Yet Another Cycling Forum
General Category => Rides and Touring => Topic started by: mrcharly-YHT on 13 September, 2011, 09:28:09 am
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Whitby goth weekend this year is 6-7th November - the very end - which coincidentally is more than 6 weeks away.
Dare we start planning now?
November is rather late in the year - which may imply ICE and SNO. While I personally have no objections to SNO, I'm not fond of riding on ice in the dark.
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Myself and CL were discussing this the other day, in relation to her possibly being back on the bike for it.
Sounds like a plan, same(ish) route as last time?
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The route was hard to fault - although I'd be inclined to pull off into the pine plantation rather than freeze in the layby. And I would bring fiery stove of warmth this time, possibly with marshmallows.
MsCharly is keen, particularly if it involves steam trains (I don't think she's quite up to riding up Blue Bank yet).
There was a York lass from CC on the Hull ride who was interested in doing this ride - she travelled back on train with CL and Linda.
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Yep, I'm interested.
I didn't get to do this last year and it sounded like a fun ride :)
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Yep,I'm interested.
I didn't get to do it last year and it sounded like a fun ride :)
;D
will you be on fixed hulver?
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I am hoping to acheive several things this year:
1) get all the way to Whitby without b0rking my knee (having a bike that fits me properly will probably help with this)
2) Go down Blue Bank without touching the brakes (achieving 1 will help this)
3) ride back to Helmsley for ice cream with Mrs T and TLD, as we planned for last year.
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I have unfinished business with this one, having DNSed last year's at the last minute on account of Stupid Knees. I bought light-up skulls for my bike and everything, so obviously I'm up for it.
Choice of bike dependant on conditions. The ninja goth bike may be better suited to winter skog.
mrcharly: I assume you've typoed the dates. Goth weekend is the 4th-6th of November. I suppose that makes this year's theme 'explosives' :demon:
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Possibly interested. Which night would this be on Friday or Saturday?
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I am presuming Friday, as that seems to be the default, so 4th Nov.
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I have unfinished business with this one, having DNSed last year's at the last minute on account of Stupid Knees. I bought light-up skulls for my bike and everything, so obviously I'm up for it.
Choice of bike dependant on conditions. The ninja goth bike may be better suited to winter skog.
mrcharly: I assume you've typoed the dates. Goth weekend is the 4th-6th of November. I suppose that makes this year's theme 'explosives' :demon:
Their website says 3rd-7th - so I was just quoting the weekend dates.
Tiermat - I'm not sure even tigerbiten made it down blue bank without touching brakes - that 90degree bend makes it a bit difficult!
Kim, if you haven't ridden the north york moors, the hills aren't anywhere near as bad as tan hill. The southerly slopes are just a long slog, nothing steep. You're pretty good at dealing with those sorts of hills.
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Count me in. I hope someone is going to re-erect the Christmas tree for this year. It was a rather peculiar sight - sat by the roadside in the middle of nowhere.
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Kim, if you haven't ridden the north york moors, the hills aren't anywhere near as bad as tan hill. The southerly slopes are just a long slog, nothing steep. You're pretty good at dealing with those sorts of hills.
Correction: THESE hills aren't anywhere near as bad as Tan Hill. I'd cycle Tan Hill any day before say White Horse Bank, Rosedale Chimney or Levisham Bank. I have to agree with mrcharly that the hills on the whitby route are just "steady away" though.
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Count me in. I hope someone is going to re-erect the Christmas tree for this year. It was a rather peculiar sight - sat by the roadside in the middle of nowhere.
The Christmas tree is still there! At least it was in June when I went over to Whitby.
Yep,I'm interested.
I didn't get to do it last year and it sounded like a fun ride :)
;D
will you be on fixed hulver?
Maybe :)
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I'm contemplating a tandem ride with SDS :-\
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Kim, if you haven't ridden the north york moors, the hills aren't anywhere near as bad as tan hill. The southerly slopes are just a long slog, nothing steep. You're pretty good at dealing with those sorts of hills.
Indeed. I had a good look at the route profile last year and decided that under normal conditions it was going to be all about how much I trust my lights/tyres on the way down, rather than knees/lungs on the way up.
:thumbsup:
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Kim, if you haven't ridden the north york moors, the hills aren't anywhere near as bad as tan hill. The southerly slopes are just a long slog, nothing steep. You're pretty good at dealing with those sorts of hills.
Correction: THESE hills aren't anywhere near as bad as Tan Hill. I'd cycle Tan Hill any day before say White Horse Bank, Rosedale Chimney or Levisham Bank. I have to agree with mrcharly that the hills on the whitby route are just "steady away" though.
I'm glad you typed that. My recollection of the N. York Moors was that they were full of 1 in 5s.
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<nods respectfully towards Adam>
I respectfully have to disagree with the learned gentleman.
The south-side slopes are gradual.
The north-side slopes are steep.
The east/west slopes (such as Rosedale chimney) are vertical.
white horse bank is an anomaly and doesn't cross the moors.
There are only about 3 roads running north-south (discounting the valley roads that rise to join the main routes).
Last year we took the most major of the roads, which was damn near deserted at night. It's also the most gentle route, so gentle in fact that the learned gentleman managed to ride it without realising he was carrying many kilograms of totally superfluous luggage. What was it again? A complete set of timetables for the UK, a transformer and a hammer?
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Doable on Fixed then? ;D
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It would be a long winch up. (did deano do it on fixed last year).
There is one short steep hill, just after Blue bank and before whitby. some people walked that last year - they didn't expect it, came round a corner and were caught in the wrong gear.
You might find the downs a big tiring unless you crank a big gear.
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It was a lovely easy ride to Whitby. I seem to remember a few _slight_ inclines on the route we took back to York, mainly around Castle Howard.
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Mmmm daughters birthday so may be awkward. Although if I drive across then ride back to York after it may be doable . Will have to work on this one! Im a probable!
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Put me down as a Definite Probable.
Is this an FNR? Dep. York at some late hour, after a scrum on Friday evening trains? I'll be needed back in Derby on the Saturday night to set light to two Metric Tripolis of fireworks, as our Rowing Club like to see out the year (kind of) with a Bang. (We missed last year, as the firing zone was a building site.)
Orange Bling it is. Or maybe Grasshopper? Who knows? (Who cares?)
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I'm assuming it would be Friday night ride.
I should have come back from tour the week before so hopefully will know how my stove works by then. Depending on climatic conditions I think the cape will reappear as well :D
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Envious sounds a hoot.
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The NYMR timetable only runs up to October atm. Looking at the fares list Whitby-Pickering is £13 for adults +£2 for the bike. If anyone is under 16 then it's £6.50 + the £2.
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I have unfinished business with this one, having DNSed last year's at the last minute on account of Stupid Knees. I bought light-up skulls for my bike and everything, so obviously I'm up for it.
Choice of bike dependant on conditions. The ninja goth bike may be better suited to winter skog.
mrcharly: I assume you've typoed the dates. Goth weekend is the 4th-6th of November. I suppose that makes this year's theme 'explosives' :demon:
Their website says 3rd-7th - so I was just quoting the weekend dates.
Tiermat - I'm not sure even tigerbiten made it down blue bank without touching brakes - that 90degree bend makes it a bit difficult!
Kim, if you haven't ridden the north york moors, the hills aren't anywhere near as bad as tan hill. The southerly slopes are just a long slog, nothing steep. You're pretty good at dealing with those sorts of hills.
I may be in for this year.
Last year I was just feathering brakes going into the corners on blue bank and I still hit 49.7.
Being as it hits +20% with corners, I'm not sure if its possible to go down without touching the brakes in the dark.
I liked the route out and back.
Mainly nice steady pull ups with sharp drops on the way out.
Then rolling on the way back.
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Definitely a possible. Or as definitely possible as I can be at this stage - I really need to get some relatively hilly miles in my legs.
If I've got the luggage situation sorted out I may even ride Morticia the Surly ;)
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Can't make it. Working. Bah.
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I'm now an unlikely.
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Well well. It seems someone owes me a favour. I have swapped shifts and am able to come. It is still the 28th isn't it?
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Just re-read the thread. Damn and blast.
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Met Mrs T's Ostrich at the pubbe where we went for lunch yesterday.
Told her about this and she is interested.
Will get Mrs T to remind her when she goes to see her again this week.
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I'm tempted, very tempted. Having failed or dropped out of everything this summer, I'm not confident though. But I know the route. But I'm not very fit. But it was actually only 50 miles or so wasn't it? But I've not done more than 20 all summer. But. But.
I could ask MFWHTBAB how he felt about spending the night alone at mine and driving over to Whitby for a day by the sea/fish'n'chips etc and picking me up. In November.
Or from Pickering, if the trains work out well again. Or something.
Well, I think that's nice and clear isn't it? I'm in, unless I'm not.
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I'm tempted, very tempted. Having failed or dropped out of everything this summer, I'm not confident though. But I know the route. But I'm not very fit. But it was actually only 50 miles or so wasn't it? But I've not done more than 20 all summer. But. But.
Well, apart from the 50 on the tan hill ride.
It's a slog up the hills, but not steep - last time we had a stonking tailwind most of the way to the moors (and a foul headwind on the way back!).
