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General Category => Freewheeling => Racing => Topic started by: mattc on May 05, 2017, 09:25:52 am

Title: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: mattc on May 05, 2017, 09:25:52 am
http://www.questtv.co.uk/giro-ditalia-highlights/  :thumbsup:

Channel 37 on freeview. EDIT: 10pm every night, 1h highlights package by the look of it.

Shame it's not on ITV4 or C4, but it's something. I don't think I've ever watched a Giro stage!
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: trekker12 on May 05, 2017, 09:59:01 am
I prefer watching the Giro to the TDF (hethen). It tends to produce better racing and doesn't follow the formulaic routes of the TDF that seem to be repeated every other year (apart from the occasional foray into the UK).

You also get a greater chance of snow in the high mountains at this time of year which adds extra excitement.

Go Geraint!
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Pingu on May 05, 2017, 10:47:25 pm
http://www.questtv.co.uk/giro-ditalia-highlights/  :thumbsup:

Channel 37 on freeview.

Shame it's not on ITV4 or C4, but it's something. I don't think I've ever watched a Giro stage!

Thanks for the tip  :)
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: DaveReading on May 05, 2017, 11:23:51 pm
Channel 37 on freeview.

Shame it's not on ITV4 or C4, but it's something.

Nor on FreeSat, annoyingly.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: TigaSefi on May 06, 2017, 07:46:35 am
I looked at the guide and it only highlights from now on?
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: mattc on May 06, 2017, 08:00:19 am
Channel 37 on freeview.

Shame it's not on ITV4 or C4, but it's something.

Nor on FreeSat, annoyingly.
Isn't there some Bike Channel on FreeSat that isn't on Freeview? My Dad's been irritating me for months, asking me if I've seen such-and-such a programme on it  :facepalm:

 :)
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: DaveReading on May 06, 2017, 08:08:44 am
Isn't there some Bike Channel on FreeSat that isn't on Freeview? My Dad's been irritating me for months, asking me if I've seen such-and-such a programme on it  :facepalm:

http://bikechannel.co.uk/bike-freesat/
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: De Sisti on May 06, 2017, 08:47:39 am
Isn't there some Bike Channel on FreeSat that isn't on Freeview? My Dad's been irritating me for months, asking me if I've seen such-and-such a programme on it  :facepalm:

http://bikechannel.co.uk/bike-freesat/ (http://bikechannel.co.uk/bike-freesat/)
Some of the programmes on the bike channel seem to have a loud backing track music dialogue in the
background, which makes the voice commentary almost inaudible; which is very irritating.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: mattc on May 06, 2017, 11:54:10 am
Some of the programmes on the bike channel seem to have a loud backing track music dialogue in the
background, which makes the voice commentary almost inaudible; which is very irritating.

Good!


 ;)
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Mr Larrington on May 06, 2017, 12:09:19 pm
Some of the programmes on the bike channel seem to have a loud backing track music dialogue in the
background, which makes the voice commentary almost inaudible; which is very irritating.

Depends on whether they're commentators or colemantators.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: matthew on May 15, 2017, 09:53:46 am
And there goes the British challenge, taken out when a rider collided with a stationary police escort motorcycle. Both Thomas and Yates lost 5 minutes to Quintana.

I'm not saying they would have stated with Quintana up the climb but that we will now never know.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: trekker12 on May 15, 2017, 09:56:09 am
Utter disaster for them all, and several others with GC ambitions.

No-one would have stuck with Quintana up there but it's a longish time trial on Tuesday so any losses could well have been recovered but not five minutes.

I'm cheering for Domoulin from here on.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Pingu on May 16, 2017, 12:53:33 pm
The Colemantators were quick to blame the motorcyclist, but he didn't seem to have stopped suddenly in front of the peloton from what I could see and he was right at the edge of the road where spectators could easily have been.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: DuncanM on May 16, 2017, 01:11:28 pm
The Colemantators were quick to blame the motorcyclist, but he didn't seem to have stopped suddenly in front of the peloton from what I could see and he was right at the edge of the road where spectators could easily have been.
He was on the edge of the tarmac, but just after a bend (and on the outside where the flow would take the riders), when the race for position at the bottom of the major climb was in full flow. Wrong place at the wrong time.  :(
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Veloman on May 16, 2017, 01:20:21 pm
Race Director accepts it was an error of judgement by police motorcyclist.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: David Martin on May 16, 2017, 01:48:56 pm
Protocol is that motorbikes, cars etc shoudl stop at the right hand side of the road, so he was in the wrong.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Pingu on May 16, 2017, 03:18:09 pm
Ah - OK.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Veloman on May 16, 2017, 06:49:52 pm
Considering what happened on Sunday, that was brilliant riding today by G and there is no way I could be that sanguine after what happened.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Samuel D on May 16, 2017, 07:25:48 pm
I think he thought he could bag the stage and salvage his Giro immediately. He was right to think so, though Dumoulin beat him convincingly in the end. Strong ride in a very hard time trial. I read there was a direct headwind for several kilometres near the end. Ouch.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: trekker12 on May 17, 2017, 12:51:45 pm
There's no reason, as long as he's as fit as he says he is he couldn't go for it in the hills, see what the last day TT brings and target a top five in GC which would be quite a result.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: αdαmsκι on May 19, 2017, 09:17:27 am
Another Giro. Another flop for Sky

https://www.teamsky.com/article/geraint-thomas
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DALIoksUIAAb-7J.jpg)
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: trekker12 on May 19, 2017, 12:42:08 pm
Shame but saw it coming with his lack of pace on Wednesday.

