Author Topic: TdeF 2016 (Contains spoilers)  (Read 59827 times)

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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #50 on: 05 July, 2016, 03:37:09 pm »
It is good to see the Manx Missile firing on all cylinders again. It would be nice to see him hanging on to get another Champs Elysee victory but, I think the Olympics may drag him away before then.

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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #51 on: 05 July, 2016, 03:39:44 pm »
The German commentator pronounces him 'Tohma Vo-claire'
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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #52 on: 05 July, 2016, 03:43:33 pm »
The German commentator pronounces him 'Tohma Vo-claire'
So it's not only the Brits who are crap at reading foreign names!
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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #53 on: 05 July, 2016, 04:05:48 pm »
If you thought yesterday's result was close...

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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #54 on: 05 July, 2016, 04:08:09 pm »
Yeah that was a fast/close one.
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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #55 on: 05 July, 2016, 04:32:48 pm »
Yeah that was a fast/close one.


It was indeed. And I am £20 better off after sticking a couple of quid on Kittel with about 30k to go  :)
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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #56 on: 05 July, 2016, 05:12:31 pm »
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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #57 on: 05 July, 2016, 07:09:00 pm »
I wonder if these stages are proportionately the closest races in any sport?
I make 10mm after 235km about 5 millionths of a percent of the total distance.

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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #58 on: 05 July, 2016, 08:39:47 pm »
Little Tommy VoecklerTM was involved in today's break as well.  Dunno what Cav thought he was doing today; he looked to be way too far back even before he got boxed in when things started to hot up.
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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #59 on: 06 July, 2016, 09:03:28 am »
The German commentator pronounces him 'Tohma Vo-claire'
So it's not only the Brits who are crap at reading foreign names!

Ned Boulting pronounces it pretty much this way as well.

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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #60 on: 06 July, 2016, 09:09:50 am »
I wonder if these stages are proportionately the closest races in any sport?
I make 10mm after 235km about 5 millionths of a percent of the total distance.
Quite possibly; I cant think of anything right now.

But as you know, it's not truly 235km of "racing" in the case of a sprint finish.
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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #61 on: 06 July, 2016, 09:19:24 am »
I wonder if these stages are proportionately the closest races in any sport?
I make 10mm after 235km about 5 millionths of a percent of the total distance.

The Whitbread (now Volvo) round the world multi-stage yacht race, with stages lasting up to 20 days, has had stages won by mere minutes. But that is rare.
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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #62 on: 06 July, 2016, 09:21:21 am »
I think the closest margin for the entire TdF was something like 8 seconds. That's a pretty tight margin after three weeks on the road.

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« Reply #63 on: 06 July, 2016, 09:28:52 am »
I think the closest margin for the entire TdF was something like 8 seconds. That's a pretty tight margin after three weeks on the road.
Was that Lemond?

That's a much "truer" margin, in that they battled over many km of climbs as well as that final TT. (Still not 3 weeks of actual contest though!)
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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #64 on: 06 July, 2016, 09:36:39 am »
A quick wiki lookup confirms my memory - 8 seconds between Lemond and second placed Fignon in 1989.

Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #65 on: 06 July, 2016, 09:43:16 am »
The 1966 Le Mans 24hrs was decided by 8 metres after 4843.09 km by virtue of the two Ford GT40s crossing the line together but one started on the grid 8m in front of the other.

I'm not sure what that is as a percentage, it wouldn't have been a proper race by that point. It would have been arranged so they got a photo finish as they were team mates and so far ahead of any opposition.
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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #66 on: 06 July, 2016, 10:58:24 am »
An interesting read in light of yesterday's result:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photo_finish

Horse racing allows a "dead heat".  The photo of a triple dead heat in trap racing is pretty cool.

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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #67 on: 06 July, 2016, 11:13:07 am »
There is an interesting comparison of the merits of finish line cameras and conventional cameras from the tour of britain stage 7 where TV replay and finish line cameras gave different results.





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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #68 on: 06 July, 2016, 11:26:32 am »
Cavendish referred to camera angles, position of finish line, etc when talking about his stage 3 win. He said he had no idea whether he'd won or not until the announcement was made.

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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #69 on: 06 July, 2016, 02:27:18 pm »
The 1966 Le Mans 24hrs was decided by 8 metres after 4843.09 km by virtue of the two Ford GT40s crossing the line together but one started on the grid 8m in front of the other.

I'm not sure what that is as a percentage, it wouldn't have been a proper race by that point. It would have been arranged so they got a photo finish as they were team mates and so far ahead of any opposition.

Ken Miles backed off sharply just before the line in protest.
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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #70 on: 06 July, 2016, 03:24:32 pm »
Are my eyes deceiving me or is Nibbles in trubbles ???
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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #71 on: 06 July, 2016, 03:27:47 pm »
I think so. But he still looked fairly chipper.

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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #72 on: 06 July, 2016, 03:29:34 pm »
Yeah it is all go today.

I like the way the photo of the spokes on the finish line :)
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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #73 on: 06 July, 2016, 03:33:04 pm »
On an unrelated note, are the ITV4 adverts standard daytime TV fodder or are they TdF audience targeted? I hope the former. I now know exactly who to turn to for slightly dodgy life insurance, very dodgy high interest loans, and equally dubious PPI claims and ambulance chasing lawyers. Oh, and how to give money to dogs.

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Re: TdeF 2016
« Reply #74 on: 06 July, 2016, 04:19:36 pm »
The adverts are much better than when coverage used to be late at night.  "Text GIRLS to 07891 xxx ... Text LOVE to 07891 xxx ... Text BOYS to 07..."  ::-)

Yeah it is all go today.

I like the way the photo of the spokes on the finish line :)

Here is why the spokes bend: The Photo Finish Explained - inrng.com