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Title: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Deano on 13 November, 2018, 10:21:47 pm
Once again, I'd like to invite you all to either of my brevets unpopulaire - or, of course, the actual populaire. They're all on Saturday 27th April 2019, from Newby Wiske, North Yorkshire. It's easily reached from the A1 or A19 - it's between Thirsk and Northallerton, both of which are well-served by trains. Look for Grand Central trains for very bike-friendly services from London, York and Sunderland.

Overground Underground (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/19-450/) is a gentle 50 km around some of the pleasant lanes of North Yorkshire, including a trip to the local arboretum. It also has a couple of surprises in it. https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28437678

Don't Keep to the Road (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/19-325/) is 100-anna-bit kms, with the usual mix of bastard hills, offroad climbs and descents, abandoned railways, hidden valleys, forestry trails and pubs. Well, last time I checked, the pub in Hawnby was still shut, but there's still the Lion on Blakey Ridge for the halfway control, and the Dog and Gun in Knayton is a good calling point before the final 10 miles or so. Route: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/25648476

Moor Gravel Forever (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/19-424/) is the same loop, but with an extra loop farther into the Moors making it up to 100 miles. More gravel. More hills. Less hike-a-bike than last year - there's a slight route change, which avoids the lovely cafe in Lealholm, but more importantly avoids the gratuitous hack through the bracken above Fryupdale. Many thanks to all riders for not complaining about this - I loved it, but I've found a proper alternative. I'll get around to updating the routesheet and gpx once I've found a decent control in Glaisdale (the butcher's does good pies, but shuts early on Saturdays). There are a couple of other changes - no more Foxton Lane, though that remains in DKttR. Route: https://ridewithgps.com/routes/28355218

All three events have very generous minimum speeds, and Monket House Bank remains in both of the offroad rides, you'll not be pleased to hear. Despite some lobbying from a couple of riders, I'll not be renaming either ride Welcome to the Monket House - I don't think the world has enough Dandy Warhols/Kurt Vonnegut fans for it to work, sadly.

There's free camping* and food at the start and finish, and an all-night after-ride party. I think we eventually went to bed at 4 am last year - with the 300 on the same day, riders on the 150 will be finishing around the same time as riders on the 300, and you'll probably still be greeted with cowbells. There doesn't seem to be any way for me to stop that, but it'll be a great atmosphere - it was again last year.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1967/45817865622_2ded3ad8f6_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2cNLxbo)(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1948/30928109507_7dc8f01335_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/P81Drn)

* It really is free, but I'll almost certainly wave a charity tin in the direction of anyone camping, cos the start/finish is my mate's farm, and all proceeds from the ride will go to the Alzheimer's Society. No obligation though.

More photos on Flickr (for now), and more in last year's thread (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=105147.msg2282729#msg2282729)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/827/41810538931_156d76e37d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26GDWyT)

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Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Kim on 13 November, 2018, 10:53:07 pm
 :thumbsup:  I think this means I need to not spend the winter losing all my cycling fitness through a series of chest infections...
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Stretch on 14 November, 2018, 12:04:01 pm
Great stuff, looking forward to it already. Easily one of the best days out on a bike that I had last year.
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: D.A.L.E. on 14 November, 2018, 08:11:25 pm
Moor Gravel Forever is one of the toughest days out on a bike I've had at any distance. In a good way.

Hoping I can do a 300 qualifier somewhere else to leave me free to ride it again this year.
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: sojournermike on 14 November, 2018, 08:18:30 pm
Lovely timing. Now which route - off road or the 300?

And could I persuade Mrs S to do the 50, or even DKTTR?

Looking forward already

Mike
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Deano on 14 November, 2018, 08:39:27 pm
Moor Gravel Forever is one of the toughest days out on a bike I've had at any distance. In a good way.

It looks even tougher next year, if you can believe the climbing figure the AAA man has given it! 

