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Title: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 03, 2008, 10:58:07 am
POST YOUR CAMERA PHONE PHOTOS HERE


Thought I'd start a thread to try and demonstrate how good or how bad Camera Phones can be.  I think they have now reached the point where perfectly acceptable 6x4 prints and 640x480 'Web Blog' photos can be produced.

Maybe it could help someone select a phone should they be looking for a decent camera function.  After all, a camera phone can take a better photo of a situation than a DSLR you have left at home.

Sony Ericsson K800i (3Mpixel).  Nice bright day
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Audax/WestBayBike.jpg?t=1225708117)

It also has a Xenon Flash, rather than an LED, meaning it really does have a Flash, albeit with a limited range (LED 'Flashes'just don't work imo).

Any more examples of Camera-Phone photos?

Any advice ("great camera", "Crap camera") ?

I'll publish some more later today.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: PaulF on November 03, 2008, 11:12:29 am
This (which I've posted before)

(http://lh6.ggpht.com/paul.fulford/SO0_baZr5XI/AAAAAAAAAB8/RK0oBY3c4Zg/s640/IMG00037.jpg)

was taken with my Blackberry.

I find that phones seem to work well in good light, less so when it's gloomy
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Basil on November 03, 2008, 11:14:54 am
I have exactly the same phone. (As Lee)
I was quite suprised that I could get a reasonable image looking directly into the sun.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Bloke_on_a_bike/Needssorting004.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on November 03, 2008, 11:17:03 am
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3293/2934643608_77e9ae190a_b.jpg)

SE k770i

I don't think I could have stuck my DSLR that far into the thorn bush to get the pic..

..d
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andyoxon on November 03, 2008, 11:18:05 am
Sony Ericson W200i  VGA  ;D   I'll stick to my camera. (taken by mini ao)

(http://inlinethumb09.webshots.com/42568/2876522590101458909S600x600Q85.jpg)

Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Chris S on November 03, 2008, 11:29:12 am
(http://www.ivytodd.com/images/packbridge.jpg)

Nokia 6300i (2Mpix).
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Jaded on November 03, 2008, 11:33:52 am
iPhone

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3233/2998417659_c4839dd9fd.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andyoxon on November 03, 2008, 12:04:36 pm
...After all, a camera phone can take a better photo of a situation than a DSLR you have left at home.

I think this is the most important aspect of a phone that can take half decent pics.  And remember to blow all that dust and gunk of the lens first...  :)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Basil on November 03, 2008, 12:15:23 pm

I think this is the most important aspect of a phone that can take half decent pics.  And remember to blow all that dust and gunk of the lens first...  :)

I you're refering to my picture ;), the marks are not on my lens, they're on the train window.  :(
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 03, 2008, 12:24:16 pm
Sony Ericsson K800i

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/bikeportsdown2.jpg?t=1225714608)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Audax/6004.jpg?t=1225714769)

I'm now tempted to try and get some really nice photos just using the K800i now, as a technical challenge, to see exactly what sort of results can be achieved.

Watch this space and keep posting, I may award a "Best Camera-Phone Photo" award (no sneaky DSLR photos)


Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andyoxon on November 03, 2008, 02:34:02 pm

I think this is the most important aspect of a phone that can take half decent pics.  And remember to blow all that dust and gunk of the lens first...  :)

I you're refering to my picture ;), the marks are not on my lens, they're on the train window.  :(

What kind of excuse is that..?   ;D    No I wasn't thinking of yours actually BwB.  The lens element on my phone, which must be all of 2-3mm in diameter, sits at the base of a little 'well' which is perfect for collecting dust etc... 
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Woofage on November 03, 2008, 03:57:49 pm
Ericsson K750i. (I'll leave the caption for others).

(http://woofage.co.uk/cycling/balloon_baps.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 04, 2008, 02:36:03 pm
I went out for a lunchtime spin with the intention of getting some photos on my Ericsson.

'Discovered' a church, down a muddy lane, that I must have cycled past 100 times and never seen.

I took a bit of care taking the photos (took light reading off the grass using spot-metering, held the phone as steady as I could and so on) and I'm pleased with some of the results.  My regular Canon would have done a better job with colour balance (and resolution) and had a higher success rate (much better metering system) but overall, not too bad, the main limiting factor is the fixed, wide angle lens that tends to give barrel-distortion at the extreme edges.

