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Title: Winter draws on!
Post by: FatBloke on 31 January, 2009, 03:45:26 pm
Brrrrr!! (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7862378.stm)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: toekneep on 31 January, 2009, 03:54:25 pm
Yippee, the Met Office are now giving us (Lancashire) a 60% chance of between 5 and 20cm of snow.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 31 January, 2009, 04:39:39 pm
My dad said he'd pop in tomorrow on his way to Aviemore - I don't know if he's planning on spending the night. I really hope, in the nicest possible way, he doesn't get stuck here.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: FatBloke on 01 February, 2009, 11:34:07 am
It's just started snowing quite heavily.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Regulator on 01 February, 2009, 11:35:13 am
It was snowing intermittently about an hour ago in Pimlico (a few flakes drifting gracefully about the place).  There is now clear blue sky and bright sunshine.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Ian H on 01 February, 2009, 11:38:32 am
I've got my winter drawers on.
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Post by: pdm on 01 February, 2009, 11:49:33 am
Its starting to dust down here in the Pennines too....
Biting 20mph easterly wind on the tops too - I am staying put today!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Regulator on 01 February, 2009, 12:08:58 pm
It's started to snow a little.  I'm tempted to go for a quick spin.  Anyone up for a ride in London?
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Aidan on 01 February, 2009, 12:11:18 pm
No snow here yet. I think "yet" is the operative word!

Lots of white stuff forecast for later
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: her_welshness on 01 February, 2009, 01:25:04 pm
Had a few flakes around in Hither Green a little while ago, but now bright blue skies!

The BBC weather page has changed Monday's prediction from 'light snow' to 'heavy snow'.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: pcolbeck on 01 February, 2009, 02:09:02 pm
Snowing like mad on the Yorkshire Wolds now. Big fat flakes and it's laying.
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Post by: bobajobrob on 01 February, 2009, 02:16:12 pm
Just started to snow in Gloucestershire, but only very slightly.
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Post by: diapsaon0 on 01 February, 2009, 02:17:42 pm
Cloudy, but still dry in Zummerzet  :-\

N
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Post by: Polar Bear on 01 February, 2009, 02:18:03 pm
Gentle flurries in Rugby for the last hour.
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Post by: Ian H on 01 February, 2009, 02:18:32 pm
A few flakes earlier in Ealing. Have we got time to prune the roses?
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Post by: Chris S on 01 February, 2009, 02:22:27 pm
Ah HA! A blizzard has just turned up, here in Norfolk. The world is now this: White.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: geoff on 01 February, 2009, 02:23:58 pm
Bright sunshine near Oxford...must be surrounded by snowy bits by now.

(I'm looking forward to getting the MTB out for tomorrow's trip to work!)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: rower40 on 01 February, 2009, 02:31:35 pm
Third flurry so far today in Derby.  This one's starting to settle.

Just as well I fettled the Windcheetah yesterday, ready for tomorrow's commute.  (Only 3.5 miles each way, but I'd rather have 3 wheels between me and snow.)

Central Heating On, steaming mug of soup inside me, Lord Of The Rings DVD playing, (Tolkein is Hobbit-forming!).  Now I have the insides of my eyelids to study.

G'night all.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: scottlington on 01 February, 2009, 02:33:41 pm
Leatherhead - one minute bright blue sky, next minute very dark, next minute bright blue sky, next minute very dark with very light snow flurry, ad endum....  will it make up its mind?
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Clare on 01 February, 2009, 03:01:27 pm
It's snowing - in Southsea  :o


No, hang on, it's stopped  :(.

Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: peliroja on 01 February, 2009, 04:33:30 pm
A heavy dusting just now in SW6... But it's now stopped! It's heavier at the front of the flat than the back.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: woollypigs on 01 February, 2009, 04:38:55 pm
yup 3 snow showers in the last 2 hours and they have just gone worse and worse. This looks like the first proper winter for me over here.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: ChrisO on 01 February, 2009, 05:35:15 pm
Winter seems to be over in Abu Dhabi. Definitely more heat in the sun the last few days.

Might not need the arm warmers tomorrow.

Which is nice.  8)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Valiant on 02 February, 2009, 01:43:53 am
3-4 inches of snow here, they've stopped all the buses and the roads are empty with what few cars that are left going walking pace. Was impossible to cycle back in due to the ice that kept forming in the SPDs, the roads were slippery but riding over virgin snow was perfectly fine with 23mm Pro Race2 tyres at 120psi.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: ChrisO on 02 February, 2009, 04:10:56 am
FFS, I'm watching BBC World News - the allegedly international channel.

They've just spent the first 8 minutes of the bulletin talking about the snow in the UK. Really world news isn't it.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Rig of Jarkness on 02 February, 2009, 06:40:39 am
 :) Yay !  At last, Edinburgh has some snow this winter !  (Not much mind)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 02 February, 2009, 07:10:10 am
It's white and fluffy and soft and cold and waiting for me.  :)

I still don't know which bike though, can't be the Sunday as it has a mudguard.  Fixie or MTB.  Hmmmm.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Julian on 02 February, 2009, 07:15:30 am
There is Proper Snow here, several inches deep.

I'm tempted to work from home today - the buses aren't running due to it being "too dangerous" which means I can only get in if I ride, and I'm not sure that's a great idea.  The thought of coming home in the dark tonight isn't appealing.  Or maybe I'm just being a big wuss.  :-\
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: mike on 02 February, 2009, 07:22:26 am
working from home FTW ;D

lots more sno forecast for this afternoon, if you get to work you might never get out - imagine being stuck there...
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: perpetual dan on 02 February, 2009, 07:39:48 am
Proper fluffy snow in Brighton. I would be working from home, but apparently I'm required to help build a snow gruffalo in the garden  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Basil on 02 February, 2009, 07:47:40 am

lots more sno forecast for this afternoon, if you get to work you might never get out - imagine being stuck there...

Ooh, I hadn't thought of that.  :(

Heck.  It's only 5 miles.  I can walk home if I have to.  I can't pass up this opportunity for some commuty fun.   ;D :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: GruB on 02 February, 2009, 07:49:42 am
That is what I reckon.  Fun fun fun.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wendy on 02 February, 2009, 07:51:18 am
15-20cm here in Biggin Hill!!!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Regulator on 02 February, 2009, 07:51:44 am
This what it looks like outside our back door:

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_SLNYLO15ERs/SYallS2JOwI/AAAAAAAAA6k/C1W1MBqyH6U/s800/P2020013.JPG)


(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_SLNYLO15ERs/SYalm455a4I/AAAAAAAAA6o/hfAbAkzP84I/s800/P2020014.JPG)

Mr R has left to try and get to Cambridge.... he may be some time.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 February, 2009, 07:55:57 am
We've had about an inch here, and the temperature is -1ish. Maidstone daughter & son-in-law's schools are closed. T'other daughter has to get to Holborn. Lpoo St & Central Lines are open.

It's amazing how the national rail website has ground to a halt because of the adverse weather conditions. There must be some virtual snow as well.

I don't suppose I'll have cause to get a bike out today. I'm hoping my school will be closed. It's a right pain to get out there in rotten conditions just for an hour and a half. It's also an after-school session so I'm sure, even if they open, they'll want the kids out a.s.a.p.

Edit: Reg, you've had roughly 5 times as much snow as we have, judging by those pictures.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Regulator on 02 February, 2009, 07:58:09 am

Edit: Reg, you've had roughly 5 times as much snow as we have, judging by those pictures.