(I can't - I think it'll be easier, and i'll send him the route smetime)
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Deano on 14 November, 2018, 10:42:59 pm
:thumbsup:  I think this means I need to not spend the winter losing all my cycling fitness through a series of chest infections...

But which ride do you fancy, Kim?
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Kim on 14 November, 2018, 11:28:04 pm
:thumbsup:  I think this means I need to not spend the winter losing all my cycling fitness through a series of chest infections...

But which ride do you fancy, Kim?

All of them.  (DKTTR seems like a good start.)
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: DrMekon on 15 November, 2018, 08:06:10 am
DKTTR was one of my favourite days out on the bike ever. I can heartily recommend Clement Xplor MSOs as a great mix of cushioning, lateral grip and easy rolling on the road, so long as you don't mind walking up that steep bank!

https://road.cc/content/review/225474-clement-xplor-mso-tyres
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 15 November, 2018, 08:17:26 am
But which ride do you fancy, Kim?

All of them.  (DKTTR seems like a good start.)

I need to find out whether or not my marathon running pal has a place in some event rushing round London, and work out the logistics of how to get her teenager to/round the 50 either way. 

And nag someone else....
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Deano on 19 November, 2018, 10:04:24 pm
Moor Gravel Forever is one of the toughest days out on a bike I've had at any distance. In a good way.

Hoping I can do a 300 qualifier somewhere else to leave me free to ride it again this year.

Aye, 300s are tricky round here. I was sure Andy B was putting one on, but I cannae see it now. There's no Mosstrooper either - in 2015 I went and rode the Plains 300 as that works really well with public transport, and with oatcakes at Radway Green.
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Deano on 19 November, 2018, 10:05:29 pm
:thumbsup:  I think this means I need to not spend the winter losing all my cycling fitness through a series of chest infections...

But which ride do you fancy, Kim?

All of them.  (DKTTR seems like a good start.)

It is a perfect loop (IMO). I'll make sure to lay in spare cards for anyone who wants to swap on the day, too. There are always a couple.
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Deano on 19 November, 2018, 10:05:59 pm
But which ride do you fancy, Kim?

All of them.  (DKTTR seems like a good start.)

I need to find out whether or not my marathon running pal has a place in some event rushing round London, and work out the logistics of how to get her teenager to/round the 50 either way. 

And nag someone else....

And maybe ride your bike a bit? :)
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Deano on 03 March, 2019, 05:35:31 pm
Overground Underground - a few of us went and rode the route yesterday. Luckily, we bumped into the landowner and got his permission to use the lovely former railway bridge over the Swale. I wouldn't be surprised if he chucks his sheep into the field next to it in time for the ride, though ;D

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/OZWHUvXHK9EOfbZjbPsUOGpXeKVud5-cxIiwRArVT2yig3umMrGgW0SejYdw40F_A6h1IsjACsGYbqnqX8y8VulZ6u4jT1CDnKZbj5LY10WSFbK1iUPw0umnu8qQUF3zITHVXWS_5lcEboXLUGOxm5VJ_nfJ1FCtcVg0cEH4Sy3VXPYhvdMS9FGyq4QSwd8uPxQutmWyuvHCraEU3_j8GSFlkPjJEt1HQs4pH_8BqnlNxyrAWv4pA2bxTN5Ys6C6T40vY4A2Dqdx3FtMOak9A-FZoNggCNminaiPYmrsVuS6k-XEM6MiuyNd6rrsqGrLtrDHo5jt-gXX-l-gzQr2yRw_GhbVJplqiMy3L9B-8TC18AhstaWE9vIy1SOZi1UDgtg_HN-orY17iXFP106Y8mG7X-ASlwxKH9w--Ht0dP9syhb8zsJ-vl53B28rXid1_eBsOGGh39hhP1OHAPuwSVkLB_qCGPxKpzq-HJDVeCqxE88jZYtTjzOuRBKeGAvO4AZvt01yQGoL9PYSx01wjRekLuD7hNzw4KNfGkSKKSXE0-38kDvBUF5PKf8cotiHPqjWNPy-qb9TSlp1QVDXqQm-Db-kQMC0VqHxWLCL0qTrLSd7xTB7oFwIVKef0IrElGTwC_02jgNQBHzTdOStetQqEECKMfY=w1092-h819-no)