I learned that it's best to sacrifice the edges of the frame and crop the distortion out.
(Like any camera though, you need to learn how to use it for best results.  Since digital 'film' is free, there's no excuse for not blasting through lots of shots to find out how the camera (phone) works best.)

Fyfield Church, near Andover.  Very grey day, hard to find any contrast in anything.

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Various/DSC00235aweb.jpg?t=1225807363)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Various/DSC00232aweb.jpg?t=1225809249)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andyoxon on November 04, 2008, 03:05:18 pm
Good detail.  I can read "Jane Olivia Vernon" on the grave stone.  Can't quite make out the dates - 1734(?)- though.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 04, 2008, 03:16:24 pm
Good detail.  I can read "Jane Olivia Vernon" on the grave stone.  Can't quite make out the dates - 1734(?)- though.

200 years out

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Various/DSC0023crop.jpg?t=1225811747)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 05, 2008, 05:22:47 pm
Another K800i shot from my lunchtime ride today. 

K800i has a useful spot-metering option allowing camera to ignore the expanse of sky that would otherwise cause under-exposure of the fishing hut.  This has 'washed-out' the sky but there really isn't much missing, it was a very grey day and I tweaked the contrast lightly in order to get some punch into the image.

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Various/DSC00242a.jpg?t=1225905433)

It's actually quite nice to have the challenge of such a limiting device with which to try and produce half-decent photos. 

Zooming is done using my feet.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Zoidburg on November 05, 2008, 05:25:56 pm
Image heavy I am afraid


(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c234/Zoiders/Photo-0008.jpg)

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c234/Zoiders/Photo-0035.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Zoidburg on November 05, 2008, 05:26:51 pm
This is odd, my photobucket images always show directly elsewhere but not here

Is something amiss?
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Zoidburg on November 05, 2008, 05:33:50 pm
So do I but it always gets disabled somehow

Never happens anywhere but here
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: mecwales on November 05, 2008, 06:09:13 pm
Taken with a truly ancient Nokia 6820 (I like its flippy QWERTY keyboard though, so it's staying for the moment :thumbsup:):

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3250/3005210091_0350210558.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 05, 2008, 07:47:06 pm
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c234/Zoiders/Photo-0008.jpg)

My initial reaction was that this was somewhere in Mid-West USA (until I recgnised some signage)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on November 05, 2008, 08:45:15 pm
OK. bit of a 'push the phone to it's limits' time. Fireworks.

There was a particualr shot I had in mind. The local kids congregate on a climbing frame during the annual firework display so it was a question of line up, rest on the fence to keep it still, and shoot a few to get the shot I wanted. I would have been much better off with the dSLR had I been bothered to carry it around.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3229/3006383864_fd0d4a7cfb.jpg?v=1225917528)(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3203/3006385202_a6edc47d20.jpg?v=1225917561)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3023/3005552941_b1c5f19f9a.jpg?v=0)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3190/3006390930_67e9d34948.jpg?v=1225917780)(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3228/3005556621_dbd53bc71e.jpg?v=1225917816)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3286/3005557739_7543e03484.jpg?v=1225917845)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: rogerzilla on November 05, 2008, 09:10:18 pm
(http://www.peeble.com/dunrun12.jpg)

Sony Ericsson K810i, Dunwich Beach.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 05, 2008, 09:52:19 pm
Quote
I would have been much better off with the dSLR had I been bothered to carry it around.

And one of the main points of the thread, a decent camera phone (or even a crappy one) is better than no camera.

I think the firework photos show just what can be done with a modern phone
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on November 05, 2008, 10:46:17 pm
Quote
I would have been much better off with the dSLR had I been bothered to carry it around.

And one of the main points of the thread, a decent camera phone (or even a crappy one) is better than no camera.

I think the firework photos show just what can be done with a modern phone

Or, more realistically, where the limits lie. I wasn't expecting to get pictures that good. I only took a dozen then wandered over to join the family and friends for the rest of the display.

