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General Category => Audax => Topic started by: Manotea on 09 February, 2017, 04:05:44 pm

Title: Elenith 2017
Post by: Manotea on 09 February, 2017, 04:05:44 pm
Is there an Elenith 2017 thread? If not then there is now...

For 'tis the next waypoint for 'the greatest comeback since Lazarus' ... assuming I make it past The Dean and the 3Down.... :)
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: fussballclub on 09 February, 2017, 04:17:30 pm
Managed to get myself and a bike in a train from London today. :)
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: veloboy on 09 February, 2017, 10:56:45 pm
Sadly conflicts with my other favourite ride, The Hard Boiled 300! And despite starting four hours earlier, me think it won't be possible to get round lumpy Dorset and Devon kms in time to start Yr Elenydd ;-D
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: U.N.Dulates on 07 March, 2017, 08:30:59 pm
Entries now at 129. Will be closing at 150 so don't leave it to the last minute if you want a place this year.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: bikey-mikey on 08 March, 2017, 12:22:29 pm
Glad I entered quite a while ago.

Folks this is one of THE great rides - find a way to come along ✔️✔️
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: simonp on 08 March, 2017, 12:28:17 pm
Can't decide if gears.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: Bairn Again on 08 March, 2017, 01:29:54 pm
im in.

with the snow roads not on the calendar Im missing a hilly 300. 

been meaning to do this one for years!
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: Ivan on 08 March, 2017, 02:16:42 pm
Looking forward to it - should be the first proper outing of my new Burls fixed machine.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: jamesld8 on 08 March, 2017, 07:41:15 pm
Looking forward to it - should be the first proper outing of my new Burls fixed machine.
::-) ::-) ::-) ::-) Good luck mate ! 20 gear for me 34 x34 lowest methinks
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: Hot Flatus on 08 March, 2017, 07:43:07 pm
Can't decide if gears.

Clearly gears are for wimps.

Are you a wimp?
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: simonp on 08 March, 2017, 07:45:43 pm
Can't decide if gears.

Clearly gears are for wimps.

Are you a wimp?

I used gears last year, so must be.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: Manotea on 08 March, 2017, 08:13:53 pm
T'will be my first outing on gears in Wales.... practice for Italy in the summer. :)

I must admit to looking forward to the descent before Rhayader (assuming the modern route still goes that way...); it's a killer on fixed gear!
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: Tull924 on 09 March, 2017, 12:39:01 pm
In a moment of madness I hit the enter button. Can the organiser please confirm what weather he has ordered for the event, ideally >10 degC, tailwind out and back if possible please  :)
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: Steve Orchard on 12 March, 2017, 04:40:31 pm
Looking forward to this

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Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: jamesld8 on 12 March, 2017, 07:34:44 pm
In a moment of madness I hit the enter button. Can the organiser please confirm what weather he has ordered for the event, ideally >10 degC, tailwind out and back if possible please  :)

dream on  ;D
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: Rumps on 13 March, 2017, 05:36:02 pm
swrc will be there and looking forward to it. The Sloth has been told to bring his camera.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: simonp on 30 March, 2017, 02:18:53 pm
This is going to be a camping trip after looking at TL prices.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: jamesld8 on 30 March, 2017, 06:15:57 pm
This is going to be a camping trip after looking at TL prices.

The village hall field is a very pleasant spot :) for camping !! Be warned though nearby Haughmond was  fully booked for meals that Friday evening when I tried a reservation for eats.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: U.N.Dulates on 03 April, 2017, 12:15:35 pm
Tfe Haughmond does get very busy Friday and Saturday nights. Mytton and Mermaid in nearby Atcham is a good alternative.

Final route check done over the weekend. Hauled the tandem over the mountain roads - made it up the Devil's Staircase with only one foot fault (car coming down the hill). A couple of minor updates to the route sheet which have been uploaded to AUKWeb. Confirmation emails have been sent out to all entrants - check your spam folders etc if awol.

A few pics on Facebook  (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1946640898901093.1073741834.100006656048609&type=3) Hopefully we haven't used up all the good weather for you.