And we went and checked out the cafe at Thorp Perrow Arboretum - you'll all be fine to use the cafe without paying the entrance fee for the arboretum. Just be sure not to look at any trees ;)

It's a gentle route along quiet lanes with an enjoyable comedy off-road section. And a pub a mile-and-a-half from the finish which is open all day.

https://www.strava.com/activities/2186458511

http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/19-450/
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Chris S on 03 March, 2019, 07:08:29 pm
I'm not seeing any of your images recently, Deano - here or other posts where you've included piccies.
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Kim on 03 March, 2019, 07:17:53 pm
Working for me.  Google gremlins?
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Chris S on 03 March, 2019, 07:24:30 pm
Working for me.  Google gremlins?

Hmm... I need an IT expert.
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Kim on 03 March, 2019, 07:26:16 pm
Working for me.  Google gremlins?

Hmm... I need an IT expert.

Um....err......oh bugger!

(Just tried it in an incognito window, and it didn't load.  Is it only serving up images to people who are logged into google?)
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Deano on 03 March, 2019, 10:55:48 pm
(Just tried it in an incognito window, and it didn't load.  Is it only serving up images to people who are logged into google?)

Looks like it. It's convoluted enough as it is - anyone know a way around that?
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: mcshroom on 03 March, 2019, 11:11:02 pm
Link from the strava images? I think that, or public Facebook pictures works whether you are logged in or not.
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: iddu on 03 March, 2019, 11:34:43 pm
Indeed.  The (Google) hosted URL's self-immolate after an indeterminate period, leaving you with the standard "no entry" symbol,  which really means move along, definitely nothing to see here...use a different hard reference (which for most seems to be some other 24/7 public host)

[Edit: mmm, https://ctrlq.org/google/photos/ appears to offer a route to permenance, at the cost of some faffage... ]
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Deano on 22 April, 2019, 11:36:14 pm
I have a few spare cards left for MGF and DKttR, and plenty for O/U, if anyone is dithering. All lovely rides, and I can promise cake (due to be tested on my workmates tomorrow).
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Flite on 23 April, 2019, 08:26:42 am
I rode the 50km route in February. 
It really is very gentle and not at all hilly. 
If you are not sure if audax is for you, or if you are introducing a newcomer, this is perfect.
The route is  easy to follow. (I'm a technophobe, so I just drew it onto the OS map, but you do need an up-to date version)
Only a short section of easy and interesting non-tarmac road.
Generous time allowance, pretty villages, quiet roads, tea room and pubs, arboretum, castles, medieval churches.
And cake!
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: tom_e on 29 April, 2019, 11:06:11 am
Great day out, though rather wet & filthy.  Definitely reckon the route was better than last year - the bit from Glaisdale back to the Lion was great, and the final section along the edge should have been good if it hadn't been like cycling along a stream in the pissing rain when I was there.  I'll put that last one down to a failure to appreciate on my end.

Note to self: if brake pads are worn beforehand, don't be a tight git.  Replace them beforehand.

Just need to order a new chain & cassette now.

(http://tom-e.yacf.net/imgs2/DSC_0020.JPG)

And I couldn't resist the urge to ride right up to Danby Beacon:

(http://tom-e.yacf.net/imgs2/DSC_0023b.JPG)
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Kim on 29 April, 2019, 01:33:53 pm
A fun day out on the 50 accompanying SmallestCub and CrinklyUncle on the tandem.  In light of trains, I made it a little bit more audacious by bringing the right bike for south London, which spiced up the comedy off-road sections somewhat.  The lovely smooth road alongside the A1 after Kirkby Fleetham was a revelation: For an all too short short while, the Brommie rolled like a proper bicycle.

