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Title: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 27 July, 2021, 09:52:33 pm
200 Manningtree start https://audax.uk/event-details?eventId=9257
200 Buntingford start: https://audax.uk/event-details?eventId=9625
100: https://audax.uk/event-details?eventId=9534

[The info below is all about the 200.]

This is a long way in advance, but as I am now on holiday and unable to leave Plague Island, I've been planning...

I have ridden Green & Yellow Fields 300 and Asparagus & Strawberries 400 a number of times, but also found it a bit of a shame there wasn't a complementary 200 from Manningtree. It always seemed a good place to start a ride; convenient public transport links esp from east London, massive car park, very quick access to lovely roads and beer at the finish :thumbsup:.

Having spoken with Huggy & Tomsk I've now taken the decision to solve this issue by organising a Manningtree 200. It'll be based on Herman Ramsay's 200 perm, as it was Herman who originally set up the Green & Yellow Fields 300 and Asparagus & Strawberries 400. Details have been registered with AUK, with a date set for Saturday 2nd April. To keep with the naming of the 300 and 400 this ride is called Essex & Suffolk Borders.

The ride will start from Manningtree, retrace the A&S400 route to Saffron Walden and carry on to Great Chishill. The first control will be at the Great Chishill windmill. This makes a long first leg, but there's plenty of facilities on the route if needed. From there the ride continues on to Barley and Barkway, before turning off to drop into Buntingford, which is pretty much halfway.

The return involves an info control in Manuden (just north of Bishop's Stortford) and the route then heads north-east to Lavenham via Radwinter, Steeple Bumpstead, Stoke by Clare and Long Melford. It's almost 75 km from Buntingford to Lavenham, but again facilities are available on the route if required.

The final section back to Manningtree is via Boxford, Polstead and Stratford St. Mary.

It is a choppy route. There aren't any stand out climbs, but it is constant ups and downs for pretty much the whole route. There's loads of extremely quaint villages on route, for example: Bures, Finnichingfield, Saffron Walden, Stoke by Clare, Long Melford and Lavenham and only ~10 km of A roads, which are pretty quiet A roads too. The rest is either lanes or good quality B roads. Should be a fab day out, hopefully with spring weather rather than an extended winter.

More details will come closer to the time; this is just as a heads up about the event.

(https://i.ibb.co/P6MqWPn/Manningtree-200-route-elevation.png) (https://ibb.co/x7YxgB0)



Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: quixoticgeek on 27 July, 2021, 10:36:26 pm

If this is run as a BRM, and travel works. I am very tempted to nip over to ride it!

J
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 27 July, 2021, 10:43:13 pm
Yes BRM
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: quixoticgeek on 27 July, 2021, 10:59:46 pm
Yes BRM

Fantastic. You mention that it's always up or down, what are the gradients like?

J
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: bhoot on 28 July, 2021, 12:05:29 am
Nice one - anything with easy train travel gets my vote. Thanks Adam for a very worthy addition to the calendar.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: Andy W on 28 July, 2021, 06:45:36 am
This looks like a marvellous route. I hope I'm able to participate as I'm familiar with the western half of the route, living in North herts.  I can confirm both the choppiness of some of the hills and more importantly the beauty of the villages and surrounding countryside.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: jiberjaber on 28 July, 2021, 07:16:52 am
I rode the perm of this with Sister Carlos OTP in 2016 and it was a fine ride but at the time I felt it was a testing day in the saddle... looking back I see it had about the same climbing as most 200's in the region but it is a little corrugated 40k at the end

I am sure it will be a grand day out!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: Tomsk on 28 July, 2021, 07:19:09 am

Fantastic. You mention that it's always up or down, what are the gradients like?

J

Choppy indeed. I don't know the numbers, but steep enough to have riders cursing the organiser at the finish of the A&S 400. (Though reversed in this case - Burnt Dick Hill, is a fast descent but with a gravelly blind bend at the bottom!) The short ups in the Vale of Dedham and the climb up from Manuden are all rideable on 75" fixed (47 x 17) by this 63 year-old with a bit of tacking. Parsonage Hill up to Boxted is the worst this way round I think, as you turn sharp into it and don't keep any momentum. The steepest part is at the top, just before a blind bend, so tack with care!  The longer climbs in NW Essex/E Herts on the chalk are fairly gentle gradients.

Its a lovely route - ridden it many times as the permenent, but often starting from Saffron Walden as it's near home.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: Carlosfandango on 28 July, 2021, 07:51:39 am
It's a fine ride, one of my favourite 200's.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 28 July, 2021, 08:27:08 am
Choppy indeed. I don't know the numbers, but steep enough to have riders cursing the organiser at the finish of the A&S 400. (Though reversed in this case - Burnt Dick Hill, is a fast descent but with a gravelly blind bend at the bottom!) The short ups in the Vale of Dedham and the climb up from Manuden are all rideable on 75" fixed (47 x 17) by this 63 year-old with a bit of tacking. Parsonage Hill up to Boxted is the worst this way round I think, as you turn sharp into it and don't keep any momentum. The steepest part is at the top, just before a blind bend, so tack with care!  The longer climbs in NW Essex/E Herts on the chalk are fairly gentle gradients.

