Mr R's parents live in Ashtead. Surrey is worse than London to cycle around.
Mr R's parents live in Ashtead. Surrey is worse than London to cycle around.
bits of Surrey, maybe, but most of it's nowhere near as polluted and congested as central London.
... I'm going to go out with a camera once they've finished, but I reckon they'll give Warrington a run for the money.
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Any chance of a sneak preview?
.... fantastic segregated cycle lane which runs between Leatherhead and Dorking.
... and I think something that legitimises cycling there is a great idea and could help reduce the number of cars there in the morning. It's just the execution of the design which is poor, ....
'Dick in a Vanity Vehicle'
They actually paid someone to paint those tiny little chevrons around each lamppost.
If it wasn't so absurd I would scream.
How can councils get away with this ???
I like the lane passing the bus stop. Ideal for mowing pedestrians down as they attempt to board their bus
I was wondering whether that was a Pike Rocket in the comic.. Is this the UK's most ridiculous cycle lane? | Latest News | Cycling Weekly (http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/latest/447826/is-this-the-uk-s-most-ridiculous-cycle-lane.html) (having not followed this thread)
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/nuttycyclist/cycling/Leatherhead/photo7.jpg)
Good Lord. I took those snaps last night. I haven't yet been home long enough to load them up to the computer (hence I emailled them to Nutty for use on this forum). The cycle lane in question is still being painted. By the wonders of the Internet this "Mole Valley Cycle Group" (dunno who they are) have already found the snaps and sent them to Cycling Weekly for publication.
I'm impressed with the speed of the technology (though it might have been nice for the Mole Valley Cycle Group to tell me they were using my snaps. I could gave got some better ones of the next stage of paint if only I'd known).
Nutty: they resurfaced all that section of road and pavement about three months ago. I don't know if the pavement resurfacing was expressly for the purpose of the cycle lane, but it (and the adjacent road) was in an appalling state. The wooden bollards were installed then, presumably to block all the school mums who used to drive and park on the pavement.
Charlotte: nah, it wasn't you. I know how the piccies got there. :)
An accident prone someone perchance? ;D
An accident prone someone perchance? ;D
The pictures were in the public domain
How can councils get away with this ???
They do it all the time. It might be funny if it were only on rare occasions. It isn't.
Nutty may need reminding that the the November 2004 FOTM originated from my camera and was submitted by me to Warrington...
(http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q273/nuttycyclist/cycling/Leatherhead/photo7.jpg)
The plot thickens... I've just looked at that photo in streetview. Am I right in thinking thta they've grubbed up the grass verge in order to lay this tarmac'd cycle path??????
Google Maps (http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Southend-on-Sea,+Essex,+United+Kingdom&ll=51.298004,-0.320057&spn=0,359.995177&t=h&z=18&layer=c&cbll=51.297948,-0.320215&panoid=NPEgMiKfvT02V52xyFslBQ&cbp=12,11.28,,0,18.54)
<lightbulb> I know, a Penny Farthing.
Now if only we knew somebody with one.
Just had a bit of a random thought. I wonder if, for shits and giggles, it would be worth reporting the whole thing as a hazard on fillthathole..org.uk?
We need a photo op with a bike that emphasises the narrowness of the lanes.
A bike with a very tall profile, such that it appears thinner than a "normal" bike, ridiculing these lanes.
A bike that will stick in the mind of Joe or Jo Public.
<lightbulb> I know, a Penny Farthing.
Now if only we knew somebody with one.
We need a photo op with a bike that emphasises the narrowness of the lanes.
A bike with a very tall profile, such that it appears thinner than a "normal" bike, ridiculing these lanes.
A bike that will stick in the mind of Joe or Jo Public.
<lightbulb> I know, a Penny Farthing.
Now if only we knew somebody with one.
Perhaps also a bike that's a bit wider than normal such as an upright trike.
I was about to suggest myself, but I was reprievedWe need a photo op with a bike that emphasises the narrowness of the lanes.
