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General Category => Freewheeling => Topic started by: Redlight on 08 October, 2014, 11:47:29 am

Title: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Redlight on 08 October, 2014, 11:47:29 am

What does the panel think of this?

http://www.vanhawks.com/ (http://www.vanhawks.com/)

The production model will come with disc brakes, by the way.

About a grand with shipping etc. 

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: hatler on 08 October, 2014, 11:50:27 am

That last photo has been reversed.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Jaded on 08 October, 2014, 11:52:12 am

I'd be suspicious...

none of the photos have a whole back wheel in them!

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: hatler on 08 October, 2014, 11:53:39 am

No mudguards.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: LEE on 08 October, 2014, 11:53:50 am

Does it have an App to warn you when the saddle is too low?  It needs one.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Woofage on 08 October, 2014, 12:02:44 pm

Quote from: hatler on 08 October, 2014, 11:53:39 am

No mudguards.

I noticed that too - a bit of an omission for a "commuting bike". No fittings for a rack either.

I guess the needs of real-world commuting and utility cyclists are at odds with the slick image of the [electronic & software] technologies on offer.

Nice looking bike though.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: hatler on 08 October, 2014, 12:04:35 pm

Producing a utility bike without including such obvious things always smacks to me of a designer who really has little understanding of the context in which their design is to be used.

Fail.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Charlotte on 08 October, 2014, 12:06:04 pm

I wouldn't even think of buying one until it had integrated indicator lights, an espresso cup holder and a built in video camera with automated hipstermatic Instagram filters.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Woofage on 08 October, 2014, 12:10:25 pm

Thinking about it, since it has proximity sensors, why not couple this with a f*ck off big SPIKE (carbon fibre, natch) that automagically shreds the panels of cars passing too close?

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 08 October, 2014, 12:11:45 pm

I think it's been designed by someone who'd been sacked from Microsoft.

What most surprises me though is that all of the photos show a helmetless rider. Very behind trend.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: hatler on 08 October, 2014, 12:29:55 pm

I also despair of technology being deployed unnecessarily.

Vehicle too close ?  What about using your ears, looking over your shoulder, or even fitting a mirror ?

No, don't be ridiculous, let's build in some electronics, that's properly geeky (and we can charge more).

I bet the person who designed this isn't an engineer, but a design student.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Kim on 08 October, 2014, 12:36:38 pm

I quite like the idea of haptic feedback through the handlebars, but I'm struggling to think of useful information for it to convey

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Jaded on 08 October, 2014, 12:38:02 pm

How bumpy the road surface is?

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on 08 October, 2014, 12:39:42 pm

I'm keen on the turn navigation indication on the bars. The rest of it is not very interesting.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: fields5069 on 08 October, 2014, 12:54:47 pm

So I would ride to work, and on the A38 bit the handlebars would basically always be vibrating. Nice.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Dibdib on 08 October, 2014, 12:56:15 pm

So instead of looking at a GPS on the bars or listening to spoken instructions through earbuds, you can "keep your eyes on the road" by... looking at LEDs on the handlebars.  :facepalm:

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: hatler on 08 October, 2014, 01:01:38 pm

Surely the route indication is something that would benefit from haptic technology.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: fuaran on 08 October, 2014, 01:10:58 pm

There have been a few previous systems with GPS navigation using LEDs on the bars. eg Hammerhead (though not sure if that's actually available yet): http://hammerhead.io/
I think it does make some sense, its quicker/easier to just glance at an LED to get the direction, instead of trying to read a little screen on a GPS device.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: LEE on 08 October, 2014, 01:21:12 pm

Quote from: hatler on 08 October, 2014, 12:29:55 pm

I also despair of technology being deployed unnecessarily.

You'll probably love this then:

WHITE ORAL-B PRO 6000 SMARTSERIES TOOTHBRUSH WITH BLUETOOTH® CONNECTIVITY

(I shit you not)

Blue Teeth?

Quote

• SmartSeries features Bluetooth 4.0 technology that connects to the Oral-B App** and provides real-time guidance to track your results, customise your brushing and provide entertainment.

"Hey Dave! Want to see my tooth-brushing results for the 2nd Quarter?  They're up 15% in real terms over 1st Quarter"

I bet the person who pitched the idea of a "connected toothbrush" to the CEO wasn't sure if he'd get promoted or get the sack on the spot.

Are Razors "connected" yet.  Braun make those also so it can't be far off. 

