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Title: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 15 February, 2011, 07:34:34 pm
Right, we have a sort of plan.....

Kim'n'me, lungs and knees and weather permitting, will meet in York on the Saturday morning and go for a ride somewhere currently unspecified (but quite probably east into the flatlands, with the option of a gratuitous hill if she insists).  There will be tea stops, and cake stops, and possibly a pub stop, and undoubtably (if she makes me go up a hill) Crinkly-stopping-to-pick-up-lung-stops.  I may make her go to Millington if the weather is nice enough for a picnic.  If requested, pooh sticks can be arranged.  Somewhere in the region of 40ish 55-60 miles round trip (unless we change strategy very early on!).  We will then return to York, potentially indulge in lessons in disc-brake-fu and almost undoubtably eat takeaway curry.  

On the Sunday, lungs and knees and weather permitting, we will probably go for a very very flat ride to a park or a pub or possibly both with the EldestCub prior to Kim's departure back to Mordor in the afternoon.  If we're really lucky we might even persuade Dearly_Beloved to acompany us and bring the smaller Cub along in his babyseat.

Anyone fancy joining us?

Edited to add the current list of possible attendees:

Saturday
About 55 miles (although with the option of some shortcuts) potentially with the inclusion of mild optical illusions.  Gather up at the CrinklyDen in York to leave by 10am.


Me - with some CAKE and alarming levels of responsibility for not getting lost.
Kim - probably onna upwrong possibly risking the streetmachine for SCIENCE
Deano onna fixed - but only because of chip spice
Maybe Mr Nesbitt - if hedges aren't more appealing except he got a better offer, and likes hills more than he likes my cake  ;)
"Slow"coach - if he doesn't accidentally do an audax instead.  GPSs may be removed at the start at the discretion of me :P
Possibly a ponderous Clarion.  With accomplices, I wonder? Unfortunately it looks like life has got in the way - they'll just have to come and ride round god's own county another time with us :)
possiblely maybe not yet sure Jogler - perhaps onna bent, hopefully without recourse to a WVM rescue lurgy stopped play, but maybe he'll bring me flapjack later this month instead :)
Postman Piers - will he be on a Pashley? The lack of a towbar scuppered the plan.  Couldn't he have ridden here?
Rower40 - who might turn up on anything from a rubber band drive to a 'bent, depending on how far through the bike-fettling algorithm he's got
interzen - will he have 11 gears-inna-can by then, or is the future still orange? has to go do work instead - boo hiss.
Tiermat who is no longer in Norway
MrCharly, and MsCharly on the prettiest little blue bike EVAH  :thumbsup:
Perhaps Mobbsy the infeasibly tall, possibly with a son or 2 along Sadly, not this time.
tiptop, if I can suppy a sufficiency of cake
andrewc, who promises not to nick your wheels but makes no such rash promises about any CAKE that might be hanging around....
Mr Bunbury, hopefully joining us in time for the pub.  I wonder what the soup of the day might be?

Sunday
(not very far at all, probably the planets as far as Naburn and a Pubbe)
CrinklyCub - we'll make him take charge of not getting lost
Me
Kim (possibly pedalling one-legged)
Arch
Arch's friend-who-is-a-boy
Perhaps Dearly_Beloved with the SmallestCub on the back
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 15 February, 2011, 08:50:45 pm
This represents an attempt at doing a proper (ie. more interesting than the dual carriageways and backroads of south Birmingham) bike ride in spite of ongoing knee problems, hence the shortish distance.  I'm open to the possibility of extending it a bit if things go well, but will have to play it by ear.  Or should that be leg.  Though I'm not a grasshopper, and I don't even ride one.

CL - don't worry about navigation, I'll have my trusty Garmin to blame when things go wrong.   :D
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 15 February, 2011, 08:53:02 pm
I might be around on the Saturday.  I've fancied doing Bishop Wilton Wold on fixed for a while ;)

Gilpin's Gallop on the Sunday, so unless you fancy coming along to Boroughbridge to cheer us on..?  Thought not.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 15 February, 2011, 09:04:38 pm
Well, we could ride the nice flat way to Bishop Wilton and then the wimps could go and play on the swings and/or for a pint in the Fleece while the nutters went up Wozzie Hill, then back down Garrowby.  Or the complete and utter nutters did it the other way round.....

It is, theoretically, possible to go up worsendale hill to the A166 then fairly quickly head off to Millington.  But it is a git of a hill, and probably not knee friendly.  Givendale is nothing like as high, and nothing like as nasty.  I suspect that my legs could possibly even get up it without stopping, but my lungs (as I proved on Sunday) can't!

Millington is lovely.  And if the weather was nice I could probably arrange a Grannie-Annie-picnic drop there....
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 15 February, 2011, 09:19:29 pm
Millington Pastures is lovely - I don't think I fully appreciated when I rode through there, as my frame was crumbling beneath me.  It'd be a pleasant inclusion to the ride.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: MSeries on 15 February, 2011, 09:22:17 pm
Anyone fancy joining us?

mebbees/probably,
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 15 February, 2011, 09:30:09 pm
Excellent - Kim, you might even be safe from the perils of Crinkly navigation 'cos that's two people who know their way round that bit of the world  ;D
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: MSeries on 15 February, 2011, 09:32:48 pm
Excellent - Kim, you might even be safe from the perils of Crinkly navigation 'cos that's two people who know their way round that bit of the world  ;D
I;m only tentative at present so don't get too excited. I have three clear weekend after the one coming but I am planning on using the first one to visit a good friend of mine whose wife makes good cakes. I promised myself a weekend off soon to clean my bike too and cut my hedges
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Karla on 15 February, 2011, 09:34:30 pm
Be warned Crinkly, Mr N thinks that I am you.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: MSeries on 15 February, 2011, 09:36:24 pm
Be warned Crinkly, Mr N thinks that I am you.
Not anymore. Just my electronic address book tripping. Could have been worse, could have been anyone of about 7 bike shops or curry houses, or the Job Centre Plus or the dentist who was touting. Thank heavens it was two people who know each other that got mixed up.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 15 February, 2011, 09:36:33 pm
I heard about that ;D
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 15 February, 2011, 09:42:37 pm
I didn't.  I don't think.  How intriguing! 

In fairness, I don't think that even I could get lost of we go to Bishop Wilton/Pocklington.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: MSeries on 15 February, 2011, 09:44:09 pm
I didn't.  I don't think.  How intriguing! 

In fairness, I don't think that even I could get lost of we go to Bishop Wilton/Pocklington.
ywhpm in  a moment
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Steve GT on 16 February, 2011, 11:35:50 am
I might be around on the Saturday.  I've fancied doing Bishop Wilton Wold on fixed for a while ;)

Gilpin's Gallop on the Sunday, so unless you fancy coming along to Boroughbridge to cheer us on..?  Thought not.

Thinking of doing the Pollag S'niplig 200 so I should bump into you twice!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Karla on 16 February, 2011, 12:00:28 pm
I didn't.  I don't think.  How intriguing! 

In fairness, I don't think that even I could get lost of we go to Bishop Wilton/Pocklington.
ywhpm in  a moment

Oi, stop sending me random PMs  ;)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: SlowCoach on 16 February, 2011, 01:30:28 pm
This sounds tempting. Unfortunately I'm supposed to be doing Gilpin's Gallop (only the 100 for me though) the day after and that means I'm going to need a pass out for two consecutive days.

Given that Gilpin's Gallop will be my first audax ever** I ought to pretend to prepare for it.... Put me down as a maybe.

** It might be my 2nd. There was an occasion in the 1970s when we had route sheets thrust in our hands and told - "you are late - get a move on". We were only going for a pootle at the time and happened to pass what must have been the start control, but did as we were told. All I know was it was rather further than we intended to go, there were a couple of controls along the way, and at the end someone asked us "You are XYZ aren't you?" When our response was "No, never heard of them" there was much puzzlement and then guffawing from the other side of the table. I have no idea what the event was, or really how we got there. I blame it on the hangover - which was why we had gone for a pootle in the first place.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: LindaG on 16 February, 2011, 01:32:36 pm
This sounds tempting. Unfortunately I'm supposed to be doing Gilpin's Gallop (only the 100 for me though) the day after and that means I'm going to need a pass out for two consecutive days.

Given that Gilpin's Gallop will be my first audax ever** I ought to pretend to prepare for it.... Put me down as a maybe.

** It might be my 2nd. There was an occasion in the 1970s when we had route sheets thrust in our hands and told - "you are late - get a move on". We were only going for a pootle at the time and happened to pass what must have been the start control, but did as we were told. All I know was it was rather further than we intended to go, there were a couple of controls along the way, and at the end someone asked us "You are XYZ aren't you?" When our response was "No, never heard of them" there was much puzzlement and then guffawing from the other side of the table. I have no idea what the event was, or really how we got there. I blame it on the hangover - which was why we had gone for a pootle in the first place.

 ;D ;D

We have entere the S'nilpig Pollag 200km.  Would be nice to see you all there.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Karla on 16 February, 2011, 01:40:07 pm
I've never heard of that ride, though I've heard of Gilpin's Gallop and Pollag S'nipling.  Which one are you doing?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: SlowCoach on 16 February, 2011, 02:00:06 pm
I've never heard of that ride, though I've heard of Gilpin's Gallop and Pollag S'nipling.  Which one are you doing?

My guess is Pollag S'nipling - backwards  ;D
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: LindaG on 16 February, 2011, 02:05:40 pm
I've never heard of that ride, though I've heard of Gilpin's Gallop and Pollag S'nipling.  Which one are you doing?

One of those.  Or neither of those, depending.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 16 February, 2011, 02:38:53 pm
So all you hardcore audaxers really ought to come out to play on the Saturday.  It'd make a nice little opportunity for a leg-stretching warm up and a "beautifully-fettled-to-within-an-inch-of-their-lives-bikes" shakedown ride.  And I think I can probably guarantee carb-loading possibilities  ;D
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 16 February, 2011, 08:14:24 pm
Well, weather and knees and lungs permitting, I'd suggest something like this to Pocklington:

Bicycle Path - York-SB-BW-Millington-Huggate-Pock at Bikely.com (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/490055)

Or, if we want a slightly more knee friendly version:

Bicycle Path - York-SB-BW-Millington-Pock-2 at Bikely.com (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/490051)

With the possible inclusion for other people, whilst I'm having a pint in the Fleece or playing on the swings of this:

Bicycle Path - A Completely Gratuitous Hill at Bikely.com (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/490052)

Or, if they are too knee-unfriendly on the day, we could drop the bit up to Givendale and through Millington (or even the diversion to Bishop Wilton, since you can go direct to Pock and get an almost entirely flat 20ish miles ride) - a decision to be made nearer the time, possibly informed by the outcome of certain stokering in the hills Silly_Bike_Adventures.

Possible cafe/pub/shop/public conveniences stop in Stamford Bridge.  Pubs in Bishop Wilton, Huggate and possibly several other places in between.  I could probably arrange a picnic drop off in Millington Pastures.  Pubs/cafes/various people who would probably make us a cuppa in Pock.

Return to York, depending on how far we want it to be, on one of the following:

Bicycle Path - Pock to York - quick-ish way at Bikely.com (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/490054) (this in reverse is the quick-ish flat way that I'd suggest to Pock if we needed it - Cub's usual route)

Bicycle Path - Pock-York at Bikely.com (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/490057) (the bit from Elvington back to York is a bit dull though)

 Pock to York with added Friday commute goodness  (http://www.bikely.com/maps/bike-path/490060) (further, and can be made a squeak longer by using the planets path back from the pub at Naburn, but much nicer)

ETA - I have checked, Kim, and can indeed offer emergency vehicular rescue from the hilly bits round Bishop Wilton/Pocklington in the event of knee implosion.  Although someone else would have to lift the bike into me mum's car!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: clarion on 16 February, 2011, 09:26:20 pm
*ponders*
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 16 February, 2011, 09:52:47 pm
I think we should have a suitable ceremony at WVM corner (http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=483368&y=449465&z=115&sv=483368,449465&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=800&ax=483368&ay=449465&lm=0)

(sorry, jogler) (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8619.msg181028#msg181028)

Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 16 February, 2011, 10:06:54 pm
*ponders*

And what might you be pondering?  Enquiring minds (aka nosy buggers) would love to know!

I think we should have a suitable ceremony at WVM corner (http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=483368&y=449465&z=115&sv=483368,449465&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=800&ax=483368&ay=449465&lm=0)

Any particular suggestions?  Personally I'd go for a ceremonial eating of cake.  But that's just my default option  :D
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: MSeries on 16 February, 2011, 10:16:44 pm
*ponders*
If The Clarion is making an appearance I might eschew trimming the hedge.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: jogler on 16 February, 2011, 10:18:42 pm
I think we should have a suitable ceremony at WVM corner (http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=483368&y=449465&z=115&sv=483368,449465&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=800&ax=483368&ay=449465&lm=0)

(sorry, jogler) (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=8619.msg181028#msg181028)



I now have a swb 'bent which could act as a substitute for the fixed as a bike on which to do a ride using a bike with with I'm not entirely familiar ::-)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 16 February, 2011, 10:20:06 pm
Or you could just ride the Langster, and make sure you take the utterly gratuitous hill option to help recreate the emotion of the moment.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: jogler on 16 February, 2011, 10:33:30 pm
BTDTGTTS

I reckon I could ride up that hill now on fixed :smug: which would prevent WVM making an appearance.

However I also reckon I would struggle on the 'bent thus creating the velo-incantation which summons WVM ;D
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 16 February, 2011, 10:43:54 pm
But we'd be going down Kilnwick Percy, assuming of course that we end up on a lumpy route, rather than one of the flat-as-a-pancake options.  By which I mean Crinkly-flat, not them-mad-buggers-Deano-and-Mr-Nesbitt flat.

The nicest route would probably be this one

(http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183190_10150099034511839_551606838_6018293_96057_n.jpg)

followed by going back south of the 1079 and through Melbourne, Sutton, Elvington, Wheldrake and Naburn.  But that would total 60ish miles, and about 2000 feet of climbing and possibly wouldn't be classified as knee-friendly.

But we can plan options ranging from that to 40 lump-free miles.  And possibly not even decide until the day.