Then tonight I took my dSLR and the standard lens (17-70 Sigma 2.8-4.5 with macro) and took some pictures of my daughters aquasaurs. Off camera TTL flash.In total about 1k worth of kit. I wouldn't have got close with the camera for fast moving wrigglies (though the macro is good).
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Jaded on November 05, 2008, 11:37:48 pm
This

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3203/3006385202_a6edc47d20.jpg?v=1225917561)

and this

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3190/3006390930_67e9d34948.jpg?v=1225917780)

are spectacular.

Who cares about circles of confusion. Care about the image, not the technology!
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Jaded on November 05, 2008, 11:38:57 pm
(http://www.peeble.com/dunrun12.jpg)

I never realised that Dunwich was  so, well, GREY!
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: kyuss on November 06, 2008, 12:37:02 am
Those fireworks pics are nice (particularly the second one). :thumbsup:

I never really use the camera on my phone but this thread is making me think I should use it a bit more. Of course, I'll never get a decent sized print out of them.  :P  ;)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: citoyen on November 06, 2008, 01:09:32 am
I recently got an SE W902, which is the Walkman version of the C902. The C902 is supposed to be a very good camera and the W902 has most of the same hardware - the differences are mainly in the software (the C902 has a few more camera-specific functions while the W902 has more Walkman-specific functions). Handily, it comes with an 8GB memory card, so there's no excuse for not taking loads of pics.

It's a 5MP camera and offers various options and presets but I'm not much of a photographer and usually just use it on fully automatic settings. Here are some snaps I took in the Lake District last week (it was very grey overhead when I took them):

The view down the valley from Castlerigg stone circle, just outside Keswick:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/smutchin/castlerigg.jpg)

Nearing the top of "The Struggle", heading over Kirkstone Pass:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/smutchin/struggle-neartop-lookingup.jpg)

Taken from same spot as last pic but looking back down the hill:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/smutchin/struggle-neartop-lookingdow.jpg)

Random scenery in Thirlmere:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/smutchin/thirlmere.jpg)
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/smutchin/thirlmere1.jpg)

Halfway up Hartside Pass (strictly Pennines rather than Lake District):
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/smutchin/DSC00110.jpg)

Same view, but the light suddenly changed:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/smutchin/DSC00111.jpg)

d.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 06, 2008, 09:25:34 am
Wow, what a spectacular looking ride and nice photos of it too.

Interestingly your phone has 100x the storage of my first IBM PC (and I'm talking Hard Drives not memory here)


Keep them coming
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 06, 2008, 09:29:22 am
Those fireworks pics are nice (particularly the second one). :thumbsup:

I never really use the camera on my phone but this thread is making me think I should use it a bit more. Of course, I'll never get a decent sized print out of them.  :P  ;)

It's about knowing WHEN to use a camera phone.  I think this thread has helped me understand what situations are best suited to using it.

My next mission is to try and get some decent portraits (hmmm, portraits with a wide-angle lens, should be interesting)

Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: citoyen on November 06, 2008, 09:35:54 am
Interestingly your phone has 100x the storage of my first IBM PC (and I'm talking Hard Drives not memory here)

Yeah, my first computer was a C64 so I feel slightly bewildered by the capacity of phones these days. What's really incredible is the diminutive proportions of the memory card - it's an M2, which is barely fingernail sized.

d.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 06, 2008, 10:09:21 am
Here's one taken locally on the Newbury Downs.

Getting cloud detail AND accurate forground exposure involved a bit of 'processing'

SE K800i 3Mp
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Various/CombeViewK800i.jpg?t=1225964686)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andyoxon on November 06, 2008, 11:52:53 am
Quote
I would have been much better off with the dSLR had I been bothered to carry it around.

And one of the main points of the thread, a decent camera phone (or even a crappy one) is better than no camera.

I think the firework photos show just what can be done with a modern phone

A decent ‘cybershot’ type mobile phone is a camera, just a slimline one with communications functions.  It all depends on what your hassle/bulk:quality threshold is as to whether you use another style of camera, or not, when out and about.  While camera-mobile phones optically, may never reach the standards of good compacts which are similar in size; they are convenient.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 06, 2008, 02:38:27 pm
Mine is a phone first and camera second though.

In fact, by use, it's an MP3 player first, phone second and a camera third.

When I was looking for a new phone I made sure it had decent MP3 and Camera functions as well but primarily I was buying a phone.