You could maybe get on the trike a couple of evenings and do a 30 min spin to get some steel back in your legs?
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At the risk of getting random people joining this, our window cleaner might be joining us.....
Maybe we should have a "most unusual occupation" contest for this one, although all bets would be off if TimO joined us :)
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Paging fboab. Fboab to the wipe-clean courtesy phone please...
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I can always lapse into my alter-ego occupation (dolphin trainer), I use it to prevent people asking me questions about computers when I am on a night out with friends.
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I'm interested. Especially if I can decorate the bike with random Halloween tat. :thumbsup:
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i'm deeply dubious. the consultant today said I might be riding again in 6 weeks. that would be about 3 days before the ride. that doesn't feel like a silly idea, it feels like a stupid one :(
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I'm interested. Especially if I can decorate the bike with random Halloween tat. :thumbsup:
Of course, it's the LAW on this ride :)
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i'm deeply dubious. the consultant today said I might be riding again in 6 weeks. that would be about 3 days before the ride. that doesn't feel like a silly idea, it feels like a stupid one :(
Yebbut how long before you can bake again? :)
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I have just checked my callendar and realised I agreed to take my dad to Wales for a reunion with his wartime army pals on this w/end.
Oh well roll on Kildale w/end :thumbsup:
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right, by the bonfire night weekend i will be very unlikely to be fit for riding that sort of distance or those sort of hills and this route is too isolated for me to feel happy gambling on it.
however....
....i will be both baking, and cooking, again by then.
and i appear to have just provisionally booked a rather nice holiday let for the nights of fri 4th and sat 5th. it's about 2 minutes walk up a steep narrow path from the cafe that we ate at last time. crinklyauntie is possi-probably coming with me on the friday evening, as might crinklyuncle if he isn't doing a big bike ride of course.
so we can provisionally offer unlimited coffee, a proper breakfast, sofas (there's 3 of em, from memory) to snooze on in front on roaring open fires, hot baths and probably cake on the sat am. and for those who would like to chip a few quid into the pot for paying the rental costs, there's six bedrooms and we're using at most 3 of 'em. so you could make a weekend of it, stay and watch the fireworks over the harbour (house has an amazing view!) on sat night, get fish and chips from the magpie, and depart on the sunday.
is this a cunning plan of interest to anyone?
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right, by the bonfire night weekend i will be very unlikely to be fit for riding that sort of distance or those sort of hills and this route is too isolated for me to feel happy gambling on it.
however....
....i will be both baking, and cooking, again by then.
and i appear to have just provisionally booked a rather nice holiday let for the nights of fri 4th and sat 5th. it's about 2 minutes walk up a steep narrow path from the cafe that we ate at last time. crinklyauntie is possi-probably coming with me on the friday evening, as might crinklyuncle if he isn't doing a big bike ride of course.
so we can provisionally offer unlimited coffee, a proper breakfast, sofas (there's 3 of em, from memory) to snooze on in front on roaring open fires, hot baths and probably cake on the sat am. and for those who would like to chip a few quid into the pot for paying the rental costs, there's six bedrooms and we're using at most 3 of 'em. so you could make a weekend of it, stay and watch the fireworks over the harbour (house has an amazing view!) on sat night, get fish and chips from the magpie, and depart on the sunday.
is this a cunning plan of interest to anyone?
hmmmm. That does sound interesting. I wonder if MFWHTBAB would be interested in a night away as a reward for taxi-service?
I'll mention it, and see....
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Well, there's 2 double rooms (both huge) one of which is dibbed, 2 large twin rooms, 2 attic bedrooms (i think with mattresses/camp beds but me and the kids can take one of those of there's sufficient interest from others. and 2 large bathrooms, plus an extra loo. and a big sitting room and a little sitting room and a dining kitchen with a rayburn. take your own bedding and towels (but we can prob take spares in the car), loads of coal for the open fire provided, clean up ready for the next people coming before you leave. it is a little slice of heaven, tbh.
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OK, he seems to like the idea. Can we put provisional dibs on a room? Rough idea of cost?
Provisional to me being remotely capable!
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Provisional to me being remotely capable!
You'll be, to use the technical term, reet.
(I'll be Marcie)
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I appear to be double-booked. The local council's fireworks display is Saturday night, so the Rowing Club have moved its fireworks to the Friday. And there aren't that many club members who a) can be trusted with fire, and b) are expendable, and c) are still in possession of all their arms, legs, eyebrows and faculties, to actually set light to the whizzy-bangy things.
But hang on a minute...
The last train getting to York before midnight on Friday leaves Derby at 2112. So I've plenty of time to make big sparkly things go bang-splosh (some of the fireworks land in the river), then hie me to the station, wave Psychic Paper, and board a train to York.
Crinkly, Please can I have use of a sofa at your adopted Den from <arrival_time> till <0850-minus-transit-time-to-railway-stn-minus-10mins-faffage-time> please? Trains depart at 0850 or 1240. I might need to book use of an urchin as an alarm clock.
What was the best-guess journey time? Are we departing York Railway station at midnight?
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rower - i believe the plan is to leave the station at midnight.
is that a crashing space on sat am, or sat night until sun am? either is do-able.
there is parking space for 1 car easily - obv one space is booked for the crinklymotor - or 2 cars if you park very carefully in the courtyard. could probably get a couple of bikes in the hall if we were very careful (it is an astonishingly lovely house!) and there's a garden and a path alongside the house (within the property gates) where i'm sure we could lock up plenty of bikes with a bit of cunning.
arch - i'm trying to remember if there are in fact 2 doubles on the second floor, rather than a double and a twin as on the first floor. obv the crinklyauntie and uncle have dibs on one (since without them me and the cubs can't get there!) and i'd already provisionally offered a double to tiermat on the off-chance that mrs t and tld might want to join us on the sat night, but haven't had an answer for the reasonably good reason that he's currently riding a c2c.... so there's definitely a twin, possibly 2, available, and possibly a double, but i'm not exactly sure at the mo!
house is 90 quid a night. i guess it would depend how many ppl were chipping in!
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I'm sure we could cope with twins.
I mean, no way could we cope with twins, I mean twin beds.
MFWHTBAB will have his car, and is pretty good at parking (although it's long car). Is there other parking nearby suitable for an overnight.
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rower - i believe the plan is to leave the station at midnight.
is that a crashing space on sat am, or sat night until sun am? either is do-able.
Just Sat AM for a 30-mins or so of shut-eye. I'll be out of your (now fashionably manageable) hair ASAP, because, lovely though the place sounds, I've a suspicion that Whitby-on-Goth and my upbeat and sunny disposition might not get along.
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Pah! Nowt wrong with goths.
Just because they have a reputation for staying up all night, self-harm, hanging around in bus shelters and grave yards, speaking a strange language and looking a bit miserable doesn't mean they can't be perfectly pleasant people...
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i checked - 3 double rooms, 1 twin and 2 attic rooms :)
the goths were gloriously entertaining last year.
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Goths in the town were highlighted on the telly a few months back and they seemed really very nice and enjoying themselves tremendously.
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MFWHTBAB will have his car, and is pretty good at parking (although it's long car). Is there other parking nearby suitable for an overnight.
there's a somerfield 2 mins away (cliff street) which has a car park, not sure of opening times. or you can carry on past the house up cliff street to the top of the hill where there's more parking (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=YO21+3EN&hl=en&ll=54.490258,-0.619397&spn=0.012115,0.038581&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=12.635315,39.506836&vpsrc=0&t=m&z=15&layer=c&cbll=54.490263,-0.618901&panoid=25m_xj2xNBEYR8X1in5b0g&cbp=12,308.64,,0,-1.7) - the cooncil website (http://www.scarborough.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=15765) gives prices, but only for peak season which it won't be when we're there.
Having successfully got 2 cars into the courtyard before (vw golf and an audi of some sort) i know it can be done - but it does make getting in and out, especially for anyone with a bike, rather challenging!
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Before all the rooms go can I provisionally dibs a room for Mre T and TLD? Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, I was sort of doing something else :) (details to follow, probably tomorrow when I have regained some kind of sanity)
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so that's a double room each provisionally dibbsed for the crinklyrellies, arch+hfwmbab, and the tiermats. leaving 2xattic rooms and 1xtwin, between them currently occupied by me+2xcubs+one little dragon. i can happily share with all the kids and i'm working on
bullying and nagging gently persuading someone else so that's (at least provisionally) all bar one room 'booked'.
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No, sorry, can't.
5th Nov is my Birthday so I'll be partying round the Upper Thames 200k Audax.
S'all booked, and everything.
(And, I'm unemployed these days. All too usual an occupation :( )
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Celebrating your birthday with an Audax? What sort of wierdo would do a thing like that...
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Celebrating your birthday with an Audax? What sort of wierdo would do a thing like that...
No Idea :D
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Celebrating your birthday with an Audax? What sort of wierdo would do a thing like that...
*CL realises she has two weeks to teach the cubs to make a reasonable chocolate cake......*
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I mentioned the cottage thing to Mrs T over lunch (very nice it was too) and she thinks it's a brilliant idea....