We've had a good 6".  And guess what... they've known it was going to snow and they haven't bothered to grit the roads!!!  ::-)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: toekneep on 02 February, 2009, 08:00:13 am
Well we might not have had as much snow in the North West but we are not going to miss out. A lorry has shed it's load of fridges on the M6 motorway.  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Tourist Tony on 02 February, 2009, 08:01:41 am
Just ridden in to work, dug the mtb out of the shed; no problems.
Almost all the rest of the staff are off, trains being cancelled and motorway junctions closed.
Joy.
Wimps.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 02 February, 2009, 08:02:45 am
Well I am going to go out on foot or maybe on the MTB, will drop the pressure right down in the tyres and see what happens.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: little miss mac on 02 February, 2009, 08:03:43 am
There's more than a foot of snow on our garden table. Wondering a) how to get to work this morning for some severe deadlines (why oh why didn't I bring my work laptop home... this is possibly the first ever time in my life I have had this thought) and b) how to get to New York this evening.

Lots of travel websites down so I can't get a clear picture of what's going on.

Hahahahahahahaha.


PS. There is no way I am cycling in with or without a suitcase. You're all nuts.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 February, 2009, 08:04:39 am
Well I am going to go out on foot or maybe on the MTB, will drop the pressure right down in the tyres and see what happens.

Don't break anything!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Regulator on 02 February, 2009, 08:05:49 am
There's more than a foot of snow on our garden table. Wondering a) how to get to work this morning for some severe deadlines (why oh why didn't I bring my work laptop home... this is possibly the first ever time in my life I have had this thought) and b) how to get to New York this evening.

Lots of travel websites down so I can't get a clear picture of what's going on.

Hahahahahahahaha.


PS. There is no way I am cycling in with or without a suitcase. You're all nuts.

The Gatwick Express has been cancelled.  So has the Heathrow Express.  The Piccadilly line isn'r running properly either.

HTH!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: little miss mac on 02 February, 2009, 08:07:37 am
Looking better and better for zero travel today!! Thanks Reg!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 02 February, 2009, 08:08:55 am
Well I am going to go out on foot or maybe on the MTB, will drop the pressure right down in the tyres and see what happens.

Don't break anything!

Mr A said I shouldn't go on the bike as I will fall off and hurt myself.  Talk about being positive!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Julian on 02 February, 2009, 08:09:43 am
LMM - the Piccadilly line's okay to Heathrow - it's just suspended between Acton and Rayners Lane.  

The buses aren't running so I can't get to work via public transport.  Cycling is the only option - but there is a foot of snow outside and more predicted for the afternoon.  But if I work from home today, I absolutely have to get in tomorrow, and it may be worse then.  Hmmm.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Julian on 02 February, 2009, 08:10:10 am
Well I am going to go out on foot or maybe on the MTB, will drop the pressure right down in the tyres and see what happens.

Don't break anything!

Mr A said I shouldn't go on the bike as I will fall off and hurt myself.  Talk about being positive!

You might fall off, but snow's a very soft landing so you won't hurt yourself!  ;D
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 February, 2009, 08:11:39 am
I feel quite jealous. We've had little more than a dusting and everything seems to be working normally.*




* Except for the dog's bowels, which are making some very strange noises.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Regulator on 02 February, 2009, 08:11:47 am
Well I am going to go out on foot or maybe on the MTB, will drop the pressure right down in the tyres and see what happens.

Don't break anything!

Mr A said I shouldn't go on the bike as I will fall off and hurt myself.  Talk about being positive!

I agree.  

<Gives the Fixie Pixie a hard stiff look>
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 02 February, 2009, 08:12:27 am
Well I am going to go out on foot or maybe on the MTB, will drop the pressure right down in the tyres and see what happens.

Don't break anything!

Mr A said I shouldn't go on the bike as I will fall off and hurt myself.  Talk about being positive!

You might fall off, but snow's a very soft landing so you won't hurt yourself!  ;D

So, one Pixie, one MTB, one black dog at the ready.  Better get some clothes on first though.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 February, 2009, 08:13:54 am
Take the camera!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 February, 2009, 08:20:15 am
Younger daughter, off to her first day at Cancer Research UK, has had a voicemail to say that the induction has been cancelled. She'd just got on a train so will get off it again v. soon.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: bobb on 02 February, 2009, 08:21:13 am
There's about 5 inches here. I'm all excited! The cat was very confused this morning.

Hopefully the trains will be completely knackered so I can be really late for work  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: LEE on 02 February, 2009, 08:25:42 am
It's as deep in Mid-Hampshire as I can remember it (but that's still not very deep).

I need to go and get a photo of a certain fishing hut at some point as I'm trying to get photos of it in as many conditions as possible.  I think the bike may be out of the question.

Here it is (not today obviously), hopefully I should be able to get a stunning one today, would be a shame not to take the opportunity.

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Various/flyfishing.jpg?t=1233563025)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: alchemy on 02 February, 2009, 08:26:04 am
It's been 38 degrees today and was about the same over the weekend  :sick: :sick:. Some snow would be a very attractive diversion right now
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: GruB on 02 February, 2009, 08:26:22 am
The road is so slippery that I don't think I'll bother today.
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Post by: geraldc on 02 February, 2009, 08:27:38 am
Boss called to say don't bother coming to work. Woot!!! Snow day!!!!!

Me and the Yuba are going off-roading!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: TimO on 02 February, 2009, 08:44:34 am
I'm watching the emails come into work saying that people won't be into the Lab, mine included!  We've got a good foot or more of snow in Croydon.  I don't think the cats impressed, but he's gone back to bed.  The foxes track (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=128.msg264047#msg264047) from last night has disappeared under the snow, as has most of the garden.

I can't see any sensible way to get into work, since the Trams, Underground, and Buses all seem to be totally, or largely buggered.  The trains are probably also buggered, but as others have said, the websites relevant appear to be suffering.  I could take the mudguards of Sid the Singlespeed, and let the tyres down, but frankly I can't be arsed, just so that I can attempt a 12 mile cycle, with car drivers who probably shouldn't be out in these conditions.

So, three (four?) day weekend then!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Adrian on 02 February, 2009, 08:47:27 am
Outside the back door
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p148/AdrianC_No1/Misc/011.png)

I reckon that is getting on for a foot.

There are no trains running and the roads haven't been gritted at all.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Regulator on 02 February, 2009, 08:49:47 am
Mr R has banned me from going out onna bike...  :(

The drivers that are out on the roads are acting like dicks and he's decided that I can't risk doing my shoulder again (or worse).

So it looks as though I'll have to haul on my boots and go for a trek instead.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: border-rider on 02 February, 2009, 08:50:32 am
We've got about 2 mm in the yard and nothing much at all on the fields :(
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Adrian on 02 February, 2009, 08:53:02 am
Mr R has banned me from going out onna bike...  :(

The drivers that are out on the roads are acting lick dicks and he's decided that I can't risk doing my shoulder again (or worse).

So it looks as though I'll have to haul on my boots and go for a trek instead.

Freudian?
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Chris S on 02 February, 2009, 08:54:38 am
Thankfully, my commute up the stairs and along the landing went as well as can be expected  :thumbsup:.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Paul D on 02 February, 2009, 08:55:16 am
Loadsa fun doing 14.5 miles on/off road on the knobblies this morning. 1/2" of snow in Dorset is a special occasion not to be missed. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Regulator on 02 February, 2009, 08:55:26 am
Thankfully, my commute up the stairs and along the landing went as well as can be expected  :thumbsup:.

Did you have to put snow tires on the MTB?  ;)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Greenbank on 02 February, 2009, 08:57:04 am
About 9" here in SW London. No trains, no tube (the one near me is overground), no buses.

Unfortunately I brought my laptop home so I can work from home.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: red marley on 02 February, 2009, 08:58:48 am
Front garden in Hackney:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3430/3247104178_45618c1c6c.jpg?v=0)

The back garden birdfeedersnowometer:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3132/3247118590_7ee4925454.jpg?v=0)

The way out to the big bad world:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3468/3247098334_3fb9c28a89.jpg?v=0)



Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Ian H on 02 February, 2009, 09:14:07 am
I've just seen E off on the Piccadilly line. Service with delays they said. District completely stopped. Lots of people wandering about aimlessly. Daughter texted to say hardly any snow in E Devon, where I'm going in a while.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 02 February, 2009, 09:24:08 am
Been out with the dogs, took a few pics with the little camera.  Far too cold to be dragging the dSLR and tripod along.  Not many folks out though.  The black dog cut her foot and left a trail of red blobs all the way round.  The Goldies had huge clumps of ice between their toes, only the man complained, the woman just got on with it. 