I would never buy a camera this poor* just because it had communications functions.

*Although it produces decent images for a phone, it is still only the equivalent of a £30 camera (due mainly to a lack of zoom and comparitively poor lens)


Having said all that, I just realised that I have a nice phone with a good MP3 player and an acceptable camera, 2Gb of storage, MS Outlook Synch, Internet Acces and an FM Radio for £100.  A device that would have been science-fiction not so long ago.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andyoxon on November 06, 2008, 03:27:25 pm
Mine is a phone first and camera second though.

In fact, by use, it's an MP3 player first, phone second and a camera third.

When I was looking for a new phone I made sure it had decent MP3 and Camera functions as well but primarily I was buying a phone.

I would never buy a camera this poor* just because it had communications functions.

*Although it produces decent images for a phone, it is still only the equivalent of a £30 camera (due mainly to a lack of zoom and comparitively poor lens)


Having said all that, I just realised that I have a nice phone with a good MP3 player and an acceptable camera, 2Gb of storage, MS Outlook Synch, Internet Acces and an FM Radio for £100.  A device that would have been science-fiction not so long ago.

Fairynuff, I’d generally take a camera (compact - in first instance) and a phone, if I was going on a ‘ride’, as opposed to a commute – but then my phone’s camera facility is pretty hopeless anyway, so not much problem with this decision.  I have to say mobile phone cameras don’t inspire me much, but then I haven’t had the technological revelation yet... ;)  I’ll just have to take the chance that nothing vaguely interesting happens from the ‘aesthetic POV’ on my commute, or whenever else I decide not to take my camera – until I move up in the world of mobile phones... :) 
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Basil on November 06, 2008, 04:06:00 pm

Having said all that, I just realised that I have a nice phone with a good MP3 player and an acceptable camera, 2Gb of storage, MS Outlook Synch, Internet Acces and an FM Radio for £100.  A device that would have been science-fiction not so long ago.

I find the alarms, and calander event alarms very useful.
I've always thought that there are several other functions that could be added.

How about electric razor?  ;D

Might be difficult to hear if you're using the phone function at the same time.  ;)


£100?  :o  Mine was only £80.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: citoyen on November 06, 2008, 06:22:46 pm
While camera-mobile phones optically, may never reach the standards of good compacts which are similar in size; they are convenient.

This one looks pretty close to being a bona fide compact digital camera with added phone:
Sony Ericsson - Overview
               - C905
                   (http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/c905)

d.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 06, 2008, 06:47:09 pm
While camera-mobile phones optically, may never reach the standards of good compacts which are similar in size; they are convenient.

This one looks pretty close to being a bona fide compact digital camera with added phone:
Sony Ericsson - Overview
               - C905
                   (http://www.sonyericsson.com/cws/products/mobilephones/overview/c905)

d.


I imagine that the lens will be the limiting factor again although "Smart Contrast" may be useful if it works well.  I had to do some post-production on the image above because my K800i finds it difficult to reproduce a wide range of contrast well.

In fact I have to admit that the photo above is a composite of 2 almost identical images (1 exposure for foreground and 1 exposure for sky)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andyoxon on November 06, 2008, 07:23:04 pm
The C905 still probably wouldn't match up to the £56 Sony-Cyber-shot-S730
Sony Cyber-shot S730 Digital Camera - Silver 2.4" LCD: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-Cyber-shot-S730-Digital-Camera/dp/B0011U9U4K/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1225998405&sr=1-1 ) ;)

and if you can do with a small PAYG Sony Ericsson (or other).

Depends what you need I suppose... I don't use my phone much.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: robgul on November 06, 2008, 08:09:51 pm

Having said all that, I just realised that I have a nice phone with a good MP3 player and an acceptable camera, 2Gb of storage, MS Outlook Synch, Internet Acces and an FM Radio for £100.  A device that would have been science-fiction not so long ago.

I find the alarms, and calander event alarms very useful.
I've always thought that there are several other functions that could be added.

How about electric razor?  ;D

Might be difficult to hear if you're using the phone function at the same time.  ;)


£100?  :o  Mine was only £80.

You can get a sound effect for an electric razor for the Palm Smartphone ... sounds good, useless shave though

Rob
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 06, 2008, 08:33:55 pm
The C905 still probably wouldn't match up to the £56 Sony-Cyber-shot-S730

It wouldn't even come close technically but that's not the point.  It's about how far camera-phones have come rather than how far cameras have come.