A bike with a very tall profile, such that it appears thinner than a "normal" bike, ridiculing these lanes.
A bike that will stick in the mind of Joe or Jo Public.
<lightbulb> I know, a Penny Farthing.
Now if only we knew somebody with one.
Perhaps also a bike that's a bit wider than normal such as an upright trike.
Or a cyclist who's wider than usual, like Clarion... ;D
(I owed him that for the Caption It thread)
I think you will find that "others" means motorists.
Part of my job is to plan cycle routes which, when it comes to design, includes bridging the gap between car-centric traffic engineers and people who actually sit astride a bike every now and again. I hear some dumbass ideas at times but it is still absolutely staggering that in this day and age, such an immense clusterfuck actually made in onto the ground.
A27 (1) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Sevenoaks+Rd,+Portsmouth,+Hampshire+PO6,+United+Kingdom&sll=50.824861,-1.179314&sspn=0.017946,0.056992&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FXbnBwMdKJ3v_w&split=0&hq=&hnear=Sevenoaks+Rd,+Portsmouth,+Hampshire+PO6,+United+Kingdom&ll=50.847153,-1.099663&spn=0.002005,0.014248&z=16&layer=c&cbll=50.847156,-1.099658&panoid=Al7k5PgGlTSIKsFR6FkOhQ&cbp=11,273.15,,0,9.71)
A27(2) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=sevenoaks+rod&sll=50.824861,-1.179314&sspn=0.017946,0.056992&ie=UTF8&ll=50.847031,-1.104662&spn=0.002005,0.022423&z=16&layer=c&cbll=50.847029,-1.100583&panoid=0ViKXsFhdIxff-YxTzCNlA&cbp=11,55.89,,0,5)
Width is not just the issue, this is an area in Portsmouth where the cycle path is perfectly wide enough- if only t was useable.
The Police have state that the company is doing its best not to inconvenience others and will not take action - so for once a reasonable cycle path, but as it is unenforced it is still unusable.
A27 (1) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Sevenoaks+Rd,+Portsmouth,+Hampshire+PO6,+United+Kingdom&sll=50.824861,-1.179314&sspn=0.017946,0.056992&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FXbnBwMdKJ3v_w&split=0&hq=&hnear=Sevenoaks+Rd,+Portsmouth,+Hampshire+PO6,+United+Kingdom&ll=50.847153,-1.099663&spn=0.002005,0.014248&z=16&layer=c&cbll=50.847156,-1.099658&panoid=Al7k5PgGlTSIKsFR6FkOhQ&cbp=11,273.15,,0,9.71)
A27(2) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=sevenoaks+rod&sll=50.824861,-1.179314&sspn=0.017946,0.056992&ie=UTF8&ll=50.847031,-1.104662&spn=0.002005,0.022423&z=16&layer=c&cbll=50.847029,-1.100583&panoid=0ViKXsFhdIxff-YxTzCNlA&cbp=11,55.89,,0,5)
Width is not just the issue, this is an area in Portsmouth where the cycle path is perfectly wide enough- if only t was useable.
The Police have state that the company is doing its best not to inconvenience others and will not take action - so for once a reasonable cycle path, but as it is unenforced it is still unusable.
That's my commute!
I can't believe that the google wagon managed to snip the car transporter on both sides of the road.
Personally, I don't use any of these A27 pavement lanes.
A27 (1) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Sevenoaks+Rd,+Portsmouth,+Hampshire+PO6,+United+Kingdom&sll=50.824861,-1.179314&sspn=0.017946,0.056992&ie=UTF8&cd=1&geocode=FXbnBwMdKJ3v_w&split=0&hq=&hnear=Sevenoaks+Rd,+Portsmouth,+Hampshire+PO6,+United+Kingdom&ll=50.847153,-1.099663&spn=0.002005,0.014248&z=16&layer=c&cbll=50.847156,-1.099658&panoid=Al7k5PgGlTSIKsFR6FkOhQ&cbp=11,273.15,,0,9.71)
A27(2) (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=sevenoaks+rod&sll=50.824861,-1.179314&sspn=0.017946,0.056992&ie=UTF8&ll=50.847031,-1.104662&spn=0.002005,0.022423&z=16&layer=c&cbll=50.847029,-1.100583&panoid=0ViKXsFhdIxff-YxTzCNlA&cbp=11,55.89,,0,5)
Width is not just the issue, this is an area in Portsmouth where the cycle path is perfectly wide enough- if only t was useable.