Tis snowing again.  I will go out on the MTB later if I can warm my toes and fingers enough.

On a good note, I got to wear my new ski pants.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: geraldc on 02 February, 2009, 09:32:56 am
Roads were pretty deserted where I am, so I went out for a ride. Did a couple of laps of Finsbury Park to see what it was like. It was this: Fun

(http://www.pbase.com/gchong2426/image/108785978.jpg)
Decided to wear my comedy winter hat too
(http://www.pbase.com/gchong2426/image/108785979.jpg)

Forgot there were speed bumps on my road. Amazing what snow does to your memory...
Just realised I have a pair of wellies. I'm going out again!!!!

Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Basil on 02 February, 2009, 09:43:33 am
Well, that wasn't what I was expecting.  Once on the major roads they were all pretty clear.  We've not had anything like you guys are getting.
However it is now coming down heavily.  Home time might be different.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 February, 2009, 09:47:56 am
Anyone on here fancy flirting with hypothermia? I would if I knew who she was.

Quote from: BBC
The AA has warned motorists to ensure they keep warm clothes in their vehicles if they were planning to go out, or else risk "flirting with hypothermia".
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: alan on 02 February, 2009, 09:54:55 am
I shortened my commute this morning.Omitted the kitchen & went directly from the bedroom to the office.No snow en route. 8)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: toekneep on 02 February, 2009, 09:56:00 am
I shortened my commute this morning.Omitted the kitchen & went directly from the bedroom to the office.No snow en route. 8)

Is that some sort of diet?
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Valiant on 02 February, 2009, 09:58:58 am
Hmmm....

All

Circle lines
Hammersmith & City lines
Buses

In and out flights from Heathrow/Luton/London all suspended.

They've been saying it's gonna snow for a week yet no grit?
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: alan on 02 February, 2009, 09:59:57 am
I shortened my commute this morning.Omitted the kitchen & went directly from the bedroom to the office.No snow en route. 8)

Is that some sort of diet?

Yep.
It's to get into shape for JoGle.
Round is a shape ;D
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: bobb on 02 February, 2009, 10:00:41 am
Got bored standing at the station. It would seem whatever-they-call-themselves-this-week trains refused to accept that their services were b0rked. I iz getting day off  ;D

I could:

a. Get on with some work

b. Drink some beer

I'm leaning towards b at the moment  :P
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wascally Weasel on 02 February, 2009, 10:04:54 am
Got up at 5.45 to go and play in the snow in Richmond Park - apart from an early (and surly) dog walker we hardly saw anyone until about 7.30 - we got a good crack at sledging before anyone else, walked through some knee deep drifts and followed various animal tracks (squirrels were the funniest - shall I go up this tree?  Or this one? Or shall I jump around for a bit?  anything here?).

It was great walking through great expanses (for London anyway) of deep, pristine snow.  I've got a pair of German army-surplus fleece lined leather boots and they were fantastic for today's conditions.

I'm going to wait for the advertised heavy snowfall this afternoon then get out on my old Marin hardtail.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: little miss mac on 02 February, 2009, 10:11:48 am
They've been saying it's gonna snow for a week yet no grit?

I'm not sure grit would be able to deal with this. It's snowplough weather, and I guess there aren't that many of them about...
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: PaulR on 02 February, 2009, 10:13:29 am
I've just wobbled, skidded and stumbled in from Forest Hill to Holborn.  Very few roads had any visible tarmac to speak of.  A journey that usually takes 40 minutes took 1h40.  Now I've scored my loony points for cycling in, I might start thinking about heading home agin.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wascally Weasel on 02 February, 2009, 10:16:08 am
They've been saying it's gonna snow for a week yet no grit?

I'm not sure grit would be able to deal with this. It's snowplough weather, and I guess there aren't that many of them about...

Kingston Hill was gritted several times yesterday, the side roads a few times and all are fairly snowy - or at least were first thing.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Valiant on 02 February, 2009, 10:23:20 am
Fair point :) I've got my looney points for cycling back home at 1.30am when it was a mental blizzard. Glad I did though, if I'm not gonna cycle for a while, might aswell have made an event of it which I did.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: alan on 02 February, 2009, 10:28:43 am
Someone was prepared for this weather...
I just rang a client in Epsom & got a pre-recorded answer

Due to adverse weather conditions & a lack of public transport this is office is currently closed.Please ring again later.


So that's a dollop o' custom that will be missing from the Kings Arms in East St. at lunchtime.No lunch "meeting" today
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: TimO on 02 February, 2009, 10:36:55 am
The last time we had a heavy snowfall in London, I should have got Loony points for cycling in it, but didn't.  It started snowing in the evening, and I had to cycle home in it, but by the time I left there was no one left to comment upon it. ;) :-\

That was fun though, nearly empty dark roads, with a fresh thin layer of snow, on a Brompton.  It wasn't quite heavy or sticky enough to bung up the mudguards on that occasion.  I don't think today is Brompton weather, around here I'd hardly be able to see the wheels!

(I say dark, but with snow you never really seem to get dark, since any light that is about gets scattered everywhere, and it's spookily well lit).
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Valiant on 02 February, 2009, 10:40:17 am
If I took the trike out, would I have enough traction? Could be fun on the roads
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: TimO on 02 February, 2009, 10:50:15 am
I used to cycle my Trice in snow, great fun, although I never managed to get it to do a proper skid!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Notsototalnewbie on 02 February, 2009, 10:50:39 am
I'm not cycling in this, mostly because I don't trust the drivers that are about. And because everywhere else was closed, the world and his dog were trying to get on the Victoria line at Stockwell, so I gave it a miss.

Cam liked the snow a lot though  ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/bartonlaura/The%20Camster/SnowCam013.jpg)

Video of her running round like a nutter:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v395/bartonlaura/The%20Camster/?action=view&current=SnowCam020.flv
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Valiant on 02 February, 2009, 11:18:50 am
I think it's time to take Fred out for a spin and rescue people in their cars lol. Before I do so, what are the chances of us being stuck? 12tonnes on 6 BIG tractor wheels with 6WD and 4WS?
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Charlotte on 02 February, 2009, 11:30:04 am
I think it's time to take Fred out for a spin and rescue people in their cars lol. Before I do so, what are the chances of us being stuck? 12tonnes on 6 BIG tractor wheels with 6WD and 4WS?

Minimal, Sam.  Minimal  ::-)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Valiant on 02 February, 2009, 11:46:24 am
Yay, had to ask to save us embarrasment just incase lol
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Tewdric on 02 February, 2009, 12:06:22 pm
We've got about 2 mm in the yard and nothing much at all on the fields :(

Starting to come down now though- there may be scope for mountain bike snowy woodland funtime yet....
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Valiant on 02 February, 2009, 12:14:09 pm
(http://photos-f.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v2075/83/14/627185559/n627185559_2484101_9666.jpg)

Police using riot shields to sled! Last night on Primrose Hill!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Regulator on 02 February, 2009, 12:20:11 pm
Well, I went for a wander (no buses running) into town.  Very few cars on the road, a few black cabs (driving like twunts as per normal) and quite a few cyclists :thumbsup:  I found that a pair of unpadded thermal bib-longs under my trousers meant my legs were nice and warm.

Many of the shops are shut as staff haven't been able to get in.  Still no sign of any gritting going on - if they don't grit soon there'll be carnage tomorrow, as what is already here freezes overnight and is overlaid with fresh snow.

A few pics...