Further to Tomsk's reply, yes there's not much flat riding but nothing is that steep. And having just looked at the OS map I don't see any chevrons on the route.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: citoyen on 28 July, 2021, 08:45:45 am
This looks fun. *adds to calendar*
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: felstedrider on 28 July, 2021, 09:48:59 am
I could ECE but it would have me riding East/West all day.

Easter is late next year so not a bad time to fit a 200 in.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: psyclist on 28 July, 2021, 10:12:23 am
I could ECE, but that would push it up to a 400km.

If only one could start in the west.

I think the hill out from Manuden is the steepest on the route. It is not that long, and only the last bit is particularly steep ... but as Tomsk says, doable on fixed with a bit of tacking. The road is single track and very quiet, so using the whole road is usually not an issue.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 28 July, 2021, 10:16:57 am
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If only one could start in the west.
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Huggy is sorting out the perm
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: psyclist on 28 July, 2021, 11:13:25 am
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If only one could start in the west.
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Huggy is sorting out the perm

Perfect  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: Lightning Phil on 28 July, 2021, 01:04:02 pm
That’d make a good perm for me, starting Buntingford.  It’ll overlap the Stevenage Start of summertime lanes in places.  But plenty of different lanes as it swings down to (and up from) Manningtree. See it goes up via Wyddial . One of my favourite quiet lanes.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 28 July, 2021, 04:34:01 pm
This looks fun. *adds to calendar*
Cool, but don't expect quite the same TLC as you received on The Way to the Sea!

I could ECE but it would have me riding East/West all day.
Nice 300 for you :thumbsup: ;D


That’d make a good perm for me, starting Buntingford.  It’ll overlap the Stevenage Start of summertime lanes in places.  But plenty of different lanes as it swings down to (and up from) Manningtree. See it goes up via Wyddial . One of my favourite quiet lanes.
It is based on Herman Ramsey's Manningtree 200 perm, which has been handed over to Huggy. I'm not sure how the controls work on the perm because Manningtree > Saffron Walden > Buntingford > Lavenham > Manningtree is 192 km shortest distance. I got it to work as a calendar ride by adding in the Great Chishill checkpoint and also pulling the route down to Manuden (which wasn't on the original route), but neither would work as a perm control due to the lack of ATMs etc.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: huggy on 28 July, 2021, 04:43:14 pm
The Manningtree 200 perm track can be found in this ACME RwGPS events folder:
https://ridewithgps.com/events/139261-essex-perms

Route sheet available as a photocopy of Herman's original, electronic version of event entry/validation TBA.  I have a limited number of brevets for this perm in stock.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: Carlosfandango on 28 July, 2021, 05:22:11 pm
I've ridden the original perm a couple of times, once with jibberjaber and once or twice alone, it's a lovely local route for me.
ATM's are unreliable now, frequently no paper installed for a receipt, I waited for Manningtree Coop to open. Hermann's route sheet was very pub based, but unfortunately a significant number of those pubs are now private houses, this is a simple route, so that was OK. The 300 perm a bit more tricky. GPS the way to go.

Hermann was the most charming organiser I've had the pleasure to correspond with. He was very happy that people were still riding his routes.

Nostalgia might drag me out for this one again.

Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: GavinC on 28 July, 2021, 06:37:31 pm
The perm was my first 200 on a recumbent and will always be remembered as the day I discovered that sunburnt shins are a thing when riding laid back  :-[ Sadly, living at the western end of the route, a calendar version of the ride doesn’t work so well for me, but it’s a lovely ride nonetheless :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: arabella on 28 July, 2021, 06:39:34 pm
I'm failling to remember the 200 route I have which goes through Manningtree as a makeweight for what would otherwise be an out and back from Ipswich to Buntingford.  istr Thaxted appears, and Bures.  Similar ground though. 
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: citoyen on 29 July, 2021, 10:59:19 am
This looks fun. *adds to calendar*
Cool, but don't expect quite the same TLC as you received on The Way to the Sea!

A good route can compensate for a lack of mini scotch eggs!
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: farfetched on 29 July, 2021, 02:12:33 pm
I'd be interested in having a go at this, coming via the ferry from Hoek it might be possible to do it and get back for
the ferry home in the evening although that might be pushing it. I will keep an eye on it anyway. (usual covid provisos apply)
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 29 July, 2021, 02:34:15 pm
That's a great idea. The night ferry from Hoek van Holland docks at 06h30 and there's (currently) a train at 07h20 and 07h31 that will get you to Manningtree station with plenty of time to start the ride. Even completing the ride in 13½ hours would give you time to get back to Harwich to catch the night ferry home. Or stay somewhere for the Saturday night and catch the Sunday day ferry back to Hoek van Holland for a more leisurely post ride evening.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: psyclist on 29 July, 2021, 03:42:47 pm
If farfetched is who I think it is, then the 17km from Harwich would be completed by bike before those train times.

