Yet Another Cycling Forum
Random Musings => Gallery => Phototalk => Topic started by: andrewc on 07 January, 2012, 02:40:34 pm
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http://www.seriouscompacts.com/f38/fuji-x-pro-1-fully-leaked-french-magazine-responses-photo-5675/ (http://www.seriouscompacts.com/f38/fuji-x-pro-1-fully-leaked-french-magazine-responses-photo-5675/)
More shiny...
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Interesting, I wonder if it will be Nikon F mount like the Fujifilm S3 Pro.
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Ooh looks lovely.
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Interesting, I wonder if it will be Nikon F mount like the Fujifilm S3 Pro.
Sadly apparently not. Were it an EVIL camera that I could use F mount lenses on, I'd sell my grandmother for one.
Still, it looks rather nice, doesn't it? It's got the same lovely retro look to my X10, but with an APS-C sensor anna proper viewfinder.
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Oooh!
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Slightly larger (http://photorumors.com/2012/01/07/fuji-x-pro-1-xf-lens-details-pictures-of-the-new-ef-x20-flash-and-lc-xpro1-leather-case/) than the X100. There is also a mention of a lens adaptor for Leica glass.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gzREBGKUFI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gzREBGKUFI)
Pretty..
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Sadly apparently not. Were it an EVIL camera that I could use F mount lenses on, I'd sell my grandmother for one.
If it took Leica M mount lenses I'd buy her if she came with one!
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If it took Leica M mount lenses I'd buy her if she came with one!
A Leica M-mount adapter is also on the way.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/11/fujifilm-x-pro1-interchangeable-lens-camera-preview-video/
X-Pro1 vs M9
http://www.dpreview.com/previews/fujifilmxpro1/images/sbsm9p.jpg
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A Leica M-mount adapter is also on the way.
Oh my. This camera is going to sell like hot hash cakes.
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*weak at the knees* :-\
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Certainly eye wateringly pricey, starting at ~£1980.
http://www.dpreview.com/news/2012/02/02/Fujifilm_X-Pro1_price
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A cyclists review of the X Pro-1. He just says he likes it, but some nice pics with some serious facial hair in a few of them :D
http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2012/07/guest-review-kevin-sparrow-discusses-the-fuji-x-pro1-and-cycling/ (http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2012/07/guest-review-kevin-sparrow-discusses-the-fuji-x-pro1-and-cycling/)
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A cyclists review of the X Pro-1. He just says he likes it, but some nice pics with some serious facial hair in a few of them :D
http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2012/07/guest-review-kevin-sparrow-discusses-the-fuji-x-pro1-and-cycling/ (http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2012/07/guest-review-kevin-sparrow-discusses-the-fuji-x-pro1-and-cycling/)
Clicked on this page, AVAST said it blocked a trojan.
Infection Details
URL: prollyisnotprobably.com/|{gzip}
Process: C:\Program Files\Mozilla Firefox\firefox...
Infection: JS:Redirector-MA [Trj]
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Eeek! I didn't get any warnings, using Firefox on a Mac.
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Having now had a go on one (there's a Magnum photographer in the village..) I think I'm going to flog my DSLR kit and get one...
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I was at a wedding today and noticed the photographer was using a couple of X pro 1s
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They must be ideal - the colour rendition, skin tones and, in particular, the superb dynamic range control are streets ahead of anything Nikon makes. Hell, there's even an NPH emulation mode..
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Interesting - as the Fujifilm S5 Pro (and earlier) SLR's strong point was/is supposed to be skin tones. I guess mainly due to the sensor/raw data extraction?
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Reading into some of the reviews, I think the X Pro-1 needs a bit of work before I could/would consider it as a viable replacement for the dSLR, which is a pity.
Slow AF and clumsy MF are real negatives for me in my style of shooting. The camera's RAW format isn't too well supported either due to the unconventional sensor so I'd want to play about with some RAW files.
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I don't view it as a replacement or a Dslr, even though it's going to be. It seems to be better at some things and worse at others.
