Then we hear a transcript of the pilot talking to Gander radio. She a had a fairly uneventful flight although ran in to some geese 200 miles back so shut down the "second left engine". Not on a 737 she didn't. It's only got two.What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the Gander, ect, ect.
Then we hear a transcript of the pilot talking to Gander radio. She a had a fairly uneventful flight although ran in to some geese 200 miles back so shut down the "second left engine". Not on a 737 she didn't. It's only got two.What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the Gander, ect, ect.
Pearl Harbor - to save time going through the assorted inaccuracies, let's just say that the whole film was an error. :demon:
Pearl Harbor - to save time going through the assorted inaccuracies, let's just say that the whole film was an error. :demon:
Same goes for Dante's Peak.
Volcano, which was also released in 1997, got more wrong IMHO.
This seems like a good place to mention Piggy's glasses.
A old one was in Hart to Hart ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0597299/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0597299/) this episode, I think). Jonathan Hart uses a red phone box which has the normal payphone for the time in it, one of these:- https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jetZVISLXes/UmkY6G6PZlI/AAAAAAAABFM/FILBMIObtBc/s1600/Payphone_11.jpg (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jetZVISLXes/UmkY6G6PZlI/AAAAAAAABFM/FILBMIObtBc/s1600/Payphone_11.jpg)
For those of you old enough to remember, to use those, the number was dialed, the connection was made and then money was inserted. The TV show had Jonathan Hart lift the receiver, insert money and then dial the number, which was physically impossible as a bar would prevent the coin going in the whole way.
Some American idiot had gone out of their way to modify a phone box to make it work like an American one and propagate disinformation for any tourists visiting the UK.
Probably they hadn't modified a payphone, just mocked up a British phone box with a Usanian phone inside. (I'm presuming it was shot in a Hollywood studio. If it was a British series, then it's just weird, and not in a good way.)A old one was in Hart to Hart ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0597299/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0597299/) this episode, I think). Jonathan Hart uses a red phone box which has the normal payphone for the time in it, one of these:- https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jetZVISLXes/UmkY6G6PZlI/AAAAAAAABFM/FILBMIObtBc/s1600/Payphone_11.jpg (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jetZVISLXes/UmkY6G6PZlI/AAAAAAAABFM/FILBMIObtBc/s1600/Payphone_11.jpg)
For those of you old enough to remember, to use those, the number was dialed, the connection was made and then money was inserted. The TV show had Jonathan Hart lift the receiver, insert money and then dial the number, which was physically impossible as a bar would prevent the coin going in the whole way.
Some American idiot had gone out of their way to modify a phone box to make it work like an American one and propagate disinformation for any tourists visiting the UK.
Ah, those were the new UK pay phones. The ones I remember had Button A on the front and Button B on the side. You put your 3d in then dialled, and when the other end answered you pressed Button A, your money fell into the box and your mike became live. If you didn't get an answer you pressed Button B instead and got your money back. Two things I remember as well: my mum grumbling when it went up to 4d, and going down a line of phone boxes pressing the Button B's in case anyone had forgotten to. 4d could get you a quarter of sweets.
IIRC, it was shot outside withProbably they hadn't modified a payphone, just mocked up a British phone box with a Usanian phone inside. (I'm presuming it was shot in a Hollywood studio. If it was a British series, then it's just weird, and not in a good way.)A old one was in Hart to Hart ( https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0597299/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0597299/) this episode, I think). Jonathan Hart uses a red phone box which has the normal payphone for the time in it, one of these:- https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jetZVISLXes/UmkY6G6PZlI/AAAAAAAABFM/FILBMIObtBc/s1600/Payphone_11.jpg (https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-jetZVISLXes/UmkY6G6PZlI/AAAAAAAABFM/FILBMIObtBc/s1600/Payphone_11.jpg)
For those of you old enough to remember, to use those, the number was dialed, the connection was made and then money was inserted. The TV show had Jonathan Hart lift the receiver, insert money and then dial the number, which was physically impossible as a bar would prevent the coin going in the whole way.