Donations from the Abergwesyn checkpoint this year will be going towards the JustGiving  (https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/Mikehall)appeal for funds to support Mike Hall's family.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: zakalwe on 03 April, 2017, 01:05:54 pm
Does anyone know if there's a discreet place to tuck a bike away at the village hall overnight?  I'm planning to sleep in the luxury of my hatchback (don't own a tent), but I don't think I'll fit in there with a bike :( Would I be a fool to leave it out overnight?

Edit: Ah, I see from John's email that we will be able to store bikes in the hall :)
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: itinerant on 03 April, 2017, 08:18:55 pm

A few pics on Facebook  (https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.1946640898901093.1073741834.100006656048609&type=3) Hopefully we haven't used up all the good weather for you.

The photos make it all the more annoying that I hesitated and missed the chance to enter before closure. Hope you have a great day.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: basset on 05 April, 2017, 08:27:04 am
Looks like we had better pack the sun cream 😎 But it would be a brave man/woman who headed into Wales without his waterproof 👀
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: jamesld8 on 05 April, 2017, 08:51:11 pm
Looks like we had better pack the sun cream 😎 But it would be a brave man/woman who headed into Wales without his waterproof 👀

strange to say bit sun does shine in Wales :) looks like quite a temp range for the day up to 14c from morning 5c so layers in order ? Difficult--frosty here (Radnor Valley) this morning then lovely warm sunshine pm. But a darn sight better than 2016 snow and hail !!!
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: nomeansno on 06 April, 2017, 03:32:36 pm
Looking forward to this now, my first Elenith. Weather forecast is looking good, bit chilly first thing but a dry,sunny afternoon.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: simonp on 06 April, 2017, 03:34:40 pm
I think it's going to be gears, and soot.

Mudguards rule does not apply. Tempted to remove the race blades and risk it.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: simonp on 06 April, 2017, 03:35:39 pm
Also I realised I could save a lot on Travelodges by booking Fri night in Shrewsbury and Sat night on the way home.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: jamesld8 on 06 April, 2017, 06:38:41 pm
I think it's going to be gears, and soot.

Mudguards rule does not apply. Tempted to remove the race blades and risk it.

No rain for days this week and non forecast ---go for it Simon !!
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: Hot Flatus on 06 April, 2017, 06:54:16 pm
Not riding, but I think it'll be a repeat of that classic Wolverley era ride about 6 or 7 years ago or so when there was no snow, hail, wind or rain, just warm sun and everyone got round in record time with a massive grin.

Nuncio will remember that one  :)
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: Manotea on 06 April, 2017, 11:35:48 pm
After a touch of the wobbles brought on by a navigation fiasco on The Dean which saw me back in Oxford by 9am followed by two weeks of lurgy it appears I'll be on the 14:00 from Euston arriving new Street 15:30 for a leisurely ride up to Upton Magna, about 65km. How much of the Elenith I'll complete is anybody's guess but everything is booked and paid for, and I'll have a days riding in Wales one way or another. The word is the sun may even put in an appearence. What's not to like? :)
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: simonp on 07 April, 2017, 12:22:17 am
I saw you turned back fairly early on. What happened? I almost packed for non bike related reasons but a phone call saved the day.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: Manotea on 07 April, 2017, 12:42:44 am
I think I went off route, turned and then started following the track back to oxford instead of the route on to Stow... 'Navigation fiasco' is putting it kindly...

I did wonder why you were going the other way... having seen you on the phone earlier I figured YOU were abandoning. You couldn't make it up. :)
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: Bairn Again on 07 April, 2017, 12:50:07 pm
I had to DNS this as my other half needs the car this weekend and theres no practical way to get to the start from Edinburgh without incurring huge last minute train costs (organiser has been informed).

Instead I'm setting off at around 1600 today for an overnight one way Edinburgh-to-Aberdeen-the-long-way 300km DIY. 

Light SW wind, no rain forecast and an almost full moon, near perfect conditions I hope to allow me a nice lunch in Aberdeen and perhaps even a pint in the Prince of Wales before the train back to the capital just before 3pm.   

Hope to break my Upton Magna duck with the National 400.

Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: Pedal Castro on 07 April, 2017, 01:31:05 pm
I just need to decide if I should switch out my front 50mm carbon rim and replace with a normal alloy rimmed wheel. No rain and lightish wind so tempted to stick with the carbon, just a little concerned if there are many hills that are going to require much drag braking.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: jamesld8 on 07 April, 2017, 03:48:40 pm
Final Long descent down to Tregaron needs a lot of braking, narrow, twisty at top; Also descent off Devils Staircase very fast and steep to T junction, and then RH corner . needs care. enjoy.

Me? I`m taking bike with discs brakes
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: simonp on 07 April, 2017, 04:10:34 pm
There are steep technical descents. And cattle grids.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: U.N.Dulates on 07 April, 2017, 05:36:52 pm
Long, steep, technical descents.

Forecast improving daily. Up to 17/18c likely in the afternoon. Tempting fate but may be bring the suncream.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: basset on 09 April, 2017, 08:21:58 pm
Thanks to John for putting on another great event, the weather was the best it's been in the 3 years I have been doing it , no snow this year 👍 Just a bit of a head wind back .Its back to Upton For the national 400 in a few months for a few less hills 😉
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: Planet X Paul on 10 April, 2017, 11:41:55 am
My first time on The Elenyyd and what a brute of a ride it was.  Freezing cold and foggy start and I was glad I was dressed for winter, but when the sun eventually made an appearance the temperature soared and I was now very much overdressed with wind stopper jacket, winter tights and overshoes.

I made the mistake of not drinking enough early on and paid the price over the toughest section between Abergwesyn and Tregaron.  The Devil got me big time  :demon: and I suffered with severe cramp down the inside of my thigh.  Even trying to get back on the bike on a flat section made me cramp up, never mind trying to put some pressure on the pedals.  I feared for the rest of the ride and even considered packing, but then would have the logistical problem of getting back to the start.

Eventually got to Tregaron and drunk lots of water with salt and sugar added.  It was pretty disgusting as a drink, but it had to be done.  Fed myself, had more drinks and then set off in last place with another couple.  The route to Rhayader was beautiful and I managed the whole climb with no hint of cramp, and felt pretty good.  However, unlike earlier, I managed to drink 2 bottles on this section to keep my hydration up.

The heat faded with the dusk and I felt more comfortable with my winter kit.  The hills continued to come and go and the miles flowed until I eventually finished with 45 minutes to spare and pleased to crawl into my tent to sleep the dreamless sort of sleep you only seem to do when exhausted.

In spite of my sufferings, this was a truly stunning ride with outstanding scenery and glorious weather (although not always guaranteed).  Many thanks to John for organising this wonderful event.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: simonp on 10 April, 2017, 11:54:38 am
I am comparing the Strava ride for 2014, 17h21 compared to this time (19h30).

I was on fixed on 2014, and got round over 2h faster. I know I had a month off training in February but really did expect to do better than this. The only time it's been slower was on the tandem. Last year on gears wasn't very fast either.

At least I can still ride up the 4 steep climbs over the mountain road on the way out. The first time I rode this event (in its original form) in 2008 that was beyond me, and I'm 13kg heavier now!

Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: Rumps on 10 April, 2017, 07:02:27 pm
My first Elenith and what a fine place to ride a bike Wales is.......sometimes. And Saturday was one of those times. All thanks to John for a superbly organised event. The extra effort showed and is appreciated by all riders. The helpers were all great and a first class choice of controls -the service and welcome at the Bowls Club were brilliant. It is fairly unusual to be provided with a hot meal within 10 seconds of ordering it.  What a shame one of my riding companions missed it....
Thanks also to the friendly bunch of riders I shared parts of the day with.

I am looking forward to seeing the Sloth's photos and videos.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: U.N.Dulates on 10 April, 2017, 08:03:46 pm
Well done to everyone who took part in this year’s 31st edition of the The Elenith / Yr Elenydd.

The provisional results are up on the AUK website (http://www.aukweb.net/results/detail/this/listevent/?Ride=17-748) and your completed brevet cards have been sent off to Audax UK for validation.
 
The final stats for the day – 152 entries, 118 starters and 111 successful finishers. That’s the highest number since I took over the event from Dave Pountney back in 2012.
 