As for the return, the ferry is 23:00 or 23:30, so plenty of time to get back for that. When we've travelled in the reverse direction to do a DIY 200km, we get impacted by the later docking time in Hoek.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: farfetched on 29 July, 2021, 08:11:03 pm
Thanks for the info guys, now let's hope I haven't tempted fate and plunged us all into another lockdown next spring  ::-)

@psyclist - yes we met a few years back when you came over for a mini tour. Nijmegen if I remember correct.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: quixoticgeek on 29 July, 2021, 08:28:59 pm
If farfetched is who I think it is, then the 17km from Harwich would be completed by bike before those train times.

As for the return, the ferry is 23:00 or 23:30, so plenty of time to get back for that. When we've travelled in the reverse direction to do a DIY 200km, we get impacted by the later docking time in Hoek.

My plan is to get a hotel for the Saturday night, so I can have a nice roast dinner on the Sunday before coming back...

J
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: Mick6830 on 30 July, 2021, 04:05:41 pm
If this becomes a perm it’ll be my favourite go to perm as saffron walden is where’s I at at the moment👍
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 30 July, 2021, 04:45:29 pm
Contact Huggy as it already is a perm :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: Mick6830 on 30 July, 2021, 07:21:10 pm
Contact Huggy as it already is a perm :thumbsup:
excellent thank you 👍
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: drossall on 31 July, 2021, 06:14:36 pm
That’d make a good perm for me, starting Buntingford.  It’ll overlap the Stevenage Start of summertime lanes in places.  But plenty of different lanes as it swings down to (and up from) Manningtree. See it goes up via Wyddial . One of my favourite quiet lanes.
+1. I'm also a short distance from Buntingford, so travelling to Manningtree to start looks unlikely. But I'll put it on my list of perms.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 11 August, 2021, 11:20:43 pm
Tested the route today and it's great.  Lovely route, loads of beautiful villages and towns, quiet lanes linked by excellent sections of B roads. It is quite choppy. RideWithGPS says 2000 m of climbing for the actual event, and yet there isn't one particular climb I remember. Pretty warm today, tho who knows what the weather will be like in April.

There is a few updates to the routesheet, but there isn't anything I want to change about the actual route.

(https://i.ibb.co/Jpk98h0/IMG-20210811-192336.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kDctzdk)
(https://i.ibb.co/9NZJVHL/IMG-20210811-184340.jpg) (https://ibb.co/2yZws3Q)
(https://i.ibb.co/rdJwsqZ/IMG-20210811-135552.jpg) (https://ibb.co/FHtDVcB)
(https://i.ibb.co/8NZvRr6/IMG-20210811-114454.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cknfp6D)
(https://i.ibb.co/Vjq2JV8/IMG-20210811-110841.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ngLz6rS)

(https://i.ibb.co/J2TQntc/Screenshot-2021-08-12-08-53-36.png) (https://ibb.co/2PrNqhF)
This map shows the counties.
Blue = Essex
Pink = Suffolk
Cyan = Cambridgeshire
Orange = Hertfordshire
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 15 August, 2021, 07:14:39 pm
https://audax.uk/event-details?eventId=9257  :thumbsup:

Entries to open closer to the time.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 28 October, 2021, 10:26:35 pm
I'm in the process of adding a 100 km version thanks to a great suggest from bhoot, called "Essex and Suffolk Estuaries".

https://audax.uk/event-details?eventId=9534

This will be two ~50 km loops from Manningtree, with the first loop heading out through Essex to Harwich and back to Manningtree. The second loop will be 50 km around the Shotley Peninsula, with a stop at the Suffolk Food Hall (https://suffolkfoodhall.co.uk/).

I need to test out the routesheet, but everything is pretty much ready to go once I've ironed out any mistakes. As per the 200 km version I won't open entries until January.

(https://i.ibb.co/N2jmVzp/1.png) (https://ibb.co/23tsnBP)
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Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: Bolt on 28 October, 2021, 10:52:34 pm

(https://i.ibb.co/N2jmVzp/1.png) (https://ibb.co/23tsnBP)
 (https://da.imgbb.com/)

Looks great!  Can I ask what mapping tool this screenshot came from, I've seen it used before but have never been able to work out what it is?
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 28 October, 2021, 10:55:29 pm
https://www.gpxeditor.co.uk/map
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: Tomsk on 29 October, 2021, 12:27:00 pm
 :thumbsup: Looks good indeed! Two east coast peninsulas rarely visited by Randonneurkind - Shotley is especially off the beaten track. I'll be very tempted to ece, rather than tread more familiar ground on the 200.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: felstedrider on 29 October, 2021, 03:01:53 pm
Paul Fenton used to organise a lovely 200k that went in and out of the Suffolk Estuaries.   I remember it went to Shotley Gate and Felixtowe Ferry but not sure about the rest.   Must have been late 90s.

