit to my gran was never complete without calling in there for liquorice-based goodies.
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You could round off the tour with getting Delhi Belly in Delhi, or Stokholm Syndrome... etc
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Pontefract cakes
Aren't as good as they sound. And are quite hard to find.
They’re easy enough to find in Pontefract - just go to the Haribo (formerly Dunhills) factory shop.
A childhood visit to my gran was never complete without calling in there for liquorice-based goodies.
I wish we'd known that place existed when we rode to the National 400 via Pontefract in 2016. Ended up buying some from Tesco. ;D
EDIT - Turns out we bought them from the Tesco next door to the feckin Haribo shop. We even rode down Liquorice Way! ;D
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On a more serious note, consider Jeréz - there are a million different sherries to try, and none of them are like Harvey's Bristol Cream.
Scottish Whiskey and French vineyards could keep us busy for ever so we're looking for more specific examples than Oban Whiskey in Oban.
Be careful. It's Scotch Whisky. Whiskey comes from Ireland or the US. Spelling it with an E could get you a Glasgow Kiss in Glasgow.
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On a more serious note, consider Jeréz - there are a million different sherries to try, and none of them are like Harvey's Bristol Cream.
Scottish Whiskey and French vineyards could keep us busy for ever so we're looking for more specific examples than Oban Whiskey in Oban.
Be careful. It's Scotch Whisky. Whiskey comes from Ireland or the US. Spelling it with an E could get you a Glasgow Kiss in Glasgow.
And on that note - Buckfast in Devon.
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Edinburgh Rock, Forfar Bridies, Arbroath Smokies...
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Cheese! From Cheddar to Edam via Pont-l'Évêque. Lots of others too of course, especially in France.
But don't go to Stilton for Stilton. It's actually illegal to make Stilton in Stilton, it can only be made in Derbyshire, Leicestershire and Nottinghamshire.
I'm sure I heard the same thing about Melton Mowbray.
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Hawes in Wensleydale.
I once heard someone shout that across a Yorkshire Pub but I think it was just a Hen Party.
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I have to admit that the French Cheese/Booze towns are more appealing than the Eccles option, as touring in the Motorhome goes.
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Cullen skink.
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I'm not sure of the provenance of Brussels' sprouts.
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If they have a McDonald's here you almost certainly will eat some..
https://goo.gl/maps/pkzF6Vn1LLr
You could go to Hamburg for a Hamburger...
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Wiener schnitzel
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Bournville chocolate.
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Bournville chocolate.
It always amused me that the Cadbury's dark chocolate, Bournville, is not actually made in the Bournville factory. It's made in France.
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Cheese! From Cheddar to Edam via Pont-l'Évêque. Lots of others too of course, especially in France.
But don't go to Stilton for Stilton. It's actually illegal to make Stilton in Stilton, it can only be made in Derbyshire, Leicestershire and Nottinghamshire.
I'm sure I heard the same thing about Melton Mowbray.
Sort of. Melton Mowbray Pork Pies have a PGI which means they can only come from Melton. Stilton (the cheese) has a PDO which doesn't include Cambridgeshire, which is where Stilton (the village) is. It can be made in Melton Mowbray.
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Ravioles du Royans
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I'm sure I heard on a R4 program years ago that Melton Mowbray pies could only come from a specific area around Melton Mowbray, but Melton Mowbray itself wasn't actually in that area. ???
I may have mis-heard.
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Yeah, sorry, the area is a region around Melton. It does include Melton, but you're right, most Melton Mowbray Pork Pies are made outside the town itself but within the designated area.
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Wikipedia doesn't seem to support my theory.
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English breakfast and Welsh cakes provide broad emergency targets to stay on topic with if more specific plans go south one day.
French bread too.
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You could visit the Sandwich Islands for a sandwich. ;D
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Hamburgers in Hamburg, Frankfurters in Frankfurt, pilsner in Plzen
London Gin in London Plymouth Gin in Plymouth
Sherry in Jerez, Port in Oporto, Madeira in Madeira
You could visit the Sandwich Islands for a sandwich. ;D
Kent would be cheaper to get to, though apparently both are named after the Earl of, rather than the town directly.
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You could perhaps extend it to include places that are also activities.
You cold have a piss on Piss Pot Island (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Piss+Pot+Island/@39.3349449,-78.7875937,15.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x89b57bbd51ce7993:0xcffb036d44e82f7!8m2!3d39.334936!4d-78.781114)
You could take a shit in Shit (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Shit,+Iran/@36.4827243,53.5518261,14.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x3f84d28731d61937:0x51fde1026936e038!8m2!3d36.476945!4d53.5595055)
Or have a wank in Wank (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Wank/@47.6152284,10.5191793,15.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x479d07a20dc4203b:0x1b8c3deb7c210341!8m2!3d47.5072222!4d11.1436111Wank)
And of course, the old favourite, do some fucking in Fucking (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/5121+Fucking,+Austria/@48.0685375,12.8634444,15.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4775d4854dbcba19:0x802456ee60b72a17!8m2!3d48.0673299!4d12.8633177)
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You could perhaps extend it to include places that are also activities.