For news and sports nothing will touch an SLR for capturing fleeting dynamic moments, but for portraits, social photography, travel stuff, in other words all the things I tend to do, I think the Fuji is going to do a better job. Image quality is very important for me and the Fuji seems to match the resolution of full frame DSLRs while giving the quality of colour rendition and pleasing look of a Leica. That's no mean feat. Add very clever on-the-fly dynamic range adjustment and superb in-camera Jpeg conversion and a lot of the perceived negatives disappear.
The focusing, at least with the 35 1.4 is absolutely fine (I think the latest firmware has improved things since early review samples). This is, however, an issue for me and I wish it would focus like a D4, but you can't have everything.
The big plus is it's a lot smaller than a D300 and 17-55, which is impracticably big either on a bike or when carrying ten tons of baby crap around. The old adage that the best camera is the one you have with you comes into play for me.
The one real downside is a 300-ish shot battery life, so the one I just ordered will come with a spare battery..
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Guess I'm a smidge jealous really!
I'd perhaps trade it for the D200 + 18-105* I take most places with me .. but I couldn't really afford/justify the cash difference.
And Judging by the price, I'd expect either to have very good AF or MF .. there still seems to be a lot of doubt about the AF ability with the longer 60mm lens which is an important focal length, for me personally.
*Might go back to carrying my D40 around (instead of selling it) with the 35mm prime when I've found the cash to send it off for a sensor clean**
**I know I should do it myself, but I just don't have time.
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http://www.seriouscompacts.com/f38/meet-fuji-x-e1-12031/ (http://www.seriouscompacts.com/f38/meet-fuji-x-e1-12031/)
A cheaper version, and there are rumours of a more advanced/expensive version as well. http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/vendors/fuji/ (http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/vendors/fuji/)
Had a fondle of an X100 in John Lewis recently, marked down as that's apparently due for replacement as well.
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I've read the rumours about a more expensive one. I have also heard that a major firmware upgrade is on the way for the one. We'll have to wait for Photokina I guess. With a wedding looming in September, ICBA to wait and see..
It will be a bummer if the cheaper one focusses faster though..
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First impressions..
A little quirky, but handles wonderfully and has image quality to die for..
More to follow but here are a few tasters with the 35 mm f1.4
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8305/7900215702_fa067e28c0_z_d.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8031/7900212364_8f941c1e7a_z_d.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8456/7900209630_f809c149bb_z_d.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8182/7900206196_616b028038_z_d.jpg)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8318/7900202902_3462ce5a62_z_d.jpg)
All straight out of the camera, jpegs in either Velvia or Provia mode. The couple of tourists were taken from the hip and had no idea I had taken a shot of them.
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Fab looking shots there, Tewders. I had a play with exactly the same setup at a shop on the way out of Heathrow last night and had to remind myself that I already have Lots Of Nice Cameras...
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The one in the shop was probably on firmware 1.00, which is how they ship. I upgraded to 1.11 this morning and it's a different camera. It's still a bit buggy, but fantastically useable. Give it six months and it will probably be a modern classic.
They definitely beta tested it with their customers though.
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http://www.photographyblog.com/news/fujifilm_x-pro1_firmware_update_2.00/ (http://www.photographyblog.com/news/fujifilm_x-pro1_firmware_update_2.00/) Firmware version 2.0
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Thanks for that Andrew - I'll be upgrading as soon as it is relaeased.
I've taken to working in Jpg, Astia emulation, +1 saturation. You realise how futile your efforts are to get raw conversions as good once you discover that little secret.
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OK, I'm on firmware 2.0! Off to Pembrokeshire to test it out tomorrow, but it does seem a lot more responsive now.
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OK, that's a lot better! The autofocus performance and shutter lag are much improved with the new firmware and it's now a very capable performer indeed. The low light performance now is just stunning, a complete game changer. I was shooting loads of pictures In near darkness one evening in a hotel and you just don't need flash. Stick this thing on f1.4, auto ISO maximum 6400, automatic dynamic range control and it will take noise free, sharp pictures of a crow in a coal cellar. It's phenomenal.