It's April so I may ECE the 200 but, as Tomsk says, an ECE of the 200 would at least take me further afield.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: peter simplex on 29 October, 2021, 05:47:38 pm
Paul Fenton used to organise a lovely 200k that went in and out of the Suffolk Estuaries.   I remember it went to Shotley Gate and Felixtowe Ferry but not sure about the rest.   Must have been late 90s.

Even earlier than that - 1991 -run  from Capel St Mary and officially organised by Colchester Rovers although Paul's initials are all over the Brevet card, with further controls at the wonderfully situated Ramsholt, Snape Maltings and Stonham Aspal.  On the day, the route turned out to be 20km short [!] so we had to do an out and back to Holbrook stores after "finishing".   
Actually the 100 would make a great 200 by reversing the loops, although it wouldn't quite work with info controls....
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: Suffolk Born on 29 October, 2021, 09:21:34 pm
Looks like one of my DIY's - well done that man, the Shotley Peninsular is much underrated, wouldn't bother with Food Hall, prefer Pin Mill, Butt & Oyster, also good, is the Post Office at Chelmodiston, good coffee, cakes,etc. Good Fish & Chips at Shotley Marina, excellent Café at Alton Water. The route from Shotley to Manningtree is quite stunning following the Stour, but if there is a strong SW wind it can be tough. Those of you who have done Shipping Lanes Perm will know the route.
Hope to see this in the calendar next year.

Regards
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: felstedrider on 30 October, 2021, 07:19:58 am
Paul Fenton used to organise a lovely 200k that went in and out of the Suffolk Estuaries.   I remember it went to Shotley Gate and Felixtowe Ferry but not sure about the rest.   Must have been late 90s.

Even earlier than that - 1991 -run  from Capel St Mary and officially organised by Colchester Rovers although Paul's initials are all over the Brevet card, with further controls at the wonderfully situated Ramsholt, Snape Maltings and Stonham Aspal.  On the day, the route turned out to be 20km short [!] so we had to do an out and back to Holbrook stores after "finishing".   
Actually the 100 would make a great 200 by reversing the loops, although it wouldn't quite work with info controls....

Yes.  Thinking about it I first did it when I was living in Norwich which was 91-94, so earlier than I thought.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 31 October, 2021, 10:21:26 am
Interesting to read about the Suffolk Estuaries 200, although starting that from Manningtree would mean having to get through Ipswich at least once. (If only there was a bike path across the Orwell Bridge!) Something like this could work: http://tiny.cc/c7xkuz

@Suffolk Born: Yes, Butt & Oyster is lovely but it wouldn't work as a control location for the distance (and I am not sure how the pub would manage with load of riders turning up either). However I will make mention of the pub, plus the other suggests, when I send out information to the riders and then people can stop where they like so long as they also get some brevidence from The Suffolk Food Hall as well  :thumbsup:

Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: felstedrider on 31 October, 2021, 12:11:33 pm
It’s a long time ago but I’m pretty sure we used to ride over the Orwell bridge on the Suffolk Estuaries.  There was an adjacent cycle path.  Has it been closed since ?
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 31 October, 2021, 12:35:20 pm
There's a narrow footpath that's covered in road debris.
(https://i.ibb.co/7Q6Ctv5/Screenshot-20211031-122845.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Mf3Skn4)


No idea what the approach is because I've never seen anything obvious. Perhaps these stairs?

(https://i.ibb.co/yVJ3zN8/Screenshot-20211031-123243.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6N5dKy4)



Having never fancied riding it myself I wouldn't want to plan a ride that sends riders over the bridge.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: peter simplex on 31 October, 2021, 07:21:32 pm

Having never fancied riding it myself I wouldn't want to plan a ride that sends riders over the bridge.

Me neither now. The distance from Shotley to Felixstowe was given as 38km - so maybe we did ride over the bridge on the main road - it was a  pre-commercial Sunday morning back then. And 30 years ago Felixstowe port was nothing like the size it is now and the junctions less intimidating. Perhaps Paul would remember. 
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: Lightning Phil on 31 October, 2021, 08:19:33 pm
There's a narrow footpath that's covered in road debris.
(https://i.ibb.co/7Q6Ctv5/Screenshot-20211031-122845.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Mf3Skn4)


No idea what the approach is because I've never seen anything obvious. Perhaps these stairs?

(https://i.ibb.co/yVJ3zN8/Screenshot-20211031-123243.jpg) (https://ibb.co/6N5dKy4)



Having never fancied riding it myself I wouldn't want to plan a ride that sends riders over the bridge.

Another example where they’ve significantly reduced the path width by putting a car crash barrier on it then added a white line on the carriageway so drivers know where edge of it is 🤦
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: bhoot on 31 October, 2021, 08:52:20 pm
It certainly doesn't look inviting to cycle, although it does form part of the Stour and Orwell long distance walk (with a longer option to go via Ipswich docks). I am sure the steps are the access route on the south side.

Talk of a Suffolk estuaries ride does make me think that maybe this new 100km shoudl be Essex and Suffolk Estuaries rather than Coasts (leaving the way open for a longer event visiting the seaside proper)
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 31 October, 2021, 09:02:32 pm
Easy enough to change the name to Essex and Suffolk Estuaries (or even peninsulas?)
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: felstedrider on 01 November, 2021, 08:48:13 am

Having never fancied riding it myself I wouldn't want to plan a ride that sends riders over the bridge.