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_SLNYLO15ERs/SYbiNIKieNI/AAAAAAAAA8A/8DxiZjUv8l4/s800/DSCF0232.JPG)

(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_SLNYLO15ERs/SYbiTt-bYuI/AAAAAAAAA80/3mSG8PQxbwE/s800/DSCF0239.JPG)

Snowpersons were popping up everywhere  ;D :thumbsup:


(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_SLNYLO15ERs/SYbiN_sCWoI/AAAAAAAAA8I/WXv-ttIVRwg/s800/DSCF0233.JPG)

Poor wee soldier boy!  Come to Dirty Uncle Greg - he'll warm you up...


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(http://lh4.ggpht.com/_SLNYLO15ERs/SYbiP3g-cxI/AAAAAAAAA8Y/LM9Dhr-kP1A/s800/DSCF0235.JPG)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_SLNYLO15ERs/SYbiRP6yj2I/AAAAAAAAA8g/QhpDXxr6Vbg/s800/DSCF0237.JPG)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_SLNYLO15ERs/SYbiSi3aDRI/AAAAAAAAA8o/4yT4_Dsw0qc/s800/DSCF0238.JPG)

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SLNYLO15ERs/SYbiWAYzJEI/AAAAAAAAA88/oLQi9ZLKCp0/s800/DSCF0240.JPG)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_SLNYLO15ERs/SYbiXdqbfnI/AAAAAAAAA9E/sfnBNdB8PD8/s800/DSCF0242.JPG)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_SLNYLO15ERs/SYbiYVbRsHI/AAAAAAAAA9M/VCD9YetvieM/s800/DSCF0243.JPG)

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/_SLNYLO15ERs/SYbiZZ4yRsI/AAAAAAAAA9U/TX1eaOqvviQ/s800/DSCF0245.JPG)

(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_SLNYLO15ERs/SYbiaqG8jGI/AAAAAAAAA9c/qkzmuHTGm84/s800/DSCF0247.JPG)

Free Tibet protestors outside Downing Street.  To their left was the Chinese Government enforced encouraged greeting party...


(http://lh5.ggpht.com/_SLNYLO15ERs/SYbib-vfVPI/AAAAAAAAA9k/5bSGLJkXZ28/s800/DSCF0248.JPG)

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/_SLNYLO15ERs/SYbic9g5xXI/AAAAAAAAA9s/Sp0aUR_8x-Q/s800/DSCF0249.JPG)

Without the usual 'hot air' inside, snow settles on the roof of Parliament.  ;)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 02 February, 2009, 12:22:18 pm
They are lovely pics Greg.  Wish I was there, we could grab a coffee and feed our faces.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Valiant on 02 February, 2009, 12:25:15 pm
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3481/3246610645_91f3d8d098.jpg)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: nuttycyclist on 02 February, 2009, 12:38:39 pm
... Still no sign of any gritting going on - if they don't grit soon there'll be carnage tomorrow, as what is already here freezes overnight and is overlaid with fresh snow.
...

a) your photos showed lots of gritted roads.
b) even if they do grit, it'll freeze over tonight unless there is constant traffic to mix the grit and snow around.  Gritting does not magic the snow away.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Regulator on 02 February, 2009, 12:43:22 pm
... Still no sign of any gritting going on - if they don't grit soon there'll be carnage tomorrow, as what is already here freezes overnight and is overlaid with fresh snow.
...

a) your photos showed lots of gritted roads.
b) even if they do grit, it'll freeze over tonight unless there is constant traffic to mix the grit and snow around.  Gritting does not magic the snow away.


None of the roads have been gritted.  A few of the more major roads are passable (just about) but they are covered in a thick layer of slush that will freeze solid tonight.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: nuttycyclist on 02 February, 2009, 01:09:20 pm
Where did the slush come from?

In your photos it is on the roads, not the pavements etc.  That's the effect of car tyres grinding in the grit.


On an ungritted road the snow gets packed down to hard white ice (I'm probably going to have to walk the last uphill to my house tonight as it will be in that state).  On a gritted road it turns to slush such as in your photos.

The only way to get rid of that slush is to increase traffic volumes going over it to finish melting it.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Greenbank on 02 February, 2009, 01:18:27 pm
On an ungritted road, given enough traffic, the hard packed down snow eventually melts turning to slush. Tyres run quite warm, as do exhaust gases and the undertrays of cars. But, if you don't have enough traffic, then it'll refreeze and stay solid.

Gritting does not magic the snow away.

And it's not really "grit", it's mainly salt, most commonly calcium chloride as it reacts with water to generate heat melting more of the snow/ice. It also helps lower the melting point of ice. Normal salt (Sodium Chloride) does lower the freezing/melting point but it doesn't release any heat on contact with water.

P.S. Snowing more heavily again in SW15. About 9" of snow so far and it looks like it will be over 12" deep by the evening commute. :)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 02 February, 2009, 01:24:48 pm
Only a couple of short flurries here, and nowt lying. Boring!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Zipperhead on 02 February, 2009, 01:33:53 pm
I feel quite jealous. We've had little more than a dusting and everything seems to be working normally.*

* Except for the dog's bowels, which are making some very strange noises.

Perhaps the two are connected? Perhaps doggie has eaten all the snow roundabout and the strange noises are the prequel to the canine version of two dogs one cup?

I had fun cycling in on the trike this morning - two wheel drive gives plenty of grip even uphill, one wheel braking is a little scary downhill. Powerslides round icy corners.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: GruB on 02 February, 2009, 01:42:30 pm
Untreated roads.

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e81/GruuB/P1020576.jpg)

Canalside fun.

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e81/GruuB/P1020589.jpg)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: bobajobrob on 02 February, 2009, 02:12:29 pm
This pic is from a CCTV camera in Nottingham ;D

http://regmedia.co.uk/2009/02/02/notts_cctv.jpg (http://regmedia.co.uk/2009/02/02/notts_cctv.jpg)

(NSFW image)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 02 February, 2009, 02:50:57 pm
Er, Bob, NSFW!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Ian H on 02 February, 2009, 02:57:28 pm
The main roads out of town were gritted. The M3 was open - two and a half lanes. Down here it's green fields and sunshine, but bloody cold.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Thing2 on 02 February, 2009, 03:16:56 pm
We've been sent home for the day (or more accurately, told we may go home). I got many loony points for cycling  :thumbsup: Most of my colleagues that made it in walked. Tis snowy in SW London. I will probably get the walking boots and gaitors out and walk tomorrow if it freezes overnight, as there is an awful lot of slush and ice still around at the moment.

Emma
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Polar Bear on 02 February, 2009, 03:23:39 pm
Tell you what.  If this carries on, and it's getting heavier and deeper here finally, I'll be cracking out the Marin and running the tyres at 30 tomorrow.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wascally Weasel on 02 February, 2009, 03:31:28 pm
I'm just off to do that now - little ride to the park and see how far I get round the Tamsin trail.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Chris S on 02 February, 2009, 03:36:36 pm
Turning to rain in Norfolk now. I predict a sleety 'orrible slush-fest over the next few hours  :sick:.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Adrian on 02 February, 2009, 04:34:27 pm
There is a group of teenagers reclaiming our road by building a speed ramp out of snow. I do hope that it doesn't end in tears.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Notsototalnewbie on 02 February, 2009, 04:56:33 pm
Snowing heavily now. Cam and I went for a walk in the park; the residents of Stockwell are nothing if not imaginative  ;D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/bartonlaura/43400001.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/bartonlaura/43400002.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v395/bartonlaura/43400003.jpg)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Basil on 02 February, 2009, 05:10:48 pm
I bottled it tonight.  There's no way for me to get home without climbing one of several minor road hills into my area.  The snow has been falling heavily for the past few hours abd seems set to continue.  The bike is safe in the office,  I came home on the train.

Correct decison.  As I came out of the station, I watched several cars making a mess of the hill - sliding sideways into the curb as they wheel span their way up.

It wasn't the snow that scared me off -  It was the expected naff snow driving skills of the motons.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Regulator on 02 February, 2009, 05:14:15 pm
I bottled it tonight.  There's no way for me to get home without climbing one of several minor road hills into my area.  The snow has been falling heavily for the past few hours abd seems set to continue.  The bike is safe in the office,  I came home on the train.