Some American idiot had gone out of their way to modify a phone box to make it work like an American one and propagate disinformation for any tourists visiting the UK.
Ah, those were the new UK pay phones. The ones I remember had Button A on the front and Button B on the side. You put your 3d in then dialled, and when the other end answered you pressed Button A, your money fell into the box and your mike became live. If you didn't get an answer you pressed Button B instead and got your money back. Two things I remember as well: my mum grumbling when it went up to 4d, and going down a line of phone boxes pressing the Button B's in case anyone had forgotten to. 4d could get you a quarter of sweets.
There's a difference I think between changing stuff to make the narrative work (for example putting the US Navy front and centre in the efforts to capture an Enigma machine) and plain Getting Stuff Wrong (using a 737-800 on a transatlantic flight where a 767 would be a correct choice).
I've not seen Volcano. Is it Bad Science to make the story work, plain Bad Science which if corrected would still have a working tale?
California is a geologically complex place with many centers of volcanic activity, but most of them aren't anywhere near the Los Angeles Basin. The closest volcanic rocks are millions of years old from long extinct volcanic activity, and the Los Angeles area has no volcanoes active or even recently extinct, with no volcanic activity anticipated in the foreseeable future of human presence.
And of course, the La Brea Tar Pits are in a deep sedimentary basin associated with a transform boundary, and for bonus points, they are tar pits. The LA basin is also full of oil wells. Petroleum deposits cannot form geologically in the presence of volcanic activity anywhere in the vicinity; you can't have oil, tar, and volcanoes in the same place, period.
This volcano erupts only two products - volcanic ash and fluid lava. Deadly gas makes only a brief appearance and never on the surface. In reality sulfur dioxide, which even minor eruptions emit in quantities measured in megatons, is a NFPA Level 3 toxin.
There's also the scene where they block and deal with the main lava flow, they also sprayed water into the volcano’s vent directly to pacify it. In reality, if you tried to cool down a volcano, then you would most likely make the eruption phreatic1 or phreatomagmatic2. Which considering that these types of eruptions are a crapton more dangerous than plain lava eruptions, you would pretty much be asking for Los Angeles to be leveled by pyroclastic base surges.3
Things that are dropped on or in a lava flow don't sink. Yes, the lava is red-hot and yes it will melt metal or consume other matter, but despite being liquid, it is still rock and just as dense as that word implies. Ironically, the scene where Roark blocks the lava with k-rails averts this, as its shown that the several foot deep river of lava has enough mass to slightly push back the concrete berms and the fire trucks keeping them in place. Which it would, since it's probably several dozen tons.
The volcano in question also forms itself impossibly quickly when lava does break through to the surface full force, growing to full size in literally a handful of scenes. While a volcano may be quick when it forms itself, it takes at least a few hours if not a few days for one to build up to the size shown so quickly. This one takes only 12-13 seconds.
Modification could be little more than a Mk 1 bit of gaffer tape to prevent the receiver depressing the hook switch. Start a call, 'hang up', film the scene as per the script, remove gaffer tape.Having tracked it down on Youtube, I've found that it was mainly done with sound effects, so no phone call required and the foley artist in California having never been to the UK.
There's a difference I think between changing stuff to make the narrative work (for example putting the US Navy front and centre in the efforts to capture an Enigma machine) and plain Getting Stuff Wrong (using a 737-800 on a transatlantic flight where a 767 would be a correct choice).
I've not seen Volcano. Is it Bad Science to make the story work, plain Bad Science which if corrected would still have a working tale?
Modification could be little more than a Mk 1 bit of gaffer tape to prevent the receiver depressing the hook switch. Start a call, 'hang up', film the scene as per the script, remove gaffer tape.Having tracked it down on Youtube, I've found that it was mainly done with sound effects, so no phone call required and the foley artist in California having never been to the UK.
And coconuts that neigh. Which as we all know is completely wrong if it's an African swallow.Modification could be little more than a Mk 1 bit of gaffer tape to prevent the receiver depressing the hook switch. Start a call, 'hang up', film the scene as per the script, remove gaffer tape.Having tracked it down on Youtube, I've found that it was mainly done with sound effects, so no phone call required and the foley artist in California having never been to the UK.