SmallestCub remained in good spirits, in spite of saddle-sores (I suspect he may be outgrowing that saddle) and a substantial amount of Weather.  CrinklyUncle remained in good spirits as long as his coffee level was kept topped up...

AUK's youngest controller seemed pretty enthusiastic, too.   :thumbsup:

While there weren't any hills to speak of, it was a lot more rolling than I'd expected, although somewhat short of the ISO standard 1%.
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 30 April, 2019, 07:38:19 am
We solved the logistics of getting a tandem to Newby Wiske with support from CrinklyUncle and CrinklyAuntie and the use of LNER.
(https://scontent.flhr2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58381548_10156905140201839_7878916040481046528_n.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_eui2=AeEHRTZK5tBBmKuQSGXMPLzwoPt8Tj_dcrCJAFCyZg-EgklczTk_03KPY9zUhlrxkf_k1Lh3YkgVvYhjOXiFexAeLUgQR-PlsJOLd02i3cFv4g&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr2-1.fna&oh=469ece95be210eaf4ad93e6b0d37de1e&oe=5D72556E)
Tandem and pilot despatched on the 8:35 to Northallerton in the company of Kim and her clown bike, the stoker and I made our way to CrinklyAuntie's and caught a lift to the start with the CrinklyCuz, who was greeted with great enthusiasm and much spoffling by several of those present.  He was most intrigued by his first encounters with people in cycling helmets, and utterly fascinated with Deano's beard.  He then proceeded to do a sterling job of his first attempt at helping at a control.
(https://scontent.flhr2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58543484_10156905140826839_4966998990559117312_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_eui2=AeEOOD7kaIrL2f9wqZHXq6-b3eStdUbnOKBlfN1WW-hkJfd0AfdEGw8_9Cl5aXOLx08E0boXYckoyOR9I8pqIoks48XosqCi6HLGfBJuZ9OTuA&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr2-1.fna&oh=6def8780a616f1cdcc6723f97b6cdc78&oe=5D68F70F)
Once the riders for the 50 were underway we headed off to Thorp Perrow Arboretum where we established ourselves at a table with a partial view of the Arboretum entrance and in full view of the cafe door, where nearly all the riders managed to find us easily and the awkward one or two eventually worked out the automatic door, and decided to get the lunch part of the day out of the way before they all arrived.
(https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58460598_10156905141071839_998327975013253120_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_eui2=AeGtRL23CM013IX5Iaa5lZ84ou4mFa4qoNor66lSQc9O-Y3rJ6JFCi1bTnPwRJL_k27Sat3HzvrEUldd2raFnRJmmXlwU7GhCDruUFz2-wZ_Fw&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr2-2.fna&oh=f0a450f3bca739b8f1b621dad87035f4&oe=5D3B22E9)
AUK's littlest controller decided to delegate the card-stamping duties, taking time for a restorative nap...
(https://scontent.flhr2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/59523707_10156905141531839_3713727443392004096_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_eui2=AeGIC3I5fSbVmfD8KWznKoNVJYl8eHUikxGvH8rx56jDqtRkVu6GSmQw1KeQ1DbKays9NVgY3_noV2bpQZLDECI09giJZtKO457Rjj34n7gw5A&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr2-1.fna&oh=873d1df05792b7345bb58059d64d5040&oe=5D74B10C)
...while his assistants prepared for the arrival of the masses with some extra carb-loading.
(https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58462331_10156905142006839_7134811401670885376_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_eui2=AeFYSbxEriqCaR2JcEAmeTJ9mWhmu3yaAZTpemI_a1bmMVGGSHB32Eg7Y-R0kG0GgfqKR0l4b3B7eSzTFbeqBSkdtqDFUujsjxewljFiNAgvlg&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr2-2.fna&oh=a9f402d8a47fc6c8e809033c3f90a30e&oe=5D7143C2)
The first riders to arrive were told they'd better get some cake in, as they were technically slightly ahead of the control opening time but by the time they'd ordered food, including a rather splendid looking bacon buttie, the stamp came out to work with the vast majority of the riders appearing as one slightly damp group then a few odds and sods trickling in over the next hour.  The CrinklyCrew were the last to arrive, having stopped en route for some essential play park exploration, and CrinklyUncle had an extra task to complete whilst getting his card stamped.
(https://scontent.flhr2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58766085_10156905142896839_7448449520150511616_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_eui2=AeH05gZf5MO6Hh8r73R5FuPaoIBL1sZiwr9SZOjcK1mPhR2tCofj5_PMfJB1SClFolavKHgoNpQNyUa0JlJ9H_3dkCnLWOiH360Rg6GN6GTa9w&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr2-1.fna&oh=2415c329f07b91bd31b7b584d44f6c29&oe=5D3AA346)
Once the TECs had been despatched into the drizzle we left the cafe, after thanking the very cheerful and helpful staff and while carefully avoiding looking at any trees, and headed back to the arrivee to be greeted by most of the field and to await the arrival of our valiant comedy bike gang.  The littlest controller was again handed round a several of audaxers and had a lovely cuddle from his big cuz when he arrived
(https://scontent.flhr2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58444868_10156905143321839_3651132916437614592_n.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_eui2=AeHKLZKcXjI8VxgHZ2OmzTq0poIQD9apUHxuZybSyJfo2QxD6Lh2KqfCQJXtjbclcu5XGMWtFvVwe21FaI4evh8Tc79Bis7l3rL835K_bYcE5w&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr2-2.fna&oh=2eaa79b94ef7e679dd5aa66621dc6a8c&oe=5D676331).
After suitable amounts of tea and cake (or milk for those a little on the young side for such delights) Kim and CrinklyUncle headed off once more under grey skies to the station and the rest of us piled back in the car for the journey south, with bonus double snoring from the back seat.
(https://scontent.flhr2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58580509_10156905143636839_6680974456749293568_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_eui2=AeE7Sqcaep-8qOxTtu9i7YmXzwTcvrzRofvlQDWdroKvSZeL-NR2cSRCfxdKwtl89OD9iPV4N02HRDLl1DtA2mQrhVDn998BtAf-mOYs4nPxVQ&_nc_ht=scontent.flhr2-1.fna&oh=852df786053d8f5900d0ab74ac7bbda4&oe=5D72BDD1)
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Deano on 01 May, 2019, 10:44:13 pm
Yeah, if he was interested in my beard, he should have waited around for Graeme's!