Correct decison.  As I came out of the station, I watched several cars making a mess of the hill - sliding sideways into the curb as they wheel span their way up.

It wasn't the snow that scared me off -  It was the expected naff snow driving skills of the motons.


That's what put me off.  I'm quite tempted to go out later tonight, when the roads are empty and we've had some fresh snow...
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 02 February, 2009, 05:38:27 pm
It stopped snowing half an hour ago and is now raining :(
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Rig of Jarkness on 02 February, 2009, 05:42:43 pm
 :) About an inch with us now, off road it's still nice and crunchy and most satisfying to ride on.  I'm hoping it doesn't freeze though !
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: nutkin on 02 February, 2009, 05:43:57 pm
It stopped snowing half an hour ago and is now raining :(

Oh no!

Still snowing here...
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: GruB on 02 February, 2009, 05:48:58 pm
Still snowing here in Wiltshire.  The boys and I went out on our MTBs along the canal and up the hill with a sled.  We then enjoyed a couple of hours sledding and have now just got home.  As it got dark it got very cold again.  Out of the wind it wasn't half bad.

Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Regulator on 02 February, 2009, 05:57:15 pm
Anyone up for a pootle tonight? (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=14712.0)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: nuttycyclist on 02 February, 2009, 06:43:48 pm
Snowing heavily now. Cam and I went for a walk in the park; the residents of Stockwell are nothing if not imaginative  ;D

<photos>


In Southend I saw a 4x4 coming towards me with a snowman sitting on the bonnet.  Between its legs it had a giant erection.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: geraldc on 02 February, 2009, 06:45:54 pm
I've had one of the best days ever!

Call from work telling me not to go in. Went out for a pootle on my Yuba, enjoyed it so much that I decided to N+1 and get the MTB that I'd been eyeing up for a while. Head out to Decathlon, get the bike. Then spend the rest of the day riding around London in the snow like a child with the biggest grin ever on my face.

My N+1 Rockrider 9.1
(http://www.pbase.com/gchong2426/image/108798428/large.jpg)

Was riding around with my wellies on and a woolly hat, just finding snowy slopes in the park to ride the bike up and ride and down.

(http://www.pbase.com/gchong2426/image/108798432.jpg)

Having to exercise a one in one out system now, anyone want to buy a pre-loved Brompton L6?  ;D



Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: nuttycyclist on 02 February, 2009, 06:52:54 pm
Where did the slush come from?

In your photos it is on the roads, not the pavements etc.  That's the effect of car tyres grinding in the grit.


On an ungritted road the snow gets packed down to hard white ice (I'm probably going to have to walk the last uphill to my house tonight as it will be in that state).  On a gritted road it turns to slush such as in your photos.

The only way to get rid of that slush is to increase traffic volumes going over it to finish melting it.

On an ungritted road, given enough traffic, the hard packed down snow eventually melts turning to slush. Tyres run quite warm, as do exhaust gases and the undertrays of cars. But, if you don't have enough traffic, then it'll refreeze and stay solid.
...

I didn't reply earlier as I wanted to check my facts.


As predicted, the whole way home (on roads that would be gritted as they're main ones) was riding on roads that looked like regulator's photos.  Black shitty slush.

As soon as I finished and turned to go home on the final back roads it was slippery white stuff.

My road itself is pristine white ice.  Where wheel spinning cars have dug through I can see it's about an inch thick.  This is a very busy rat run, a lot of the traffic would have been on 70 and 50mph dual carriageways immediately before entering the road.  Tyres, exhaust, etc would be pretty hot.

I'd put money on those London roads that the photos are of are gritted.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Regulator on 02 February, 2009, 06:54:17 pm

I'd put money on those London roads that the photos are of are gritted.

Having walked them, nutty, I can assure you they're not gritted.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on 02 February, 2009, 06:54:44 pm
I'd put money on those London roads that the photos are of are gritted

I think a lot of roads in London have residual salt from previous gritting sorties that could be playing a part.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 02 February, 2009, 07:16:06 pm
JC wants me to go back to the field to take a pic of the dinosaur he was making with his dad.  He is worried that by tomorrow it will have melted.  I am in my best jim jams, I am exhausted and I really don't want to go, it will be so very dark.  I do however have my new Exposure light so could in theory nip up to the field but.....
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Jurek on 02 February, 2009, 07:23:46 pm

I'd put money on those London roads that the photos are of are gritted.

Having walked them, nutty, I can assure you they're not gritted.


Ummm...

As Little Miss Mac suggested in a thread elsewhere....
once the snow has reached a certain depth, it's a job for a plough rather than salt or grit....
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: αdαmsκι on 02 February, 2009, 07:36:36 pm
It's feels cold where we are in The Netherlands, but that's due to the wind rather than the actually air temperature & in fact it was colder in January.  However, then the cold was coupled with blue skies, sun & no wind & so it seemed warmer.  Oh, & there's no snow here  :-[.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Valiant on 02 February, 2009, 07:59:25 pm
None of the roads are griited near me yet they are black mush on the roads
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 02 February, 2009, 08:11:31 pm
There's a lot of dripping going on outside.

2°C and rising...
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: nuttycyclist on 02 February, 2009, 08:32:00 pm

I'd put money on those London roads that the photos are of are gritted.

Having walked them, nutty, I can assure you they're not gritted.


Ummm...

As Little Miss Mac suggested in a thread elsewhere....
once the snow has reached a certain depth, it's a job for a plough rather than salt or grit....

Indeed.

Snow ploughs are the only way on deep snow.

but snow + grit + traffic = black slush
snow + grit + lots of traffic = wetness and slush slowly vanishing
snow + traffic = white ice.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Valiant on 02 February, 2009, 08:36:05 pm
Snow + crap on road + traffic = dirty blackish slush
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Greenbank on 02 February, 2009, 10:10:35 pm
snow + traffic = white ice.

Your anecdotal evidence doesn't fit with my anecdotal evidence. There are plenty of ungritted roads around here where the busy sections have melted to black slush, some even almost clear, and some sections have refrozen again to white ice.

It'd be quite possible that your rat run road was just too thick a layer for the traffic to melt it. I'm sure there's a tipping point below which the traffic will make the conditions better, causing free-flowing traffic to move faster and the road to become even clearer. Past the tipping point it just remains a frozen white lump.

The road opposite me hasn't been gritted and has clear tyre tracks on each side of the road, but that's starting to freeze over again. The entrance to the cul-de-sac opposite is relatively clear but the further up the cul-de-sac you go the more frozen over it is as fewer cars have been up/down it.

"Grit" is salt which temporarily melts a certain amount of snow. Once it's melted you rely on free flowing traffic to clear off the slush/water and melt any further snow fall. If you then keep it gritted you keep the salinity of the standing water high enough that it lowers the freezing point of the water below the ambient temperature. If you don't grit it then it freezes and the icy roads stop people driving on them.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Chris S on 02 February, 2009, 10:18:30 pm
It's all about the melting point of ice isn't it?

Salt works by lowering the melting point such that the ice will melt, even when its temperature is <0c. The amount of grit they apply (supposedly) determines the temperatures at which the application will be effective.

Cars driving over snow melt the snow by a different mechanism. The weight of the car applies pressure to the ice - increased pressure lowers the melting point and it melts. Do it enough times and the snow turns to slush. A continuous stream of cars with hot engines and exhausts adds to the effect.

There's a skool science experiment I remember - where you hang a couple of weights either end of a cheesewire across a block of ice. The weights apply pressure to the ice through the wire, and it gradually (without intervention) cuts through the ice.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: nutkin on 02 February, 2009, 10:28:14 pm

There's a skool science experiment I remember - where you hang a couple of weights either end of a cheesewire across a block of ice. The weights apply pressure to the ice through the wire, and it gradually (without intervention) cuts through the ice.