Me neither now. The distance from Shotley to Felixstowe was given as 38km - so maybe we did ride over the bridge on the main road - it was a  pre-commercial Sunday morning back then. And 30 years ago Felixstowe port was nothing like the size it is now and the junctions less intimidating. Perhaps Paul would remember.

I'm doubting myself now, but the memory is pretty distinct and I did the ride at least twice.   It was 25 years ago, though.

I was talking to a potential client a few months ago who, it turned out, was a Colchester Rover and knew Paul.   I haven't seen Paul for years, though.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Coasts 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: Tomsk on 01 November, 2021, 09:47:44 am
Yes, the Orwell Bridge is a bit rubbish isn't it - no view unless you're in a high-ish vehicle and prone to closure if it's slightly breezy. But a proper cyclepath across it would be good.

I like the Butt and Oyster - recommended years ago by a friend whose father discovered it when he was stationed at HMS Ganges for a time during the war. But it's advisable to book - very popular now!
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: mmmmartin on 01 November, 2021, 10:54:27 pm
https://audax.uk/event-details?eventId=9257  :thumbsup:

Entries to open closer to the time.
Hmmmm. It's 100k from home to the start via the Tilbury passenger ferry.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 10 November, 2021, 08:26:20 am
Both versions are now on the calendar but I'll only open entries in January

100 km https://audax.uk/event-details?eventId=9534

200 km https://audax.uk/event-details?eventId=9257
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 12 November, 2021, 11:36:57 am
Discussion on the audax forum has made me wonder about offering up the "Essex & Suffolk Borders 200" with a Buntingford start on the same day as the Manningtree start.

For AUK purposes it would be a totally separate event that would be very x rated; two info controls (Manuden and Great Chishill windmill); collect receipts from Lavenham and Manningtree; postal finish from Buntingford. It would also involve an out and back section from Dedham to Manningtree and back. (That's also the case on the Manningtree start but it doesn't feel that way because it is at the start and end of the ride). The cut-off for BRM has been and gone so this would have to be BR ride.

It would be nice to have the Buntingford start going the opposite way round (so Buntingford > Great Chishill > Manningtree > Lavenham > Maunden > Buntingford) in order for both set of riders to be able to wave at each other (as per the Flatlands / Yorkshire Friends rides). However, that means I would not be able to just recycled the routesheet and so for my work load I'd be tempted to send both rides round in the same direction.

It would also require a rider to hand out brevet cards in Buntingford (as I'd be in Manningtree) and wait a few minutes for any later comers.

Do we think there'd be enough interest in this option?
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: drossall on 12 November, 2021, 01:40:04 pm
We'll I've got to look at any event starting from Buntingford, as it's quite close. Though the 200km sounds a stretch for me, and I'd pencilled in the 100km as a possible. So don't organise it specially for me, but I'll keep a watch on the thread and just maybe, if it comes off, decide that 200km without the travelling is the better option :thumbsup:

Thanks from me for considering it.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: psyclist on 12 November, 2021, 04:37:12 pm
I’ve been considering ECEing the 100, but a Buntingford start would be quite handy for the full experience, and about 245km for the day, so not too bad. If it happens, I’d most probably opt for the Buntingford start just to support it. If nobody else came forward, I could do the brevet card duty.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: felstedrider on 12 November, 2021, 05:33:27 pm
Can you offer a start somewhere in the middle as well ?   Asking for friend....... ;)
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 12 November, 2021, 05:34:30 pm
You can just get on & do it as a 300!
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: HowardK on 12 November, 2021, 05:58:31 pm
+1 for a Buntingford start, and can probably drum up interest from a further 2 or 3 riders for the 200.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: Bernster on 12 November, 2021, 08:34:46 pm
Another possible +1 for Buntingford (although real life quite often gets in the way of riding)
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: felstedrider on 12 November, 2021, 08:57:38 pm
You can just get on & do it as a 300!

You’re a hard taskmaster

*edit* actually there’s a chance we’ll be on holiday
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: peter simplex on 12 November, 2021, 11:42:56 pm
 Buntingford has been bang in the middle of a railway desert since 1964 so less appealing for the car-less who are not addicted to an extra 20 plus miles of to-ing and fro-ing.  Plenty of stations to choose from though on the desert periphery, trains arriving from assorted directions. 
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: drossall on 13 November, 2021, 04:57:24 pm
Quite appealing though for those who live a short distance west of Buntingford and would have to travel more than the length of the course, ride home again and back to the start, then travel the length of the course back again :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 13 November, 2021, 05:01:47 pm
Indeed, closest station to Buntingford is ~14 km away but this would be an addition optional. Remember the original ride is starting from Manningtree train station to allow public transport options :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: drossall on 15 November, 2021, 08:02:06 pm
It would be nice to have the Buntingford start going the opposite way round ... in order for both set of riders to be able to wave at each other (as per the Flatlands / Yorkshire Friends rides).
Should cross twice of course.