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excellent. does she fancy heading over on the friday evening (which is what i plan to do with cubs and crinklyauntie - not sure if arch's fwmbab is coming then or on sat)? then we can all go and play pn wintry beaches while assorted cyclists snooze the day away. the house comes equipped with pretty much everything, plenty of pillows and duvets etc but you need to take duvet covers/pillow cases/sheets/towels. and last time i was there there was only one cafetiere, so i might pack another :D and if there's anyone riding over who needs bedding/towels i can take spares, i'm sure.
i'll get some shopping in beforehand to take over with us, including plenty of bangers and bacon and beans etc if people would prefer to have breakfast at the house, but won't be offended at all if people decided they would rather plan to go back to arbut's caff (which did us proud last time, and is literally 2 mins walk from the front door!) for whatever reason.
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Celebrating your birthday with an Audax? What sort of wierdo would do a thing like that...
*CL realises she has two weeks to teach the cubs to make a reasonable chocolate cake......*
Well, you know what makes perfect, don't you?
Practice!
At the moment I think MFWHTBAB would come over on the Saturday, probably having come to mine on the Friday - breaks the trip from Manchester a bit. But I'll offer him the choice.
Hmm. Home cooked brekkie or Cafe.
Home. Cafe.
Home, Cafe.
Ah!
Both!
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The NYM Railway site doesn't give any timetable dates for November :(
I've emailed them to see if they will be running on that day as i'd like to ride the train again :)
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This has to be extraordinarily cheeky for a first post on yacf - but I heard about this here (http://www.cyclechat.net/topic/93199-fnrttc-syndication/page__view__findpost__p__1861361), and had a wee chat with mcshroom. May I gatecrash and put my name down for the ride too, please?
Based in Leeds; hybrid bike, well-maintained; used to carrying spares and routine roadside bodge jobs; fit enough for the distance - if not very fast pretty slow :); have toured a similar less direct route from Malton to Scarborough, via Whitby - so know what to expect. Breaking my night-time riding virginity.
All best :)
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IMO it's not at all cheeky.It's exactly what this place is about.Welcome to the forum :thumbsup:
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It's also exactly how I ended up over here last year (following Arch's report on a ride to Scarborough) :D
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Welcome growingvegetables, and you will be more than welcome, as long as you like CAKE
don't worry about the speed, these ride go at one speed, and that is the speed of the slowest, the faster ones going ahead and waiting....
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IME they usually go below the speed of the slowest. Unless the slowest doesn't like CAKE.
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Welcome growingvegetables, and you will be more than welcome, as long as you like CAKE
don't worry about the speed, these ride go at one speed, and that is the speed of the slowest, the faster ones going ahead and waiting....
but never getting the beers,cakes or coffee in ;D
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:) Thank you for the welcome, lads and lasses! Oooh - looking forward to this.
I AM partial to the occasional piece of cake - aye, but not more than once an hour ;D
Also VERY partial to proper kippers - and I think I can hit that hankering sometime Saturday. Going all soft inside at the thought!
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It's also exactly how I ended up over here last year (following Arch's report on a ride to Scarborough) :D
Now now, don't go blaming me!
Growingveg (if I may take the liberty of abbreviating you), you'll fit right in, we generally need plenty of people to help eat the cake.
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I AM partial to the occasional piece of cake - aye, but not more than once an hour ;D
I was going to say you will fit right in, then I read the second part of that sentence :)
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Welcome growingvegetables, and you will be more than welcome, as long as you like CAKE
don't worry about the speed, these ride go at one speed, and that is the speed of the slowest, the faster ones going ahead and waiting....
but never getting the beers,cakes or coffee in ;D
They did on the last Whitby ride!
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The NYM Railway site doesn't give any timetable dates for November :(
I've emailed them to see if they will be running on that day as i'd like to ride the train again :)
Got a reply. They don't run services up to Whitby after October :(
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I've only just realised that there aren't direct trains back to York from Whitby, and the options available on the Saturday look rather convoluted (change at Middlesbrough and Darlington :-\).
With this in mind, I'm wondering whether riding to along the cycle path to Scarborough and getting a train from there might be more sensible. However, a quick web search suggests this route might be rather rough going. Does anyone have recent experience of this path? I'll probably be on my hybrid with 32mm tyres for this ride, so don't mind off-road tracks as long as they're reasonable.
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I've only just realised that there aren't direct trains back to York from Whitby, and the options available on the Saturday look rather convoluted (change at Middlesbrough and Darlington :-\).
With this in mind, I'm wondering whether riding to along the cycle path and getting a train from there might be more sensible. However, a quick web search suggests this route might be rather rough going. Does anyone have recent experience of this path? I'll probably be on my hybrid with 32mm tyres for this ride, so don't mind off-road tracks as long as they're reasonable.
to where?
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I've only just realised that there aren't direct trains back to York from Whitby, and the options available on the Saturday look rather convoluted (change at Middlesbrough and Darlington :-\).
With this in mind, I'm wondering whether riding to along the cycle path and getting a train from there might be more sensible. However, a quick web search suggests this route might be rather rough going. Does anyone have recent experience of this path? I'll probably be on my hybrid with 32mm tyres for this ride, so don't mind off-road tracks as long as they're reasonable.
to where?
Oops - managed to edit it out ::-) (now corrected!). Scarborough...
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I've ridden it. On 32mm tyres you should be ok as long as it hasn't been very wet over the few days before hand. Ive ridden it on wide road tyres before and managed perfectly well. If dry I'd be happy to head that way on 28mm tyres and may well have too now.
I havent ridden it after a damp spell, but have walked some of it, and the problem is more with puddles and dirt than it being soft or unrideable I think.
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I haven't ridden it recently - but took the kids down it 3-4 years ago in a torrential rainstorm; don't remember any muddy soft bits - but the puddles! And it was surfaced in a fine black ------ dust? (well it would be if it'd been dry) Sprayed up all over us - we were FILTHY by Scarborough.
I was on a tandem, but would have no hesitation taking my hybrid down it - hey, that's what I'd planned to do :D
A lot of it's on an old railway line, so nice gentle grades ;D
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Going completely off tack here, the coffee has arrived, so at least when we get to Whitby we can have a decent brew (Mrs T and TLD will be taking it over with them).
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i think that shows appropriate prioritisation, meself!
so - who's in? is anyone making a list? do you want the delights of arbuts (actually they really were delightful last time) for a fry-up or will i be wielding the frying pan? actually, the latter is probably a bit number dependant, isn't it. so probably the first thing to do is work out who is riding/staying etc!
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I'm in
I'm currently looking at routes out to the East Coast Main Line - all of them seem to go through KTTR territory :-\
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you can get a train to 'boro, you know. although i don't know if you get a glimpse of the transporter bridge....
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I think I'm building up the courage to ride to Darlo or NTR - both of which would round the trip up to about a century :)
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Deano told me that I have to do this York/whitby ride, especially because I'm such a Goth loving man..
Count me in.
I'll bring some fine belgian beers
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hurrah!
shall i make you flapjack - i hear cheese scones aren't your thing :D
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do you want the delights of arbuts (actually they really were delightful last time) for a fry-up or will i be wielding the frying pan? actually, the latter is probably a bit number dependant, isn't it.
And, to be fair to those that are staying at the cottage, dependent on the time we get into Whitby. I very much doubt that CA, CU, Mrs T and TLD will be over happy with a LARGE bunch of cyclists turning up on the door step at the crack of dawn.
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So maybe an initial foray on arbuts followed by retiring up the little footpath (entertaining in cleats) or a complex navigation of whitby's one way system to the cottage for moar coffee and cake and snoozing and gossip?
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Riding to Scarborough on the Saturday seems a decent option. The route is supposed to be pretty, and I can get a direct (& cheap!) train from there back to Liverpool.
http://www.gps-routes.co.uk/routes/home.nsf/RoutesLinksCycle/whitby-to-scarborough-cycle-route (http://www.gps-routes.co.uk/routes/home.nsf/RoutesLinksCycle/whitby-to-scarborough-cycle-route)
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So maybe an initial foray on arbuts followed by retiring up the little footpath (entertaining in cleats) or a complex navigation of whitby's one way system to the cottage for moar coffee and cake and snoozing and gossip?
That sounds perfect. With MFWHTBAB turning up at some point, not sure of timing yet, may depend how he feels, whether he does the trip in two bits, or what.
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incidentally, if anyone hasn't made the connection, SFUN is the audauxer-wot-i've-never-met-before that sent me chocklit in the post. apparently deano is taking recruitment for the random rides to new levels and we're going international.
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I'm still on for this. Will be riding from Whitby to Scarborough after brekky , then either catch train or ride home depending on how I feel.
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OK tickets booked. I'll be at York station at 22:38 and will ride from Whitby to Scarborough to get the 14:48 train back to Liverpool on the Saturday.
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Riding to Scarborough looks like the best of a bad lot, trains-wise, so I'm also booked on the 14:48.
I'll be arriving at York on the 22:54 as per tradition.
I will now endeavour not to injure myself or my bikes in a way that might compromise my ability to do this ride. Because doing that twice would be even sillier than coming from Belgium.
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The Belgians have better cycling facilities than us and a much better attitude to it than Brits do. They have wonderful chips & chocolate and their beer is pretty decent :P , nothing silly about any of that. If SFUN is coming over especially to ride in dank, dark Yorkshire in November though that could be construed as reet daft... ;)
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I'm out.