And the ice re-freezes above the wire as it passes through, 'cos its no longer under pressure...
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Greenbank on 02 February, 2009, 10:31:07 pm
Calcium Chloride (commonly used as road grit) also releases heat when it reacts with water. Normal salt (Sodium Chloride) doesn't do this.

The third way it can help is that the salt (or any sand if they use it) increases the friction and therefore any cars moving along the road will generate more heat than normal.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Adrian on 02 February, 2009, 11:25:06 pm
The gritter lorry has just driven down the road.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: clarion on 03 February, 2009, 11:14:10 am
Red Routes seem to be gritted a lot more intensively than local authority roads.

Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: border-rider on 03 February, 2009, 11:16:13 am
Well, it didn't snow much yesterday but my word it did overnight.  And it's just started again in earnest.  Seriously heavy stuff.  I hope Mrs MV gets back from work OK.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Greenbank on 03 February, 2009, 11:21:48 am
I'm on the lookout for some Schwalbe Marathon Winter (studded) tyres in 700c x 35mm.
 
Give that I use the hackbike so infrequently I may as well [sic] winterise it...
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 05 February, 2009, 10:05:17 am
It rained last night, the temperature is now 5°C and I'm hoping we've seen the last of the white stuff until 2010.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: rogerzilla on 05 February, 2009, 10:08:17 am
Well, we've just had the most snow for 22 years  ;D
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Mrs Pingu on 05 February, 2009, 10:11:04 am
Started snowing about 8am here and has thrown it down constantly since. Town doesn't seem too bad but here in the suburban ind. estates of Bridge of Doom the roads are rammed. One of ours guys made it in no problem from the country areas only to get stuck in traffic for an 1.5hrs about a mile away from work.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Ian H on 06 February, 2009, 08:44:26 am
It snowed last night, so of course the power went off - for four hours. The phone line from the pole outside is hanging heavy with ice.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 06 February, 2009, 08:54:33 am
It is snowing very heavily here in Suffolk.  Proper big chunky flakes.  JC has gone to school, just hope he can get home again.

I won't be going anywhere.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Chris S on 06 February, 2009, 08:58:43 am
Raining here in Norfolk, just as it has all week.

And now I have a free weekend (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=14867.0) to kill...
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Ian H on 06 February, 2009, 08:59:31 am
I'm planning to get to London later.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Charlotte on 06 February, 2009, 09:05:48 am
Sleet in NW Londonton.

The traffic was very heavy - almost certainly due to accidents and general idiocy.  The interesting thing is that although it's not that cold, the slush on the roads isn't going away.  I'm suspecting this is because there's no salt left and the salt that was put down got washed away in the week.

If it does start to freeze up again, it's going to get... interesting  :-\
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 06 February, 2009, 09:10:57 am
No rain in Saarfend, nor wind. Just dull. Min Temp 0°C, max 7°C.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: LEE on 06 February, 2009, 09:16:20 am
It is the most disgusting sleet here in Andover, just enough snow that we are getting a deep build-up of slush, luvverly.

I picked a perfect week to get a cold becasue I wouldn't be going out anyway
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: rafletcher on 06 February, 2009, 10:38:10 am
Well today I gave it best, and turned around after 2 miles of sliding all over the shop on wet snow that turned to icy slush as soon as it was driven on. Took me an hour for the round trip. Thank goodness for VPN so I can get some work done!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Ian H on 06 February, 2009, 04:41:26 pm
I went for a ride; the power went off just before I set off, and was still off when I got back. So I packed my bags and headed for London. In a couple of places it was only the continuous efforts of snow-ploughs that kept the A303 open. Much of it was one lane only, with slush down the middle. A few trees down. A couple of large bushes of ivy across the road had been torn from their hosts by the weight of snow on their leaves. An interesting journey.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: jane on 06 February, 2009, 07:02:02 pm
This was definitely the worst ride in of the week.  Having really enjoyed my rides in up till today, I made the mistake of thinking I didn't need the Roughstuff any more as the roads seemed clear of ice and snow on the way home last night. Put it away and just hopped on the singlespeed, forgetting the important fact that I removed the mudguards when I removed the gears etc.  Got hit by heavy, wet, sleety stuff a few minutes into my commute, adding to the remnants of the weeks ice and snow- got to work with a wet, dirty and very cold backside and feet (having left the sealskinz in the wash).  Hmmph!  Luckily I had packed clean underwear as well as normal work clothes (but you probably don't need to know that!)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: GruB on 06 February, 2009, 08:12:18 pm
Yep, the most difficult so far.  The wind this morning made it trickier and the icy conditions didn't assist.  I didn't fall off on the way in, but did on the way home. I had to take 2 diversions due to snow / ice drifts too.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 09 February, 2009, 11:02:36 am
I notice that there are severe weather warnings for snow issued for today in lots of places.

We've got nasty, cold, inconvenient rain, but nothing I'd call severe.

Has anyone else had another layer of snow?
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: border-rider on 09 February, 2009, 11:04:21 am
No - they were forecasting a load for here, starting this afternoon, but so far it's just raining

I left the car at Bristol Airport on Thursday - getting it out yesterday was entertaining.  There was still a lot of snow on the ground over there.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: clarion on 09 February, 2009, 11:08:37 am
Persistent rain here, building up from quite light earlier.

But the temperature has dropped quite rapidly.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Eccentrica Gallumbits on 09 February, 2009, 01:12:09 pm
When I got up this morning I found a couple of inches of snow had fallen overnight, but when I went out, the temperature felt quite mild. I've just come back into the office, the snow is melting but the temperature feels a lot colder.  ???
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: pcolbeck on 09 February, 2009, 01:21:42 pm
Same here and its gone from a lovely clear day to foggy.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 09 February, 2009, 01:29:01 pm
I think that today is the nastiest that this rotten winter has so far thrown at us. Horrid, cold persistent rain with no prospect of a let-up before first light tomorrow.

Incredibly, the Met Office have published this as the weather record for today:-

(http://peter.chesspod.com/gallery/d/4804-2/shoeburyweather.jpg)

I live about 5 miles from that weather station and we have had nothing but unrelenting heavy rain and totally overcast conditions all day. If it were sunny in Shoeburyness, I'm sure I'd be able to see some blue sky from my house, which I can't.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: alchemy on 09 February, 2009, 01:35:27 pm
7 days in the Antipodes

Tuesday       Fine, hot.       Min 20     Max 36
Wednesday    Fine, very hot.                        Min 22     Max 40
Thursday     Fine, becoming humid.                  Min 23    Max 38
Friday       Fine, partly cloudy.                   Min 20     Max 31
Saturday     Fine. Windy morning.                   Min 17     Max 34
Sunday       Fine, very hot.                        Min 20     Max 38
Monday       Fine, very hot.                        Min 21     Max 39


 :sick: :sick: :sick:
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: woollypigs on 09 February, 2009, 02:20:20 pm
Not looking forward to Friday, only 31C that is going to be brrrr :) Looking on the telly of the fires in Victoria, you lot must think that 44C cold because many have trousers and some even jumpers on !!!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: bikenerd on 09 February, 2009, 02:28:07 pm
Mrs Nerd was sick on Thursday and Friday, so we didn't need the car.  However, she perked over the weekend so I had to dig the car out yesterday evening.  The rather heavy snow on Thurs and Friday had turned into about 3 inches of compacted ice with another couple of inches of snow on top.  Took about an hour to clear the hardstanding at the back of the flat.  And my back and arse muscles hurt today.  :-[

The rest of Oxford is the same: many of the pavements around the university area are lethal compacted ice.  I might have to email building services and ask why they haven't been gritted.  :demon:
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Ian H on 09 February, 2009, 02:40:29 pm
I'm back in the Southwest, the power's back on, and the place is filling up with water - snow melt and rain combining to overcome river banks and roadside ditches.