Why bother with the tour? It'll all be based around Froome. He should take a break, create a new training block in July and prepare for the Vuelta where he could be team leader rather than a domestique for Froome.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Veloman on May 19, 2017, 03:46:43 pm
Another Giro. Another flop for Sky

Flop?

Perhaps a bit harsh considering the incident involving Thomas why not of Sky's making.  When your team leader is taken down by stupidity on behalf of those supposedly caring for the riders, I don't think this can be called a flop.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: αdαmsκι on May 19, 2017, 06:59:57 pm
I agree it wasn't Thomas' fault, but the aim was to win GC. One of their leaders has now quit and the second leader is way down the general classification. IMO that's a flop.

Still, at least Sky haven't had any riders disqualified, unlike a few years ago.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: mcshroom on May 19, 2017, 07:17:39 pm
I agree it wasn't Thomas' fault, but the aim was to win GC. One of their leaders has now quit and the second leader is way down the general classification. IMO that's a flop.

Still, at least Sky haven't had any riders disqualified, unlike a few years ago.

Both of whom hit the deck when the Sunweb rider crashed into a motorbike that shouldn't have been there. Disappointing but hard to call it a 'flop'. Also remember Yates was taken out of the running in the same crash which was disappointing.

When people deserve criticism then I can see the point, but I'm not sure what you think is worth criticism this year. If it had been another big team would you be saying the same?
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Samuel D on May 19, 2017, 07:28:25 pm
I could see Sky winning a stage yet, maybe with Landa who seems to be recovering better than Thomas after initially appearing the worse off.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: trekker12 on May 24, 2017, 10:59:17 am
I know there is no honour in the peloton any more but to attack Dumoulin whilst he had his trousers down yesterday seemed a bit harsh. Did well not to incur any more losses than he did.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Little Jim on May 24, 2017, 11:45:04 am
Yes, never been a fan of Nibali and he has form for this as well - 2015 TdF, stage 19, as well as the infamous "motor pacing" incident in that year's Vuelta.  Quintana strikes me as someone who is more of a follower rather than a leader but he really should have had the moral courage to do something especially after his crash the other day.  You can argue that in modern racing that is commercially driven then mechanicals, accidents, whatever, should just be accepted and taken on the chin and that probably seems like a good idea until you are the one standing at the side of the road with a flat tyre.

Hopefully the karma police will be along in a day or so.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: TigaSefi on May 24, 2017, 11:56:30 am
Quintana is a knob jockey. Really hope his plans to do two tours to fall apart!
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: rafletcher on May 24, 2017, 06:28:53 pm
OTOH older members will recall Lemond riding into Paris with diarrhoea running down his legs.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: LEE on May 24, 2017, 08:37:13 pm
I went for a dump in the Friar Tuck Cafe in Amesbury (on a Denmead Audax) and all my mates were waiting for me afterwards*


*To be precise they were still eating their Full English Breakfasts..but it was the right thing to do.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Karla on May 24, 2017, 10:56:31 pm
OTOH older members will recall Lemond riding into Paris with diarrhoea running down his legs.

Didn't both team cars look about as bad as Lemond, after Hinault's team manager tried to get up to him to tell him to attack but Lemond's team car was in the way?
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: rob on May 25, 2017, 07:23:51 am
OTOH older members will recall Lemond riding into Paris with diarrhoea running down his legs.

Didn't both team cars look about as bad as Lemond, after Hinault's team manager tried to get up to him to tell him to attack but Lemond's team car was in the way?

I believe they were both riding for La Vie Clare at the time 1986 tour.   The whole incident is recounted in the foreword to Slaying the Badger.   It was earlier in the tour than the Champs Elysses.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: trekker12 on May 25, 2017, 10:44:28 am
In Put me Back on my Bike, the mechanic recalls cleaning similar substances from Tommy Simpsons bike the day before the fatal ride up Ventoux - although there were other reasons for that.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Karla on May 25, 2017, 11:01:50 am
OTOH older members will recall Lemond riding into Paris with diarrhoea running down his legs.

Didn't both team cars look about as bad as Lemond, after Hinault's team manager tried to get up to him to tell him to attack but Lemond's team car was in the way?

I believe they were both riding for La Vie Clare at the time 1986 tour.   The whole incident is recounted in the foreword to Slaying the Badger.   It was earlier in the tour than the Champs Elysses.