I'm just not fit enough, and I've got no chance of getting that way before the ride. :(
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Hmm, just been looking at trains. No bike spaces left on the 14.48 from Scarborough - is the 13.48 likely to give enough time to get to Whitby, then on to Scarborough? I don't want to cut it too fine...
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It's now unlikely that I'll attend :(
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Hmm, just been looking at trains. No bike spaces left on the 14.48 from Scarborough - is the 13.48 likely to give enough time to get to Whitby, then on to Scarborough? I don't want to cut it too fine...
I've never reserved a bike space on the transpennine trains. You can do it, but there really isn't any point. Even during peak commuter times from Leeds (ie, standing room only), the guards seem happy to let 4 bikes on the train.
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Right, I've had a go at working out who is going on this ride: -
YES :)
mcshroom
tiermat
Kim
Slowcoach
Arch
phantasmagoriana
growingvegitables
SFUN
Aiden
CrinklyUncle
NO :(
lantern rouge
boab
hulver
jogler
mrcharly
rower40
Tigerbiten
MEBBE :-\
eeymsmo
Shout up if I've missed anyone :)
Looks like most people are riding back to Scab after the ride, although I'm still tempted by riding to Darlo/NTR if anyone fancies it. ;D
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Unless things suddenly change, I'm a 'no' for this one. :(
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Unless things suddenly change, I'm a 'no' for this one. :(
:(
List updated
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tiptop ought to be up for this ride too, except she "doesn't do night rides". It's the right area for her and she was talking about more rides after the Tyne Tunnel ride this weekend.
What are the chances of starting at 1 minute past midnight and selling this to her on the principle that it's not a night ride, it's an early morning ride? :demon:
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Shout up if I've missed anyone :)
Well I'm not shouting but I'm up for giving this a go. To be honest I don't think CL would let me in the car if I tried not to ride it, this also means more CAKE space in the car :)
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Shout up if I've missed anyone :)
Well I'm not shouting but I'm up for giving this a go. To be honest I don't think CL would let me in the car if I tried not to ride it, this also means more CAKE space in the car :)
Great :) (and more cake space ;D)
I've added you to the list, taking us up to eleven.
List updating may get a bit slow for the next two weeks as I'm playing in the Scottish Snow off touring.
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Well I'm not shouting but I'm up for giving this a go.
:thumbsup:
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Shout up if I've missed anyone :)
Well I'm not shouting but I'm up for giving this a go. To be honest I don't think CL would let me in the car if I tried not to ride it, this also means more CAKE space in the car :)
Does this have anything to do with the conversation we had at the Punchbowl? :)
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Does this have anything to do with the conversation we had at the Punchbowl? :)
Yep, I had been a bit undecided as I'm a bit slow up hills, but there is only one way to get better.
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Does this have anything to do with the conversation we had at the Punchbowl? :)
Yep, I had been a bit undecided as I'm a bit slow up hills, but there is only one way to get better.
You'll have me for company!
I'm going to be woefully underprepared. I haven't ridden the trike since Tan Hill. I'm almost, almost wondering about going upright, but I'd lose out on the descents.
Someone remind me, it worked out about 50 miles didn't it? If it's more, lie.
CL, any idea yet on the cost of our portion of the holiday home (double room if poss, twins will do)? Just a rough idea...
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Someone remind me, it worked out about 50 miles didn't it? If it's more, lie.
I did the round trip last year and only just did a hundred miles, so it can only be about 50 there.
You have time to get in a couple of training rides . . .
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Someone remind me, it worked out about 50 miles didn't it? If it's more, lie.
I did the round trip last year and only just did a hundred miles, so it can only be about 50 there.
You have time to get in a couple of training rides . . .
Oh, I spent most of last weekend on a bike. Well, I say most... We did manage two cafes stops 4 miles apart at one point.... ;)
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There is always Tuesday night, Arch :)
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Don't touch the gravestones... ;)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8798943/Goths-banned-from-Dracula-graveyard.html
We're up in Scarb during half term, and were planning to visit Whitby (for first time).
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CL, any idea yet on the cost of our portion of the holiday home (double room if poss, twins will do)? Just a rough idea...
Good question! The place costs a hundred quid a night (s'gone up a tenner from last year! mind, it didn't go up at all the year before).
I think that on friday night there's me+2 cubs, CA, Mrs T+TLD so i'm working on the assumption that the lions and the dragons between them will pay for that night.
Saturday i think we have the Tiermats, me+2, CA and CU, Arch+MFWMBAB and possibly SFUN, which makes 6 or 7 adults and 3 small ppl. so i guess prob around 20 or 25 quid for the pair of you?
I'm planning to pick up some general supplies (tea, milk, bread, beer sort of stuff) to take over with us on the friday and Tiermat has the good coffee on order.
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Cool thanks, sounds like a bargain. We'll chip in for provisions of course. I'll be able to say what MFWHTBAB'a plans are nearer the time - he'll probably stop the night at mine and drive over in the morning.
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CL, any idea yet on the cost of our portion of the holiday home (double room if poss, twins will do)? Just a rough idea...
Good question! The place costs a hundred quid a night (s'gone up a tenner from last year! mind, it didn't go up at all the year before).
I think that on friday night there's me+2 cubs, CA, Mrs T+TLD so i'm working on the assumption that the lions and the dragons between them will pay for that night.
Saturday i think we have the Tiermats, me+2, CA and CU, Arch+MFWMBAB and possibly SFUN, which makes 6 or 7 adults and 3 small ppl. so i guess prob around 20 or 25 quid for the pair of you?
I'm planning to pick up some general supplies (tea, milk, bread, beer sort of stuff) to take over with us on the friday and Tiermat has the good coffee on order.
Crikey, will we all fit in there on Saturday night?
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CL, any idea yet on the cost of our portion of the holiday home (double room if poss, twins will do)? Just a rough idea...
Good question! The place costs a hundred quid a night (s'gone up a tenner from last year! mind, it didn't go up at all the year before).
I think that on friday night there's me+2 cubs, CA, Mrs T+TLD so i'm working on the assumption that the lions and the dragons between them will pay for that night.
Saturday i think we have the Tiermats, me+2, CA and CU, Arch+MFWMBAB and possibly SFUN, which makes 6 or 7 adults and 3 small ppl. so i guess prob around 20 or 25 quid for the pair of you?
I'm planning to pick up some general supplies (tea, milk, bread, beer sort of stuff) to take over with us on the friday and Tiermat has the good coffee on order.
Crikey, will we all fit in there on Saturday night?
I've looked back over the the thread, and I think CL has it sorted. We appear to be staying in some sort of mansion with about a hundred bedrooms.
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3 double, 1 twin and 2 attic rooms. 2 proper bathrooms (sorry, baths not showers) and an extra loo. 2 living rooms and a big dining kitchen.
So...
- one double room for the Tiermats
- one double room for CA and CU
- one double room for Arch+MFWMBAB
then in the three rooms remaining
- eldestcub desparately wants to sleep in a slopy-roofed attic room (i think these might have camp beds or mattresses, we've never had to use 'em before!) and his bro will want to be with him,
- dunno if TLD would prefer to be in with them or in an attic on her own or sharing with T and Mrs T or sharing an attic/twin room with me?
- maybe perhaps SFUN somewhere :)
The ground floor is the 2 living rooms, hallway (with coal hole) and kitchen
loo on the half landing
first floor 2xdouble rooms plus a bathroom
second floor 1xdouble room, 1 x twin and a bathroom
attic floor 2 x attic rooms.
And if it came to it there are a couple of sofas that are more than big enough for me to sleep on too :)
And rather beautiful too :)
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AH! I had mis-read you previous post, I thought the attic rooms had been counted as double/single rooms.
I shall stand down now then.
Oh, apart from the question I asked in the pub last week, bike storage?
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There isn't an outbuilding type storage. You could put a couple at least in the ground floor hallway, which (from memory) is a tiled floor - we'd just need to make sure we topped up the coal from the coal hole first as it would impede access to that. Or carry one upstairs, so long as it wasn't filthy, and park it in the large wooden floored hallway on the first or second floors. Don't think you'd get one in the utility without blocking the fridge, but i might be wrong. There's space outside, I suspect with sufficient railing type things around, to lock up a several in the courtyard. And AFAIK there'll only be 2, or possibly 3, upwrongs and one trike around overnight and one could presumably go in whichever car is parked in the (gated) courtyard?
I do think it will be best if we can only have one car parked in the courtyard as otherwise getting in and out would be near impossible with a bike!
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I'm sure MFWHTBAB can park in the nearby carpark, as long as overnighting is allowed. And I'm happy for the trike to sit out overnight locked up if need be - might see if MFWHTBAB has a small tarp or something to sling over it.
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I'm sure MFWHTBAB can park in the nearby carpark, as long as overnighting is allowed.
Pavillion Drive car park is a six minute walk away, according to google mappery. No camping or overnight sleeping, but open 24 hours, and whilst they charge a fiver for 24 hours parking in peak season I found a couple of leaflets and references on the council site that imply it might be free off-season.
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In the absence of MrC, and with his permission, I shall be leading this out.