Glug glug.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Basil on 09 February, 2009, 11:47:14 pm
YouTube - man stroke woman - court (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY3pl-lEA50&feature=related)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 10 February, 2009, 07:28:56 am
We have far too much water here in Suffolk.  Due to heavy rain yesterday and all through the night, the river has burst its banks and is nowat least 80 feet wider than it was previously.  Walking the dogs will be interesting.  I will take some pics later on.  It is still raining.   :-\
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 10 February, 2009, 07:32:04 am
I 'eard reference made to the Chelmer on the Toady Prog this a.m. It's liable to burst its banks at Chelmsford, apparently. Humphrys then made reference to the Chelmer "and other major rivers". ;D

On her 50th birthday, Mrs. Wow and I went for a nice walk in the Thaxted area during which we jumped over the Chelmer.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 10 February, 2009, 11:36:25 am
Well the Environment Agency have been of little help to us.  They said we are on a warning but don't really know what's happening.  It should be an alert, the river continues to rise, most of the roads around me are flooded and therefore closed.  My friend lives just round the corner and was woken by two hefty coppers at 5.30am to tell her that her garden was flooded.  She is surrounded on all sides by the river.

The road leading to our house is now starting to flood, this is not good news, if it comes in the front there is nowhere for it to go as the river is out the back and that is far too full already.

Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 10 February, 2009, 11:59:40 am
This pic is taken from my office window, looking at the back of my property and across the field.  Next to the little trees and bushes is normally the river footpath.  My friend lives off to the left, although you are unable to see her property in this picture.
(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/nettienoodles/DSC03047.jpg)

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/nettienoodles/DSC03049.jpg)

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/nettienoodles/DSC03050.jpg)

(http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t250/nettienoodles/DSC03051.jpg)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Chris S on 10 February, 2009, 12:49:41 pm
Bet you still have a hosepipe ban though...  ;)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: little miss mac on 10 February, 2009, 01:12:42 pm
There is a cherry tree in bloom in my street. Does this mean it's spring yet?
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Mr Larrington on 10 February, 2009, 01:19:19 pm
Drove home via the scenic route yesterday.  With the rain and the melting SNO a fair bit of it was under water, but there were a couple of intrepid souls braving it by bike.

This just in from the Facilities Bods:

Quote from: Facilities Bods
Although there are no flood warnings on the Harlow section of the River Stort at the moment, we are aware that the Thames barrier will be closing at 10.30 this morning, which may ultimately cause further local flooding.   We will put out further announcements as necessary, but please be aware that you may be asked to move your cars at short notice.

The Thames Barrier?  The car park is forty metres above sea level :o >:( ???
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: andygates on 10 February, 2009, 01:27:33 pm
Our flood plains are all floody, 'tis excellent. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Charlotte on 10 February, 2009, 01:29:29 pm
Jaysus, Annie!  That's looking a bit hairy   :o
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: mike on 10 February, 2009, 01:49:29 pm
blimey - how's the ark coming on, Annie? 
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: clarion on 10 February, 2009, 02:37:31 pm
I'm sitting a short way upstream of the Thames barrier, and I've seen the local flood risk plan.

The church round the corner apparently featured in the recent drama on flooding.

TB closing?  My bowels loosened momentarily.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Chris S on 10 February, 2009, 02:53:05 pm
TB closing?  My bowels loosened momentarily.

That'll just make the tide come in more...  :-\
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: alan on 10 February, 2009, 02:56:07 pm
Drove home via the scenic route yesterday.  With the rain and the melting SNO a fair bit of it was under water, but there were a couple of intrepid souls braving it by bike.

This just in from the Facilities Bods:

Quote from: Facilities Bods
Although there are no flood warnings on the Harlow section of the River Stort at the moment, we are aware that the Thames barrier will be closing at 10.30 this morning, which may ultimately cause further local flooding.   We will put out further announcements as necessary, but please be aware that you may be asked to move your cars at short notice.

The Thames Barrier?  The car park is forty metres above sea level :o >:( ???

will bycycles owners recieve the same consideration with regard to moving their machine at short notice or is it assummed by the management that bikes float :demon:
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Mr Larrington on 10 February, 2009, 03:20:22 pm
will bycycles owners recieve the same consideration with regard to moving their machine at short notice or is it assummed by the management that bikes float :demon:

I don't think anyone's been brave enough to cycle in for the past fortnight...
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: JJ on 10 February, 2009, 03:34:39 pm
I took it into my head to run in to work this morning.  The babbling brook that feeds into the Cam was well up, and the footbridge over it was 8 inches or so under.  I had never realised that the coppice on the other side is a couple of feet lower.  It was interesting to see each tree with its own bow wave and wake.  I squelched the rest of the way in.
I can report that Grantchester Meadows were starting to flood.  If there's a cold snap soon, there may be good skating opportunities.

Here's hoping the waters recede before you get wet Annie.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: TimO on 10 February, 2009, 03:53:15 pm
On the way in this morning, I noticed there was a small new lake on Tooting Bec Common where (http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=529214&y=172353&z=106&sv=529214,172353&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=858&ax=529214&ay=172353&lm=0) there isn't one normally.  Given the few rather forlorn little heaps of presumably almost totally melted snowmen, I guess this is mostly from the melting snow.

I rather hope the Mayors worries about 40m of flooding does not come true, since my house is less than 40m above sea level, although ten miles or so from the Thames... :-\

Still, it's bobbins compared to Annie's problems.  I hope the nice new bike is upstairs!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Greenbank on 10 February, 2009, 03:59:30 pm
I rather hope the Mayors worries about 40m of flooding does not come true

What insanity is this? Got a link?
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 10 February, 2009, 06:31:12 pm
blimey - how's the ark coming on, Annie? 

Sadly a long way from being finished.  In fact not even started as yet.  I have a little bit of wood.

I have a plan though.  I could strap something to the top of the three dogs.  I have loads of that white stuff they put inside walls, can't remember the name.  It floats.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: nutkin on 10 February, 2009, 06:36:10 pm
This pic is taken from my office window, looking at the back of my property and across the field. 


Eeeek!  :o

Time to get the water-wings out!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: andrewc on 10 February, 2009, 06:50:57 pm
 :o :o

Just seen those pics!  Hope it doesn't get worse!

Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Jezza on 10 February, 2009, 06:57:14 pm
Hope you're alright over there Annie. It's getting a bit biblical now after 48 hours of rain. 

Quote
I could strap something to the top of the three dogs.

Doggy paddle?  :)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 10 February, 2009, 07:03:27 pm
I managed to get home in Mr A's vehicle, it was a bit touch and go though.  The only way I can get anywhere is in his 4 x 4.  I am unable to now walk the dogs or walk anywhere, only the big vehicle will get us out to civilization.

I do however have the MTB and that will get me through the water but I will then be soaked and freezing.  If need be I will use that to get supplies.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: RogerT on 10 February, 2009, 07:06:23 pm
The speed that the rivers have "come up" is the suprise.  Going to work this morning the Great Ouse at St Ives was normal, tonight the lock gates have been "reversed" and the river is a torrent.

Pity the poor people who parked their cars in the Dolphin Hotel car park that is currently somewhat submerged.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: alan on 10 February, 2009, 07:09:49 pm


Pity the poor people who parked their cars in the Dolphin Hotel car park that is currently somewhat submerged.


An appropriate name considering the circumstances n'est pas?
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: andrewc on 10 February, 2009, 07:25:28 pm
I managed to get home in Mr A's vehicle, it was a bit touch and go though.  The only way I can get anywhere is in his 4 x 4.  I am unable to now walk the dogs or walk anywhere, only the big vehicle will get us out to civilization.

I do however have the MTB and that will get me through the water but I will then be soaked and freezing.  If need be I will use that to get supplies.

A Motor Torpedo Boat  :o  You never cease to amaze me!

Stay safe Pixie. 


Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: TimO on 10 February, 2009, 08:41:47 pm
I rather hope the Mayors worries about 40m of flooding does not come true

What insanity is this? Got a link?