The Sony-Cyber-shot-S730 isn't an MP3 player, Alarm Clock, Radio, Internet Browser, Calendar, Notepad, Telephone, SatNav or Electric-Razor simulator. 
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andyoxon on November 06, 2008, 09:43:25 pm
The C905 still probably wouldn't match up to the £56 Sony-Cyber-shot-S730

It wouldn't even come close technically but that's not the point.  It's about how far camera-phones have come rather than how far cameras have come.

The Sony-Cyber-shot-S730 isn't an MP3 player, Alarm Clock, Radio, Internet Browser, Calendar, Notepad, Telephone, SatNav or Electric-Razor simulator. 

Yes, I'm playing devils advocate really. :demon:  But phones do eat camera dust...  If one feels as though one may not want to miss out on a good image opportunity - take the mobile (with biking essentials such as MP3 player, alarm clock etc  ;) )  & also a decent slim compact digicam.  You won't notice the extra weight, but you will the extra IQ.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: GruB on November 06, 2008, 10:30:25 pm
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e81/GruuB/06-11-08_1856.jpg)

Taken tonight on arriving home.  The lighting is courtesy of my head lamp - Joystick Maxx2.
Motorolo K1
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Basil on November 06, 2008, 11:00:31 pm
Sony Ericson K800i
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Bloke_on_a_bike/Needssorting001.jpg)
I like this picture.

Victoria Square. Spring 2008
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Oscar's dad on November 07, 2008, 08:16:49 am
I love this thread.  I have been a most enthusiastic camera-phone user for the last 4 years and until I got a DSLR two weeks ago have never used anything else. 

I am a happy snapper so have been more interested in the image rather than the technical aspects.  Even so, the picture quality has just got better as time has advanced.  Currently I have a Sony Ericsson K810i which is fab. 

All the pictures I have posted on YACF have been taken with it.  But, when I get a minute I will post a selection of the best on this thread.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andyoxon on November 07, 2008, 08:39:55 am
Can we see some 100% crop examples too?   ;)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 07, 2008, 10:08:40 am
Can we see some 100% crop examples too?   ;)

Will create some 640x480 pixel crops and post them tonight.

K800i resolution is 2048 x 1536 and my screen is 1280 x 1024 so a 100% image on my puny 15" screen would be 22" x 17" (if you see what I mean, i.e.the full image is 1.5x my screen dimensions approx) That's a good fit for an A2 print (16.5 × 23.4) but that's definitely pushing it unless the subject matter is very important to you. 

A4 or 10x8 prints would be perfectly fine for most people though.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: FyPuNK on November 07, 2008, 10:34:14 am
Dont normally use the phone, this is a couple from this years punk festival in Blackpool, the first is a certain Mr Lloyd Grosman (playing guitar on the right)..
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/Aidypunk/PIC00005-1.jpg)

And The Vibrators......
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/Aidypunk/PIC00070.jpg)

Mine is a clapped out Nokia 6600 but its bomb proof and it needs to be with me.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: spindrift on November 07, 2008, 10:46:43 am
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3189/2927504848_c0eafa3be1.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: spindrift on November 07, 2008, 10:50:47 am
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3254/2927536612_7231c8c9ef_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: spindrift on November 07, 2008, 10:58:37 am
Taken with a Sony k850i. I tried to track the cyclist so the background was blurry- it took a few goes to get right and it's a ciomplete coincidence the best shot was a babelicious Dutch girl.

I like the second cos of the shapes the ducks make in the water. I had to be careful not to catch the working girls in the windows, they'd have snatched my camera and chucked it in the canal.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Oscar's dad on November 07, 2008, 11:22:05 am
Dont normally use the phone, this is a couple from this years punk festival in Blackpool, the first is a certain Mr Lloyd Grosman (playing guitar on the right)..
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/Aidypunk/PIC00005-1.jpg)

And The Vibrators......
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/Aidypunk/PIC00070.jpg)

Mine is a clapped out Nokia 6600 but its bomb proof and it needs to be with me.

Great photos!