This is so obviously a brilliant idea, and yet so obviously too much work for one organiser, that I've been wondering whether some kind of collaborative effort is allowed. Is a full-scale check needed both ways (the distances will be the same)? Or is the focus on the route sheet? And could some of us at this end do this part and others the Manningtree bit?
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 15 November, 2021, 08:24:50 pm
Thinking about this and decide I'll get it set up. Plus I'll reverse the direction of the Buntingford start for people to wave.

Thanks for offer of help. I've already sorted, and checked, routesheet for the Manningtree start.

I'm in the process of writing the Buntingford start routesheet for it to go the other way round. I've already done half of it and won't be long to finish. I can base it on the original routesheet and also use things like A&S400.

I'll need a few winter 200s so can use one of those rides in order to check the Buntingford routesheet  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 16 November, 2021, 11:29:39 pm
Routesheet is now written up for "The Alternative E&SB" [Buntingford start] and it's registered with AUK so it should be appearing on the calendar once I've uploaded everything to the AUK site.


. If nobody else came forward, I could do the brevet card duty.
I'll be in touch :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: Tomsk on 17 November, 2021, 07:55:32 am
Routesheet is now written up for "The Alternative E&SB" [Buntingford start] and it's registered with AUK so it should be appearing on the calendar once I've uploaded everything to the AUK site.


. If nobody else came forward, I could do the brevet card duty.
I'll be in touch :thumbsup:

Excellent - I'll add it to my list of ACME events!
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: psyclist on 17 November, 2021, 08:31:04 am
. If nobody else came forward, I could do the brevet card duty.
I'll be in touch :thumbsup:

No problem. It’s on my calendar, let me know the details and we can arrange the brevet cards receipt nearer the time.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 17 November, 2021, 08:53:23 pm
And "The Alternate E&SB" [Buntingford start] is in the calendar :thumbsup:

https://audax.uk/event-details?eventId=9625
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: Lightning Phil on 17 November, 2021, 09:20:52 pm
You’ve got a typo in the starting from.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 07 January, 2022, 11:52:42 am
Entries are now open, tho I understand there's a bigger, and prestigious, ride for which entries are now also open!

If riding the 200 make sure you pick the correct ride. I won't be able to transfer people from the Manningtree start to the Buntingford start or visa versa. They are separate events that are simply happening on the same day.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 24 February, 2022, 02:52:08 pm
I did a route check of the Essex & Suffolk Estuaries 100 yesterday. (I'd originally planned to ride on Monday but changed my mind when Storm Franklin blew through!)

The ride out to Harwich is typical Essex scenery with big fields, big skies and rural villages. Navigation for ~20 km is easy as it's the same as NCN 51. The approach to Harwich via the beach huts and views of Felixstowe is great. It's then just a short hop to Shotley but much further going back to Manningtree in order to cross the River Stour.

There are a few km along the A137 from Manningtree that are a bit dull but after laving the main road it's a great ride over to Shotley, with views back across to Harwich and yet more views of Felixstowe. Then a good B road up to Suffolk Food Hall and an impressive view of the Orwell Bridge.

There's a kilometre or so on a concrete road after the Suffolk Food Hal then a bit of a grind along the A137. The official route is via Tattingstone to reduce the time on the A road. I think there's another concrete road I can use to further reduce time on the A road that I need to check out.

Manningtree Station Buffet are on board to help out 👍 That means people can just leave their brevet cards at the bar after the ride, and of course that also means there's beer available at the end of the ride. And at the start if you are the way inclined!

(I'll also leave stickers at the Station Buffet for everyone doing to Buntingford start and that'll avoid the faff of finding an ATM in Manningtree.)

I'm looking at checking the 200 km route on 19 or 20 March if anyone else fancies riding. Hopefully we won't be onto Storm Nigel by then!

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Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 15 March, 2022, 03:39:03 pm
Entries rolling in at the moment for all three rides, and pleasing to see the Alternative E&SB from Buntingford is being well supported. There's currently ~80 entered for the 200 and ~40 for the 100. Plenty of space for more people due to the low key nature of the rides. I'll be checking the 200 km route on Sunday and I will then send out information to everyone about the events.

Herman Ramsey will be helping out on the 100 km ride by stamping cards in Harwich and collecting completed 100 km cards back at Manningtree station, which is great as he's the inspiration for these rides.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: drossall on 15 March, 2022, 05:42:39 pm
 :thumbsup: How many for the Buntingford alternative? Hoping to make it, but I'm out all day the previous week on the Stevenage, so need to be reasonable...
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 15 March, 2022, 05:46:22 pm
Just over 30 at the mo.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: drossall on 15 March, 2022, 05:54:16 pm
Wow. Yes, that's a success :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 22 March, 2022, 09:46:34 am
Route checked on Sunday  :thumbsup: 99.9 % of the roads were in pretty decent condition, esp. considering it's mid March. The weather was fab.