Prepare to get lost.....
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I have a gpx of last year's ride - here (http://ridewithgps.com/trips/405472)
I'll load it into the gps - as to get really lost requires a computer :)
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I have a gpx of last year's ride - here (http://ridewithgps.com/trips/405472)
I'll load it into the gps - as to get really lost requires a computer :)
And to get properly lost requires two, so I'll put it into mine too :)
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I'm DNSing this one. Whizz-bang-splosh Fireworks at the Rowing Club that night, and I need to use Saturday to make inroads into the Teetering-Piles-Of-C**p(TM) in the house, and possibly to do my bit for the EU sleep mountain.
Sorry to change plans this late in the day.
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I'm DNSing this one. Whizz-bang-splosh Fireworks at the Rowing Club that night, and I need to use Saturday to make inroads into the Teetering-Piles-Of-C**p(TM) in the house, and possibly to do my bit for the EU sleep mountain.
Sorry to change plans this late in the day.
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Oh well, enjoy blowing things up :D
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Count me out as well.
I need to put a lot more mile in on the new trike in daylight to get used to the gears before trying a night ride.
Hope you all have a good ride.
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I'm still in :thumbsup: I'm away most of this week though so communication (and preparation) wont be the best.
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I'm still in :thumbsup: I'm away most of this week though so communication (and preparation) wont be the best.
Preparation? Who needs preparation? It's much more fun getting lost without any... ;D
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Oh bugger - I'd better bake you some cake, hadn't I?
Right.... requests?
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In the absence of MrC, and with his permission, I shall be leading this out.
Prepare to get lost.....
:o
There are only about four turnings!
Are you brewing up at Hole of Horcum again?
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Oh bugger - I'd better bake you some cake, hadn't I?
Right.... requests?
coffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffee!
Please.
I am still on for this, although god knows what sort of state I'll be in at the end! Or halfway....
MFWHTBAB intends to stay the night at mine and then drive over on Saturday morning when he's ready. CL, could you possibly PM me an address and postcode for the house? I'll look up that carpark for him too.
Do we need stoves? I could bring the Trangia, just, I think, in my side pods, and a small bottle of meths, but don't have room for a lot of water. I think someone suggested a more sheltered spot than the Hole of Horcum?
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In the absence of MrC, and with his permission, I shall be leading this out.
Prepare to get lost.....
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There are only about four turnings!
I am quite able to get lost with zero turnings....
Are you brewing up at Hole of Horcum again?
NO!
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I'm still in :thumbsup: I'm away most of this week though so communication (and preparation) wont be the best.
Preparation? Who needs preparation? It's much more fun getting lost without any... ;D
By preparation i meant checking my lights work and .... Er ... Thats it :-)
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The wind isn't looking as strong as last year, but if there's a better spot than there it would be nice. I can carry a gas stove and a litre or so of water if you want :)
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Oh bugger - I'd better bake you some cake, hadn't I?
Right.... requests?
Chocolate flapjack and chocolate banana cake please :)
If anyone is getting to York early you can come round to our house to wait
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so....
coffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffeecoffee... for arch
chocolate and bananananana for CU
chocolate flapjack for CU
Carrot and Wensleydale flapjack just in case a carrot and wensleydale flapjacker declares an interest....
Kim-friendly st clements cake for Kim. I'm obviously making an assumption here, but I think it's a reasonably safe one.
(Although actually Arch I think that we should bully nag gently persuade Mrs T to make coffee cake to eat at the end for second breakfast because the dragon's caffeinated comestibles are infinitely superior to the lion's)
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The wind isn't looking as strong as last year, but if there's a better spot than there it would be nice. I can carry a gas stove and a litre or so of water if you want :)
I rode back after last year's night ride, and noted that 100yards on from the windy exposed pullin, there was a lovely copse of pine, with a side road passing through it.
So if you pull in there you should be able to find shelter from the wind.
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I may now be out of this , been called away for work all of next week, and with being awAy all of this week and mrs Aidan being at work all day Sunday it's looking like Saturday is the only day we'll get together for a fortnight. As she is generally very supportive of my cycling I don't want to abuse her tolerance! I am thinking about turning up and riding some of the way if I can work something sensible out
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Well.... I hear a rumour that our belgian correspondent has booked a ferry. And likes any sort of cake :)
Arch - will pm you (and MFWHTBAB, and get a message to Mrs T) later today about addresses and stuff.
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(Although actually Arch I think that we should bully nag gently persuade Mrs T to make coffee cake to eat at the end for second breakfast because the dragon's caffeinated comestibles are infinitely superior to the lion's)
I hesitate to believe that. I think I need proof, and comparative samples...
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I will ask the question tonight, Mrs T was asking me just the other night what cake I wanted making. As she will be driving there I am sure she could transport a Mocha cake :)
Weather forecast at the moment is low windows (so low as to be negligible) but damp, not pissing down, just damp.
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And today I found that our Belgian correspondent (who speaks really good english!) has hopefully resolved a minor paperwork issue. So it looks like he actually might make it \o/
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<goes to buy lottery ticket>
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At the moment I am out for this :'(
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I can now move my head vertically as well as horizontally, and pain-free within the range needed to operate a recumbent bicycle, so I should be okay for the weekend. :thumbsup:
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Looks like you are leading the ride, then, Kim. You have the GPS track, don't you?
AFAIK, I'm still a non-starter for this.
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At the moment I am out for this :'(
Hold the front page.
I may have been a bit hasty....
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I've got too much going on at the moment to actually do the ride, but that doesn't mean I might not threaten to turn up at the station, take random photographs and disappear off again.
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Looks like you are leading the ride, then, Kim. You have the GPS track, don't you?
I do. I've not looked at it recently, because while comedy off-roading on inappropriate bikes may be enhanced by a codeine-induced fog, mucking about in Mapsource almost certainly isn't. I vaguely recall from doing my homework last year that the route wasn't exactly complicated, though, and will upload something sensible to the eTrex when I get a working brain for 10 minutes.
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Game back on, I'm in....
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Hurray hurray hurray hurrah!
And not just for the coffee...
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At the moment I am out for this :'(
Hold the front page.
I may have been a bit hasty....
That's a relief. I won't need the map of Spain that I inadvertently brought last year this time round then, cos we'll not be getting that lost. Do you think I might need any of the other crap I took round with me? (library books, network hub, 4lb lump hammer, steam tables if I remember correctly).
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We have a key for the house :) Tiermat - have emailed mrs t details. Arch, will pm you info later this evening!
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Hurrah for back-in-ness!
I've lost count, who's in?
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(http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/386294_10150375439266839_551606838_7969137_992191731_n.jpg)
CAIK!
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Yay :thumbsup:
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Updated...
YES :)
andrewc
mcshroom
tiermat
Kim
Slowcoach
Arch
phantasmagoriana
growingvegitables
SFUN
CrinklyUncle
NO :(
Aiden
lantern rouge
boab
hulver
jogler
mrcharly
rower40
Tigerbiten
MEBBE :-\
eeymsmo
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I'm there as well......hopefully there will be cake for all.... :P
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List updated Andrew
As the group is getting relatively big, can I ask that each person has the mobile number of at least two others on the ride?
For my part I think I have mobile numbers for most people, if I haven't, please PM me. I shall be wearing my Road-ID, so anything happens to me you should have access to my emergency contact details (unless something rips my right arm off :) )
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hopefully there will be cake for all.... :P
Well, I've got 4kim-friendly cakes, 4 choclit and nanaba cakes, and 8 coffee cakes (currently waiting for coffee beanage)
Thought I might do some flapjackery later...
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List updated Andrew
As the group is getting relatively big, can I ask that each person has the mobile number of at least two others on the ride?
I'll PM mine round everyone later when I'm at home.
For my part I think I have mobile numbers for most people, if I haven't, please PM me. I shall be wearing my Road-ID, so anything happens to me you should have access to my emergency contact details (unless something rips my right arm off :) )
What, like the Beast of the North York Moors?
What do you mean, you've never heard of the Beast of the North York Moors? :demon:
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I think I've got a fair few of them from previous rides, but I'll PM my number around tonight when I'm at home.
As for the beast - is it afraid of frikkin lasers? (http://katebushforum.com/forum/emot_special/th_Smiley-hiding-behind-couch.gif) ;D
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What do you mean, you've never heard of the Beast of the North York Moors? :demon:
Oh I have heard of it.....
It's me, innit? :)
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Sorry, think I might have confused things, definitely a No from me I'm afraid. Instead I'll be in a garden setting fire to things with the reprobates I used to go to Whitby with. :thumbsup:
Apologies for any confusion.
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All participants should all have had a PM from me with my number. For those who already had it - it hasn't changed. If I've missed anyone - let me know.
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Are we going for costumes this year, or just bike adorning hallowe'en tat?
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I don't need a costume - I'm scary enough without ;D
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Are we going for costumes this year, or just bike adorning hallowe'en tat?
Undecided yet, but you have reminded me to go and attach the ghost and skull to my bike :)
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Ohyes, I must dig the light-up skulls out. Don't have time to organise any pyrotechnics, unfortunately.
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Is my timing out here or what? Ghouls and Ghosties 3rd Nov....mmmmmm oh just remembered its Whitby..