Please forgive my next comments.  I know very little about music and less about the punk scene.  What I am about to type isn't meant to mock, merely express my surprise - perhaps my ignorance!

Lloyd Grosman is a punk rocker???  Has he always been into punk?  If so then he has gone up in my estimation.  Just goes to show you shouldn't judge people by their public persona.

And, there don't appear to be many people in the audience that look like punk rockers (though I know you do  :thumbsup: )  How come?
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 07, 2008, 12:13:58 pm
Quote
Lloyd Grosman is a punk rocker???  Has he always been into punk?  If so then he has gone up in my estimation.

Punk Rock just went down in my estimation
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: citoyen on November 07, 2008, 01:21:15 pm
Interesting and timely article in yesterday's Guardian:
         Snap! Cameraphones keep getting better |
            Technology |
            The Guardian
    (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/nov/06/cameraphones-mobile-phones-photography)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andyoxon on November 07, 2008, 02:06:28 pm
Interesting and timely article in yesterday's Guardian:
         Snap! Cameraphones keep getting better |
            Technology |
            The Guardian
    (http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/nov/06/cameraphones-mobile-phones-photography)

Those sample images he posts on flickr do look pretty decent.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 07, 2008, 02:16:57 pm
Here's a 3Mp image (downsized to 640x480) and a 640x480 pixel crop to give 100% output.

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Various/hut100selection.jpg?t=1226067350)

crop

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Various/hut100crop.jpg?t=1226067380)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Really Ancien on November 07, 2008, 02:46:08 pm
It's always worth looking for this turning as you decend towards Thirlmere from Dunmail Raise, the Western side of Thirlmere is a nice quiet road and the Boulder half way down is a great viewpoint.
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/smutchin/thirlmere.jpg)

Damon.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: alan on November 07, 2008, 03:53:15 pm


I never really use the camera on my phone but this thread is making me think I should use it a bit more. Of course, I'll never get a decent sized print out of them.  :P  ;)

Those are exactly my thoughts as I read thru' the thread.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: alan on November 07, 2008, 03:58:04 pm
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c234/Zoiders/Photo-0008.jpg)

My initial reaction was that this was somewhere in Mid-West USA (until I recgnised some signage)

I believe it to be Stafford rail station
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andyoxon on November 07, 2008, 04:02:29 pm
Here's a 3Mp image (downsized to 640x480) and a 640x480 pixel crop to give 100% output.

crop

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Various/hut100crop.jpg?t=1226067380)

Without wanting to get too bogged down in pixel peeping, I think that a scaled down image with an additional 100% crop allows for reasonable comparisons to be made, although there will be a fair bit of 'user variation'...  BTW do you know what level of EXIF data the phone camera records..?   

I suppose as you indicated earlier that for std print sizes or mild enlargements (perhaps not 'poster'), the better camera phones seem to be fine now (possibly with a tad more PP on occasions), and will probably only improve.  Though the improvements will probably mainly come from the sensor/electronic processing end - given the physical size constraints on having much larger/better light gathering lens elements (but you never know). 



Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 07, 2008, 04:16:03 pm
Can't see any EXIF data in Photoshop.

Re.  Lens limitations, I suppose you never know what they'll come up with in the future but I wish mine had a 'slide-over' 2x converter or similar.

I reckon the lens is equivalent to a 32mm (in 35mm terms).  It's not quite as wide as my 28mm but not far from it.

A 64mm 'telephoto' would be really handy for portraits.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: citoyen on November 07, 2008, 04:47:10 pm
It's always worth looking for this turning as you decend towards Thirlmere from Dunmail Raise, the Western side of Thirlmere is a nice quiet road and the Boulder half way down is a great viewpoint.

I nearly went down that road just to see where it went but changed my mind. I'll have to investigate it next time I'm up there, especially if it's quiet - the main road was very busy with half term traffic.

d.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: FyPuNK on November 08, 2008, 11:23:57 am
Dont normally use the phone, this is a couple from this years punk festival in Blackpool, the first is a certain Mr Lloyd Grosman (playing guitar on the right)..
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/Aidypunk/PIC00005-1.jpg)

And The Vibrators......
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/Aidypunk/PIC00070.jpg)

Mine is a clapped out Nokia 6600 but its bomb proof and it needs to be with me.


Great photos!