I meant this (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=14606.msg271748#msg271748) Mayor. ;D
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 10 February, 2009, 08:47:20 pm
Annie! Ahoy there! Wave!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Bledlow on 10 February, 2009, 08:49:47 pm
Annie! Ahoy there! Wave!
Too far out  . . . not waving, but . . . glug glug glug.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 10 February, 2009, 09:03:23 pm
 ;D Oi, gluggle, gluggle, glug glug.

Do you happen to have any rope upon your person?
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Chris S on 10 February, 2009, 09:03:42 pm
Annie! Ahoy there! Wave!
Too far out  . . . not waving, but . . . glug glug glug.

Annie and Co carve out a new life:

YouTube - captain pugwash (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&search_query=captain+pugwash)

Who's going to be Master Bates?
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: tonycollinet on 10 February, 2009, 09:04:15 pm
This pic is taken from my office window, looking at the back of my property and across the field.  Next to the little trees and bushes is normally the river footpath.  My friend lives off to the left, although you are unable to see her property in this picture.
....

Ouchie - how far below your wall is it?

At least looking across the fields it looks like there is an awful lot of flat land for it to fill up if it wants to get higher though - at least, if it is not sloping upwards too much in that direction.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 10 February, 2009, 09:06:39 pm
This pic is taken from my office window, looking at the back of my property and across the field.  Next to the little trees and bushes is normally the river footpath.  My friend lives off to the left, although you are unable to see her property in this picture.
....

Ouchie - how far below your wall is it?

At least looking across the fields it looks like there is an awful lot of flat land for it to fill up if it wants to get higher though - at least, if it is not sloping upwards too much in that direction.

About an inch from the bottom of the wall, well it was when I checked a couple of hours ago.  The wall is not in a good state, very old and contains drainage holes.

The problem is likely to be the water that is coming down the road at the front of the property.  It is hitting the footbridge up river and therefore being forced over the wall and onto the road towards the house.

I have a sense of humour.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: tonycollinet on 10 February, 2009, 09:09:09 pm
 :-\

*sends virtual rubber ring*
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 10 February, 2009, 09:14:14 pm
Jaysus, Annie!  That's looking a bit hairy   :o

And how does this remark relate to Annie's predicament?   O:-)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Zipperhead on 10 February, 2009, 09:42:28 pm
Sadly a long way from being finished.  In fact not even started as yet.  I have a little bit of wood.

Me too most mornings.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Mr Larrington on 11 February, 2009, 11:03:25 am
I rather hope the Mayors worries about 40m of flooding does not come true, since my house is less than 40m above sea level, although ten miles or so from the Thames... :-\

Well, a fair chunk of the car park is closed this morning, as it got flooded and then froze over.  I suspect, however, that this had little or nothing to do with the Thames Barrier and a lot to do with the river Stort being too full of water.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Greenbank on 11 February, 2009, 11:10:47 am
I rather hope the Mayors worries about 40m of flooding does not come true

What insanity is this? Got a link?

I meant this (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=14606.msg271748#msg271748) Mayor. ;D

:)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: JJ on 11 February, 2009, 10:27:08 pm
May we be told please?  Is Annie's downstairs wet or dry.  Is the river at the bottom of the garden or vice-versa?

Worried of Cambs.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: clarion on 11 February, 2009, 10:30:19 pm
May we be told please?  Is Annie's downstairs wet or dry. 

Fnarrr.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 11 February, 2009, 11:56:32 pm
May we be told please?  Is Annie's downstairs wet or dry. 

Fnarrr.

I shall put you out of your misery.

Downstairs is currently dry :thumbsup:  Things are now quite slippery though ;)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 February, 2009, 12:15:26 am
Have  you eaten a jelly baby? LucKY Jelly baby!
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 12 February, 2009, 07:40:56 am
Have  you eaten a jelly baby? LucKY Jelly baby!

Very good Mr Wow :thumbsup:  No I haven't, not unless I go to the shop.

Today in Suffolk, we have snow.  After the floods came the snow.  After the snow came ...... jelly babies.  After the jelly babies came silliness.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: JJ on 12 February, 2009, 02:37:55 pm
I am so relieved that I could cry.  Not only safe and sound but being suggestive in ways that I don't understand, but that involve sweets.

Thank you thank you thank you.

Returns to conference call:  Yes mr boss?  You asked a question?...
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: pcolbeck on 12 February, 2009, 03:14:00 pm
Snowing like mad here and has been since lunchtime. An inch all ready.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Mr Larrington on 12 February, 2009, 03:22:51 pm
According to the BBC, it's heavy SNO here too.

It has turned a bit cloudy, which is pretty much the same thing, I suppose.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 12 February, 2009, 03:50:55 pm
I am so relieved that I could cry.  Not only safe and sound but being suggestive in ways that I don't understand, but that involve sweets.

Thank you thank you thank you.

Returns to conference call:  Yes mr boss?  You asked a question?...

 ;)

I found Jelly People in one of the little drawers.  They remain unopened.  Once the clock strikes 19.00 hours that will all change.  The sugar rush will provoke much fun and frivolity.  I plan to take my time in consuming the little devils and ensuring that they all get to tickle my tonsills. ;) :-*
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: peliroja on 12 February, 2009, 04:49:10 pm
Thick snow fell this morning where I am. No one batted an eyelid. Life goes on as usual. Just poxy UK-destination flights are delayed.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 February, 2009, 04:53:12 pm
Thick snow fell this morning where I am. No one batted an eyelid. Life goes on as usual. Just poxy UK-destination flights are delayed.

That's clearly to make the UK passengers feel at home.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: TimO on 12 February, 2009, 05:06:45 pm
It's just started snowing in South Ken, but doesn't seem to be settling, which is just as well since I forgot my overshoes this morning (I only noticed that my feet were cold about halfway in!)
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 12 February, 2009, 09:58:52 pm
Wossgoinon?

It's snowing like the clappers, settling loads and I didn't think any of this was forecast. I've just had a very exciting and slightly slippery ride back from tai chi.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Marco Stefano on 12 February, 2009, 10:12:40 pm
I saw a forecast for a little light sleet... 2 - 3" of crisp snow in Ely since 4pm, still just about coming down, but the sky has that orangey 'full of snow' look to it. Reckon schools will be shut tomorrow.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: annie on 12 February, 2009, 10:20:36 pm
Who said it could snow in Suffolk?  I have plans for tomorrow.  I am not amused. 
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Deano on 12 February, 2009, 10:26:15 pm
It started snowing mid-morning here in NE England.  I think it caught everyone on the hop, but it laid and kept snowing and didn't let up until about 5 pm, in time for it all to turn to 'orrible slush while I was riding home.  I was lucky the local youths were crap at aiming snowballs.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 13 February, 2009, 09:38:18 am
(http://peter.chesspod.com/gallery/d/4808-2/Snapshot+2009-02-13+09-31-27.jpg)

Spring's coming!  :D
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: clarion on 13 February, 2009, 10:03:03 am
Rather pathetic snow last night by ours.

Don't think it put anyone off coming round for our little gathering.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Mr Larrington on 13 February, 2009, 10:03:15 am
SNO while queueing outside the Union Chapel last night, rain when we came out again chiz.  Nothing much left in Londonton this morning, but a fair bit in Harlow.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: pcolbeck on 13 February, 2009, 10:07:46 am
Amazing amounts of snow here on the Wolds. We got 6 inches in 6 hours and it was the big fluffy stuff and all laid. Haven't had that much snow in such a short time for years. The snow ploughs couldn't keep up with it. They just got the kids home from school before the country roads were impassable for buses. Hasn't snowed at all in the night though and it looks like it's all going to melt today. That was a proper old fashioned snow fall not the usually 1 inch one day then another 1 inch the next like we have been having recently. If it had kept going all night we would have been snowed in good and proper today but teh snow plough came through at about 10:00pm last night and the roads are fine if a bit slippery now.
Title: Re: Winter draws on!
Post by: Wowbagger on 13 February, 2009, 10:31:59 am
It's all melting here. Looking forward to my weekend's rides.