You cold have a piss on Piss Pot Island (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Piss+Pot+Island/@39.3349449,-78.7875937,15.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x89b57bbd51ce7993:0xcffb036d44e82f7!8m2!3d39.334936!4d-78.781114)
You could take a shit in Shit (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Shit,+Iran/@36.4827243,53.5518261,14.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x3f84d28731d61937:0x51fde1026936e038!8m2!3d36.476945!4d53.5595055)
Or have a wank in Wank (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Wank/@47.6152284,10.5191793,15.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x479d07a20dc4203b:0x1b8c3deb7c210341!8m2!3d47.5072222!4d11.1436111Wank)
And of course, the old favourite, do some fucking in Fucking (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/5121+Fucking,+Austria/@48.0685375,12.8634444,15.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4775d4854dbcba19:0x802456ee60b72a17!8m2!3d48.0673299!4d12.8633177)
Dorset has a good selection of scatological places, though Sitterton lost its 'h' to placate local sensitivities and the River Piddle is otherwise known as the Tent. Suggest bobb has a leak at the Piddle Inn in Piddletrenthide.
Back on topic, there's London Gin and London Cheesecake...
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Cumberland Sausage, or Jennings Cumberland Ale (or anything from Cumberland Legendary Ales) for somewhere out here.
Also for a bit of geographic confusion, we also have Lake District Cheddar
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Head for Belgium and find some Trappist monasteries that brew their own beer.
Orval is in a beautiful setting.
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If they have a McDonald's here you almost certainly will eat some..
https://goo.gl/maps/pkzF6Vn1LLr
When I lived in northern Germany, their locals ads were Hamburger eats hamburger..
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Edam, Netherlands
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Westmalle
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Head for Belgium and find some Trappist monasteries that brew their own beer.
Orval is in a beautiful setting.
And is a very fine beer :P
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English breakfast and Welsh cakes provide broad emergency targets to stay on topic with if more specific plans go south one day.
French bread too.
Don't forget the fries!
(Yes, I know, the British say 'chips', but they're wrong.)
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Bolognaise.
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English breakfast and Welsh cakes provide broad emergency targets to stay on topic with if more specific plans go south one day.
French bread too.
Don't forget the fries!
(Yes, I know, the British say 'chips', but they're wrong.)
Like several things the UK calls "French", they're Belgian.
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English breakfast and Welsh cakes provide broad emergency targets to stay on topic with if more specific plans go south one day.
French bread too.
Don't forget the fries!
(Yes, I know, the British say 'chips', but they're wrong.)
Like several things the UK calls "French", they're Belgian.
Danish pastries, but if you you try to find in Denmark, they're called Viennese there
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Here too.
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English breakfast and Welsh cakes provide broad emergency targets to stay on topic with if more specific plans go south one day.
French bread too.
Don't forget the fries!
(Yes, I know, the British say 'chips', but they're wrong.)
Like several things the UK calls "French", they're Belgian.
Kissing?
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To get English muffins you,ll have to cross the Atlantic :demon:
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You could perhaps extend it to include places that are also activities.
You cold have a piss on Piss Pot Island (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Piss+Pot+Island/@39.3349449,-78.7875937,15.5z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x89b57bbd51ce7993:0xcffb036d44e82f7!8m2!3d39.334936!4d-78.781114)
You could take a shit in Shit (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Shit,+Iran/@36.4827243,53.5518261,14.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x3f84d28731d61937:0x51fde1026936e038!8m2!3d36.476945!4d53.5595055)
Or have a wank in Wank (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Wank/@47.6152284,10.5191793,15.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x479d07a20dc4203b:0x1b8c3deb7c210341!8m2!3d47.5072222!4d11.1436111Wank)
And of course, the old favourite, do some fucking in Fucking (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/5121+Fucking,+Austria/@48.0685375,12.8634444,15.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x4775d4854dbcba19:0x802456ee60b72a17!8m2!3d48.0673299!4d12.8633177)
Make sure to stock up on ointment before Cockburnspath.
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Chelsea buns in Chelsea. Wearing Chelsea boots. Alternatively, eat them with a Chelsea Girl in the Chelsea Hotel.
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Montelimar nougat
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Mississippi mud pie in Mississippi.
Baked Alaska in Alaska.
Eton mess cake in Eton.
Christmas pudding on Christmas Island.
An Easter egg on Easter Island.
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Wikipedia has an inordinately long list with a lots of cheese https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foods_named_after_places (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_foods_named_after_places)
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You could go for cakes and confectionery: Dundee cake, Kendal Mint Cake, Pontefract Cakes, Everton Mints (bah Humbug!), Bakewell pudding, Bath buns...
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Let me qualify my requirements slightly..
Nice places. My friend is from Dundee and I have it on good authority that I shouldn't visit.
I have a UK registered Motorhome. Mississippi is a hassle.
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What on Earth made you think you'd get sensible answers? :P
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When we were in Bath a few years ago, we made a point of seeking out the famous Sally Lunn buns. Very disappointing. Don't bother with those.
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Oooh
I'd just go to the Black Forest (for the gateau) and stay there.
Although the best BFG I have ever had was in Corte, on Corsica.