The Police have state that the company is doing its best not to inconvenience others and will not take action - so for once a reasonable cycle path, but as it is unenforced it is still unusable.
That's my commute!
I can't believe that the google wagon managed to snip the car transporter on both sides of the road.
Personally, I don't use any of these A27 pavement lanes.
I think Keeks also goes this route. Do you ride this way regularly Cunobelin? It seems there are a few yacfers commuting on the same road.
I think you will find that "others" means motorists.
+1
Although, to be fair to the driver, from the pictures it appears that there's plenty of room to go round his wagon, and it's on the side away from the traffic, so while the Police's reasoning is flawed I can't get worked up about their conclusion...
Our local piece of brilliance has been the installation of a raised zebra crossing on Nightingale Road. As it's a busy road, they sensibly built half of the crossing, using a light-control on the other half of the road. Then they switched sides and built the other half. During this time, at least one car managed to scrape the edge of the platform. ::-)I normally think raised zebra crossings are a good idea, but that one deserves a biscuit. Or a bang on the head for the builders, as presumably it was their fault rather than the design.
But there was a problem. They didn't join up the two halves in the middle because...they were different heights :facepalm:
So they've had to dismantle the first half & rebuild. ::-)
Personally, I don't use any of these A27 pavement lanes.I lived in Portchester before and about the time they put these in. Heading east (Portsmouth bound) I would use the road, westward I would usually divert through Allaway Avenue to avoid the "facility" unless traffic was light, say a Sunday.
IF and I say IF again we as a society are going to have shared use footways where cycles and pedestrians and prams and dog walkers are allowed then why don't we just put up a sigh which says "This footway is a shared use facility - if you're going to cycle along it, please give way to slower people". That would save an absolute fortune on useless white lines, and indeed dangerous slippy white lines and intricately oriented tactile paving.It would also require an attitude change. Which would be wonderful if extended - fast cars would then give way to slower cyclists and pedestrians.
Anyone know how many pot holes that could have fixed?I've seen average costs quoted anywhere from £50 - £250 per pothole. So 280 - 1,400 mended holes.
An investigation was held after work on Knoll Roundabout in Leatherhead cost £626,852 instead of the estimated £298,884.
On Tuesday, Surrey County Council auditors delivered a report to Mole Valley Local Committee on the project.
Part of the overspend was caused by the creation of a cycle path on Epsom Road, which was later removed after it was found to be dangerous.
Reviving this thread, I see on the Surrey Mirror website that:QuoteAn investigation was held after work on Knoll Roundabout in Leatherhead cost £626,852 instead of the estimated £298,884.
On Tuesday, Surrey County Council auditors delivered a report to Mole Valley Local Committee on the project.
Part of the overspend was caused by the creation of a cycle path on Epsom Road, which was later removed after it was found to be dangerous.
Is this the same path?
Rest of the article is here. (http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/news/Censure-163-300-000-roundabout-overspend/article-2984050-detail/article.html)
Note that the councillor mentioned in the article is not me.
IF and I say IF again we as a society are going to have shared use footways where cycles and pedestrians and prams and dog walkers are allowed then why don't we just put up a sigh which says "This footway is a shared use facility - if you're going to cycle along it, please give way to slower people". That would save an absolute fortune on useless white lines, and indeed dangerous slippy white lines and intricately oriented tactile paving.But we as a society are so far from that, that asking people to slow down because they share the road with others seems a little unlikely. But desirable. It could be tried, I suppose.
*I remember clearly the article used this phrase.