Just like last year the talking point seemed to be the weather, although for very different reasons. 2016 was noted for snow and hail, 2017 was wall to wall sunshine once the early mist had burnt off. The warm weather and light winds allowed some very quick times to be set – the first riders were back in a new course record of 12hrs 16mins. At the other end of the field, some of you found the heat a bit much and  recorded their slowest times. This year was also notable for the number of ladies riding, with 7 on solos, plus a further 2 stoking tandems – congratulations to them all – you’re in fairly exclusive company as there’s not that many have ridden the event.
 
During the day I managed to get a few photos at Abergwesyn – these are on t’interweb - https://goo.gl/photos/txPb7LL4KcfKmA8z9 (https://goo.gl/photos/txPb7LL4KcfKmA8z9).
 
As always, massive thanks to all the controls and the volunteers who came out to help run them – Linda, Bernard, John & Hazel, Steve, Paul, Anne & Martin at Upton Magna; Wendy & Fiona at Shobdon; Joolz for standing in at the last minute at Abergwesyn; everyone at Clwb Bowlio Tregaron; Annie and the staff of the last homely house that is the Wheelwrights; and the café staff at Shobdon and Rhayader. Without them this event just wouldn’t happen.
 
Thank you for all your donations at Abergwesyn. We’ve collected £347.73 which will be going to the JustGiving appeal for the family of Mike Hall.

Next year’s Elenydd is provisionally scheduled in for Sat 14th April, but in the meantime if this has whetted your appetite for more of the Marches and mid Wales scenery, you may be interested in my events on September 16th – with 4 rides from 120k to 300k there’s something for everyone. Full details are on the Audax UK website.

Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: thesloth on 11 April, 2017, 12:49:28 am
Really enjoyed that. Great route, well organised, great controls & good company. A pity about the weather, but you can't have it all I guess!

Some lovely remote spots. We saw an otter in one of the rivers we passed, a first for me.

Some photos and videos (https://flic.kr/s/aHskXETJqR).
...probably a few too many videos for consumption, but that may have been summer come and gone and so I did my best to record it.
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: thing1 on 11 April, 2017, 05:00:27 am
Not riding, but I think it'll be a repeat of that classic Wolverley era ride about 6 or 7 years ago or so when there was no snow, hail, wind or rain, just warm sun and everyone got round in record time with a massive grin.

Nuncio will remember that one  :)

6 years ago? The FB just reminded me of it this morning!

(https://audaxing.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/emmatandem2.jpg)
image (c) vorsprung April 2011 (https://audaxing.wordpress.com/2011/04/10/elenith-300km-photos/)

Wonderful memories.

I believe 2010 was also superb - even clearer skis due to no air traffic due to Eyjafjallajökull. The very same reason that we DNS.... (stuck in wrong country error).
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: ProfessorKB on 11 April, 2017, 10:59:24 am
Great ride on Saturday.  Loved the route, the company, the stops,  everything.   And if that wasn't enough,  photos from John and the Sloth bring back some great memories.     :D
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: αdαmsκι on 11 April, 2017, 11:24:11 am
I believe 2010 was also superb - even clearer skis due to no air traffic due to Eyjafjallajökull. The very same reason that we DNS.... (stuck in wrong country error).

The 2010 version was fantastic (and was my first official 300).

(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4533536245_079169fcd1_m.jpg) (http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4001/4533536245_079169fcd1_b.jpg)
Somewhere before the Devil's Staircase

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2727/4533536121_ce7b4bdcff_m.jpg) (http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2727/4533536121_ce7b4bdcff_b.jpg)
Mal Volio before Abergwesyn
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: Clemo on 11 April, 2017, 05:14:42 pm
Thanks John, that was a stunning event  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Elenith 2017
Post by: jamesld8 on 11 April, 2017, 07:31:08 pm
Big thanks to John and all his helpers for another challenging Elenydd--my fourth consecutive to date and in many ways by far the hardest; got well done in by the heat on section Tregaron - Rhayader; doubted if I could continue but summoned up energy from a rest at The Strand. Was very glad of the company of Dave (IIRC) from Wheelwrights to Upton helped me thro` the last stretch. A tough ride indeed given large variation in conditions , -1 c , then foggy then 20c .....found it more testing in many ways than the snow / hail of 2016.