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Sadly, there isn't anywhere in Hungary called Gulyás (that's goulash to you), although it is a not uncommon surname.
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DIY to Melton and back, neck a garage pork pie sat on t' charcoal ftw :thumbsup:
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Sadly, there isn't anywhere in Hungary called Gulyás (that's goulash to you), although it is a not uncommon surname.
Though there is a Tokaj.
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Is the Babycham factory still in
Frome Babycham?
It could be a weekend trial trip
Happy to help
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Berliner Weisse :P
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Tiroler Geröstle
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/718/32263389491_b8fb94e1c0_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Ra1iE4)Tiroler Geröstle (https://flic.kr/p/Ra1iE4) by The Pingus (https://www.flickr.com/photos/the_pingus/), on Flickr
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Then there's Gaisburger Marsch:
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Gaisburger_Marsch.jpg/1024px-Gaisburger_Marsch.jpg)
which is one of the most horrible things I've ever eaten. Indiviually, the ingredents are fine (apart, maybe, from the gristly beef) but they boil them all up together and serve them a-slop with the scalding fluid. Gaisburger? Im Arsch.
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There are loads of Microbreweries In Denmark, that uses local names.
I goes for some ice creams too.
Cheese with local names are rarely made there now. Arla owns most dairys now.
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English breakfast and Welsh cakes provide broad emergency targets to stay on topic with if more specific plans go south one day.
French bread too.
Don't forget the fries!
(Yes, I know, the British say 'chips', but they're wrong.)
Like several things the UK calls "French", they're Belgian.
Kissing?
Letters?
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English breakfast and Welsh cakes provide broad emergency targets to stay on topic with if more specific plans go south one day.
French bread too.
Don't forget the fries!
(Yes, I know, the British say 'chips', but they're wrong.)
Like several things the UK calls "French", they're Belgian.
Kissing?
Letters?
Yes, French kissing can lead to use of French letters.
Point of order, though: French fries is not a UK English term, it's pure American and as far as I can tell, only came to the UK with the arrival of McDonald's in the 1970s. Wimpy menus from the 1960s refer to 'fried potatoes'.
ETA correcting myself: I looked this up out of interest, and it seems 'French-fried potatoes' appeared in an English cookery book in the mid-19th century - when 'French-fried' was a synonym for 'deep-fried' with no specific reference to the shape of the potatoes so cooked. Wiki reckons the origin is disputed, with both Belgium and France claiming ownership. Intriguing!
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Then there's Gaisburger Marsch ... which is one of the most horrible things I've ever eaten.
As a resident of Alsace, surely the only things you ever eat are tarte flambée and choucroute?
(I went to an Alsace-themed restaurant in London once, started by the same people behind ersatz-Belgian chain Belgo, and those were the only two things on the menu. The food was OK, iirc, but the most notable thing about that meal was that it ended in A&E when my companion, wearing open-toed sandals, cut her foot badly on the edge of the metal stairs.)
Could be worse - you could live in the neighbouring départment and be forced to live on a diet of quiche lorraine.
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There are loads of Microbreweries In Denmark, that uses local names.
I goes for some ice creams too.
Cheese with local names are rarely made there now. Arla owns most dairys now.
You can buy rather similar cheeses with rather different geographical names, depending on the location you choose. Is there much taste difference 'twixt Emmenthal, Svenbo and Leerdamer cheese?
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There are loads of Microbreweries In Denmark, that uses local names.
I goes for some ice creams too.
Cheese with local names are rarely made there now. Arla owns most dairys now.
You can buy rather similar cheeses with rather different geographical names, depending on the location you choose. Is there much taste difference 'twixt Emmenthal, Svenbo and Leerdamer cheese?
If you ever get the chance to eat Polish cheeses you will discover that all those and several more differ only in the precise shades of yellow. :hand: :sick:
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As you have now specified nice places, I will refrain from mentioning Barnsley Chops.
How about York Ham?
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Montélimar nougat
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Budweiser in Budvar.
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Czechvar, I think you mean...
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Ahem...
It's Budweiser Budvar, which means "Budvar from Budweis" - Budweis being the German name for the Czech city of České Budějovice.
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Brand names are cheating though,* as so many are named after places they're founded, especially beers. Though not all are still brewed in the same place, of course.
*Unless Lee decides they're not.
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Up until, IIRC, 1990 you could have travelled to Greece and eaten a peanut-infused Mars Bar, but no-one knows where Snickers is.
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Snickers cover the Royal Hunt Cup...
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Up until, IIRC, 1990 you could have travelled to Greece and eaten a peanut-infused Mars Bar, but no-one knows where Snickers is.
But Trump wants to head for Mars. And if that won't get rid of him, there's a lunar crater called McDonald.
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What about Cowes?
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And Barley. Does the F/D have to be named after it's origin, or can it just share the name?
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Brand names are cheating though,* as so many are named after places they're founded, especially beers. Though not all are still brewed in the same place, of course.
*Unless Lee decides they're not.
Where booze is concerned I'm happy to relax the rules and extend town boundaries slightly.
(E.g. Over Christmas I've extended the Calvados region's boundaries into NW Hampshire)