I've just realised, I appear to be organising a forum ride.  Presumably that means I'll be s'posed to know where I am and everything?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 16 February, 2011, 10:47:47 pm
It seems to me that the knee cares far more about distance than it does about hills.  For I have TEH GEARZ

I may revise this view in light of the outcome of the Hilly 50.


CL: I reckon a "you are here" badge and a map of the solar system should cover it :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 16 February, 2011, 11:14:49 pm
Actually Kim, it occurs to me that we could probably attempt the nice, pretty and mildly optically illusion infested route, giving us 35-ish miles to Pock where, if The Knee was playing silly buggers after the delights of Millington, Huggate and WVM corner, I could give you my house keys and pack you off to York in my mum's car.  If said bit of anatomy was behaving itself, we could head off south of the 1079 with the options of a 16-ish mile reasonably pleasant flat route (basically the first bit of the FNRttC in reverse - from the pub to York) that can be extended to 25-ish (still flat) with added Friday commute loveliness in the event of a stupendously well behaved knee.  Does that sound reasonably sensible, for a Silly_Bike_Adventure?  
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 16 February, 2011, 11:21:21 pm
The knee says "creak-CLICK!"   :thumbsup:


ETA:  My friend Postman Piers (I don't think of this parish?) has expressed an interest in nipping up from the People's Republic to join us for this ride.  It's been a while since he's been on a bike, let alone hauled mail around Bristol on a 3-speed Pashley, so with luck his Legs Of Steel will have atrophied to a level where he won't be embarrassingly fast...
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: rower40 on 16 February, 2011, 11:48:26 pm
Can I come plz?
I might even have a working 'bent by then.  Otherwise it's Dooring Bores Galaxy.
Will we be "doing" the solar system, or is that a bit of the wrong direction for Pock etc?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 16 February, 2011, 11:51:00 pm
Of course.  The more the merrier.

If I do end up bringing the Discovery, it would be a shame not to take it to Jupiter...
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 17 February, 2011, 01:35:33 am
At the risk of jinxing myself, I could well be up for that ...
Now that I've had my insurance-related medical, my immediate thoughts are 'screw it, I need the exercise', especially as I've put on half a stone since the accident :(
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 17 February, 2011, 09:16:49 am
So that's

Me - with some CAKE and alarming levels of responsibility for not getting lost.
Kim - probably onna upwrong
Maybe Deano onna fixed - we'll wait for him in the pub in Bishop Wilton while he does utterly gratuitous hills if he really insists
Maybe Mr Nesbitt - if hedges aren't more appealing
Maybe "Slow"coach - if he doesn't accidentally do an audax instead.  GPSs may be removed at the start at the discretion of me :P
Possibly a ponderous Clarion.  With accomplices, I wonder?
possiblely maybe not yet sure Jogler - perhaps onna bent, hopefully without recourse to a WVM rescue
Postman Piers - will he be on a Pashley?
Rower40 - who might turn up on anything from a rubber band drive to a 'bent, depending on how far through the bike-fettling algorithm he's got
interzen - will he have 11 gears-inna-can by then, or is the future still orange?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: jogler on 17 February, 2011, 11:18:32 am
I am only a possiblely maybe not yet sure.
I may have to piroritise other things nearer home involving less travelling time & expense given that I am already committed to being in York for the Wiggington 100km audax
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 17 February, 2011, 11:24:50 am
More than likely I'll be bringing canned gears - will decide nearer the time whether I bring 8 or 11. With a bit of fettling, I could have 11 canned gears *and* an orange future :)

Probably won't be riding fixed again until I've had at least a couple of physio sessions and my back muscles loosen up a bit.

EDIT: I do have my 11 canned gears now (and photos to prove it :) ) but the bike build has been delayed a bit due to my original choice of chainset not being compatible with the frame (unfortunate coming together of chainrings and chainstays) and the shop not having my Plan B chainset in 175mm. Will be popping in this weekend to check on the progress.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 17 February, 2011, 11:35:36 am
Alas, my Mum is visiting on the 12th, on a coach trip, so I'm out.  I'm also hoping my other half will come over that weekend, so as to meet my Mum.  If he brought his bike, I might get him out on a very gentle Sunday pootle, if it wasn't too early in the morning.

Have fun everyone!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 17 February, 2011, 02:24:37 pm
Postman Piers - will he be on a Pashley?

Sadly not.  He got promoted and is now responsible for dubious sorting machines and the people that feed them, rather than defying gravity on an indestructible bike.  It is, needless to say, a lot less fun.  While he does have a black and white cat, it seems unlikely that she'll be joining us on the ride, either.

He operates a similar bike maintenance algorithm to rower40, only with fewer round tuits, so I won't be surprised if he turns up onna mountain bike because that's the one with a chain that bends.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 17 February, 2011, 03:03:10 pm
This is a pootle, right?  On Sat or Sun? Max 40miles?

At 40miles, it's conceivable that I could persuade MsCharly to accompany us  on her Mercian and I could ride mine. The accompanying of MsCharly would enhance the possibility of getting a pass-out from MrsCharly.  I am supposed to be doing nothing apart from repairing boats this year, but children come first . . .

MsCharly has achieved 30miles riding with me, but that included Hills of None-Imaginary Proportions and 24" gears.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 17 February, 2011, 03:25:30 pm
This is a pootle, right?  On Sat or Sun? Max 40miles?

Saturday - a proper-ish ride, route tbc, anywhere between 40 and 60 miles (possibly decided on the day) in light of The Knee's performance - if we can do towards the top end of that it's a much nicer ride.  The reason we decided to go out to play in the first place is that Kim, having had Far_Too_Much_Fun on some extraordinarily Silly_Bike_Adventures last year, and accidentally got officially fast in doing so, is a bit distance-limited at the moment and is going bonkers with the boredom of the same Mordor-ian loop.  I told her she had to come to York and we'd go for a different loop :)  The short and none-hilly option is basically my "boring-same-old-ride" to Pocklington and back.  The longer and lumpier options take us to nicer places.  I have pre-arranged an emergency rescue for Kim in the form of Granny Annie in her motor, if it proves necessary, to facilitate the more entertaining options, but it would only take one bike+rider.  

I reckon that Ms Charly could probably do the long loop, if she wanted to and if she's been riding a bit over the winter - she's a damn sight fitter and faster than me!  I'd have no qualms about taking the EldestCub along if it was guaranteed warm enough for him to not turn blue and if he had a few decent miles in his legs.  Unfortunately he's not done more than the school run since November....

Which is why on Sunday Kim and I, together with the EldestCub (and hopefully maybe Arch+potentially her friend-who-is-a-boy) and maybe some other people will go and do something like the planets path, or out towards Shipton/Aldwark.  Maybe to Riccall to the pub and the park.  Or maybe only as far as the Blacksmith's Arms if we're feeling lazy!  
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 17 February, 2011, 03:41:32 pm
I know she can belt around town, but her endurance is limited . . . Criminy, she can spend 4 hours solid on one pencil drawing but I seriously doubt she'd tackle that on a bike. More a question of bike-person interface toughness than fitness.

We will see - I might try to get her out on a ride. The elder smelly child would like to go cycling but riding with him is like taking a Jack Russell for a walk; it hurtles off at high pace, dashes back, pees on several bushes, then lies down and refuses to move halfway round the field.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 17 February, 2011, 03:48:40 pm
Well, you can tell her that home-made cake can be arranged, for either day, if that helps. 

We have a small friend who is also a bit of a Jack Russell. Sometimes him and the EldestCub (who I reckon is a natural audaxer) just sort of look at each other in a slightly confuddled and mystified way.....
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 17 February, 2011, 10:15:39 pm
We have entere the S'nilpig Pollag 200km.  Would be nice to see you all there.

How comes?  Seems everybody's starting at Boroughbridge rather than Houghton-le-Spring.  Unless you lot are especially quick (or I'm especially slow), we'll not have chance for a chin-wag at Girsby (assuming the hall is booked and it's not just Joe's mate with a trestle table of banananas).

This probably deserves a thread of its own, mind.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 18 February, 2011, 10:09:40 am
I thought about Gilpinn's Gallop.  But I'm not brave enough to attempt a 200, and there isn't a 100 starting at this end

Arch'n'me are going to probably go out this weekend, and may well do recce of the cafes and pubs hills on the route out through Givendale/Millington/Huggate.  My logic is if I can struggle up 'em on Valencia and she can conquer them on the trike, everybody else (knees allowing) should find them easy.

Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: tiermat on 18 February, 2011, 10:13:51 am
Put me down as a provisional for the Saturday, sans TLD, although if I can't do Saturday I might well manage a pootle along with TLD on the Sunday, especially if pub lunch is involved :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 18 February, 2011, 10:22:27 am
Hurrah \o/

T'is good to have you back in the country m'dear :)

As Kim arrives in York at (checks, cos I have the memory of a goldfish) 9:30 and will presumably have a bag with her toothbrush'n'stuff that would ideally get dropped off at the CrinklyDen before heading off, my suggestion would be to gather up round at ours, aiming for a 10 o'clock kick off on the Saturday.  10 minutes pootle across York from the station, and usually a reasonable amount of free on-street parking available.  Experimentation has shown that we can fit a reasonable quantity of cyclists and their assorted steeds in and around the Den, so long as they don't all want to sit down at the same time.  Coffee, Tea, CAKE and potentially bacon butties can be provided for anyone that's early.  This has the added advantage that I theoretically shouldn't be late.  How does that sound?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: hulver on 18 February, 2011, 11:17:54 am
Bah! I can't make this one. Sounds like fun.

It's my Dad's 65 birthday, so I'll be sat in a pub stuffing my self with vast quantities of food, and having pleasant interactions of the family kind.

Have fun all.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 18 February, 2011, 08:37:34 pm
I've mentioned this to my friend-who-is-a-boy and he seems up for a gentle pootle on the Sunday...  I must bear in mind that he's not all that regular a cyclist, and not drag him too many miles! 
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 18 February, 2011, 08:40:25 pm
I fully anticipate that I'll be pedalling with one leg by then, so that shouldn't be too much of a problem...  ;)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 20 February, 2011, 08:16:07 pm
Well, that's a recce run of the York to Pock bit done.  Spotted a stoat in his winter coat in Bishop Wilton, and I got up Givendale with only 2 "stop to pick up lungs" pauses this time.  Arch apparently hit 33 mph down Grimthorpe, and as I was gaining on her quite a lot of the way I guess I was doing a bit more than that!  There's a very pleasant tea rooms in Millington which had loads of (mostly unlocked) bikes outside (beans on toast £3.50, cakes all under 2 quid, excellent cream scones), and even on a grey gloomy day the long steady haul up through Millington Pastures is very pretty, although I was quite glad that a couple of oncoming cars gave us a good excuse to stop and pull over :)

The road from Huggate to Warter is glorious - a couple of short sharp-ish ups where I had to pedal a bit, but otherwise that whole stretch can just about be coasted.  There's a couple of (in my terms) bastard hills out of Warter, but the looooooooong descent down kilnwick percy hill into Pock compensates more than adequately - it was only spoilt by the dimwit in a motor who overtook me only in order to instantly indicate left, and pull into a farmtrack, and by the three loony free-range dogs chasing a rabbit near the bottom who tried to run out in front of me twice.  As a result I didn't keep up with Arch.  Mind, she apparently flew down most of it at around 38mph, which is at the top end of what I'd dare to do anyway!

We went for the short-ish flat-ish route back, with no Wowbadgers on Northgate lane this time, and totalled 55 miles from the Den and back to Arch's Seekrit Bunker.

Possible very early elevenses stop just before Stamford Bridge at the Balloon Tree if the weather's grim and we expect to cut the ride short.  But, weather permitting, I'd rather do what we did today and stop in the village for a loo and shop stop and press on a bit, if knees and lungs are agreeable.  There's a potential pub lunch in Bishop Wilton if we decide to chop out the majority hills but straight to Millington, even at our leisurely pace today, got us to the cafe for a half 1-ish lunch so about 3 hours in.  There's a couple of alternate routes back from Millington that avoid Huggate and Warter and cut out a couple of wee climbs if we feel the need, but the way we went today York - Pocklington is around 35 miles, didn't involve any walking (even for me) and includes the best part of 10 miles of freewheeling knee-respite. 

Lovely ride out really - and I was warm enough in a vest and a ls jersey (OMG, I was actually out in public IN DAYLIGHT in lycra and the world hasn't ended) with mitts - only really started to feel cold in the feet and the fingers for the last few miles once the sun went down and the wind got up.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 20 February, 2011, 09:04:45 pm
Yes, a grand day out.  Update: according to my computer my max speed down Kilnwick Percy was actually 40mph - I'd only dared to glance at it as I went, so I must have missed that moment. Very pleased to have seen the stoat in ermine though.  Fact: in all those pics of Henry VIII and the like, wearing the ermine fur with the little black dots in it, each dot is a stoat's tail.

Very good cafe, I hope you all enjoy it.

Pretty weary now, I've eaten a pasty, noodles, slice of toast, wagonwheel and a piece of cheese and had two mugs of tea, and I think I'll take to my bed soon.  We did both feel the cold a bit on the last leg, and I've not quite warmed up yet, despite almost sitting on my heater.

With the two miles each way to the lock up, I did about 61 miles - 98km, just short of a metric century. 
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 20 February, 2011, 09:13:47 pm
With the two miles each way to the lock up, I did about 61 miles - 98km, just short of a metric century. 
Thought you'd have at least gone round the block a couple of times to get the ton up :)

Anyway, all being well1, I'll be there with 11 gears inna can assuming that Bike Related Setback #2 can be overcome2. Said machine has been christened the "Bat Bike" by the lads in the bike shop and I think the name will stick as it is rather stealthy, even if its rider isn't. Will make sure I've got the brakes bedded in before I go hooning down hills at reckless speeds.

Simon

1 - I've managed to keep pretty mobile these past few days by keeping a hot water bottle or similar stuffed down the back of my trousers. Sounds crazy, but has stopped my back muscles going into spasm so I don't care how foolish it looks.
2 - Seems that a certain distributor who shall remain nameless sent an old-stock Surly 1x1 frame, not the new (2010/2011) spec. Naughty naughty. Means that all the stuff on the existing frame will need swapping over. Even with the 'wrong' frame, it looks suitably badass - Surly 1x1 - a set on Flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/interzen/sets/72157625902259379/)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 20 February, 2011, 09:48:19 pm
Too knackered to do anything but get home and eat! 
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: tiermat on 21 February, 2011, 03:15:26 pm
I know haz a pass for this!!!!