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Can I have some positive vibes please? Coz I isn't liking my sore throat and stuffy sinuses... :-\
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I hope you guys have a great time in Whitby. I would have joined you but I am taking my dad to Wales for a regimental reunion with his war time comrades.
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Can I have some positive vibes please? Coz I isn't liking my sore throat and stuffy sinuses... :-\
Don't worry, sniffles are afraid of the dark. Trufax.
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Would carrot and wensleydale flapjack help? I'm just thinking about making some. Whilst the oven's on for the ordinary flapjack, like.
I suspect our belgian correspondent may be on a boat. I hope so, anyway.
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If the worst comes to the worst, and I don't feel up to the ride, would I still be welcome in Whitby, if I promised not to breathe on people?
It's hard to be positive with a sore throat. Sniffles I can deal with.
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I had a sore throat earlier in the week. Then I put my neck out, took loads of painkillers and it mysteriously went away.
I'm not actually recommending that approach, though.
Anyway, isn't it about time to start discussing the weather forcasts? Can anyone better xcweather's ~10C with a spattering of rain at the start, and southerly wind...?
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If the worst comes to the worst, and I don't feel up to the ride, would I still be welcome in Whitby, if I promised not to breathe on people?
It's hard to be positive with a sore throat. Sniffles I can deal with.
S'fine by me :)
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While digging around to see if I could find either a mountain bike or Back To The Future style hoverboard (as recommended on the CTC forum for the cycle path from Whitby to Scarborough), I unearthed an OS map of the North York Moors. That's a bit useful. I might bring it.
I'm still not sure what I did with the skulls, though.
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I have three sorts of cake and two sorts of flapjack.
I will not, as we have established, be riding. Who wants to carry what, and how much shall I take straight to Whitby, I wonder?
Btw, it appears that our Belgian correspondent is indeed finding the ferry fun!
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Anyway, isn't it about time to start discussing the weather forcasts?
I shall refer the honorable lady to my post on page 10
</stuffy old git>
Anyways, 11C, dry, having rained during the day today (that is for Whitby, about the same for York)
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Bleagh.
Unless I feel miraculously better by this evening, I won't be riding. Disturbed night's sleep, sore throat, stuffy head. Just the thought of fetching the trike from the lockup after work seems like too much effort at the moment.
In which case, being moderately determined not to miss out on a holiday too, MFWHTBAB and I may head over to Whitby tonight in the wake of CL and her party. CL, I'll keep you informed.
So I think it best to assume to count me out, and if I do feel well enough, I'll be at the station in good time so as not to be left behind.
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Anyway, isn't it about time to start discussing the weather forcasts?
I shall refer the honorable lady to my post on page 10
</stuffy old git>
Anyways, 11C, dry, having rained during the day today (that is for Whitby, about the same for York)
Revise that to misty, low cloud and drizzle.
It isn't cold tho'
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being moderately determined not to miss out on a holiday too, MFWHTBAB and I may head over to Whitby tonight in the wake of CL and her party. CL, I'll keep you informed.
Arch, we'll prob get to Whitby with the key somewhere around 8-ish, I reckon. If you do decide against riding and are coming in the car tonight give me a shout later? We have a reasonable plenty of foodstuffs and beer and the like, but I didn't get any lacto-free milk!
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New list (to save going back through a gazillion posts...
YES :)
andrewc
mcshroom
tiermat
Kim
Slowcoach
phantasmagoriana
growingvegitables
SFUN
CrinklyUncle
NO :(
Aiden
lantern rouge
boab
hulver
jogler
mrcharly
rower40
Tigerbiten
eeymsmo
MEBBE :-\
Arch
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I'm feeling tired, hot & rundown :( Hopefully I'll be there.
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Weather update:
Overcast, rain clearing, light southerly winds. 10-12C overnight.
Looks like you'll have a good ride, peeps.
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SFUN has arrived at our house. Going in to York to show him the sights and get fish and chips
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Anyway, isn't it about time to start discussing the weather forcasts? Can anyone better xcweather's ~10C with a spattering of rain at the start, and southerly wind...?
How about Accuweather - low of 23C, possible light shower but no wind at all. I think I much prefer this version. Ahh - it is for Whitby, Jamaica - but you can't have everything ;)
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I found the skulls! Applying cable-tie technology now...
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I found the skulls! Applying cable-tie technology now...
Fantastic news! Casper, the not so friendly ghost, is now hiding out in my pannier pocket, as I couldn't find a way of reliably fixing him to my bike :)
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being moderately determined not to miss out on a holiday too, MFWHTBAB and I may head over to Whitby tonight in the wake of CL and her party. CL, I'll keep you informed.
Arch, we'll prob get to Whitby with the key somewhere around 8-ish, I reckon. If you do decide against riding and are coming in the car tonight give me a shout later? We have a reasonable plenty of foodstuffs and beer and the like, but I didn't get any lacto-free milk!
No worries, he takes tea and coffee black. I'm definitely a no for riding, just going to grab a shower and a mouthful of tea and head over to the car to hopefully rendezvous with the crinkly pride....
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Big sigh of relief that I had already backed out of this one; see here (http://yacf.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=50316.0).
To save you clicking: the Orange Bling front brake has given up. Again. Not something to contemplate while descending at R17N. (where "N"="nocturnal").
And it's tipping it down here.
Y'all have fun now. I'll be thinking of you.
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Sorry folks, I'm just not feeling up to it :(
Hope you all have a good time.
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I have, in my possession, a Sticky Toffee Loaf Cake....
Just in case anyone needed a bit more incentive to come out tonight :)
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Damn, can't find my Hallowe'en bike decorations anywhere :(
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Have a lovely time folks :thumbsup:
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I've had a delivery of 5 types of cake :D
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To Mordor!
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The Crinkly advance party has arrived in whitby, as have Arch and MFWHTBAB. Small boys have run around excitedly, and finally gone to sleep and adults have eaten nice food and are now nattering, drinking wine and contemplating cake. Actually we might have done a bit of running around excitedly too! Here be goths.
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... and I'm at York. Seem to be the first one here unless someone is going to claim the carbon bling with twice it weight in locks?
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I is on the train. The bike is on the same train. The train appears to be heading south to York.
Unfortunately, on the haste to get to the station on time... I've left the bike bling on the kitchen table.
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Arse! I'm feeling (almost) human again >:( Can I Jaunte to York ?
There was carbon bling in bondage the last time I was at York station, the Tan Hill ride I think..
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The Crinkly advance party has arrived in whitby, as have Arch and MFWHTBAB. Small boys have run around excitedly, and finally gone to sleep and adults have eaten nice food and are now nattering, drinking wine and contemplating cake. Actually we might have done a bit of running around excitedly too! Here be goths.
Sad I'm not going to be there. It would have been nice to see you all again. Protect the cubs from malign influences or they'll be dyeing their hair black and adopting an air of Gothiness....
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Just turning in for the night, having just spent 10 minutes out at the view of Whitby in the dark. Goodness knows how I'll drag myself away from the view tomorrow when it's light!
A bit late, but God Speed All. I'm unlikely to make it down to the cafe, but I've asked to be alerted to your imminent arrival, and I'll try and prod the kettle in to action in readiness.
I saw no sign of The Beast on the way over, but then it shies away from cars. It only eats cyclists....
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Hurry up with the reports you lot! Only 5 minutes of my tea break left!
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A select group are ensconced in the living room, soaking up the warmth of a coal fire, well dosed with hot beverages and CAKE.
The wooden train track has been deployed by the Cubs, formed in part around the slumbering form of a Belgian, and later, the foot of a Kim.
Thoughts are turning towards lunch....
MOAR CAKE!
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I am back in the Dragon's den, via Middlesborough, the garage and the shower.
Ride report will follow later, once I have slept a bit (for the first time in ~36 hours).
Going to snooze in front of the TV for a bit for now.
Oh and sorry guys, I have the reat of that sticky toffee cake :)
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The whitby based gang have goth spotted, rock clambered, dug big holes and drawn pictures in the sand, visited the whale bones, drunk beer, eaten fish and chips and are currently doing battle with silly ferry websites in an attempt to get our Belgian correspondent home again. Fireworks aplenty and strictly on tv :)
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And I'm back in Middle Earth, showered, about to eat food and can confirm the sighting of a free bonus goth on Sheffield station. New Rocks and trenchcoat, but no cape. I suggest avoiding the west coast mainline, as transport chaos appears to be in full force.
ETA: Checked the satellite imagery for the location of my WTF waypoint in the direction of the mysterious 'headlights'. It appears to be a farm (http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=york&hl=en&ll=54.064539,-0.855947&spn=0.004628,0.008079&hnear=York,+United+Kingdom&gl=uk&t=h&z=17&vpsrc=6). How disappointing.
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I made Sven trudge up to the abbey. But rewarded him, after the descent, with black sheep bitter :)
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Our Belgian correspondent has been fed coffee and cake for breakfast, collected together his belongings (including his cub-chosen whitby souvenirs, a fossil and a deliciously tacky snow globe with a picture of the abbey and the whale.bones) and we eventually found his shoes. He's off to hull, hopefully, and I'm off back to bed!
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A day out at the seaside.