Manual focus now works very quickly and is very useable. With the fearsome sharpness and wide aperture potential of the 35mm lens, it's nice to get your subject's eyes in focus rather than the end of their nose...
I've standardised on Astia emulation mode, colour +1, which gives a nicely saturated result but with a gentleness and warmth that is very endearing. Combine that with the pleasant bokeh and you get consistently good results. There are very few times that RAW is needed; indeed there's an argument with this sensor to let fujis own algorithms just get on with it. (The funny sensor layout makes it an absolute bugger to write raw converters for, apparently)
It won't do everything that a decent DSLR will do, the shutter lag is still there in a very small amount if you haven't first prefocussed, and it will never have very long lenses, and the battery life is quite short, but for my current photographic needs it's ideal. If you want a paparazzi sniper or sports camera look elsewhere, but for street photography, most social stuff and anything involving low light I don't think you can do much better.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8040/8023096612_bfda74062e_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62243080@N02/8023096612/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62243080@N02/8023096612/) by tewdric (http://www.flickr.com/people/62243080@N02/), on Flickr
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8031/8023098496_0f3f94d727_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62243080@N02/8023098496/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62243080@N02/8023098496/) by tewdric (http://www.flickr.com/people/62243080@N02/), on Flickr
There are some tasty looking lenses on the way too.
http://www.optyczne.pl/5155-nowość-Prototypowe_obiektywy_dla_systemu_Fujifilm_X.html
I originally thought this camera's killer selling point would be Leica M Mount compatibility. Now I think it is its own lenses that will make people want it.
Overall, very happy chappy here. It's a camera for photographers who prefer photographs to cameras..
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You make a compelling argument for wanting one.
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It's a shame about the battery performance though. I've just bought an X100 and exhausted the battery on that with approx 220 shots. I've got a spare, but it means the camera won't be going on extended tour. I know that my Pentax SLR is good for a couple of weeks on a single battery.
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Tewdric - could you post some EXIF data for those pics?
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Yes I'll link the full res ones when Iget a minute - they are straight out of the camera but imported via the IPad, so are automatically resized when imported. I don't think it fiddles with colour settings but they do look a lot better on a big calibrated monitor!
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Full res example straight out of the camera:
(it's not perfectly sharp but illustrates the look and feel of the images- hand held at arms length!)
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8181/8043462736_e48fa91735_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62243080@N02/8043462736/)
DSCF0982 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62243080@N02/8043462736/) by tewdric (http://www.flickr.com/people/62243080@N02/), on Flickr
Exif:
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OOI Auto ISO? ISO 800 looks good.
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Yes auto ISO - I set the max at 6400 and let it get on with I most of the time, also auto HDR. I wouldn't normally dream of such heresy but it really does just work - as well and, in most cases, better than I could do shooting raw and spending half an hour in Lightroom and Photoshop.
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Yes auto ISO - I set the max at 6400 and let it get on with I most of the time, also auto HDR. I wouldn't normally dream of such heresy but it really does just work - as well and, in most cases, better than I could do shooting raw and spending half an hour in Lightroom and Photoshop.
I feel as though I'm in a time warp... ;)
Re Auto-ISO, I wonder why Fujifilm never had a firmware update to fix the lack of a user definable minimum shutter speed in A-I. I gather it's set to 1/40s or summat.
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With the X Pro 2 in the wings, there are a couple of seriously tempting offers out there for the X Pro 1. Having spent a useful half hour in one of the few remaining Scottish Jessops earlier in the week, I'm seriously tempted ...
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I'm seriously tempted ...
me too
the body is free with the 18mm and 27mm lens (wish it was the 35mm) and the full leather case. I'm thinking of buying it as a spare body to complement the xt10, as an alternative to buying the xt1. I could then get the 35mm too ;D I don't need it for action shots so it'll just be plopped on top a tripod every now and then, and it'll save me changing the lenses.
I've played with an xt1 today, feels special. The only thing to put me off getting one, the rubber was coming away from the body :o this is a fairly new camera! It felt really nice in my hands though.