So here is to meeting friends new and old....

(and friends of friends)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 21 February, 2011, 03:37:49 pm
Well, Bike Related Setback #2 has been overcome, 'cos it turns out that the distributors did send the correct frame after all - just a bit puzzled as to why it needs a 26.8mm seatpost rather than 27.2mm as stated on the Surly site1 - I'm planning to get back on the bike when I return to work on the 24th, so hopefully I'll have a few miles in my legs come March 12th.

Since these things tend to happen in threes, I'm taking bets on what "Bike Related Setback #3" will be - my money is currently on "rear rack steadfastly refusing to play nice with disc brakes"

Simon

1 - I'm a bit puzzled by this, TBH, so I've emailed Surly for the 'official' word on the subject :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 21 February, 2011, 06:29:18 pm
Well, I've edited the OP with who I think is contemplating coming out to play :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 21 February, 2011, 06:41:47 pm
I'm still planning to come out, but Bike Related Setback #3 has just shown its hand - just got an email from Surly and they reckon I might have a damaged frame as the seatpost diameter should most definitely be 27.2mm. If this runs on, then it'll be 8 gears-inna-can for the forseeable future.

I feel a fight with the disties coming on *headdesk*
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Mobbsy on 21 February, 2011, 07:24:34 pm
Possibly. And I may have son1 and/or son2 with me perhaps.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 21 February, 2011, 07:52:48 pm
Excellent - I've added you to the list.

This is the tearooms (http://www.ramblersrestmillington.co.uk/tearoom/) that Arch and I found, menu here (http://www.ramblersrestmillington.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/TearoomMenuOct20101.pdf).  Open fires, nice soup, very fine cakes, tiled floors for the full 'cleats on hard surface clickety-clack' experience, reasonably big (although if we do end up with a fair few of us I might ring ahead), a nice warm porch where the muddier of the walkers had left their boots and clearly no objection to people wandering about in socks.  It's awfully nice, but they didn't seem perplexed at all by the number of people wearing lycra that were about.  Nice flexible opening times - serving from 10:30 til 4:00.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 21 February, 2011, 09:46:09 pm
Twas a very nice tearooms.  Those cream scones! 

And a vintage Tour de France photo print framed on one wall.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: rower40 on 21 February, 2011, 09:57:45 pm
The rubber-band drive is in the frame for this.  And, by dint of you spilling the beans as to when Kim is getting to York, I can continue my stalking of her happen to meet up on the same train, as it calls at Derby on its exodus from Mordor Central.

The last time we were on the same train, we loaded and unloaded the bikes through the space where the windows would have been. ::-)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 21 February, 2011, 10:00:40 pm
Crosscountry dangly bike spaces are practically the same thing...
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 21 February, 2011, 10:05:27 pm
I'm confused.  Are we, or are we not, including this (http://streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=481500&y=452500&z=120&sv=grimthorpe&st=3&tl=Map+of+Grimthorpe+Manor,+East+Riding+of+Yorkshire+&searchp=ids.srf&mapp=map.srf) descent in the route?  Seems a shame not to, assuming the gravel has settled down since the last time I was there.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 21 February, 2011, 10:20:03 pm
Assuming that we don't have to abandon hills, yes.  Through Bishop Wilton, along to Davison's Farm (which isn't Davison's any more, not that it would mean anything to anybody else anyway) which now has a caravan site and is where Bishop Wilton show is, then left and up Givendale Lane to Great Givendale.  A brief pause whislt you wait for me, then down Grimthorpe, past the stinky chicken farm and "wheeeeeeeee" down the hill (bit gravelly on the left but even I'm happy to hit 35mph on it) past the chevron and Deano's red arrow on the map to the junction, where we'd have to stop anyway because of the temporary traffic lights.  Left, then straight on at the fork (where I have to remember to engage granny ring early for the short but surprisingly vertical bit) then on to Millington village for a nice cup of tea.  Or not_tea, in Kim's case. 

Arch and I were reviewing descents, and we decided that Grimthorpe is pretty good, although the lights and the turn stop it being a 10/10 at the moment.  The zig zag down into the pastures gets extra points for the roller-coaster adrenaline rush.  Huggate down to Warter is bloody lovely although watch out for the 2 enormous potholes that mean you MUST take the centre of the road, never mind the lane, and be aware that there's a T junction and a stop line at the bottom.  Kilnwick Percy goes on forever, has decent sightlines, you can roll on through Pock without having to stop and it makes the short bastard climbs out of Warter fade in the memory almost instantly and almost entirely.  But they're all just figments of your imagination....
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: tiptop on 22 February, 2011, 03:29:26 pm
Hi Crinkly Lion, oooh .. cake and pub stops? Sounds too good to miss, count me in (if you have enough cake?)   :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 22 February, 2011, 05:56:32 pm
Arch and I were reviewing descents, and we decided that Grimthorpe is pretty good, although the lights and the turn stop it being a 10/10 at the moment.  The zig zag down into the pastures gets extra points for the roller-coaster adrenaline rush.  Huggate down to Warter is bloody lovely although watch out for the 2 enormous potholes that mean you MUST take the centre of the road, never mind the lane, and be aware that there's a T junction and a stop line at the bottom.  Kilnwick Percy goes on forever, has decent sightlines, you can roll on through Pock without having to stop and it makes the short bastard climbs out of Warter fade in the memory almost instantly and almost entirely.  But they're all just figments of your imagination....

A very good precis.  I found the Millington descent a bit much, with the hairpins, and by bad luck, traffic.  And I had a memory malfuntion between Huggate and Warter, and then from Warter onwards where I couldn't remember if it was the same route as the Big G sportive.  The 12% Right Bastard Optical Illusion confirmed that it was, but I'd edited a mile or so of road from my memory along the way, very odd.  But the descent after the 12% Right Bastard Optical Illusion...  ;D That's why I have a trike.

I was very glad my track is as narrow as it was though - if I'd miscalulated going between those potholes, and dropped a wheel into either or both, I'd have grounded, I reckon!

Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 22 February, 2011, 06:42:01 pm
Hi Crinkly Lion, oooh .. cake and pub stops? Sounds too good to miss, count me in (if you have enough cake?)   :)

I think I can probably muster up a sufficiency  ;D

I found the Millington descent a bit much, with the hairpins, and by bad luck, traffic.
Whereas I had no traffic, and found that it reconnected me admirably with my inner, less risk-averse, teenager :)

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But the descent after the 12% Right Bastard Optical Illusion...  ;D That's why I have a trike.
S'good, innit?  I don't know if I've ridden down that before or not - I've been up it, which involved extensive use of the 24" gear.  That's the way we used to go in our teens to sit on a hill and drink cheap cider.

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I was very glad my track is as narrow as it was though - if I'd miscalulated going between those potholes, and dropped a wheel into either or both, I'd have grounded, I reckon!
It was quite impressive to see the way that your rear wheels cleared them with just an inch or two to spare!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 22 February, 2011, 09:32:09 pm
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I was very glad my track is as narrow as it was though - if I'd miscalulated going between those potholes, and dropped a wheel into either or both, I'd have grounded, I reckon!
It was quite impressive to see the way that your rear wheels cleared them with just an inch or two to spare!

<pssst>  front wheels!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting
Post by: CrinklyLion on 22 February, 2011, 09:43:20 pm
D'oh! Shouldn't do forum-ing whilst distracted with boys, bathtimes, and box set dvds!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: clarion on 22 February, 2011, 09:52:40 pm
She may have been travelling backwards at the time ;)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 22 February, 2011, 09:55:31 pm
IRTA "backwards in time".  Can a Catrike do 88mph?   ;D
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: clarion on 22 February, 2011, 10:00:17 pm
I'm sure it can. ;)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 22 February, 2011, 11:36:13 pm
We did have a conversation when we paused for a 'Catrike+Valencia at the Givendale sign' photo-opportunity
(http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183900_10150103312356839_551606838_6057401_2361224_n.jpg)
about what would happen if Arch's cunning molished-from-velcro handbrake went wrong before she got clipped in and ready to set off and she essayed a descent of Givendale Lane backwards, using the view afforded by one small rear view mirror.  The sign isn't actually quite at the top of the optical illusion you see, but it's a good excuse to stop :)

I did offer to go and stand slightly downhill and catch them if the hill start went wrong!

By the way, did we mention the scones?
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/180052_10150103312091839_551606838_6057396_3170583_n.jpg)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 23 February, 2011, 12:04:34 am
That reminds me ...
If my bar-bag turns up in time, I'll be taking my 'proper' camera with me :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: rower40 on 23 February, 2011, 09:29:32 am
By the way, did we mention the scones?
With, in the foreground, what looks like a big gravy boat to dunk them in... ;D
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 23 February, 2011, 05:34:11 pm
Oh yes, a picture:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/59866846@N02/5471075855/

Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 23 February, 2011, 07:30:43 pm
I now have some train tickets.  Rather a lot of them:

(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/random/246883407_G.sized.jpg) (http://twitpic.com/42zkgf)
(don't worry, half of those are for the Hilly 50 (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=43136.0))

Had a somewhat extensive chat about middle ear problems and motorcycle touring with the ticket office man while that lot printed out.

I also note that London Midland's enter-your-booking-number screen is still invisible to the protanopic.  I may winge at them some more.

Took the scenic route home via 45km of skoggy laney goodness.  Knee still works   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 23 February, 2011, 08:20:58 pm
That is a mighty fine collection of bits of orange cardboard!  And \o/ for still-functional knees.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: rower40 on 23 February, 2011, 08:32:35 pm
  And \o/ for still-functional knees.
+1.

Note how, even though BR is now dead & buried, its double-arrow symbol lives on.  It's even do-able in Ascii Art.

-->-
-<--

Which train company logos can be done like that?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 23 February, 2011, 08:47:56 pm
  And \o/ for still-functional knees.
+1.

Note how, even though BR is now dead & buried, its double-arrow symbol lives on.  It's even do-able in Ascii Art.

-->-
-<--

Which train company logos can be done like that?

Totally random fact time: the 'double arrow' symbol (or the 'arrows of indecision' as they seemed to be known by railwaymen) is still used because it has become a de-facto symbol for all things railway (stations etc.) to folk in the UK, whether or not they actually remember the BR era.

GNER attempted to have all traces of BR branding removed from signs etc. at York station after privatisation but were told to jog on for the very reason stated above. Double arrows=railway (station)

Personally, the only way you'd get me on a train now is under anaesthetic - just because I'm a rail enthusiast doesn't mean I have to travel on the bloody things ;)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: rower40 on 24 February, 2011, 07:04:07 am
I now have some train tickets.  Rather a lot of them:
[Photo; imp complains he's out of orange.]
(don't worry, half of those are for the Hilly 50 (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=43136.0))

I hope this isn't evidence of a LOGIC FAIL, but if you're stoking Wow's tandem at Cheam/Morden, how come you need bike reservations?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 24 February, 2011, 01:48:25 pm
Insurance against any manner of cockup that may require me to go solo.

It now seems likely that the tandem, if not Wowbagger himself, may not be in attendance, so paranoia FTW.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: andrewc on 24 February, 2011, 09:14:58 pm
Any room for an errant Scouser ?  I promise not to nick anyone's wheels (but make no such binding commitments re CL's CakeMountain)   :P
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 24 February, 2011, 10:15:03 pm
The more the merrier  :)

I do hope I don't get us all lost, mind.....
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 24 February, 2011, 10:43:58 pm
The more the merrier  :)

I do hope I don't get us all lost, mind.....
Don't worry - I'll be carrying two forms of GPS1, so if getting lost is on the agenda we might as well make a decent job of it.

1 - 'Regular' Garmin GPS and my home-brewed iPhone app. Plenty of margin for error there I reckon :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: MSeries on 24 February, 2011, 10:47:39 pm
Think I'll give this event a miss.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting
Post by: CrinklyLion on 24 February, 2011, 10:53:24 pm
Is that because of the risks of crinkly navigation, or the abundance of gps in attendance?  ;)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 24 February, 2011, 10:53:33 pm
I wonder if there's merit in organising a ride where the objective is to deliberately get as lost-with-the-aid-of-GPS as possible?

Would probably need some sort of geohashing-esque awards system for the various forms of GPS navigation artefacts - being lead onto motorway-class roads; up railway lines; into rivers; across minefields; dubious ferry-based long-cuts; dead-end sustrans paths; infinite loops and so on.  As well as the variety of exciting and unexciting ways that GPS units can fail.


Hmm...
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 24 February, 2011, 10:54:54 pm
I don't think it's really possible to get lost around there.  You may, of course, see that as a challenge.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Karla on 24 February, 2011, 10:55:55 pm
You're just saying that because you hate GPS. 
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 24 February, 2011, 10:56:45 pm
Only in the wrong hands.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Karla on 24 February, 2011, 10:57:53 pm
Ah, so you're bitter because you're a leftie.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 24 February, 2011, 10:58:24 pm
I don't think it's really possible to get lost around there.  You may, of course, see that as a challenge.
Oh it is.
After one particular nagivational facepalm on an Audax up in the Wolds more years ago than I care to remember, I came out of the control at Thixendale cafe to find that some wag had written 'L' and 'R' on the appropriate sides of my route-sheet holder ;D

For some reason, I find the distinction between left and right confusing at times, although admittedly matters have improved since I learned to drive(!)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 24 February, 2011, 11:02:33 pm
Ah, so you're bitter because you're a leftie.

That's only cos we have trouble with tin-openers.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting
Post by: CrinklyLion on 24 February, 2011, 11:11:49 pm
I can remember in infant school, in Cottingham, not being able to get the correct shoe on the  correct foot so my mum wrote an L on the left shoe and an R on the right shoe. Then I came home and asked if she could write L and R on my feet. Then someone helpfully taught me that "you write with your right".  This was not particularly helpful to (resolutely cack-handed) me.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: rower40 on 25 February, 2011, 06:37:56 am
I wonder if there's merit in organising a ride where the objective is to deliberately get as lost-with-the-aid-of-GPS as possible?