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 08 October, 2014, 01:28:21 pm

Quote from: LEE on 08 October, 2014, 01:21:12 pm

Quote from: hatler on 08 October, 2014, 12:29:55 pm

I also despair of technology being deployed unnecessarily.

You'll probably love this then:

WHITE ORAL-B PRO 6000 SMARTSERIES TOOTHBRUSH WITH BLUETOOTH® CONNECTIVITY

(I shit you not)

Blue Teeth?

Quote

• SmartSeries features Bluetooth 4.0 technology that connects to the Oral-B App** and provides real-time guidance to track your results, customise your brushing and provide entertainment.

Oh. My. Days.

I am now faced by a great existential quandary - to spend the rest of my life in a monastery or in a jungle? Actually, it's got to be the jungle, I bet the monks have bluetooth vespers connectivity in the cloisters and communion wafer proximity apps.

But first, I'll brush my teeth.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Kim on 08 October, 2014, 01:48:57 pm

Quote from: Cudzoziemiec on 08 October, 2014, 01:28:21 pm

Quote from: LEE on 08 October, 2014, 01:21:12 pm

Quote from: hatler on 08 October, 2014, 12:29:55 pm

I also despair of technology being deployed unnecessarily.

You'll probably love this then:

WHITE ORAL-B PRO 6000 SMARTSERIES TOOTHBRUSH WITH BLUETOOTH® CONNECTIVITY

(I shit you not)

Blue Teeth?

Quote

• SmartSeries features Bluetooth 4.0 technology that connects to the Oral-B App** and provides real-time guidance to track your results, customise your brushing and provide entertainment.

Oh. My. Days.

Might encourage kids to brush their teeth properly, thobut.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: T42 on 08 October, 2014, 01:56:02 pm

Quote

Keeping your eyes on the road The Valour will guide you through each turn with LED indicators on the handlebar

How do I see the effing bars if I've got my eyes on the road?

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 08 October, 2014, 02:00:42 pm

Quote from: Kim on 08 October, 2014, 01:48:57 pm

Quote from: Cudzoziemiec on 08 October, 2014, 01:28:21 pm

Quote from: LEE on 08 October, 2014, 01:21:12 pm

Quote from: hatler on 08 October, 2014, 12:29:55 pm

I also despair of technology being deployed unnecessarily.

You'll probably love this then:

WHITE ORAL-B PRO 6000 SMARTSERIES TOOTHBRUSH WITH BLUETOOTH® CONNECTIVITY

(I shit you not)

Blue Teeth?

Quote

• SmartSeries features Bluetooth 4.0 technology that connects to the Oral-B App** and provides real-time guidance to track your results, customise your brushing and provide entertainment.

Oh. My. Days.

Might encourage kids to brush their teeth properly, thobut.

They're alright, they run green, keep their teeth nice and clean

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Vince on 08 October, 2014, 02:06:00 pm

Quote from: Kim on 08 October, 2014, 01:48:57 pm

Quote from: Cudzoziemiec on 08 October, 2014, 01:28:21 pm

Quote from: LEE on 08 October, 2014, 01:21:12 pm

Quote from: hatler on 08 October, 2014, 12:29:55 pm

I also despair of technology being deployed unnecessarily.

You'll probably love this then:

WHITE ORAL-B PRO 6000 SMARTSERIES TOOTHBRUSH WITH BLUETOOTH® CONNECTIVITY

(I shit you not)

Blue Teeth?

Quote

• SmartSeries features Bluetooth 4.0 technology that connects to the Oral-B App** and provides real-time guidance to track your results, customise your brushing and provide entertainment.

Oh. My. Days.

Might encourage kids to brush their teeth properly, thobut.

Nah, it would take them about a minute to work out how to get the high score without the brush going anywhere near their teeth.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Kim on 08 October, 2014, 02:07:38 pm

Quote from: Vince on 08 October, 2014, 02:06:00 pm

Nah, it would take them about a minute to work out how to get the high score without the brush going anywhere near their teeth.

I didn't want to mention the possible teledildonics applications...

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Kim on 08 October, 2014, 02:11:57 pm

Quote from: Charlotte on 08 October, 2014, 12:06:04 pm

I wouldn't even think of buying one until it had integrated indicator lights

http://www.ridehelios.com/

You'll have to provide your own tragic hipster accessories.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: hatler on 08 October, 2014, 02:12:28 pm

Quote from: LEE on 08 October, 2014, 01:21:12 pm

You'll probably love this then:

WHITE ORAL-B PRO 6000 SMARTSERIES TOOTHBRUSH WITH BLUETOOTH® CONNECTIVITY

Oh dear god.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: caerau on 08 October, 2014, 02:13:11 pm

From 2006  ;D


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brU_Pp-20g0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brU_Pp-20g0)




This needs a follow up sketch...