After a few weeks of organising, people being in, then out, then in again (myself included), a small band of cyclists (8 in total) met up at York station ready to head off into the night to ride to Whitby.
Various adornments where seen on the bikes assembled there, including skulls and ghosts. One cyclist even had the forsight to adorn his kitchen table with "bling" :).
At the appointed hour (or slightly after) we set off into the dark and drizzle. First navigation error occured just after the Millenium bridge as my GPS decided it was going to sulk (fair enough, it was after bed time, well after bed time). A quick discussion saw us back on track and heading up toward the university, out onto Hull road then out into proper darkness. Unlike last year, where we had clear skies, stars and a moon, this year we had cloudy skies so it was properly black once away from street lights. Along the Stamford Bridge road we went, once again confusion on the part of the ride leader meant we nearly took a wrong left, but thankfully one of the other riders (growing vegetables) knew which turning we should take.
Once on the right country lane we fair togged along, pausing a couple of times for comfort breaks. At one of these we saw what looked like a pair of car headlights in the near distance. Speculation went around as to what they were and if it was a car, what the occupants were up to, it was later cleared up by Kim who found it was the entrance to a farm :(.
Uneventfully we got to Malton, but at the traffic lights therein one rider unshipped their chain and, whilst waiting for that to be sorted, another had a clipless moment which took a little while to fix (I never did find out what happened to the second rider, must remember to ask). I waited at the Malton sign on the way out for the two riders, letting the rest head off towards Pickering. Just after those two had passed I realised I need to pee, so did so then set off to chase them down. I eventually caught up with the whole group in Pickering, having done the most lonely 8 miles I had ever ridden.
Tea, coffee and cake were consumed in Pickering. We were eyed up by the local constabulary, and obviously considered not to be a threat, as they drove on. Once all back on the bikes we started the hills proper. We started as a group, but soon fragmented, the fast boys heading off into the distance, a group of three or 4 keeping together and two dropping off the back. I caught up with the two fast boys after a few miles as they had chosen to stop (possibly the worst place to stop as we managed to piss off some local dogs at a nearby house, judging by the barking :) ). Words were exchanged and we waited for the others to catch up. Onwards we went, to the Hole of Horcum for a drum up. I knew we were near when the wind picked up and it got cold.
More tea/coffee and cake were consumed, no hanging around though, once consumed and comfort break had by all those that needed them we moved on, aiming for Blue bank. Nerves were starting to show, the road looking nicely damp, my pannier waving around a bit in the wind (I lost the bottom clip so it unweighted the bike at the worst times, like corners and roundabouts :( ). At the layby at the top of blue bank, it was decided that we should do the honorable thing and let ladies go first!! Well, more specifically, ladies on recumbents. So Kim went first and we followed at safe distances. About halfway down I lost my confidence and decided to bail out into the sandbank. This was partly due to the pannier issue and a coupld of near passes by vans as we went down the bank, as well as the slippy, wet road.
Once in Sleights I re-mounted and rode through the pretty village, thinking "the other guys must be here somewhere" but once again the group had been fragmented. After passing over the River Esk I found one of the group, growingvegetables, waiting by a rod junction, good man. We discussed wether to go up the big bank or to follow the river valley into Whitby. CrinklyUncle and Phantasmagoria joined us and the vote was for follow the river valley. So off we went, through picture perfect lanes and villages towards Whitby. Fatal mistake here, I forgot to let the other group know we had done this, so they waited for a bit and eventually one reversed the route to see if we had a problem. The first group (us) arrived at cafe, after a few false turns and quizzing a taxi driver, at about 7:10, just as CrinklyUncle got a phone call asking where we were. Three of the other group then rode down to meet us, with the last one coming back over ground he had covered once already that day. Lots of food was eaten, very bad coffee drunk and then goodbyes said. Oh and the small hip flask of very very nice rum that I had carried the whoile way in my bar bag was consumed by myself and SFUN. It was just the right temperature, i.e. COLD.
I returned via Middlesborough, getting home just over 12 hours after I had left. Saturday consisted of me sleeping, visiting the hospital to collect Mrs T (she had had a funny turn whilst out shopping) then more sleeping.
I enjoyed myself, it was chilly in places, but I never felt really cold.
A few stats:
Distance covered: 51.45 miles
Elevation gained: 2420 ft (>1700 of it AFTER Pickering)
Time taken (including stops): 7h10m
Cake eaten : LOTS
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Finally surfacing – after a VERY good night's sleep. Feeling fit and ready to get on the bike for a wee ride after breakfast. :facepalm:
Well – I've finally done my first night time ride. NOW I know what people get out of it - just brilliant. Wow. Another convert :) ;D
Hey – huge thanks to everybody in the group!
And for those followed that gentle road down the river in to Whitby, I do most solemnly promise that, before I ever think of slagging off GPS again, I WILL check on a paper map! Eeeeh – those last wee hills going round Whitby; ****, I could SEE them - and they wiped out what little energy I had left.
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So you made it to Scab ok to get your train home then?
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Oh aye!
I should be able to tell you about the heroic efforts my legs went to, down that old railway path from Whitby to Scarborough ............. but I can't! :o
That last bit of energy for that last bit; will screwed up against the worsening weather; "I've gotta move now ... I can sleep when I get on the train in Scarborough"
..................................................... and some kind souls offer a lift. God bless 'em.
Basic fact in GCSE Chemistry - O(l) = E+J
(Offer of lift = Energy evaporation + jelly for willpower!)
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And the last of us have packed up and cleaned up the holiday "cottage" and are on our way. I have heard from our Belgian correspondent that he successfully navigated via hornsea to hull and is now waiting for boarding. What a splendid weekend that was!
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..................................................... and some kind souls offer a lift. God bless 'em.
It was a pleasure. MFWHTBAB was most chuffed to find that his car could accomodate a Street Machine and three uprights, and an Arch, while the rest of the bodies went with CrinklyAuntie.
It was a splendid weekend. There was good food, good company, a beach and amazing views in an amazing house. What more could one ask for?
Well, a kettle capable of coming to the boil in less than a day, but hey ho.....
Special thanks to CrinklyLion for organdizing us all, and providing CAKE.
Which reminds me, I have something in my Brom bag to unpack....
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Another great night ride - thanks, folks. Every time I sign up for a night ride I have a minor panic the evening before. Do I really want to spend a sleepless night plodging through the rain when I would be much happier tucked up in bed? Does this all make sense? Then I remind myself of the fun I had last time and put my doubts behind me.
What were the high and low points for me this time? In no particular order:
1) Realising that I had to leave home for the station in 15 minutes, rather than and hour and 15 minutes... At this stage the bike had no lights or rear wheel (I was mending a puncture) and I hadn't changed, found any food or attached the bike bling, Somehow I made it to the station in time, though it was my bling that remained on the kitchen table.
2) Meeting new friends and also seeing old faces again. I think we had four people for whom it was their first YACF night ride
3) I also have to confess that it was I who had the clipless moment. I was waiting by the side of the road at the time, standing with my right foot clipped in and my left on the ground. I made the mistake of trying to multitask - looking over your shoulder to see what's happening behind you whilst scratching your arse is not something to be attempted lightly. I failed... On my way down I managed to put my knee through the front mudguard. It took a few minutes to realise that the front wheel was no longer turning because the mudguard safety clip had released and I then spent a frantic 2 minutes hunting down the aforementioned piece of plastic before eventually finding it in the gutter.
4) Finding out what mad Belgian Audaxers do when they are waiting around for a few minutes (see below for the answer).
5) Climbing Sleights Bank twice and also starting an attempt to ride UP Blue Bank having already come down it earlier in the evening. Fortunately the phone call advising me that what had been the tail of the party were already in the cafe at the finish and I could come back arrived just before I got to the 1 in 4 bit.
6) The rain threatening all night, but never actually arriving (although - to look at my photos it looks as if there must have been some - lots of rain drops on the camera lens)
As usual on a night ride - most of the photos were a disaster. I've linked to the only three worth showing:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2W3WYX_Msq8/TrbFfmjb1aI/AAAAAAAABQo/IoIeh7IHwfY/s912/P1060079.JPG)
Route discussions early on in the night
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2xf2qv7b_7I/TrbFd-UTVuI/AAAAAAAABQk/Z-YVdNCffXE/s912/P1060082.JPG)
Kim and mcshroom chewing the cud
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-4ciRUZG7Wz0/TrbFcfDhGXI/AAAAAAAABQg/sfU-tTNYu3c/s912/P1060081.JPG)
Sven, our mad Belgian audaxer having 5 minutes shuteye
It is interesting to note that two passing car drivers stopped to see if he was ok...
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Well, that was the least riding I have ever done on cycling weekend! Still I did more then Arch did in the end. I rode Tiddles a few hundred yards to the carpark to get the car!;D
It was a most lovely weekend and really nice to meet everyone, albeit briefly. I enjoyed being useful, fettling Sven's brakes and providing cycle transport. Maybe next time I should sort out addional cycle space on the roof bars and maybe a supporting 'Tea and Cake' trailer for the run itself! ;)
Thank you to CrinklyLion for wonderful organsing of food and accomodation, that was great. :)
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I'm currently uploading my paltry collection of dodgy cameraphone pics, and hoping that others did better. And REALLY hoping that someone got That Photo in front of the fire.