Brevet cards have been ordered.

Emails have been sent out to the people on the Buntingford start.

Emails for the Manningtree 200 & 100 will be sent today or tomorrow.

Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: trundle on 22 March, 2022, 04:59:46 pm
Hurrah - I've put myself down for the Manningtree 200km. I very much like the idea of finishing with a beer overlooking the river Stour!

I've not ridden in this part of the countryside before - but very much looking forward to it: I imagine it is rural and pretty (lurks on Google street view...)
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: drossall on 01 April, 2022, 08:02:23 pm
I've had to scratch from the Buntingford start  :(

I've been down with a cough and cold over the last few days and, whilst I'm testing negative for Covid, it can't be a good idea to ride. Pretty disappointed - I was looking forward to the cheers (or jeers) of those going the other way around. I suppose there's always a permanent some time.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 01 April, 2022, 08:55:58 pm
Preparations are under way

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Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: felstedrider on 01 April, 2022, 10:06:16 pm
Not been on completely top form this week so have rested up for a couple of days.   Ditched the planned ECE as leaving at 6am in sub zero temps not really appealing.   I will also be on gears for the first time since last Autumn.

Looking forward to a decent day out.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: JellyLegs on 01 April, 2022, 10:23:29 pm
I am on the Buntingford start in the morning. It’s looking a bit chilly for the first hour or two but hopefully the roads won’t be too slippery.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: felstedrider on 02 April, 2022, 06:57:01 pm
Not been on completely top form this week so have rested up for a couple of days.   Ditched the planned ECE as leaving at 6am in sub zero temps not really appealing.   I will also be on gears for the first time since last Autumn.

Looking forward to a decent day out.

Soooo…..I was the bloke walking back to the start with his chain in his hand.   I think this is down to mechanical incompetence.   Still got the lawn mowed a day early.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: the straggler on 02 April, 2022, 09:04:11 pm
I found it difficult to resist this new local event and the day did not disappoint.

Rode out with Andy Terry to Harwich pier at a steady pace had a tasty burger and tea before heading back towards Manningtree with a favourable tailwind. Andy swings off home for lunch whilst I carry on towards Shotley marina, a new section of the route that I  have never ridden before. I found the undulating terrain a mirror image of the Harwich-Manningtree section.

At Shotley, I joined up with clubmates Andrew and Keith to the next control at Suffolk food hall. Met up Tomsk to lead us back on the final section to finish at the station. A welcome drink at the station buffet bar to end an enjoyable day out. The minimum 12.5kph speed was also a bonus - so no rush to spoil the ride. I think made the correct decision to choose this 100km over the 200km one.

I almost forgot, special thanks to Adam and his team for putting on this maiden event.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: JellyLegs on 02 April, 2022, 09:30:04 pm
I was right, it was perishing cold at the Buntingford start but the early hills soon got me warmed up and I maintained a cracking pace (for me) all the way to Manningtree.  Roads were dry and the scenery was enough to take the thoughts off the task in hand.  The Station Buffet staff were very accommodating given the fact they were packed out with Ipswich Town fans having a pre-match bevvy or two.  I stood out like a sore thumb in my cycling kit with no Blue and White in sight, a cup of tea not a pint.  The return leg, into a slowly setting sun was beautiful, showing off some very pretty Suffolk villages to the full.  I paid for the fast morning pace with the complete loss of my climbing legs and the winch was well used on even the slightest incline. A massive overdose of sugary treats in the bus stop at Lavenham helped restore a bit of form, some great route foresight (or luck) routed me between all the very threatening rain clouds.  Although the roads showed evidence of some very recent heavy rain, I remained totally dry and returned to Buntingford in exactly 10 hours, which I am very happy with. A very enjoyable and challenging day out.

Thanks to Adam for organising and Andrew for sorting the Buntingford start. 
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 02 April, 2022, 10:03:31 pm
Seems people had a good day which is great. More from me tomorrow. Right now I need food and then sleep. Oh and

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Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: drossall on 03 April, 2022, 11:47:57 am
I've had to scratch from the Buntingford start  :(

I've been down with a cough and cold over the last few days and, whilst I'm testing negative for Covid, it can't be a good idea to ride. Pretty disappointed - I was looking forward to the cheers (or jeers) of those going the other way around. I suppose there's always a permanent some time.
Tested positive this morning before going to church. Just as well I didn't ride then.

I will take vicarious enjoyment from your ride reports. JellyLegs had the ride I was hoping for by the sounds of it, albeit probably a bit faster.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 03 April, 2022, 06:11:55 pm
From my point of view that worked out really well.

I was getting quite worried in the days leading up to the event because it felt like I was getting a constant flurry of messages from people saying they wouldn't be riding because of:

a) weather - we were back to early spring, which meant 0°C at the start & single digit maximum
b) COVID
c) non-COVID illness / not yet COVID illness in drossall's case

However in the end a good turn out (numbers below).

The Essex and Suffolk Borders 200 riders were off from the station between 8am and 8:30am, with Felstead rider managing ~500 m before having to quit (see above), which was a really shame. Apart from him there were only a few other DNFs despite the biting wind.