I enjoyed adding the 50 (despite it clashing with the marathon...) - it was much more diverse than the other rides, and encouraged a few more locals to come out and play. And a few talked about riding the 100 next year. I just smiled and said they'd be welcome, though it is a very different proposition.

Some photos here, mostly of the reluctant starters (none of them were keen to leave, and some were less keen than others), and a couple from Kirkby Fleetham of the Wombles: https://photos.app.goo.gl/iubPdSb16eBbau7y5

Hopefully we'll do it all again next year, but a question: do we reckon it's worth extending the 150 km /100-mile ride to 200 km? I'm tempted (and might have a route), but I do worry about disenfranchising the riders who were pushing the 12 kph time limit as it was on MGF. It would be good to get the route out to the coast, though...
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Kim on 01 May, 2019, 11:28:35 pm
Clown bike in audax mode:
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/overground_underground_2019/2019_04_27_12_37_50.sized.jpg)


Obligatory play park break:
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/overground_underground_2019/2019_04_27_12_38_21.sized.jpg)


The Big Fiery Heater™:
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/overground_underground_2019/2019_04_27_15_58_02.sized.jpg)
(Every wet ride should have one of these at the finish.   :thumbsup:)

Sadly no pictures of any of the Weather, nor the comedy off-roading.  Or the gorilla, which only SmallestCub spotted, before we instigated an "always call out interesting wildlife" rule.  We later saw a deer, to which CrinklyUncle remarked "Oh deer!", and answered the age old question of why did the chicken cross the road...
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Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: tom_e on 02 May, 2019, 10:25:47 am
Hopefully we'll do it all again next year, but a question: do we reckon it's worth extending the 150 km /100-mile ride to 200 km? I'm tempted (and might have a route), but I do worry about disenfranchising the riders who were pushing the 12 kph time limit as it was on MGF. It would be good to get the route out to the coast, though...