Would probably need some sort of geohashing-esque awards system for the various forms of GPS navigation artefacts - being lead onto motorway-class roads; up railway lines; into rivers; across minefields; dubious ferry-based long-cuts; dead-end sustrans paths; infinite loops and so on.  As well as the variety of exciting and unexciting ways that GPS units can fail.


Hmm...
Those on the last solstice WARTY will recall the "short cut" that I suggested across fields, over/under electric fences, past cows etc.  The chainrings of the Grasshopper work quite well as a single-track threshing machine.

"It'll be fine, it's marked on the map" isn't always the case.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: andrewc on 26 February, 2011, 06:08:21 pm
Tickets bought .  ETA York station 09:35,  and if I don't get back by 18:40 you'll have another houseguest  ;D
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: MSeries on 26 February, 2011, 07:29:21 pm
Is that because of the risks of crinkly navigation, or the abundance of gps in attendance?  ;)
I've had a better1 offer

1 hillier
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting
Post by: CrinklyLion on 27 February, 2011, 02:06:51 pm
So that gives us about 8annahalf hours to get round 55ish miles. I hope we don't have to lose the pub stop! :)

I've had a better1 offer

1 hillier

Ah. I'm really not very likely to be able to trump that offer then.  Since the first 20ish miles of this one doesn't require use of the granny ring, even for me, and is spent escaping the flatlands and heading to the nearest optical illusions of any note which we only really skirt the edges of in the next 15ish miles before reverting to crinklyflat normal :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 01 March, 2011, 02:20:16 pm
MsCharly is now seriously considering this. She's a little worried about being able to ride so far - furthest in recent history was under 30miles and she rarely rides more than 3 miles.

Will have to have a fettle at her blue bike; I don't think it's seen tarmac for months.

If we have a Kim attending, does that mean some cake needs to be of the -[wheat] variety? It is just -[wheat] or are other ingredients verboten?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 01 March, 2011, 02:59:03 pm
Wheat, what?

While I'm a fussy wossname and eschew fruity nutty things in cake, I have no problem with wheat.   :-\

(I do have all manner of digestive problems exacerbated by greasy or overly acidic foods, but if your cake's greasy or particularly acidic, you're doing it wrong.)


My intention for this ride is to a) (hopefully) get all the way round  and  b) have fun.  I'm not going to even attempt anything heroic, and I don't see it being a particularly fast ride.  There will be knee-resting breaks.  As such, I expect this'll be quite a good ride for the MsCharlys (and Postman Pierses) of this world.  If her bike's okay comfort-wise, I expect she'll be fine.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 01 March, 2011, 04:16:27 pm
That would be excellent if she did come along :)  I don't anticipate the pace being particularly fast either!  And there's a number of bail out/short cut options if she wanted.

My planned route for the day is about 55 miles in total.  The wiggly way (about 10 miles) to Stamford Bridge where we can have a stop for the public loos, to pop into the shop, maybe eat a little cake.  Then another 5 miles through Fangfoss to Bolton, where we head off to Bishop Wilton to flirt with hills and go the very wiggly way via Millington woods and the cafe there to Pock - about another 20 miles.  If it proved necessary you could cut bits of that 20 miles out, have an independant lunch stop in Pocklington and hook back up with us there for the return leg.  Or, as an emergency option if all else fails, if she gets to Pocklington and decides that she's had enough we can store the bike at my mum's (my sister will be driving through in the week and would prob bring it back) and stick her on a bus back to York!  Although, of course, that might all be a cunning plan to separate her from the prettiest blue bike ever.  Which just happens to be my size....
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 01 March, 2011, 04:22:05 pm
Sorry, Kim, I thought there'd been a thread where you mentioned denying teh wheat.

Crinkly, this is a bit of a posh ride where you have arranged stops at public loos; I thought the usual arrangement was a close evaluation of nearby hedges.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 01 March, 2011, 04:34:17 pm
His Leggship commented on the FNRttC recce run to Cleethorpes that the quality of cafe stop is critical, and that the provision of loo stops has a profound impact on the number of gurls that will join a ride, and the perceived pleasantness of the ride for said gurls.

So the fair weather+co-operative knee plan is a loo stop in SB after 10 miles, a cafe stop in Millington about 12 miles later, possibly a Tea+Pee stop at a mate's house in Pocklington about 13 miles after that, and then pop into the pub in Warthill about 13 miles after that before the last 6 or so miles back to the Den.

And we may stop elsewhere, for the eating of cake and the playing of Pooh Sticks.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 01 March, 2011, 04:59:52 pm
[...]  the last 6 or so miles back to the Den.
You may wish to inform those of us not In The Know[tm] about the location of said Den, unless there's going to be an alternative meeting point.

My first session at the physio is next week, so barring hell, damnation and/or the Rapture, I plan to be out the following weekend with the Bat Bike.

Simon
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 01 March, 2011, 05:31:20 pm
I can vouch for the quality of the loo stop in Stamford Bridge, recently refurbed.  Annoying type automatic hand washer, but you can't have everything.... Also, for those purchasing calories at the Coop, the cheese pastry twists are rather good!

I'm sorry not to be able to make this one, but I'd already planned the grand first Mother/Friend-who-happens-to-be-a-boy meeting.

My friend-who-happens-to-be-a-boy is planning to bring his bike over that weekend, in case of a possible Sunday pootle. He seems moderately keen.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: tiermat on 01 March, 2011, 06:30:52 pm
Just checked the trains, I will be arriving in York station @ 08:55, so anyone who doesn't know the way to the Crinkly den, and is arriving around that time I shall be more than happy to herd you in the right direction :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 01 March, 2011, 06:54:28 pm
Just checked the trains, I will be arriving in York station @ 08:55, so anyone who doesn't know the way to the Crinkly den, and is arriving around that time I shall be more than happy to herd you in the right direction :)
Well if all else fails I'll loiter with intent near the Shell garage at the top of Melrosegate and set off in hot pursuit should any large(ish) group of cyclists pass by. My bike will be easy to recognise - it's black. Its rider will be easy to recognise too - he's a fat bastard :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 01 March, 2011, 09:02:23 pm
Just checked the trains, I will be arriving in York station @ 08:55, so anyone who doesn't know the way to the Crinkly den, and is arriving around that time I shall be more than happy to herd you in the right direction :)
Well if all else fails I'll loiter with intent near the Shell garage at the top of Melrosegate and set off in hot pursuit should any large(ish) group of cyclists pass by. My bike will be easy to recognise - it's black. Its rider will be easy to recognise too - he's a fat bastard :)


A good plan, scuppered if CL takes them down the cyclepath... (which I suspect she won't)...
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting
Post by: CrinklyLion on 02 March, 2011, 01:02:34 am
I'll send everyone a pm about addresses and phone numbers and stuff. But not tonight because I'm knackered, and went to bed before the kids had even had tea. It would be handy to know who is planning to drive over so I can think about whether I need to think about extra parking. Right, off back to bed!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 02 March, 2011, 08:43:43 pm
Well, I sent instructions for Den location and my number to (hopefully) everyone.  If I've managed to miss you off, gizza shout!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 02 March, 2011, 11:06:32 pm
Thanks, C. 

I think I'll be cycling down to this.  Might even go via the Moors if I'm up early enough.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting
Post by: CrinklyLion on 02 March, 2011, 11:08:38 pm
Yer blinking nutter  :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 02 March, 2011, 11:10:51 pm
I'm working on a route to York which is more interesting than the A167-A168-A19, but also less familiar than the lanes route which I'm too-familiar with. 

Darlo-Osmotherley-Hawnby-Wiggy-York is the current plan.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Karla on 02 March, 2011, 11:19:50 pm
What sort of time do you plan to finish this ride?  My plan for the weekend is a club run, which will probably get back to York around half four.  By my estimation you'll be starting to head back from Pock around then?  Don't be surprised if I ride out to join you for the last bit.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 02 March, 2011, 11:35:48 pm
See, there's that 'plan' word again. 

We need to be back in York by 6:40 or andrew will be stranded and trainless.  If we can ride quick enough I thought we'd stop off at the pub in Warthill for a pint or two on the way back.  Howsabout we text you when we're setting off from Pock?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 02 March, 2011, 11:48:13 pm
I'm working on a route to York which is more interesting than the A167-A168-A19, but also less familiar than the lanes route which I'm too-familiar with. 

Darlo-Osmotherley-Hawnby-Wiggy-York is the current plan.

You could pass within shouting distance of my Auntie Ruth's house in Ingleby Arncliffe, I reckon.  She makes much better cake than me...  Actually, one day we should do a forum ride there and make her feed us! :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 03 March, 2011, 09:16:31 am
I'm working on a route to York which is more interesting than the A167-A168-A19, but also less familiar than the lanes route which I'm too-familiar with. 

Darlo-Osmotherley-Hawnby-Wiggy-York is the current plan.

You could pass within shouting distance of my Auntie Ruth's house in Ingleby Arncliffe, I reckon.  She makes much better cake than me...  Actually, one day we should do a forum ride there and make her feed us! :)

Would it be compulsory for Deano to shout?

Saturday 19th March.  The scene: Auntie Ruth's house.  Auntie Ruth is just going about her morning business when she is puzzled to hear a distant shout of "Hello Auntie Ruth", Dopler shifting to the south...

But not as puzzled as she is when, 8 hours later, 72 random cyclists turn up, demanding 'better cake'.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Karla on 03 March, 2011, 12:26:02 pm
See, there's that 'plan' word again. 

We need to be back in York by 6:40 or andrew will be stranded and trainless.  If we can ride quick enough I thought we'd stop off at the pub in Warthill for a pint or two on the way back.  Howsabout we text you when we're setting off from Pock?

That sounds like a good plan.

I noticed you talking about hills without using scare quotes earlier, now you're talking about plans.  When will this madness cease?!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: SlowCoach on 03 March, 2011, 01:45:06 pm
OK - I'm definitely on for this. Had my pass out approved last night (I've had to cook the evening meal 10 nights in a row to get it !!!) and I have rail tickets.

Unfortunately they are not on the trains I'd been planning (some git has beaten me to it and pinched the bike space both ways...) so I'll be at York by 8:30 and have to catch the 18:56 home. I was half considering joining Deano on the way down as the east coast site kept messing me around, but common sense has prevailed.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: SlowCoach on 03 March, 2011, 01:47:39 pm
Darlo-Osmotherley-Hawnby-Wiggy-York is the current plan.

How deep is the ford at Hawnby likely to be - or have they built a bridge these days. It's years since I've been there but remember getting very wet...
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 03 March, 2011, 02:22:16 pm
I feel a bit of a git about this - I'm the closest person to the station, but really can't offer parking space for bikes, cars or people. Rest of family don't usually surface until after 11 on weekends, and my pass out will be rescinded for the rest of my life if people turned up at the door at 9am.

I'll just have to bribe daughter out bed (probably with offer of bacon butty at station) and meet people at the station, methinks.  Should be able to help navigate through york to the crinklyden.

MsCharly is quite excited about this ride (warning; said state may induce squealing at times).  I gave her extra motivation last night by informing her that if she completes it, she will have ridden further than her elder brother ever has in a single day. That thought induced a Glow Of Happiness.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 03 March, 2011, 02:47:30 pm
Plenty of parking round my way but a) I'm likely on the 'wrong' side of town for most people and b) it's an extra 5-6 miles just to get into town. I can provide directions for interested parties though.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 03 March, 2011, 02:57:01 pm
Unless we end up with more than half a dozen cars, parking'll be fine in the streets round ours.  Several of the bods arriving by train have been to the den before.  It'll be reet :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 03 March, 2011, 03:01:07 pm
Tickets bought .  ETA York station 09:35

On which note, rower40 and I are due to arrive at 09:30, so we can meet up and ride over to the Den together...
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: tiermat on 03 March, 2011, 03:03:38 pm
Tickets bought .  ETA York station 09:35

On which note, rower40 and I are due to arrive at 09:30, so we can meet up and ride over to the Den together...

Might be worth myself and Mr Charly hanging around for you, I will be able to grab a coffee and stuff...
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 03 March, 2011, 03:07:02 pm
andrewc - you've been to the den before, haven't you?  And Kim and Rower40 will surely have at least 3 gps devices.  Probably each :)  What could possibly go wrong?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: rower40 on 03 March, 2011, 03:52:45 pm
And Kim and Rower40 will surely have at least 3 gps devices.  Probably each :)  What could possibly go wrong?
Oh now there's a challenge.  "Bring more GPSs than the other person..." ;)
Made more difficult if I have to know how to work them. :-[
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 03 March, 2011, 04:05:05 pm
Assuming I don't do my usual trick and get out of bed 15 minutes after everyone has left, I'll likely be stopping off at the station for a bit of pre-ride fuelling myself. As mentioned previously, I'll be easy enough to spot - a black bike with fat tyres, a fat rider and two GPS units (one of which is quite fat itself)

Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 03 March, 2011, 04:10:08 pm
my suggestion would be to gather up round at ours, aiming for a 10 o'clock kick off on the Saturday.  10 minutes pootle across York from the station, and usually a reasonable amount of free on-street parking available.  Experimentation has shown that we can fit a reasonable quantity of cyclists and their assorted steeds in and around the Den, so long as they don't all want to sit down at the same time.  Coffee, Tea, CAKE and potentially bacon butties can be provided for anyone that's early.  This has the added advantage that I theoretically shouldn't be late.  How does that sound?

To all those talking of pre-ride fuelling, might I remind you of the above?  I might not be very good at navigating, or estimating timings, or getting up the hills, and my cat-herding skills are yet to be tested (other than on chiddlers) but catering I'm reasonably confident I can do!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 03 March, 2011, 04:13:20 pm
OK - I'm definitely on for this. Had my pass out approved last night (I've had to cook the evening meal 10 nights in a row to get it !!!) and I have rail tickets.

Unfortunately they are not on the trains I'd been planning (some git has beaten me to it and pinched the bike space both ways...) so I'll be at York by 8:30 and have to catch the 18:56 home. I was half considering joining Deano on the way down as the east coast site kept messing me around, but common sense has prevailed.