Even though I didn't ride, that was a fab weekend. Grand to see everyone and make a few new acquaintances. I particularly liked the conversation in front of the fire with GrowingVegetables. "So, do I remember right that this is your first night ride?" I asked.
"Yes," he replied with a rather large smile. "But definitely not my last!"
Incidentally, every family holiday should come with an Arch - queen of the teapot, and got up with my kids this morning so that (after getting up before 5 to make sure SFUN was in the land of the living and on his way) I actually got to go back to bed and lie in til after 9! Mind, a MFWHTBAB is rather handy too. Likes washing up, entertaining small people, fixing random audaxers' brakes and mending assorted Stuffs in endearingly wobbly rented houses. And indulgent CrinklyUncles who are prepared to be buried in sand and CrinklyAunties who will spend hours playing on beaches with every appearance of good cheer in November are not to be sneezed at either, altho they may end up sneezing.... Suffice to say that a jolly fine time was had by me and the cubs.
It has to be said that SFUN must win the prize for the biggest Silly_Bike_Adventure ever. Travelling overnight on a ferry from another country, in order to ride the 1079 from Hull to York (I told him not to, honest!) and meet a bunch of complete strangers and go bike riding and cake eating with them because somebody you met on BPB told you it would be fun? Bonkers. And when you add in not having a passport 2 days before setting off, or a return ticket or much real clue of how you're getting back, acidentally having a rather 'sociable' evening before setting off which may have been a factor in the minor off in the first 10 miles towards the ferry - not to mention only having started cycling a year ago and (apart from audaxes which don't really count do they?) not actually having done a lot (possibly any) of group riding.... bonkers. Utterly, gloriously, brilliantly bonkers!
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I'm currently uploading my paltry collection of dodgy cameraphone pics, and hoping that others did better. And REALLY hoping that someone got That Photo in front of the fire.
(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/cycling/IMG_20111105_085051.sized.jpg)
Quite an inadvertently arty photo for such a shite camera, I think. Unfortunately, no amount of image processing will render the half-finished bottle of beer recognisable as such.
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My photos (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150379766711839.371925.551606838&type=1&l=0b9c4a9778) are indeed dreadful... but you might like these
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/393493_10150379767976839_551606838_7995799_106225092_n.jpg)
(http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/301077_10150379768091839_551606838_7995800_904025115_n.jpg)
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/380395_10150379768276839_551606838_7995804_102639934_n.jpg)
(http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/393629_10150379768366839_551606838_7995807_666423750_n.jpg)
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/305877_10150379768451839_551606838_7995810_748921137_n.jpg)
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I'm currently uploading my paltry collection of dodgy cameraphone pics, and hoping that others did better. And REALLY hoping that someone got That Photo in front of the fire.
Do you mean this one?
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6096/6319651658_4e21ebc4e0.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59866846@N02/6319651658/)
DSCN2729 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59866846@N02/6319651658/) by Panticle (http://www.flickr.com/people/59866846@N02/), on Flickr
showing how our superb British infrastructure runs rings round the Europeans...
Or the Kim version:
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6102/6319125303_7b7c749960.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59866846@N02/6319125303/)
DSCN2731 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59866846@N02/6319125303/) by Panticle (http://www.flickr.com/people/59866846@N02/), on Flickr
Of course once the littles were in bed, the Experts took over:
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6111/6319120677_68821cfc84.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59866846@N02/6319120677/)
DSCN2738 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59866846@N02/6319120677/) by Panticle (http://www.flickr.com/people/59866846@N02/), on Flickr
The house was absolutely lovely. I couldn't live there, with views like this I'd never get anything done!
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6042/6319136771_263379557e.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59866846@N02/6319136771/)
DSCN2746 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59866846@N02/6319136771/) by Panticle (http://www.flickr.com/people/59866846@N02/), on Flickr
And of course, there was that excellent long window, which could be looked up from the first landing, and down from the second...
(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6096/6319664010_4f03bdb26c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59866846@N02/6319664010/)
DSCN2745 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/59866846@N02/6319664010/) by Panticle (http://www.flickr.com/people/59866846@N02/), on Flickr
Fabulous weekend. Depsite a rotten cold which reduced my voice to a croak (not that it stopped me talking of course!) and apparently made me breathe like an asthmatic rhinocerous in the night, I had a fabulous time. Just the exact right proportions of sitting about doing nowt, and doing stuff, in excellent company. Some of it, awake!
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Three photos:
Arch and an Arch.
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/Eversley/DSC_0132.jpg)
The contents of the fridges:
Cake!
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/Eversley/DSC_0127.jpg)
Beer!
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/Eversley/DSC_0128.jpg)
Typo in the beach graffiti:
Don't know if you can see it but it says 'Anarchy+Mercedes=smiliey face!
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/Eversley/DSC_0129.jpg)
Big hole in the ground on the way back!
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/Eversley/DSC_0134.jpg)
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That reminds me, SFUN asked me and SlowCoach what the Hole Of Horcum was.
My answer? "A hole" :) Ok, it was 04:00 and we had ridden 40 miles, and I was cold. I don't think he missed the humour....
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Does anyone have a picture of Sven actually cycling? I'm not convinced you lot didn't just tow his sleeping form around and plonk him down for comedy photos. ;)
Looks like a fantastic time was that, though! :thumbsup:
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(sigh)
Thanks for posting your pics folk, so us Workers can have vicarious fun! :thumbsup:
It look like the most stupendous fun.
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Big hole in the ground on the way back!
(http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/Eversley/DSC_0134.jpg)
Ah, so that's what it looks like.
It was dark, so I failed to spot it, otherwise I would of course have shouted "Hole!"
And I mean *seriously* dark. I've been on plenty of moonless night rides on roads away from built-up areas before, but they were nothing compared to how seriously mind-bogglingly dark it was at some points on this ride. I spent large parts of the night acutely aware that I was perched atop a bicycle, itself perched atop a planet, with nothing but a handful of LEDs and all-you-can-condense water vapour for company. Anything outside the beams might as well not have existed. It was more than a bit sinister.
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Does anyone have a picture of Sven actually cycling?
checks camera.... err, no - but I do have this one of him upright
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-TLyAfI_wfKA/TrcDOnFccyI/AAAAAAAABQw/fYpXqYKwyp0/s576/P1060080.JPG)
this just goes to show that he can sleep standing on his feet as well ::-)
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I've just checked the tracklog, and discovered that Sven and I reached the top of the hill on the A169 just outside Whitby at 06:33, (shortly followed by mcshroom and SlowCoach) and didn't set off again until 07:17. That much standing around in what can only be described as a cloud goes a long way to explaining why the prospect of a nice warm ambulance seemed momentarily tempting when those motorists stopped to offer assistance. :o
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Ah, so that's what it looks like.
I had to check with Arch, as we approached it, that 'Hole of Horcome' was spelt without a W. I was imagining something like the part of Snake Pass where you can see the Whole of Glossop!
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It was dark, so I failed to spot it, otherwise I would of course have shouted "Hole!"
A joke made by the EldestCub when we stopped to look at it on the way home. He's obviously been hanging around with cyclists for long enough.
It is amazing, remembering last year, how one can utterly fail to see such a thing in the dark (becoz it's dark, innit). But then on the Scarborough ride, I totally failed to see Lord Wotsit's Tower, despite the fact that we had a cake stop virtually under it. It was an astonishment on the way home!
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That was fun! :D As someone who does most of my cycling in and around the flatlands of York, the prospect of hills was rather scary, and I'm very glad I took the hybrid and finally got (lots of) use out of the 23" gear. Of course there were downhills too - going down Blue Bank in the dark, with not-that-great lights and a lack of trust in my brake fettling skills, was interesting - rather glad I went down last as I may have set a new record for the slowest speed travelled down a 1-in-4 hill. :o
MFWHTBAB's picture makes the Hole of Horcum look lovely - might have to do it in daylight sometime.
Thanks to all involved - especially tiermat for leading the ride, MFWHTBAB and CrinklyAuntie for the transport back to Scarborough, growingvegetables for the spare bottle of water when I stupidly left mine in the fridge (why on earth did I think chilling it was necessary? :facepalm: ) and CrinklyLion for cake! The house in Whitby was absolutely lovely, too. :thumbsup:
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That reminds me, SFUN asked me and SlowCoach what the Hole Of Horcum was.
My answer? "A hole" :) Ok, it was 04:00 and we had ridden 40 miles, and I was cold. I don't think he missed the humour....
There is a local legend that states that the Hole was made by a stroppy giant1, but really it's just a dirty great hole. The walk around the top to Levisham and then back through the bottom of the Hole is also very pleasant, even if the climb up the side is bastard steep.
1 - http://www.wonderfulwhitby.co.uk/holeofhorcum.html
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That photo of that there Whitby cant be right. Its supposed to have dark grey horizontal wet stuff in the foreground eliminating all that crystal clear detail.
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That photo of that there Whitby cant be right. Its supposed to have dark grey horizontal wet stuff in the foreground eliminating all that crystal clear detail.
Those of us who waited at the top of the hill on the A169 absorbed it all while the others were having an early breakfast :P