The companion ride was The Essex and Suffolk Estuaries 100, which was two 50 km loops, one in Essex to Harwich & back and one in Suffolk to Shotley, with a big group of riders from Kent Velo Girls, which was great. Herman Ramsey, who set up the original 200 ride (plus Green & Yellow Fields 300 and Asparagus & Strawberries 400) was stamping cards in Harwich and afterwards at the finish in Manningtree, which was brilliant. Results for the 100 are here: http://www.aukweb.net/results/archive/2022/listevent/?Ride=22-311

After sending off the 100 km riders we headed out to Great Chishill Windmill in Cambridgeshire to run a checkpoint with a load of food for The Essex and Suffolk Borders 200. It would be possible to have this as an info, but makes it more of an event IMO and allows me to interact with the riders on the event rather than just sending people off and seeing them again 8+ hours later. The weather worked out well, with snow only starting as we were packing up. After closing we found one rider out of time having had two punctures, but some food and air from the track pump helped and he finished well within time.

After driving back to Manningtree Station Buffet we relieved Herman of his controller duties and waited for the 200 riders to finish. People arrived in a variety of states, but the warmth of the buffet bar and support of the staff helped no end. Final two riders arrived just after 9pm, tired but pleased.

There's a decent amount of climbing on the 200 due to the constant ups and downs, which surprised a lot of people. But despite that there were a number of people who were on their first audax and longest ever ride; well done all!! Provisional results are here http://www.aukweb.net/results/archive/2022/listevent/?Ride=22-257

psyclist had the brevet cards for the Buntingford 200 starters and they set off at 08h30. I briefly glimpsed some of these riders in Lavenham as I drove back from the Great Chishill Windmill checkpoint, but otherwise I didn't see these riders. As the organiser it's a bit odd knowing there are riders out who you never see, but from comments I've received the concept worked really well, esp as some of the Buntingford starters wouldn't have made the effort to start in Manningtree. Results will be updated once everyone has posted back their brevet cards (as it had to be a postal finish).

Manningtree 200  http://www.aukweb.net/results/archive/2022/listevent/?Ride=22-257
Entries = 68 entries
Starters = 35
Finishers = 31

Manningtree 100  http://www.aukweb.net/results/archive/2022/listevent/?Ride=22-311
Entries = 66 entries
Starters = 42
Finishers = 42

Buntingford 200: http://www.aukweb.net/results/archive/2022/listevent/?Ride=22-202
Entries = 37 entries
Starters = 25
Finishers = 19


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Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: Suffolk Born on 03 April, 2022, 07:40:01 pm
Top draw - cracking day out despite the cold, had a catch up, etc.

Thank you Adam and helpers for all your efforts.

Regards
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 27 April, 2022, 06:11:09 pm
Provisional results for the Alternative E&SB 200 have now been processed: http://www.aukweb.net/results/archive/2022/listevent/?Ride=22-202  Cards will be back with the riders once everything has been processed by AUK.

The brevet cards for the 100 km riders got posted last night and I'll try to get the Manningtree 200 brevet cards in the post tonight. 
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 09 June, 2022, 08:37:00 am
I can now offer up the perm version of the Essex & Suffolk Borders 200 having taken it over from Herman Ramsey. Details here: https://www.audax.uk/event-details?eventId=9935 Start from any location and ride in either direction.

(I've also taken over Herman's Ixworth File 100, which is an out & back from Manningtreee to Ixworth, Herman's Manningtree 100 which is an out & back to Finchingfield and Herman's Red Lodge Triangle 150 which goes from Manningtree to Sible Hedingham to Red Lodge to Lavenhem & back to Manningtree. All rides can be validated by paper, gpx or the e brevet app. Details are here: https://www.audax.uk/choose-a-ride/permanent-events/ )
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 27 August, 2022, 09:28:19 am
I've set the 2023 edition set for Saturday 1st April and the 200 will be a PBP qualifier.

I'm happy to also organise the Buntingford start but I'll need some help from someone to:

Job 1) Hand out brevet cards at the start. psyclist did this for me and also rode

Job 2) Collect brevet cards from riders and post cards back to me. Could be done as simply as leaving a collection box in a Buntingford pub for riders to deposit their cards and then collecting the cards at 10pm. Could potential be done by same person as Job 1.

(I want to avoid a postal finish as it's a faff waiting for riders to actually post back their brevet cards over Easter. And it's PBP year!)

I don't need a firm commitment at the moment but just an idea if I have some potential help 🙂
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: psyclist on 27 August, 2022, 10:10:19 am
I’d be happy to help with the Buntingford start, BUT I’m currently waiting the dates for a family holiday over Easter. I should know the dates soon.
Title: Re: Essex and Suffolk Borders / Estuaries 200 / 100 from Manningtree: 2/4/2022
Post by: αdαmsκι on 27 August, 2022, 10:12:13 am
Cheers psyclist.
Even if you're busy hopefully someone else will be able to help out :)