That makes a lot more sense. They're the people who give us dialtones when people hang up, the handbrake ratchet when people 'park' automatic transmissions, and that horse sound every time there's a horse.
The Cleaner - that was a tawny wol call and you showed a barn wol :demon:
The Cleaner - that was a tawny wol call and you showed a barn wol :demon:
Astrid: Murder in Paris - the same thing >:(
The Cleaner - that was a tawny wol call and you showed a barn wol :demon:
Astrid: Murder in Paris - the same thing >:(
But didn't you know that in televisionland *all* wols go twit-twoo?
For those of you old enough to remember, to use those, the number was dialed, the connection was made and then money was inserted. The TV show had Jonathan Hart lift the receiver, insert money and then dial the number, which was physically impossible as a bar would prevent the coin going in the whole way.Amusing, as in my memory of phone boxes (USAnian vs UKnish) the UK ones you paid up front (and had to keep mainlining coins every time you heard the beeps) and the US ones you couldn't put money in until you dialled the number - at which point you were told how many quarters to feed the machine.
Some American idiot had gone out of their way to modify a phone box to make it work like an American one and propagate disinformation for any tourists visiting the UK.
For those of you old enough to remember, to use those, the number was dialed, the connection was made and then money was inserted. The TV show had Jonathan Hart lift the receiver, insert money and then dial the number, which was physically impossible as a bar would prevent the coin going in the whole way.Amusing, as in my memory of phone boxes (USAnian vs UKnish) the UK ones you paid up front (and had to keep mainlining coins every time you heard the beeps) and the US ones you couldn't put money in until you dialled the number - at which point you were told how many quarters to feed the machine.
Some American idiot had gone out of their way to modify a phone box to make it work like an American one and propagate disinformation for any tourists visiting the UK.
So possibly less a "side of the pond" issue and more "not of its time".
I was listening to a short story on Radio 4 Extra at the weekend, written by Roald Dahl, called Someone Like You.
A brieft synopsis is the protagonist, a Not Very Nice Man, gets slighted by a Lady. To get his revenge he commissions a painting of the Lady by to a Top Painter. The protagonist is Very Rich and, we learn, a Top Picture Restorer.
The picture is duly delivered, depicting the Lady in a full length black dress. As he's a Top Picture Restorer he whips out some cotton wool and turpentine and starts dabbing at the black paint to reveal the Lady's undergarments. He then dabs some more to end up with a picture of the Lady in undergarments and showing her bow legs, which he then springs upon unsuspecting guests at a dinner party.
WTAF?
Now my knowledge of painting is restricted to mostly emulsion and non-drip gloss, but I'm pretty sure paintings don't work like that.
But would the painiting of a dress feature underwear and flesh benneath?I was listening to a short story on Radio 4 Extra at the weekend, written by Roald Dahl, called Someone Like You.
A brieft synopsis is the protagonist, a Not Very Nice Man, gets slighted by a Lady. To get his revenge he commissions a painting of the Lady by to a Top Painter. The protagonist is Very Rich and, we learn, a Top Picture Restorer.
The picture is duly delivered, depicting the Lady in a full length black dress. As he's a Top Picture Restorer he whips out some cotton wool and turpentine and starts dabbing at the black paint to reveal the Lady's undergarments. He then dabs some more to end up with a picture of the Lady in undergarments and showing her bow legs, which he then springs upon unsuspecting guests at a dinner party.
WTAF?
Now my knowledge of painting is restricted to mostly emulsion and non-drip gloss, but I'm pretty sure paintings don't work like that.
Actually, that is how painting restorers work.
However, it takes a very long time, a small patch is worked on at a time, delicately removing one paint layer, then washing the solvent off before moving on.
Eh?But it's not set in a fantasy universe, it's set in Real Life.
It's a Roald Dahl story.
You'll be telling me next that the BFG didn't exist and there was no giant peach.
But would the painiting of a dress feature underwear and flesh benneath?I was listening to a short story on Radio 4 Extra at the weekend, written by Roald Dahl, called Someone Like You.
