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General Category => Freewheeling => Racing => Topic started by: LittleWheelsandBig on February 05, 2017, 08:54:58 pm

Title: How much do you want to win?
Post by: LittleWheelsandBig on February 05, 2017, 08:54:58 pm
An interesting story of an Aussie track sprinter who wanted to win.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-02-06/sophie-cape-says-experimental-surgeries-left-her-scarred/8189094
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: sg37409 on February 06, 2017, 11:30:20 pm
Holy crap that's incredible.  I understand why, but I could never comprehend chosing that path.
This would have to be the most extreme "win at all costs" thing I've ever seen.
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: hubner on February 06, 2017, 11:57:16 pm
It's just as well that this surgical doping didn't work! As usual, there's official collusion involved, it seems anything that isn't specifically banned will be used. It's all within the rules, no rules were broken!
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: The French Tandem on February 07, 2017, 05:42:33 am
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"That's when we tried the vascular surgery. They thought maybe we could widen the arteries going into the legs," Cape said.

That was probably expected to have the same effect as taking EPO. Frightening!
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: Oranj on February 07, 2017, 08:57:22 am
The vascular operation on the legs is not unknown in elite cyclists. Years of cardiovascular effort with a closed hip angle can produce restrictions and kinks in the arteries. Stuart O'Grady had a similar operation and I recall there have been other cases in the European peloton recently.
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on February 07, 2017, 09:59:43 am
There was a rumour that Armstrong had his shoulders surgically narrowed to make him more aero. He had to have an operation on one anyway due to a break, so had this done at the same time. Or so it is rumoured.

I like that she's now an artist, and possibly more successful at that than she was as an athlete.
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: Ian H on February 07, 2017, 10:48:32 am
The vascular operation on the legs is not unknown in elite cyclists. Years of cardiovascular effort with a closed hip angle can produce restrictions and kinks in the arteries. Stuart O'Grady had a similar operation and I recall there have been other cases in the European peloton recently.

I know of one AUK member with that problem.
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: Exit Stage Left on February 07, 2017, 11:04:40 am
It's the temptations of the Faustian pact that makes professional cycling such an appealing subject. All the column inches on Armstrong derive from that premise, I'm surprised it's not become an opera.

The untainted hero is neglected in comparison. There is always a Corinthian ideal, and the cognoscenti have their favourites. But there is always the question of a flaw in the makeup of those who never step up to the plate as a senior pro.

There are those who think purity and commerce can be reconciled, and Greg Lemond means the world to them.
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: Hot Flatus on February 07, 2017, 11:16:52 am
The vascular operation on the legs is not unknown in elite cyclists. Years of cardiovascular effort with a closed hip angle can produce restrictions and kinks in the arteries. Stuart O'Grady had a similar operation and I recall there have been other cases in the European peloton recently.

I know of one AUK member with that problem.

I use your calf muscles as an alternative map of Wales
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: Ian H on February 07, 2017, 12:10:56 pm
The vascular operation on the legs is not unknown in elite cyclists. Years of cardiovascular effort with a closed hip angle can produce restrictions and kinks in the arteries. Stuart O'Grady had a similar operation and I recall there have been other cases in the European peloton recently.

I know of one AUK member with that problem.

I use your calf muscles as an alternative map of Wales

No wonder you always get lost.
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: offcumden on February 10, 2017, 02:43:45 pm
Wasn't there a female racing-driver back in the 1920s or 30s who had a double mastectomy to enable her to squeeze into the cramped cockpit?  (No, don't even think about it!)

Not sure at what point this sort of body modification would be considered 'cheating'.
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: sojournermike on February 10, 2017, 04:11:38 pm
It's the temptations of the Faustian pact that makes professional cycling such an appealing subject. All the column inches on Armstrong derive from that premise, I'm surprised it's not become an opera.

The untainted hero is neglected in comparison. There is always a Corinthian ideal, and the cognoscenti have their favourites. But there is always the question of a flaw in the makeup of those who never step up to the plate as a senior pro.

There are those who think purity and commerce can be reconciled, and Greg Lemond means the world to them.


Ayrton Senna
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: spesh on February 10, 2017, 05:12:57 pm
Wasn't there a female racing-driver back in the 1920s or 30s who had a double mastectomy to enable her to squeeze into the cramped cockpit?  (No, don't even think about it!)

Not sure at what point this sort of body modification would be considered 'cheating'.

You post correctly - ISTR seeing an article recently, but I'm damned if I can remember where.

<tappity tappity>

Ah, found it: http://jalopnik.com/the-racing-driver-who-cut-off-her-breasts-and-aided-the-1791031217

Violette Morris (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violette_Morris) is the name you were searching for. Quite the life story, but she ultimately chose... poorly... in siding with the Nazis and was gunned down by the Resistance in 1944.
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: offcumden on February 10, 2017, 05:22:36 pm
What an 'interesting' CV  ::-)
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Post by: cygnet on February 10, 2017, 05:24:40 pm
BC mentioned collar bones a while ago, if you think Mr Brailsford wasn't tongue-in-cheek like his "round wheels" comment at London

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/cyclists-take-secret-of-suits-to-shredder-1547673.html (http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/olympics/cyclists-take-secret-of-suits-to-shredder-1547673.html)
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: Ashaman42 on February 10, 2017, 06:52:14 pm
Heh, I read the subline there as "Victorian Olympians destroy their outfits to ensure rivals cannot steal the technology for 2012."

Blimey, that's thinking far ahead.
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: hippy on March 14, 2017, 11:37:48 am
The vascular operation on the legs is not unknown in elite cyclists. Years of cardiovascular effort with a closed hip angle can produce restrictions and kinks in the arteries. Stuart O'Grady had a similar operation and I recall there have been other cases in the European peloton recently.
I know of one AUK member with that problem.

So do I. Quite well. :S
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: Nuncio on March 14, 2017, 12:14:23 pm
I know of one AUK member with that problem.

Wanting to win too much?
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: hippy on March 14, 2017, 12:30:07 pm
I know of one AUK member with that problem.
Wanting to win too much?

Iliac Artery Compression
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: Ian H on March 14, 2017, 12:45:35 pm
I know of one AUK member with that problem.
Wanting to win too much?

Iliac Artery Compression

The person I know had surgery for some kind of sleeve fitted to support the artery.  I read that the operation has a limited life-span.
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: hippy on March 14, 2017, 12:52:15 pm
Surgery is not usually a recommend solution. But if it's surgery and riding versus no riding I know what I'd be doing.

I got some way with altering bike fit and a physio who knew some tricks to help hip compression.
Title: Re: How much do you want to win?
Post by: Mr Larrington on March 15, 2017, 10:24:33 am
To cut down my weight off comes my left leg
I pass the swimming costume test!