Missed this before!  Not to worry, you know where we are - kettle will be on, bacon/porridge can be provided :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: jogler on 03 March, 2011, 04:33:45 pm
I can recommend the porridge :thumbsup:
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 03 March, 2011, 04:38:57 pm
Assuming I don't do my usual trick and get out of bed 15 minutes after everyone has left, I'll likely be stopping off at the station for a bit of pre-ride fuelling myself. As mentioned previously, I'll be easy enough to spot - a black bike with fat tyres, a fat rider and two GPS units (one of which is quite fat itself)


Is it the rubber-band bike? I'm looking forward to seeing this.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 03 March, 2011, 04:47:00 pm
Nah - rubber band drive (plus gears-inna-can) is Rower40.  Interzen is many-many-gears-inna-can!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 03 March, 2011, 04:55:43 pm
Nah - rubber band drive (plus gears-inna-can) is Rower40.  Interzen is many-many-gears-inna-can!
I do canned gears and fixed gears but not belt-drives - I like to fiddle with gearing too much, and belt-drive really isn't conducive to that.

I believe that there's a kit available to allow the use of rubber bands with the Alfine-11 (Alfine 11 Belt Drive Cog &laquo; Phil Wood & Co (http://philwoodco.wordpress.com/2011/02/16/alfine-11-belt-drive-cog/))
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 03 March, 2011, 05:14:41 pm
I can recommend the porridge :thumbsup:

But will you be partaking of porridge, m'dear?  Or are we only seeing you up here once next month?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: jogler on 03 March, 2011, 05:35:44 pm
I can recommend the porridge :thumbsup:

But will you be partaking of porridge, m'dear?  Or are we only seeing you up here once next month?

Not yet decided,
Yhpm
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 03 March, 2011, 06:28:25 pm
She makes much better cake than me... 

Hang on a minute.

I find this hard to believe.  How can your cake be topped? I would say, by having more of it, but there's always about half a tonne of it distributed among riders!

I'll agree that Marj's fruit cake was something special, but as you don't do fruitcake, there's no competition...

Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 03 March, 2011, 06:34:23 pm
Darlo-Osmotherley-Hawnby-Wiggy-York is the current plan.

How deep is the ford at Hawnby likely to be - or have they built a bridge these days. It's years since I've been there but remember getting very wet...

It's been a bridge for as long as I remember - except for a few years ago, when the Rye flooded and it was washed away.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 03 March, 2011, 08:11:41 pm
She makes much better cake than me... 

Hang on a minute.

I find this hard to believe.  How can your cake be topped? I would say, by having more of it, but there's always about half a tonne of it distributed among riders!

I'll agree that Marj's fruit cake was something special, but as you don't do fruitcake, there's no competition...

Well, she has a lot more practice, and a far wider range, for a start!  And she's the one I nicked the coffee cake and Mildenhall cake recipes from - although they have been adapted a bit,

And you haven't tried Marj's other cakes.  A very very fine chocolate, for a start.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: jogler on 03 March, 2011, 08:48:50 pm
& she's just recently perfected a recipe for Raspberry Oat Slices: a sort of flapjack-thing that qualifies as food of the gods. :smug:
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 03 March, 2011, 09:02:11 pm
& she's just recently perfected a recipe for Raspberry Oat Slices: a sort of flapjack-thing that qualifies as food of the gods. :smug:

Hmmm..... what are the chances of some of that making it to York or thereabouts I wonder?  I think that greedy guts me the Cubs would appreciate some  ;D
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: jogler on 03 March, 2011, 09:15:47 pm
what are the chances of the flapjacks having a life-expectancy greater than the travelling time between here & York ;)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Mobbsy on 04 March, 2011, 09:06:12 am
Me, and my boys, are still definite/maybes Crinkly. We may join for the start and wander off at some point along the way, possibly. More to follow.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 04 March, 2011, 09:33:27 am
Cool.  If you want (don't know how well you know round pocklington) I can plot you a couple of alternative routes that skip out the middle bit with the lumps (and the lunch stop, although there are plenty of options in Pock) So you could have a long break there and then join us again for the return trip.  Although that middle bit is possibly the nicest bit...  The other option - and I also wondered if this might appeal to MsCharly - if you are driving would be to drive straight to Stamford Bridge, park up and meet us there.  Then it's a 35-ish mile loop, which they might find a bit more manageable?  The only downside is that would not include the pub stop.  But you could always drive over to the pub :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: andrewc on 05 March, 2011, 11:39:56 am
andrewc - you've been to the den before, haven't you?  And Kim and Rower40 will surely have at least 3 gps devices.  Probably each :)  What could possibly go wrong?

I managed to get lost in the streets near your house though and had to ask for directions! Think I've still got the route in my GPS.
Just realised that this will be my first "proper" ride of the year  :o :o   ....
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 05 March, 2011, 11:55:21 am
I'm quite pleased that I've managed to get out for at least a half-way decent ride about 8 weekends in a row now.  Just need to get the Boy back into the habit of it now.... 

And this really isn't a difficult route, won't be fast and will be stopping plenty.  There's a few bumps on the landscape in the middle bit, but even I've managed to ride up all of them, albeit with the odd pause for breath.  The ride out to Bishop Wilton and back from Pock is flat, with the exception of a very small lump at northgate lane, even by Crinkly standards.

Right, must go and make the boy get dressed and ready to set off to Granny's.  Since the furthest he's gone since November is the school/nursery run, less than 2 miles even if they go the long way, I suspect that this might be challenging!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 05 March, 2011, 12:15:01 pm
Have a good ride!  Is it a nice day there?  It's grey in Manchester, and we're off any minute to wire up an electric car...

I wonder about the directions my life takes sometimes, but then I think, heck, just go with it....
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 06 March, 2011, 10:50:42 am
I just looked at the weather forecast on XCWeather and Metcheck for next weekend.

They're dreadfully inaccurate for a week ahead.  Aren't they?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 06 March, 2011, 01:34:48 pm
*peers*

I suppose we can hope that clarion gets his marathon winters before then...
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 06 March, 2011, 01:40:27 pm
Well, it's improved since I looked last night.  We're down to sleet and light snow, first thing in the morning and in the afternoon only, now.  With a few hours of 'fair' in the middle.  It was sleet then snow then heavy snow.

Hmmm....
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 06 March, 2011, 01:53:52 pm
I work on a believe-it-when-I-see-it basis with long range forecasts.
However, given that my boiler threw a fit last night (faulty igniter I think, so no pilot light  ???) the last thing I need is snow.

Not sure if I'll be out on Saturday either. May have to go visit a client in Lincolncestershire.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: SlowCoach on 06 March, 2011, 04:30:27 pm
You are just using the wrong forecast. I have "mostly sunny - high 22 degrees C, low 7 degrees C" for the 12th March. That sounds much better, don't you think? How do I get it ? just insert the word "Alabama" after you've typed in York  :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: SlowCoach on 06 March, 2011, 08:16:58 pm
Apologies about the weather forecast - I've just realised that I'm to blame. I stupidly thought about giving my knock knees an airing next weekend and digging out the shorts. I've realised what a folly that would be and desisted. However, apparently the mere idea of doing that has caused the weather to take a turn for the worse.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 06 March, 2011, 08:21:32 pm
I'm fairly sure it's karmic retribution for my knee still working after yesterday's abuse (https://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=43136.msg876491#msg876491).  If it wasn't knees it was going to be lungs or weather, and the lungs are currently working suspiciously well...
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 06 March, 2011, 11:06:23 pm
If it helps, my knee has been a bit dodgy all year?

I think I have sorted out the last tea stop.  Rather than faffing with a cafe, Granny Annie has invited us to make use of their gaffe in Pocklington for a tea and pee stop.  They've even had a convenient set of railings, that are remarkably convenient for chaining bikes to, put up on the front wall a few weeks back  ;D

I suggested that if we were to take advantage of this, maybe we could have a charity pot where we chuck a quid (less than a cafe would have cost) in for the use of the facilities to raise some dosh for wateraid, which is my sister's charity of the year this year.  Warning, this house contains mildly insane labradors!  Kim, I'll make them double-hoover the front room and keep the dogs out of there or something if this is likely to provoke dramatic allergic reactions.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 06 March, 2011, 11:12:06 pm
Excellent idea  :thumbsup:

Previous experience suggests that labradors of all sanity levels are likely to provoke allergic reactions, so de-dogging the room would probably be sensible.  Hopefully nothing too dramatic, unless you're thinking of using allergy to skew the karma away from lungs towards better weather?  :)

ETA: this appears to be working.  Forecast now 7-8C and dry.   :thumbsup:
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 07 March, 2011, 07:48:19 am
Hmmm... that is looking slightly less depressing, isn't it?  Right, remember your ventolin, your knee bandages and your warm layers people!

I briefly considered asking the Cub if he wanted to accompany us on Saturday's 'proper' ride, given that he cheerfully managed 20 miles on Saturday.  But then I thought about his slightly less that 6mph moving average in the first half and decided that maybe that wouldn't be ideal!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 07 March, 2011, 08:04:38 am
Having just looked at the Met Office website (I know, I know - they're the Wikipedia of forecasting) it looks like it's going to be a bit, erm, breezy towards the end of the week. If that carries over into the weekend then a 6mph moving average might seem positively luxurious :)

Simon (waiting for the gas engineer to come and give the boiler the kiss of life)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 07 March, 2011, 12:29:36 pm
Oooohhh.... my mum just rang and said that their mate, with the house that we borrowed for the tea stop on the way to Scarborough, has said we can use their place for our tea and pee stop in Pocklington on the way back :) 

Still a dog household (sorry Kim, but at least it'll make Deano happy) although significantly less hairy than my mum's house, git-loads of space to stack the bikes and my mum is threatening us with cheese scones.

Any special dietary requirements not covered by cheese scones or cake, speak now or forever hold your peace.  Or you can go to the garage next door for your frijj milkshakes and Ginsters.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: SlowCoach on 07 March, 2011, 12:55:56 pm
Having just looked at the Met Office website (I know, I know - they're the Wikipedia of forecasting) it looks like it's going to be a bit, erm, breezy towards the end of the week. If that carries over into the weekend then a 6mph moving average might seem positively luxurious :)

You are all such a load of pessimists. Look on the bright side. The Met Office haven't forecast any:

1) Earthquakes
2) Volcanic eruptions
3) Hurricanes, tornadoes, typhoons or similar cataclysmic events
4) Major flooding
5) Pestilence, plague and famine
6) The end of the world

Things could always be worse... or do the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse ride bicycles these days? If so, they are probaly welcome to join us.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 07 March, 2011, 12:59:58 pm
Oh, what's that I hear?  Is that the sound of Fate being tempted?   :P
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 07 March, 2011, 01:00:47 pm
Things could always be worse... or do the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse ride bicycles these days? If so, they are probaly welcome to join us.
Given my flirtation with the pig pox over Christmas I'm quite happy to come along dressed up as Pestilence :-)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: andrewc on 07 March, 2011, 01:08:14 pm
Things could always be worse... or do the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse ride bicycles these days? If so, they are probaly welcome to join us.
Given my flirtation with the pig pox over Christmas I'm quite happy to come along dressed up as Pestilence :-)

I think Kim has first dibs on that horse...
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 07 March, 2011, 02:55:25 pm
Well, XC and Metcheck are in agreement about no SNO for now.  Fingers crossed.

MrCharly - did you see the link upthread to the cafe menu?  Might be worth checking it for wheat-free options, just to be on th safe side.  I don't think I have a wheat-free cake recipe.  Do chocolate rice crispy cakes count, I could probably manage that?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 07 March, 2011, 02:59:18 pm
I was going to bung some of my own fuel in my saddlebag - possibly cheese flapjacks and a spicey fruit loaf, or maybe cheese and tomato bread.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 07 March, 2011, 03:27:13 pm
Well, the menu is here (http://www.ramblersrestmillington.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/TearoomMenuOct20101.pdf) and it's all a bit wheaty, but I've rung them up.  The owner said that they don't reserve tables, because they've been stung too many times by people not showing up, but if we ring from Bishop Wilton they'll try and get us a couple of tables together clear by the time we get there. 

The daytime menu is mostly of the sandwich/toasty or something on toast variety, but the soup might well be gluten free depending on which soup is on that day (and I got the impression that she actually understands properly about intolerances, because all I said was that 'one person can't eat wheat' and she said that some of the soups use flour to thicken but some are gluten-free).  They also could do you a bacon and eggs, and at least one of the specials would be wheat free - when Arch and I were there it was stuff like hot pot/pasta bake/salmon with salad.  So I'd be reasonably hopeful of finding you something to eat!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 07 March, 2011, 03:30:40 pm
Things could always be worse... or do the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse ride bicycles these days? If so, they are probaly welcome to join us.
Given my flirtation with the pig pox over Christmas I'm quite happy to come along dressed up as Pestilence :-)

I think Kim has first dibs on that horse...
Looks like I'll be coming as Famine, then  ;D
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: rower40 on 07 March, 2011, 03:41:06 pm
We did the Recumbents of the Apocolypse gags here (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=36983.msg731761#msg731761).   2/3rds (min) of the attendees there are coming this Saturday.
I'll wear my skellington top, and bring my teethgrinder appetite.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 07 March, 2011, 06:40:00 pm
Rower, do you know I once managed to take enough cake that TG said no thank you, he was full?

Edwardstone, that'll have been.

I was quite shocked.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Mobbsy on 08 March, 2011, 08:24:55 am
The status of clan Mobbsy has been downgraded from definitely/maybe to maybe/possibly.

Last Saturday we did a 50k ride that took in some of the Fountains Monk'y Business audax, including the Fountains Abbey part and managed to average about 16.5kph for the whole thing, which was nice. It is the constant moaning from son2 for the last 1/2 of any ride that is stopping me from committing. I think he has helped me make my mind up about us doing the actual Monk'y business ride too. Bless him.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: tiermat on 08 March, 2011, 09:03:11 am
Mobbsy, I get something similar from TLD, everything from "we are going too fast" to "I am getting cold now".

My replies vary from "STFU" to "STFU" :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 08 March, 2011, 09:14:27 am
We shall have to get him and the eldest cub together at some point, to see who would win in the 'whining world championships' :)

If you met us in Stamford Bridge (should be there around 11, hopefully a squeak before if we manage to set off on time!) and do the circuit from there it gives you a roughly 50km loop which includes Pooh Sticks bridge, the lunch stop and afternoon tea in Pocklington so it's in fairly manageable chunks - first third flat as a pancake, middle bit with lumps in, and the trip back to Stamford Bridge flat as a pancake again.  The lumpy bit has one bit of a climb up to Givendale- but if it's too hard for either of them I'm sure I could arrange to accompany them on the 24" gear, a steady climb up through Millington and a couple of short stabby bits after Warter, with a couple of cracking descents to compensate.