Aah just a sec, I was thinking of Lemond vs Fignon on Alpe d'Huez in 1989.  Let's call it similarly 'sporting' behaviour.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Ruthie on May 25, 2017, 09:04:21 pm
The Dolomites are a spectacular backdrop aren't they? Loving the Giro this year, full of drama of the best kind  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Veloman on May 26, 2017, 05:48:24 pm
Great win by Landa today and if he manages to stay upright for the rest of the race then he will have won the Blue jersey which is excellent news considering the spill earlier in the race.  May not be GC, but Sky will come away with more than some other teams have done who were not involved in the nonsense with the motorbike.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: αdαmsκι on May 26, 2017, 11:04:52 pm
https://twitter.com/Eurosport_UK/status/868117228566093824
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: TigaSefi on May 27, 2017, 04:22:41 pm
That was exciting!! Top 6 riders racing up a mountain!! Dumoulin did well to get back to 7 secs but ran out of energy to do any more!
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Veloman on May 27, 2017, 04:51:17 pm
Super finish to race on Sunday when it is so open when small matters like a puncture can have a decisive input.

Good to see Landa had a relatively easy day after securing the climbers jersey. Must be seen as a good Giro for Sky considering their ill-fortune.

Hilarious to see after the stage yesterday that Movistar and Bahrain teams were in bottom two places for Fair Play classification:

http://www.giroditalia.it/eng/rankings/?tpp=21001 (http://www.giroditalia.it/eng/rankings/?tpp=21001)

No idea how it is calculated and seems to be inverse of general classification. Seems some teams are getting grief for riding too fast!
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Hot Flatus on May 27, 2017, 06:58:37 pm
No, they are getting grief for ignoring usual race etiquette.

Barring incident, Dumoulin will probably win.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: andyoxon on May 28, 2017, 11:19:30 am
So 54seconds to make up... C'mon Tom.

Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Veloman on May 28, 2017, 05:02:14 pm
(click to show/hide)

And Landa stays upright to ensure Sky salvage something of note from the Giro.  Superb performance from Landa all other matters considered.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Pingu on May 28, 2017, 11:01:05 pm
WTF language does Sean Kelly speak  ???
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Ivo on May 29, 2017, 09:23:24 am
The anthem was not entirely the correct one ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHVDToj2Y9A

(modified to English subtitles)

Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Ivo on June 01, 2017, 11:09:13 am
Celebrations in Maastricht yesterday:

Full version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_igbtQeOWA

short version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYiC90Y_fOc
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: mattc on June 01, 2017, 11:35:37 am
WTF language does Sean Kelly speak  ???

He speaks the language of Green Jerseys :P




Very pleased for Tom. I've nothing *against* Quintana, but cannot really like the guy either. Tom's smile as he watched the race clock tick-over into "win" was just lovely :)

I missed most of the stages (I was riding thru Swiss/Italian alps  :smug: ); in the last highlights programme, was Dumoulin bunny-hopping a kerb in an ITT???
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Little Jim on June 01, 2017, 11:40:38 am
WTF language does Sean Kelly speak  ???

He speaks the language of Green Jerseys :P




Very pleased for Tom. I've nothing *against* Quintana, but cannot really like the guy either. Tom's smile as he watched the race clock tick-over into "win" was just lovely :)

I missed most of the stages (I was riding thru Swiss/Italian alps  :smug: ); in the last highlights programme, was Dumoulin bunny-hopping a kerb in an ITT???

No, that was Quintana - he wore pink for both TTs and lost it to Tom D after each TT.

I've never warmed to Quintana, he seems to have less charisma than Froome, but I do think he showed a complete lack of any leadership skills after the infamous toilet stop and has gone down in my estimation.  Not that he'll be particularly bothered by my lack of support.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Pingu on June 01, 2017, 11:57:24 am
WTF language does Sean Kelly speak  ???

He speaks the language of Green Jerseys :P

He speaks like his mouth is stuffed with green jerseys.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Legs on June 01, 2017, 12:07:40 pm
I've never warmed to Quintana, he seems to have less charisma than Froome, but I do think he showed a complete lack of any leadership skills after the infamous toilet stop and has gone down in my estimation.  Not that he'll be particularly bothered by my lack of support.
I spent the weekend with my sister-in-law's family and friends - her best friend's common-law husband is Colombian and says that Quintana has the personality of a brick.
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: David Martin on June 01, 2017, 01:19:18 pm
Celebrations in Maastricht yesterday:

Full version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_igbtQeOWA

short version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYiC90Y_fOc

they do seem to be quite enjoying themselves there..
Title: Re: Giro starts today - and it's on "normal" TV
Post by: Ivo on June 01, 2017, 03:11:40 pm
Celebrations in Maastricht yesterday:

Full version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_igbtQeOWA

short version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYiC90Y_fOc

they do seem to be quite enjoying themselves there..

The city has a certain reputation for enjoying themselves.

I would have loved to be there myself but I had a late shift yesterday.