A brieft synopsis is the protagonist, a Not Very Nice Man, gets slighted by a Lady. To get his revenge he commissions a painting of the Lady by to a Top Painter. The protagonist is Very Rich and, we learn, a Top Picture Restorer.
The picture is duly delivered, depicting the Lady in a full length black dress. As he's a Top Picture Restorer he whips out some cotton wool and turpentine and starts dabbing at the black paint to reveal the Lady's undergarments. He then dabs some more to end up with a picture of the Lady in undergarments and showing her bow legs, which he then springs upon unsuspecting guests at a dinner party.
WTAF?
Now my knowledge of painting is restricted to mostly emulsion and non-drip gloss, but I'm pretty sure paintings don't work like that.
Actually, that is how painting restorers work.
However, it takes a very long time, a small patch is worked on at a time, delicately removing one paint layer, then washing the solvent off before moving on.
But would the painiting of a dress feature underwear and flesh benneath?I was listening to a short story on Radio 4 Extra at the weekend, written by Roald Dahl, called Someone Like You.
A brieft synopsis is the protagonist, a Not Very Nice Man, gets slighted by a Lady. To get his revenge he commissions a painting of the Lady by to a Top Painter. The protagonist is Very Rich and, we learn, a Top Picture Restorer.
The picture is duly delivered, depicting the Lady in a full length black dress. As he's a Top Picture Restorer he whips out some cotton wool and turpentine and starts dabbing at the black paint to reveal the Lady's undergarments. He then dabs some more to end up with a picture of the Lady in undergarments and showing her bow legs, which he then springs upon unsuspecting guests at a dinner party.
WTAF?
Now my knowledge of painting is restricted to mostly emulsion and non-drip gloss, but I'm pretty sure paintings don't work like that.
Actually, that is how painting restorers work.
However, it takes a very long time, a small patch is worked on at a time, delicately removing one paint layer, then washing the solvent off before moving on.
That featured in on of the "Tales of the Unexpected" episodes, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0717437/ . The premise there was that this painter's unconventional method was to build up from painting a nude, then underclothes, then fully clothed. Something about how this gives a more natural looking painting. It looks like it's available on daily motion or archive.org, (S2E10).
Bah. Missed that important bit on account of not hearing the whole story. I take it all back.That featured in on of the "Tales of the Unexpected" episodes, https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0717437/ . The premise there was that this painter's unconventional method was to build up from painting a nude, then underclothes, then fully clothed. Something about how this gives a more natural looking painting. It looks like it's available on daily motion or archive.org, (S2E10).
Ah. An important plot point that either (a) I missed or (ii) they dropped from the radio version.
By the way, the story is "Nunc Dimitis" in the series "Someone Like You". Four episodes are still available on BBC Sounds, including the brilliant "Lamb to the Slaughter."
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That's a turdus migratorius (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_robin) :facepalm:
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"Snow white turtle doves" in a bloody tedious pop song in the seventies.
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Teddy Kumar: Did you know the Wright Brothers?
Indiana Jones: What?
Teddy Kumar: The Wright Brothers. Orville and Wilbur. They invented the airplane, and they lived in Indiana. Wilbur was born in Indiana.
Indiana Jones: I'm not from Indiana, Teddy. And the Wright Brothers were born during the Civil War.
Teddy Kumar: Oh, I thought maybe you went to school with them.
Helena Shaw: Oh, come on, Indy. That was funny.
...I will also offer the scene at the start of 'Atonement' where the main characters are overflown by a Lancaster bomber.Yebbut, there aren't that many Hampdens, Wellingtons or even Whitleys in flying condition (don't mention crap CGI, please) and as a piece of scene setting or era evocation for an audience more or less totally uninterested in old aeroplanes it does the job without being stupidly anachronistic.
...gliders that landed at Pegasus Bridge ... were instead launched, presumably by a very large number of elastic bands, from the cruiser HMS Halifax, lying six miles offshore.There's allowable deviation due to lack of the exact hardware, see above, and there's outright stupid.