I don't know how practical it is to give a couple of different speed options, but if it were so then you could perhaps give a super early start time for the generous version of the 200, in order to bring it into an acceptable time window for John & Jill, overlapping the other rides?  Also possibly preferable to do the early [road] portion of the ride in the dark rather than the last [off-road] bit?

mrs_e was expressing an interest though; not sure I could push her towards the 200 in good conscience...
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: chrisbainbridge on 24 August, 2019, 07:27:00 pm
Will this be running next year? I would be keen to try the DKttR and my son Would like to join me.
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Chris S on 24 August, 2019, 07:30:06 pm
Will this be running next year? I would be keen to try the DKttR and my son Would like to join me.

Deano's away on his holihobs, so may not reply with the immediacy that he would like - but I'd be very surprised if it wasn't on; it's become something of a local "occasion", alongside the 300.
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Deano on 24 August, 2019, 08:00:49 pm
Yeah, I am on holiday and I'll sort it out when I get back.

We do still want to do it, but we need to find a different date in the calendar - the original date clashes with Mike's daughter's wedding :)
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Chris S on 24 August, 2019, 08:02:52 pm
Yeah, I am on holiday and I'll sort it out when I get back.

We do still want to do it, but we need to find a different date in the calendar - the original date clashes with Mike's daughter's wedding :)

That's really selfish of her - can't she change it?  ;D

ETA: Better still, merge it with the Stag Do.
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: yorkie on 25 August, 2019, 07:01:10 pm
ETA: Better still, merge it with the Stag Do.


 :jurek: :jurek: :jurek: :jurek: :jurek:
Title: Re: 2019 North Yorkshire Brevet Unpopulaires - now with actual Populaire!
Post by: Deano on 21 October, 2019, 01:34:17 pm
No events from Newby next year - both me and Mike are a bit busy with other stuff.

However, would anyone fancy a version of DKttR from Darlo? I've already got the hall for a weekend in June, and another event on the Sunday (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/20-821/), so I could add a Darlo version.

Any interest? It'd either be a long 100 km, or 150 km to get into the Moors a bit more, and either way most of the additional mileage would be easy stuff across the Tees Valley.
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Post by: Stretch on 21 October, 2019, 08:19:47 pm
I'm interested 👍
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Post by: Deano on 21 October, 2019, 09:38:17 pm
You'll be too busy doing the rough stuff 400, Al (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/20-589/ for anyone who hasn't spotted it).
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Post by: sojournermike on 21 October, 2019, 10:25:33 pm
I'd like to do something. That 400 looks 'interesting', and l'enclume is probably in the wrng place for a stop, but a side trip to Overwater Hall should ensure a comfortable bed and a grand evening meal (with hangover on Sunday!)

I'll have a crack at something Deano. Been missing these rides. So feel free to go for a Darlo based DKTTR or MGF

Mike
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Post by: Stretch on 22 October, 2019, 10:02:34 am
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You'll be too busy doing the rough stuff 400, Al (http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/20-589/ for anyone who hasn't spotted it).

Spoiled for choice that weekend Dean!
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Post by: Deano on 29 October, 2019, 09:28:48 pm
I'd like to do something. That 400 looks 'interesting', and l'enclume is probably in the wrng place for a stop, but a side trip to Overwater Hall should ensure a comfortable bed and a grand evening meal (with hangover on Sunday!)