I have always found that with the EldestCub he rises well to the challenge of riding with proper cyclists, and the whinge quotient diminishes hugely if it's not just me.  But I don't know if that applies to yours!  Alternatively, if you just wanted a nice easy sociable pootle with them you could always join us on the planets path on Sunday.  Flat and traffic free run out to Naburn for a pub lunch, then (depending on time, weather and whether we can be arsed) possibly out to the outer planets and back, or possibly just back home.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: SlowCoach on 08 March, 2011, 12:50:12 pm
The whinge from my daughter when we used to drag her out cycling with the family was "Cycling would be ok if you would remove all the uphill bits, all the downhill bits and all the flat bits - I don't mind doing the rest..."
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 08 March, 2011, 01:04:39 pm
That'll be the CAKE then?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: SlowCoach on 08 March, 2011, 01:09:58 pm
That just about sums it up.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 08 March, 2011, 03:44:39 pm
Weather forecast has changed.

It's now 11C maximum, possible rain in the afternoon. Winds southerly F3-4, gusty in the morning.

So, not too cold, no sleet, no ice, and crosswinds.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 08 March, 2011, 05:50:23 pm
Alternatively, if you just wanted a nice easy sociable pootle with them you could always join us on the planets path on Sunday.  Flat and traffic free run out to Naburn for a pub lunch, then (depending on time, weather and whether we can be arsed) possibly out to the outer planets and back, or possibly just back home.

That looking like a definite plan then?  My friend-who-happens-to-be-a-boy (hereafter to be known as mfwhtbab (catchy, eh?) is threatening to bring his KMX over.  ;D
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: jogler on 08 March, 2011, 05:54:47 pm
It would perhaps be more catchy Arch if mfwhtbab was referred to as L.F..
'cause he is a lucky fella
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 08 March, 2011, 06:01:58 pm
That looking like a definite plan then?  My friend-who-happens-to-be-a-boy (hereafter to be known as mfwhtbab (catchy, eh?) is threatening to bring his KMX over.  ;D

Well, me'n'zak have promised to take Kim to see the Solar system, so we're in :)  Is yfwhtbab a bit taller?  Would he let Kim have a go on his kmx round the stunt park at the Sun?  
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 08 March, 2011, 07:25:15 pm
Tiermat, I now have Monsoon Malabar ready and waiting in yout honour :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: tiermat on 08 March, 2011, 07:33:12 pm
Tiermat, I now have Monsoon Malabar ready and waiting in yout honour :)

\o/ DOUBLEYAY!!!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 08 March, 2011, 07:41:37 pm
That looking like a definite plan then?  My friend-who-happens-to-be-a-boy (hereafter to be known as mfwhtbab (catchy, eh?) is threatening to bring his KMX over.  ;D

Well, me'n'zak have promised to take Kim to see the Solar system, so we're in :)  Is yfwhtbab a bit taller?  Would he let Kim have a go on his kmx round the stunt park at the Sun?  
If he does, and I'm available, I want to be there with the Bad-Ass Camera[tm]  ;D
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: tiermat on 08 March, 2011, 07:49:11 pm
Tiermat, I now have Monsoon Malabar ready and waiting in yout honour :)

\o/ DOUBLEYAY!!!

Especially so as the McArthur Glen store had none on Saturday, so I had to do without and will still have do without until I get home on Friday (ordered some from Coffeebeanshop instead :) )
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 08 March, 2011, 09:41:03 pm
Well, me'n'zak have promised to take Kim to see the Solar system, so we're in :)  Is yfwhtbab a bit taller?  Would he let Kim have a go on his kmx round the stunt park at the Sun?  

This sounds suspiciously like some sort of conspiracy to add to my scar collection...   ::-)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: jogler on 08 March, 2011, 09:45:59 pm
I don't think it would be sensible to do a ride of approx 80km & the attendant travelling with the remnants of lurgy so I'll not be attending.
I expect this will ensure that I'm goodtogo for the Mountains Funky Business later in the month.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 08 March, 2011, 09:57:47 pm
I don't think it would be sensible to do a ride of approx 80km & the attendant travelling with the remnants of lurgy so I'll not be attending.
:( But probably wise....

Quote
I expect this will ensure that I'm goodtogo for the Mountains Funky Business later in the month.
:thumbsup:
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 08 March, 2011, 10:44:40 pm
That looking like a definite plan then?  My friend-who-happens-to-be-a-boy (hereafter to be known as mfwhtbab (catchy, eh?) is threatening to bring his KMX over.  ;D

Well, me'n'zak have promised to take Kim to see the Solar system, so we're in :)  Is yfwhtbab a bit taller?  Would he let Kim have a go on his kmx round the stunt park at the Sun?  

He's a bit taller than me yes.  Although we have fairly similar leg lengths, proving that even someone as stumpy as me conforms to the 'women have proportionately longer legs' thing. (We compared legs on Sunday when he was fettling the KMX. We were standing side by side, hip to hip, discussing relative groin height, when his Dad wandered out into the garden.  Not sure what he thought we were doing....  Actually, I needed the boom in by a couple of inches - partly due to wearing much thinner soled shoes.)

I'm sure he could be prevailed upon to let it be played with, gently.  Poor thing, it's had a broken back once already (before he owned it). This explains the length of bunk bed tubing included in the main frame.

Jogler, you smoothie... ;)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 09 March, 2011, 10:04:32 am
It occurs to me that I have nowhere near enough cake in my freezer.  Obviously I need cake-without-silly-fruit-and-nuts-in for Kim, so that's a batch of St Clements to do.  And I seem to have a lot of bananananananananas to use up, so a chocolate and bananananananananana batch seems to be in order.  And I got lots of CCCBs when I went shopping for Monsoon Malabar, so I guess a coffee cake or two.

Will that be enough, do you think?

*looks at work schedule for week, and wonders where baking time is going to fit*
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: jogler on 09 March, 2011, 10:06:18 am
, and wonders where baking time is going to fit*

0100 to 0200hrs as B4?  :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 09 March, 2011, 05:24:14 pm

*looks at work schedule for week, and wonders where baking time is going to fit*

"Hello? Is that work? Yes, it's CrinklyLion here. <cough> I'm really <cough> ill I'm <cough sneeze> afraid, and <hacking cough, sneeze, rasping wheeze> won't be in.

Yes, sorry, <cough> anyway, must go, the oven timer's pinging..."
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 09 March, 2011, 08:29:34 pm
I think that I've had 3 sick days in 5 years in this job.  And two of those were migraine-esque headache due to being over-tired from working too hard whilst pregnant, which of course meant that there was bugger all meds that I could take.

Although I genuinely do have a bit of a poorly knee at the moment.  I'm counting this as a good thing, and hoping that it might ward off the ice age and the need for excessive use of inhalers.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 09 March, 2011, 08:46:57 pm
I hope my plans aren't going to scupper the weather - my mother is coming on a coach trip. This may be ok, or it may be that we spend the whole afternoon huddling together while scudding from coffee to tea in a blizzard.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 09 March, 2011, 08:51:48 pm
Okay, it seems that Postman Piers is pulling out, on the basis that he'll just fall apart his new car hasn't got a tow ball for his bike carrier.

Meanwhile, I'm seriously considering bringing the 'bent.  For SCIENCE.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 09 March, 2011, 08:54:06 pm
And I'd only just had the conversation with the SmallestCub that it was 3 more sleeps til Kim comes to visit, but that she wasn't bringing her green bike and would have one that only had the usual amount of chain!

In other news - disaster strikes!  I haz no SR flour.

Perhaps I should go to the shop.....
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: rower40 on 09 March, 2011, 09:25:00 pm
I'd meant to bring the rubber-band bike, but if Kim's on the Streetmachine, and now that my Grasshopper's brakes aren't binding any more, it'd be rude not to... :thumbsup:

Kim - PM or text as you leave the house plz, so that I can bring an appropriate steed.  And we can freak out the guard on the X-country train.  kthx.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: jogler on 09 March, 2011, 09:28:18 pm


In other news - disaster strikes!  I haz no SR flour.


 :o
hellsbells
that's like saying Egypt has no sand
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 09 March, 2011, 09:34:47 pm
Kim - PM or text as you leave the house plz, so that I can bring an appropriate steed.  And we can freak out the guard on the X-country train.  kthx.

*giggle*

It'd be worth it for that.

Will do.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 09 March, 2011, 09:40:20 pm
And Dearly_Beloved has eaten all the plain chocolate (in fairness, I already knew that but had forgotten!) and I just realised that the MICL used half of the tub of dairy-intolerance-friendly marg, which is necessary for one sort of cake.  This is not going to plan!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Butterfly on 09 March, 2011, 11:40:51 pm
I think that I've had 3 sick days in 5 years in this job.  And two of those were migraine-esque headache due to being over-tired from working too hard whilst pregnant, which of course meant that there was bugger all meds that I could take.

Although I genuinely do have a bit of a poorly knee at the moment.  I'm counting this as a good thing, and hoping that it might ward off the ice age and the need for excessive use of inhalers.

I read that as Meringue-ache  :-[. I thought that might be cake related illness ;D.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 10 March, 2011, 10:19:22 am
I appear to have caught poorly-knee-itis off Kim over the interwebs  :o

Good job there's no hills on Saturday.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 10 March, 2011, 10:28:48 am
It's the walking. It's bad for you.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: interzen on 10 March, 2011, 10:30:40 am
Best thing to do is keep the knee joint mobile - I've got a couple of bikes that might be able to help you do that :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 10 March, 2011, 12:23:10 pm
I appear to have caught poorly-knee-itis off Kim over the interwebs  :o

Good job there's no hills on Saturday.

No, no hills at all. Or only downhills...

I hope it clears up soon!

Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: SlowCoach on 10 March, 2011, 12:26:26 pm
Things could always be worse... or do the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse ride bicycles these days? If so, they are probaly welcome to join us.
Given my flirtation with the pig pox over Christmas I'm quite happy to come along dressed up as Pestilence :-)
I spoke too soon. I saw War, Pestilence and Famine last night and had a drink in the bar with Famine - he might have been interested in coming out for the ride, but unfortunately already has an appointment in Hull on Saturday evening.

(ok - it was a show we went to see - an almost distant relation was playing the part of Famine - we went to see him perform)

It's a bit breezy out there today - I'm scouring the internet for a forecast which will confirm that the weekend will be perfection - weatherwise, but I'm not doing too well so far. Perhaps I should just make up my own forecast and believe that.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 10 March, 2011, 04:55:22 pm
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/196557_10150114979031839_551606838_6162023_6501127_n.jpg) (http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/dayforecast.asp?zipcode=pocklington&day=2)

(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/190031_10150114979326839_551606838_6162027_1359335_n.jpg) (http://www.xcweather.co.uk/forecast/pocklington)

I s'pose it does look a bit on the warm side for me.....

Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 10 March, 2011, 05:38:31 pm
The first thing I looked at is what I thought all cyclists look at first - the wind speed and direction.  Not ideal for a ride from Darlo to York :-\
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 10 March, 2011, 05:39:10 pm
I should have added (as I usually do) - it's too early to look at the forecast yet anyway.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: tiermat on 10 March, 2011, 05:40:24 pm
The first thing I looked at is what I thought all cyclists look at first - the wind speed and direction.  Not ideal for a ride from Darlo to York :-\

Just think of the homeward leg tho'!!!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 10 March, 2011, 05:41:29 pm
Since I've 200 km the next day, I'll be getting the train back ::-)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: tiermat on 10 March, 2011, 05:51:15 pm
I am still dithering about whether to drive or train it.

If I drive I can offer you a lift from NA to York and back again.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 10 March, 2011, 09:32:07 pm
My word, Valencia handles most oddly with one Ortlieb back roller full of all my work stuff, with a couple of boxes of porridge wedged in on top, and the other pannier full of 3kg flour, 2kg sugar, 2kg of marg/butter, couple of litres of OJ, 1kg of chocolate, couple of kg of dried fruit and some other bits and bobs.  With lots of eggs precariously balanced on top.  I suspect that my rack isn't technically meant to carry that much weight....

I can do baking now!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 10 March, 2011, 09:47:52 pm
Yay \o/

TBH, most racks are rated for something well in excess of 20kg, and it's actually quite hard to exceed that without the aid of lead-acid batteries or Altura panniers.  Maybe if you filled the panniers to the brim with loose milk?  ;)

That said, I doubt even the legendarily stable Streetmachine would handle normally with that much weight on one side.  (I'm going to have to try that now, aren't I?)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 10 March, 2011, 09:49:21 pm
I am still dithering about whether to drive or train it.

If I drive I can offer you a lift from NA to York and back again.

I'm looking forward to the ride down!  I'd just be looking forward to it even more without headwinds for 55 miles.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 10 March, 2011, 09:57:55 pm
Yay \o/

TBH, most racks are rated for something well in excess of 20kg, and it's actually quite hard to exceed that without the aid of lead-acid batteries or Altura panniers.  Maybe if you filled the panniers to the brim with loose milk?  ;)

That said, I doubt even the legendarily stable Streetmachine would handle normally with that much weight on one side.  (I'm going to have to try that now, aren't I?)

The work pannier (laptop, charger, random cablage, spare clothes, shoes, tool kit, bike tools, spare tubes'n'stuff, not-very-waterproof, random disks/software/bits of paper etc etc etc) wasn't all that much lighter than the shopping tbh....
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 10 March, 2011, 10:00:57 pm
Yay \o/

TBH, most racks are rated for something well in excess of 20kg, and it's actually quite hard to exceed that without the aid of lead-acid batteries or Altura panniers.  Maybe if you filled the panniers to the brim with loose milk?  ;)


That's certainly an unorthodox way to carry milk.  It'd certainly be homogenised by the time you got home.  Or butter.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Karla on 10 March, 2011, 10:46:01 pm
The club are riding out east on Saturday, so I'll be in the same area as you.  I'll probably stop in Pock on the way back and hang around until you turn up.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 11 March, 2011, 08:05:51 pm
Plans for tomorrow - as I understand it, I'm going to the station sometime before 9:30, to meet up with some people (anyone have a list?), and escorting them to the CrinklyDen.