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on 08 October, 2014, 02:20:17 pm

Quote from: Kim on 08 October, 2014, 02:07:38 pm

Quote from: Vince on 08 October, 2014, 02:06:00 pm

Nah, it would take them about a minute to work out how to get the high score without the brush going anywhere near their teeth.

I didn't want to mention the possible teledildonics applications...

There's a word I look forward to seeing in the next OED.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: velosam on 08 October, 2014, 02:22:23 pm

Quote from: fields5069 on 08 October, 2014, 12:54:47 pm

So I would ride to work, and on the A38 bit the handlebars would basically always be vibrating. Nice.

I dont know, think about it as massage therapy to prevent aching shoulders and wrists. TBH the vibration thing should extend to the seat as well.

On a more practical note - does it have integrated lights, options for mudguards, racks etc. And where is the G meter and the electric motor for when you are tired.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Mr Larrington on 08 October, 2014, 03:02:07 pm

Quote from: Redlight on 08 October, 2014, 11:47:29 am

What does the panel think of this?

"Garbage" by "Designer".  Again.

I look forward to the day when "The Bike of the Future" appears in the form of "Bicycle" by "Cyclist" but I'm not holding my breath.

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Andrij on 08 October, 2014, 03:29:03 pm

My "bike of the future" will look something like this:

(click to show/hide)

(http://bikebuilder.brompton.com/admin/CImage.ashx?fast=106e2074,93e1829,105e2064,91e1806,92e1811,104e2041,87e1773,96e1869,97e1874,88e1785,90e1804,98e1884,102e1935,99e1907,89e1796,94e1861,95e1866,100e1921,112e2152,101e2148,111e1924,103e1937,&w=1000)
OK, perhaps "future bike" is more accurate.  (Well, as some point in the future.)  And it's more sensible/practical than the OP.
 

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: sojournermike on 08 October, 2014, 05:37:18 pm

Quote from: Kim on 08 October, 2014, 01:48:57 pm

Quote from: Cudzoziemiec on 08 October, 2014, 01:28:21 pm

Quote from: LEE on 08 October, 2014, 01:21:12 pm

Quote from: hatler on 08 October, 2014, 12:29:55 pm

I also despair of technology being deployed unnecessarily.

You'll probably love this then:

WHITE ORAL-B PRO 6000 SMARTSERIES TOOTHBRUSH WITH BLUETOOTH® CONNECTIVITY

(I shit you not)

Blue Teeth?

Quote

• SmartSeries features Bluetooth 4.0 technology that connects to the Oral-B App** and provides real-time guidance to track your results, customise your brushing and provide entertainment.

Oh. My. Days.

Might encourage kids to brush their teeth properly, thobut.

Only for 3 or 4 days, then it'll be back to the usual 'regime'

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: mr_brooks on 09 October, 2014, 01:04:40 pm

I've already got my bike of the future :-)

I've been playing with adding iBeacon functionality to my Dahon... That gives me 

- BLE iBeacon
- accelerometer
- temperature sensor

with a nifty 3D printed mount for attaching the beacon to the handlebars.

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2950/15299482979_b9455430d1_n.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/piXRgi)estibike (https://flic.kr/p/piXRgi) by johncb1973 (https://www.flickr.com/people/46886827@N05/), on Flickr

Right now I'm just using the accelerometer to sense motion and kick off recording a GPS track on my mobile. When the ride is over (I check a few different things to figure this out) I prompt to (optionally) upload the track to Strava / Garmin Connect etc.

A cheaper way to make a smart bike :-)

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: TimC on 09 October, 2014, 01:18:33 pm

Quote from: Cudzoziemiec on 08 October, 2014, 02:20:17 pm

Quote from: Kim on 08 October, 2014, 02:07:38 pm

Quote from: Vince on 08 October, 2014, 02:06:00 pm

Nah, it would take them about a minute to work out how to get the high score without the brush going anywhere near their teeth.

I didn't want to mention the possible teledildonics applications...

There's a word I look forward to seeing in the next OED.

I think 'there' is already in it?

Title: Re: "The bike of the future"
Post by: Tigerrr on 09 October, 2014, 01:19:36 pm

Bicycles in the future will have pink wheels.