I'll have a crack at something Deano. Been missing these rides. So feel free to go for a Darlo based DKTTR or MGF

Mike

You won't have time for all that if you ride the 400, Mike! I'm working on a village hall to break it up.

I don't mind putting the ride on, but I'll already have a 600 and a 400 starting the Saturday, and a 200 on the Sunday, and I'll be adding a 100 on-road round the northern Dales on the Sunday as well. With all those options, I'm not sure it's worth putting yet-another ride on the Sunday.
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Post by: sojournermike on 30 October, 2019, 02:03:01 pm
I'd like to do something. That 400 looks 'interesting', and l'enclume is probably in the wrng place for a stop, but a side trip to Overwater Hall should ensure a comfortable bed and a grand evening meal (with hangover on Sunday!)

I'll have a crack at something Deano. Been missing these rides. So feel free to go for a Darlo based DKTTR or MGF

Mike

You won't have time for all that if you ride the 400, Mike! I'm working on a village hall to break it up.

I don't mind putting the ride on, but I'll already have a 600 and a 400 starting the Saturday, and a 200 on the Sunday, and I'll be adding a 100 on-road round the northern Dales on the Sunday as well. With all those options, I'm not sure it's worth putting yet-another ride on the Sunday.

I can see the point. I've a lot of mileage to do between now and next June, but the 400 does appeal. What is the balance between road and off and how rough is the rough stuff? As long as I can sleep, I'll be happy.
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Post by: SoreTween on 14 November, 2019, 05:18:20 pm
Interested.  I'm sure Mr Bond would be too.

DKttR 150km (https://cycle.travel/map/journey/132415) looks nice.

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Post by: Deano on 01 December, 2019, 08:57:55 pm
Interested.  I'm sure Mr Bond would be too.

DKttR 150km (https://cycle.travel/map/journey/132415) looks nice.

Sorry, J (and Al) - I've decided not to run an alternative Darlo DKttR. Realistically, I already have 1300 km of routes to check for that weekend. And my heart says the events belong at Mike's.

I've just registered an on-road 100 km round the Dales, so you'll have that, plus the adventure that is Steele Roads and Woolly Hills, and the other events to choose from.
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Post by: Deano on 01 December, 2019, 09:00:17 pm

I can see the point. I've a lot of mileage to do between now and next June, but the 400 does appeal. What is the balance between road and off and how rough is the rough stuff? As long as I can sleep, I'll be happy.

It's majorly on-road - the proportion is 85-90% roads. But I expect you'll remember the offroad.

As for the details, I'll probably send out a DKttR-stylee Rough Guide to the Rough Stuff to entrants, but I may not. Do you want to be spoon-fed, or do you want an adventure? :)
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Post by: sojournermike on 04 December, 2019, 10:50:05 pm

I can see the point. I've a lot of mileage to do between now and next June, but the 400 does appeal. What is the balance between road and off and how rough is the rough stuff? As long as I can sleep, I'll be happy.

It's majorly on-road - the proportion is 85-90% roads. But I expect you'll remember the offroad.

As for the details, I'll probably send out a DKttR-stylee Rough Guide to the Rough Stuff to entrants, but I may not. Do you want to be spoon-fed, or do you want an adventure? :)

Give me adventure please, with neither milk nor sugar.

Was just thinking about tyres, gears and if I could get a bit of sleep on the way!

I’ll do one of them and aim for the 400. Having said that I do fancy your 300 road route as well.

Thanks Deano..
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Post by: Deano on 07 December, 2019, 09:43:06 pm
Ah, do you mean the Dales 300? That's not running this year, but the ride formerly known as the North Riding 300 has been re-branded as Second Class Return to Scarborough (2CR2Scab for short), and is running again: http://www.aukweb.net/events/detail/20-203/

In other news, I have booked a village hall (at Greystoke) to be shared between the 400 and the 600, so there'll be the opportunity to sleep - though probably not so much on the 400...