Bikes are in a sortofish running order, lets hope for less wind and a fine day.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: tiermat on 11 March, 2011, 08:15:53 pm
Plans for tomorrow - as I understand it, I'm going to the station sometime before 9:30, to meet up with some people (anyone have a list?), and escorting them to the CrinklyDen.

Bikes are in a sortofish running order, lets hope for less wind and a fine day.

I will be at station around 9, shall oiter around Starbucks until 9:30 ish, will be on a grey Ridley, nearly all in black apart from my KOTM YACF jersey.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Mobbsy on 11 March, 2011, 08:28:03 pm
We will not be attending tomorrow. Have fun everyone. Enjoy the cake. See you next time.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: andrewc on 11 March, 2011, 08:33:33 pm
I'd planned to use my Orbit tomorrow, so fitted new tyres last night. Just checked and  the front ones flat  :(   Too lazy to fix it tonight so I shall be riding the Thorn Nomad instead.   

Should be at the station approx 9:30.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 11 March, 2011, 08:43:56 pm
Well, my knee's being clicky and useless tonight, but that's not the failure mode that I'm concerned about, and can be managed with the good pharmaceuticals if it becomes a problem.  I'm completely lacking in energy, but maybe I'll find some by tomorrow morning.

So in the interest of SCIENCE, headwind both ways, my wrist still being a bit funny since the Hilly 50, and not wanting to disappoint SmallestCub (who we've previously established, *really* likes that bike (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=39297.msg747325#msg747325)), I'm going to be lying down on the job.  I assume that means that rower40 will be doing the same (PM in the post...).

I expect we may therefore be difficult to spot at York station, so it's a good thing tiermat's going to be wearing a distinctive jersey.   ;)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 11 March, 2011, 09:03:26 pm
Plans for tomorrow - as I understand it, I'm going to the station sometime before 9:30, to meet up with some people (anyone have a list?), and escorting them to the CrinklyDen.

Bikes are in a sortofish running order, lets hope for less wind and a fine day.

MrCharly, I suspect that catherding from the station might not be necessary.  'Slow'coach is getting in early, but knows the way to the Den.  Tiermat at around 9, Rower40 and Kim at 9:30, with andrewc a few minutes later - Tiermat knows the way here and andrewc has been here once.

Not sure about tiptop - she may be staying in York tonight, or may be coming tomorrow.

Deano knows the way to the cake, I'm assuming interzen knows how to find us being a local, Mr Bunbury might meet us en route and knows where the Den is anyway and I'll already be here.

If you want to come straight here, a bit early, I can do your lass a bacon buttie if that would help with the motivation to get up and out!

We will not be attending tomorrow. Have fun everyone. Enjoy the cake. See you next time.
Sorry to hear that.  Another time?  And, as I said, you and the boys would be more than welcome to join us for a leisurely pootle to the pub on Sunday.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 11 March, 2011, 09:06:30 pm
With apologies for going OT a little, is there a plan for Sunday?  I realise it depends on knees and weather and stuff, but is it probably heading to Naburn for a pub lunch?  Not too early a start presumably.  11ish?  We just have to logisticate getting to the Secret Bunker, fetching trikes etc.

I hope you have a fab ride tomorrow anyway. I'll be there in spirit.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 11 March, 2011, 09:07:59 pm
With apologies for going OT a little, is there a plan for Sunday?  I realise it depends on knees and weather and stuff, but is it probably heading to Naburn for a pub lunch?  Not too early a start presumably.  11ish?  We just have to logisticate getting to the Secret Bunker, fetching trikes etc.

I hope you have a fab ride tomorrow anyway. I'll be there in spirit.

Yeah, I reckon we have a chance of being in a state to head out by 11-ish.  The Blacksmith's Arms gets fairly busy, but we can always drink lots of fizzy pop while we're waiting :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 12 March, 2011, 02:17:29 am
Right, I have chocolate and nanaba cake finished, coffee cake just needs filling/chocolate coating/coffee-bean-ing, Kim-friendly St Clements cake is in the fridge, chocolate buns baked but need decorating, rather large Mildenhall cake needs to finish cooling and get chopped into 8, and 2 sorts of experimental flapjack are cooling in the kitchen.

I don't think we'll starve.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 12 March, 2011, 06:13:06 am
It's the sleep deprivation that's going to get us, isn't it?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: andrewc on 12 March, 2011, 06:18:38 am
Mumble......wha....who's daft idea was it to get up this early ? .....groan.....
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: tiermat on 12 March, 2011, 06:20:41 am
You are not alone Andrew, I am awake and the bike is fettled (proper mudguards fitted) and clothes sorted out.

Just having brekkie, will have a shower then off to station.

Wooooohooooo I am going on a pootle :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 12 March, 2011, 07:02:46 am
Mumble...Mutter...Yawn.  Right, better go to the shop.  And get dressed.  And drink coffee.



Maybe not in that order.
Wonder if Deano is tackling the headwind, or if he decided to let the train take the strain....
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 12 March, 2011, 07:39:22 am
On the train. The dangly bike spaces are suspiciously clean and have a full set of straps for tying the wheel down.  Very nice of CrossCountry to arrange that for us, I think.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: tiermat on 12 March, 2011, 07:41:27 am
There is a coffee here if you want it CL :)

Just finishing my coffee, then off to station and then on to York.

Do you realise that this is a Kat and Kim ride? Kath & Kim - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kath_and_kim)

Maybe we should all take the time to talk in Aussie accents today :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: MSeries on 12 March, 2011, 07:48:36 am

Do you realise that this is a Kat and Kim ride? Kath & Kim - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kath_and_kim)

I did, when I wrote in on my diary I chuckled to myself. You pack of chunts
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting
Post by: SlowCoach on 12 March, 2011, 08:03:57 am
On the train and it's sunny!!! What's gone wrong?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 12 March, 2011, 08:14:26 am
Shhh.... don't let on, but the wind seems to have dropped a fair bit too.

Right, coffee cake - tick!
Mildenhall cake - tick!
Chocolate and banananananana cake - tick!
Flapjack with fruity bits - tick!
Flapjack without fruity bits - tick!
Orange and lemon cake - tick!

Just the chocolate cake to finish.  Then I probably ought to get dressed!  'Slow'coach - if I'm in the bath when you get here, Zak knows where all the coffee stuff is, bacon's in the fridge and the boys can show you where to find bread/porridge :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 12 March, 2011, 09:33:11 am
I love this place - where else would a lady say "I might be in the bath when you arrive, but the kids will sort you out for breakfast...."

Have fun everyone.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 12 March, 2011, 10:45:02 am
I woke up at 5 this morning with a really sore throat and a cough and the beginnings of a cold, so I'm having an easy day at home today, saving myself for 200 km tomorrow.  Hope everyone has a canny ride.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: andrewc on 12 March, 2011, 12:10:13 pm
The assembled lunatics are playing Pooh Sticks..
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Karla on 12 March, 2011, 12:36:02 pm
I woke up at 5 this morning with a really sore throat and a cough and the beginnings of a cold, so I'm having an easy day at home today, saving myself for 200 km tomorrow.  Hope everyone has a canny ride.
Funnily enough I'm doing exactly the same (minus the 200km tomorrow.)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: andrewc on 12 March, 2011, 07:00:28 pm
Just made my train home, "bike space" full of babies, so it's wedged in the doorway. Thanks to CrinklyLion for a lovely day out and CAKE. Thanks to everybody else for the company and the fast ride back to the station.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 12 March, 2011, 07:01:58 pm
Yay!  Back at the den, din't lose anyone or have any CrinklyNavigation moments, zero mechanicals, sunshine! Coffee/bacon butties/chocolate bike cup cakes before we set off, moar cake in Stamford Bridge, pooh sticks at the bridge on snake lane, the temp traffic lights have gone from grimthorpe, nice food and quick service in millington, they've filled the craters on the huggate to warter road, Kim hit 45.9mph down Kilnwick Percy hill, Granny Annie made us cheese scones for the tea stop in Pock, MsCharly rode further than she ever has in a day and got her first ever half-century, and a round of 3 pints, 2 halves and 2 soft drinks in the pub in Warthill cost less than  9 quid.

So long as andrewc made it to the station in time for his train (fingers crossed) I'm going to count that as a success.

ETA - cross post with andrewc!
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 12 March, 2011, 07:23:25 pm
Brilliant!  Sounds like a fabulous day out. ;D

Before you collapse into a victorious post-ride, leader's stupor, any arrangments for tomorrow? I was wondering if we could meet you at the Millennium Bridge, in order to minimise road cycling for mfwhtbab, who's not ridden the trike in traffic much, if at all.

Any idea of a good time?  11-11.15 perhaps?

Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 12 March, 2011, 07:43:35 pm
Hi Arch, yes 11/11.15ish is good.  Meet you on the bridge?  If it's not wet Dearly_Beloved and SmallestCub are going to come along too - they'll probably only go to the pubbe in Naburn, then head home after lunch.  Kim'n'me'CrinklyCub may go and explore the outer planets depending on knees, weather, lungs and time.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 12 March, 2011, 07:56:07 pm
Cool.  I suspect we'll be just doing the pub, unless mfwhtbab finds a store of cycling strength he didn't know it had - anyway, he has to get back to Manchester tomorrow evening, and there's trike/car logisticating to do, so we'll be loosely watching the clock.

He's also hoping the KMX doesn't collapse!  But he's sewn a very fetching flag for it, with a design that borders on a Star Wars theme....

See you at the Bridge.  I'll text if anything goes awry.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: tiermat on 12 March, 2011, 08:06:39 pm
I have just got back, eaten tea and put TLD to bed.

A Grand Day Out, Gromit!

Tea/coffee and cake in abundance (including confusing the poor girl at the cafe by asking for a cafetiere for two, but only one mug!)

No mechanicals? ahem, what about the Tiermat's curse of YACF rides? I lost yet another mudguard bolt......

Ups, downs and roundabouts, one ranty road rage bloke and me getting major shimmy on the same downhill that Kim got >46mph on!!!!

Ended with myself and Tiptop flying through the villages back towards York, she headed off to Fulford and I shot down Hull Road to catch a train that was 1) full of noisy, obnoxious teenagers and 2) had two people sat on the seats in bike area, I soon sorted that :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 12 March, 2011, 08:21:41 pm
Hey, CrinklyLion!  You ORGANISED a ride!   ;)

And I have a target to aim for down Kilnwick Percy....
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 12 March, 2011, 08:29:14 pm
A really big THANK YOU to CrinklyLion for a wonderfully organised ride. Not only stops in all the best places, but a seemingly unlimited supply of cake, including some stupendous fairy cakes complete with icing bicycles.

MsCharly is soaking in the bath. She made it through the three stages; Ok, I can do this | What am I doing here, why did you make me come, this is horrible | Oh, this isn't so bad, I could go on for a few more hours.

Actually, when she reached the last stage, she expressed disappointment that we didn't have camping gear with us so we could just not bother going home, but carry on riding.

Due to lack of cycle computers, I can't be certain of speed, but I applied the brakes at the point that I couldn't see 'cause my eyes were full of tears, and she was still pulling away from me. At least over 60Kph, I reckon. She's something of a fearless descender, that girl.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: rower40 on 12 March, 2011, 10:24:33 pm
Oh What A Perfect Day - I'm Glad I Spent It With You.

An excellent ride with some all-too-real Optical Illusions.   Lovely cake, great company, fine views, some Darkside-friendly descents at R17-and-then-some.

A moment of giggles on the train: a passenger boarded with a BSO at Sheffield; as we approached Leeds, he went to the wrong end of the carriage and was most confused when there was no bike there.  Coincidence - as my train home called at Leeds, he got on - again with the same BSO!

Kim and I met andrewc, mrcharly and mscharly, and tiermat at the station, then made our way (with a minor mechanical on mscharly's Mercian - rear wheel skewer a bit loose causing the wheel to jam against the frame) to the CrinklyDen, where we met the others, and the opening salvo of CAKE occurred.  Chocolate Buttons and portions of CurlyWurly (now I recognise CrinklyLion's avatar) represented bikes on the toppings of Chocolate (HUGE) muffins.

It all gets a bit hazy after that.  Which is why the GPS can remember what we did much better than I can.  Though there was a HUGE scone with double-deck strawberries and cream consumed at the tea-room in Millington.  And some delicious coffee and home-made scones at the Pock stop.

Then we played "mine's brighter than yours" on the way back from the pub.

I was exceptionally lucky on the ride back to York station from the Den.  Arriving at the station at 1848, the 1844 to Bristol was still on the departures board, and I arrived on the platform just as the train pulled in, having shared the lifts with a family who also wanted the same train.  No other dangly-bike-space occupants.  (Except the BSO referred to above, a bit later!)

Thanks everyone for putting up with me, and esp. Kat for sorting it all so brilliantly.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: tiermat on 13 March, 2011, 08:23:12 am
CAKE OF THE DAY! :)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_qiccGaSOyOs/TXx81qBJfuI/AAAAAAAAAvs/hT-hUniUVaQ/s640/12-3-11%20bike%20ride%20012.JPG)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Arch on 13 March, 2011, 08:44:45 am
Ah, the Millington scones were as good as ever then?

I'm just in the process of pottering about making ever greater noises-off to drive mfwhtbab out of bed and into a conscious state.  I may resort to the offer of a bacon sandwich shortly.

Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: andrewc on 13 March, 2011, 01:24:11 pm
That was the longest ride I've done since Oct/Nov last year.  I'm a bit stiff this morning, and not in a good way...

Some pictures..

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5212/5522055029_cabdd65f7a_z.jpg)

The first cake stop

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5098/5522055263_5d78c41fcd_z.jpg)

Smiley,

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5257/5522645306_94f5d66352_z.jpg)

YACF Pooh Sticks Championship 2011

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5013/5522056195_a19a6a44a5_z.jpg)

Rapt attention

(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5173/5522057007_9224092ccc_z.jpg)

MrCharly practices Seiza while MsCharly and Tiptop look on
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: SlowCoach on 13 March, 2011, 08:36:28 pm
An excellent day out. Thanks everyone for the company - and thank you Crinkly Lion for not getting us lost (well - you may well have done, but you've offered so many route variations that no-one would have had any idea if we'd been on a non-planned detour...).

I came home suitably stuffed with cake that it set me up nicely for today's exploratory audax. It's some time since I've managed two separate trips in a weekend - perhaps I'll have to try this more often. I hope to see some of you at Wigginton for the Fountains' Monky-business in a fortnight's time.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 14 March, 2011, 12:39:58 pm
I know I usually jabber on loads after rides prepare carefully and lovingly crafted ride reports, but it's been a mad busy weekend, including getting bugger all sleep on Friday due to baking and then staying up 'til late o'clock on Saturday night nattering whilst watching Kim fettle and, to be honest, Saturday's ride is all a bit of a blur.  

So thank you everyone for coming (in some cases frankly silly distances) just to do my "boring old ride that I do every week to Pocklington" - although I don't often do the mildly lumpy middle section on the roads of my childhood.  I do like the way that riding the same roads with different people lets you see them in a different light sometimes, and actually all the bits between Bolton and Pocklington are rather fine IMO.  

I had a great time.  The cat-herding wasn't stressful in the slightest, although I do think that the cats were remarkably well behaved and not too numerous which probably helped.  It was extremely bizarre to spend so much time at the front, which is not a place I'm often found on a forum ride.  I, of course, have the slight disadvantage of having absolutely no chance of powering off to the front to catch up with wayward strays if I drop back....  which led to the one and only wrong turn of the day when I got separated from the couple of people who were a bit ahead by a bus that pulled out from a bus stop in Osbaldwick - they went straight on, not left, when we were very nearly back at the end of the day.  So we took the alternate road and went off-route for all of a couple of hundred yards - I don't think that's bad going.  Remarkably benevolent weather given the forecast earlier in the week of light sleet followed by heavy sleet followed by snow followed by heavy snow - a bit blustery at times, mildly irritating to have to actually pedal from Huggate to Warter into the wind, but with just a little bit of perfectly timed rain which gave us the perfect excuse to stop at the Agar Arms in Warthill (eminently drinkable Sam Smiths for £1.50 a pint - s'good up north!) and when we came out of the pub it was sunny again.  Cafe was grand, and warm enough weather to eat outside was a bonus.  The road out through Murton was a bit busier than usual but not dreadful.

Best bits?  Riding with some familiar faces, tiptop coming out to play again, MsCharly's first forum ride and finding again how welcoming YACFers are to newcomers, getting Kim onto roads-not-in-Birmingham were all good.  Kilnwick Percy (and watching Kim disappearing at frankly silly speed into the distance down it) was a bit special - as was the grin on the darksiders' faces when we finally caught up with them.  Millington Pastures were delightful.  Scones and coffee and gossip with my mum and sister.  Snake lane, and all the lanes round Bishop Wilton, which were incredibly quiet and where the sun came out.  Pooh Sticks Corner (I won!).  Not breaking Kim was a definite win  :thumbsup:  MsCharly getting round the whole lot with apparent good cheer despite the foot cramp, and still having the legs to power off with her dad at a fair old lick to guide andrewc and 'Slow'coach across town to the station in time for trains.  And I'm quite chuffed that she's apparently talking about tackling some more, even longer, rides.  Loads of stuff really - it was just a lovely chilled out day.  A lot of my teachers mark work with '3 stars and a wish' - three things you got right, and one thing to improve.  I think we got a lot of stuff right, but a couple of things I can think of would have been an improvement.  One is that is probably would have made it an easier day for MsCharly if we had thought to give her a chance to follow someone steady's wheel and get a bit of a tow, especially on the windy bits - the thought occurred to us on the return, but following me isn't really a goer (depite my considerable windbreak potential to shorter riders) as I'm a rubbish wheel to follow because I'm a bit erratic and generally crap at riding my bike!  Secondly, that I decided against taking my camera because I've never really managed to take pictures on the move and figured I'd have enough to be thinking about so I only took two photographs - cake at the beginning
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/199475_10150117625686839_551606838_6188108_7345891_n.jpg)
and beer near the end (apologies for truly dreadful camera phone pic)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/190626_10150118050161839_551606838_6192872_3082890_n.jpg)

(I might have practised the photography a bit the next day - will try and do a RR when I finally get them to upload!)

ETA - and indeed, I have (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=45150.msg885295#msg885295).
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: rower40 on 14 March, 2011, 03:28:40 pm
Oh dear.  What AM I doing in the backround to that last photo?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: andrewc on 14 March, 2011, 03:33:34 pm
After a good ride there's nothing like finishing off with a nice shandy...
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 14 March, 2011, 05:22:09 pm
Well, the lungs, knees and weather were all in our favour...   :thumbsup:

I decided to risk bringing the Streetmachine for this one, as it seemed like a good opportunity to see how the knee performed with it on a longer ride - I knew I was going to be a bit slow (apart from the fast bits), but it wasn't going to be the fast kind of ride, so that wouldn't be a problem.  In the end, while I found the climbs to be incredibly hard work due to The Wrong Kind Of Bent Legs, I got through the whole ride with little more than mild aching from the knee.

I caught the Early o'clock train from Mordor Central, and discovered the cleanest CrossCountry dangly bike space I've ever seen.  They appeared to have fitted a brand new set of fully-functional ratchet straps for restraining the lower wheel, too.  The novelty factor of this was beaten only by rower40 joining the train at Derby to put his Grasshopper in the other side.  That's probably the last place you'd expect to find an HPVelotechnik convention, but the guard hardly raised an eyebrow.

Once andrewc arrived we set a course for the CrinklyDen, taking in the first mechanical of the day (MsCharly's upper limit screw was in need of a tweak - with friction shifting it's actually important), and discovered a house overflowing with cyclists, CrinklyCubs and all manner of cake.  Two confused examples of Felis catus looked on from a safe distance.

We loaded cakes into stomachs and panniers, MsCharly's gears were adjusted, and we set off.  The first part of the ride was delightfully flat (I don't get to ride on properly flat roads very often, so that's always a novelty), and took in some lovely lanes and a couple of reasonably sensible cycle paths.  There was a single silly Sustrans gate, but it was the kind that could be negotiated in hobby-horse mode with the mirror retracted, so not too annoying.  We stopped after 16km at Stamford Bridge for CAKE and use of the facilities:

(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/york2011-03/PICT0289.sized.jpg)
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/york2011-03/PICT0290.sized.jpg)

Off again, through Fangfoss, and a stop at Ings Bridge for Pooh Sticks.  This one's a bit deceptive, as although the water's nice and fast-flowing, there's all sorts of potential for stuck stick issues.  CrinklyLion won, but consensus was that I still hold the title of YACF champion as Wowbagger wasn't in attendance.  I'm evidently going to have to work on my technique, possibly taking note of CrinklyCub's highly effective scientific stick-choice method.

After that, the flatness stopped.  Gently at first, then round the corner and 110m of Proper Climbing up Givendale.  Several of us opted for the 24" gear - a technique ill-suited for tackling long climbs on a under-seat steering recumbent, so I made use of the silly low gear and span my way up.  The sun had come out, which combined with spinning at 90rpm for an awesome speed of 4.5mph made me very hot indeed.  I had to stop halfway to remove some layers, at which point I realised my layer-stowing space was occupied by cake, necessitating a defrag of the contents of my rack bag.

(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/york2011-03/PICT0295.sized.jpg)

I eventually made it to the top without any knee disasters, but with legs feeling like they were going to drop off.  Fortunately the next bit was mostly down, including the good kind of chevron.  The temporary traffic lights had disappeared, but we were turning left to Millington for lunch, rather than freewheeling all the way to Pocklington.

Lunch was had outdoors, because it was that warm:

(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/york2011-03/PICT0296.sized.jpg)

And CrinklyLion's well-packed scone was declared Cake Of The Day:

(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/york2011-03/PICT0297.sized.jpg)

With a bit of wandering dog retrieval and discussion of recumbent bikes, wheelchairs, small wheels and their allergy to loose gravel with some of the other customers, we set off up the valley.  Rower40 and I noted that the zigzag at Pasture Gate was like a miniature version of Box Hill, and were glad that we didn't have to climb it, and weren't on the tandem.

The slow climb up Millington Dale and Pasture Dale was lovely.  Only really hard work towards the end, and some fantastic scenery.  It would have been nicer with fewer cars, so we didn't have to keep riding single file to let them pass, but otherwise that's going on my list of pleasant ways to gain elevation.

A bit of rolling terrain after that.  While I don't have much in the way of climbing legs, this is what I'm used to, and the recumbent lends itself to my natural riding style of winching up short climbs and carrying as much momentum through into the next one as possible.  I managed a particularly impressive bit of rollercoaster cycling at Westbeck Bridge: as we came round the bend on the descent I saw what appeared to be a vertical wall of road up ahead.  Realising the only sensible approach was to try to gain as much speed as possible, I slammed it into a high gear, picked a line and managed to hit 35mph at the bottom.  This gave me enough speed to get nearly all the way up the other side, much to the surprise of those I shot past on the ascent.  It's not often that you get to pull that manoeuvre off quite so spectacularly.    8)

The slog up Kilnwick Percy Hill was non-fun.  I stopped for a rest in a gravelly lay-by half way up, and had fun trying to get moving again in the 19" gear - eventually resorting to carrying the bike into the middle of the road so I could get enough traction to avoid wheelspin.  My mood improved rapidly as we reached the brow of the hill, though...

3km straight down into Pocklington.  Including a chevron.  Decent road surface, with good sight lines.  CrinklyLion suggested that it was "probably best if Kim goes at the front for this bit".  I achieved a respectable 45.9mph on the descent, and could probably have had 50 if I'd been able to see that the discolouration in the middle of the road before the bend wasn't loose gravel.  I think I'm going to have to come back to that one armed with some prescription safety goggles to stop my eyes watering.

Once the others had caught up, it was round the corner to not-Granny-Annie's house for a scones and more cake stop.  I may have had a comedy clipless moment on the tile floor, which may have ended in a giggling fit.

From there, it was mostly flat again, to Warthill (thus named presumably because it achieves about the same change in elevation as the average wart).  It had just started to rain as we arrived at the pub, so a swift pint was called for.  There's a comedy photo somewhere of rower40's Grasshopper parked amongst some (PINK, tasselled) children's bikes.

A swift (and suspiciously inexpensive) pint was just what was needed to sort the weather out.  We engaged the FRIKKIN' LASERS for the journey back to York, where the group fragmented according to relative urgency of trains.  I returned to the Den with CL and rower40 to be greeted by an excited exclamation of "Kim!" from SmallestCub, who was having a bath.

I made it 86.5km.  Here's the elevation/speed profile for those who were asking:

(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/maps/cycling/2011-03-12.png) (http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/maps/cycling/2011-03-12.html)

Rower40 left for his train, and we had a fun evening that included Captain Scarlet (and the dubious approach to risk assessment and fail-safe systems therein), being shed on by cats, curry, and late-night bike-fettling.  It was also noted that if a large touring recumbent can be successfully stowed in their living room, CrinklyLion has no good reason not to get herself a nice, shiny and relatively compact Islabike road bike...
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: rower40 on 14 March, 2011, 08:45:43 pm
There's a comedy photo somewhere of rower40's Grasshopper parked amongst some (PINK, tasselled) children's bikes.

Here it is:
(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm63/rower40/Wow2Peaks/PICT0743.jpg)

Kids - stay away from strange bikes...

I'm going to be put on a register for this, aren't I?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Wowbagger on 15 March, 2011, 11:08:18 pm
It all sounds very fine. I'm very jealous and more than a little flattered that a YACF Poohsticks Match does not have First Class status conferred upon it unless I am in attendance.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: andrewc on 15 March, 2011, 11:52:24 pm
That was a lovely day out, so why, in all of Kim's photos am I scowling ?  ???   I'm not _that_self conscious about the belly....
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 16 March, 2011, 12:00:44 am
I did wonder about that.  Thought it might be some sort of subconscious camera reflex.  A friend of mine always used to turn to face the camera in a way that made him look overexposed, 2-dimensional and generally like he'd been badly photoshopped in, no matter how normal his pose when the shutter release was pressed.

I count myself lucky that I get away with bad hair and extra chins.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: tiermat on 16 March, 2011, 07:36:53 am
That was a lovely day out, so why, in all of Kim's photos am I scowling ?  ???   I'm not _that_self conscious about the belly....

At least you don't look like an extra out of The Transporter or a bad WWE actor wrestler :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on 16 March, 2011, 09:18:42 am
The only picture I have of the ride:

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_Fcjv6BKmydU/TYCAGJkvi2I/AAAAAAAAAIs/qcRGNwRZ8lY/s576/beer.JPG)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Mr Larrington on 16 March, 2011, 09:50:30 am
3km straight down into Pocklington.  Including a chevron.  Decent road surface, with good sight lines.

I remember that one from circa 1974.  Pete Fenton crashed.  Shirtless.  Not pretty :sick:
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 16 March, 2011, 09:58:38 am
Ouch!

Of course almost everybody else disappeared down kilnwick percy rather faster than me, so I couldn't even bore them all to tears with pointing out where we used to go and sit on a hill to drink cheap cider.  Or my old school.  Or Top Shop (not the clothing sort) where we spent dinner money on sweets and underage cigarettes.  Or point out the corner where I got caught by my english teacher smoking at lunchtime between  2 A level exams. 
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 09 April, 2018, 10:02:59 pm
I remember that one from circa 1974.  Pete Fenton crashed.  Shirtless.  Not pretty :sick:

Having just been reminded of, and re-read, this thread it occurs to me that I was most most remiss in not saying "What, Paddy's big brother?!?!".  Paddy being one of my big sister's best mates a few years later :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Deano on 09 April, 2018, 10:40:17 pm
Fancy a re-run?

Yes, you would have to ride your bike :)
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 09 April, 2018, 10:46:03 pm
Yes, you would have to ride your bike :)

What is this foolishness of which you speak?
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: Kim on 10 April, 2018, 01:03:35 am
Yes, you would have to ride your bike :)

What is this foolishness of which you speak?

I will if you will.
Title: Re: York or therebouts-ish ride 12/3/11 - Lungs and Knees and Weather permitting!
Post by: CrinklyLion on 10 April, 2018, 06:55:45 am
Thing is, this is basically the route we did for that 5 day cycle camping tour last summer.  Which was probably the last time I rode a bike for non-commuting porpoises....