Please forgive my next comments.  I know very little about music and less about the punk scene.  What I am about to type isn't meant to mock, merely express my surprise - perhaps my ignorance!

Lloyd Grosman is a punk rocker???  Has he always been into punk?  If so then he has gone up in my estimation.  Just goes to show you shouldn't judge people by their public persona.

And, there don't appear to be many people in the audience that look like punk rockers (though I know you do  :thumbsup: )  How come?
Errrmmmm yes, back in the seventies he had a one hit wonder, he claims that punk has always been close to his heart. To be fair and I didn't hang around for long he can play guitar pretty well although the show tunes they played were pretty naff IMHO but I had to go for the novelty value. Do remember that not everyone into punk nowadays look like me, but that is what punk was and is about, just being yourself, at the time they were on stage there was more hardcore bands on the other stages. Here is some more generic punks ...
(http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q75/Aidypunk/PIC00005.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: numbnuts on November 10, 2008, 04:14:23 pm
(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y31/YakDiver/cameraphone.jpg)

camera-phone photo ;D
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: citoyen on November 10, 2008, 04:41:53 pm
Who do you think you are - Salvador bleeding Dali?

d.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 10, 2008, 05:27:06 pm
Who do you think you are - Salvador bleeding Dali?

d.


Yes

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Various/daliphone.jpg?t=1226337969)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: citoyen on November 13, 2008, 07:34:49 pm
Another Lake District pic - we visited Blackwell (http://www.blackwell.org.uk/), and I caught my son in the garden admiring the view over Windermere:

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/smutchin/DSC00032.jpg)

And here's a pic taken of the current installation in the Tate Modern turbine hall. I took a few in there but they didn't turn out very well due to the poor lighting - this was the best of a bad bunch:

(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/smutchin/DSC00143.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 14, 2008, 08:54:48 am
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/smutchin/DSC00143.jpg)

I'm afraid you can't post something like that without telling me more about what the artist had in mind.

Call me a philistine but it looks like IKEA's warehouse.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: citoyen on November 14, 2008, 10:00:57 am
Call me a philistine but it looks like IKEA's warehouse.

Ha! Yes, that's about right. It's certainly the weakest of the turbine hall installations I've seen so far. There are several rows of these bright blue and yellow steel bed frames, many with books laid on them, all with an apocalyptic theme. There are also several large animal sculptures (including the Louise Bourgeois giant spider, and the red thing is supposed to be part of a giant flamingo) and a screen on the end wall showing bits of film, again with an apocalyptic theme. more (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7667051.stm)

Frankly, it's a bit heavy handed and unsubtle and not especially well executed. I found it quite dull.

Some of my colleagues went down on the day it opened and left copies of Nuts on some of the beds, which at least livened it up a bit. Unfortunately, they didn't last very long before security stepped in.

d.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on November 15, 2008, 11:12:06 pm
I should point out that at least one of the .citycycling cover photos has been taken on a cameraphone.

..d
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andygates on November 15, 2008, 11:15:19 pm
They're complete game-changers, I was totally wrong years ago when I was ranting about "who needs a camera on a phone?"  Citizen journalism, instantly, globally: snap and send.  Glorious.

Twitpic rocks. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Jaded on November 15, 2008, 11:44:22 pm
They're complete game-changers, I was totally wrong years ago when I was ranting about "who needs a camera on a phone?"  Citizen journalism, instantly, globally: snap and send.  Glorious.

Twitpic rocks. :thumbsup:

Me too Andy.

It's nice to be wrong occasionally!
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andrew_s on November 16, 2008, 11:44:47 pm
Without wanting to get too bogged down in pixel peeping, I think that a scaled down image with an additional 100% crop allows for reasonable comparisons to be made, although there will be a fair bit of 'user variation'...  BTW do you know what level of EXIF data the phone camera records..?
The 100% crop is showing the following in FxIF:
Camera Make:     Sony Ericsson
Camera Model:    K800i
Image Date:        2008:11:05 12:34:29
Flash Used:         No
Exposure Time:   0.017 s (1/60)
Aperture:            f/2.8
ISO equiv:          80
White Balance:   Auto
Metering Mode:  Spot

The K750i is the same
The W902 shows Focal Length (5.2mm) as well
FyPuNK's Nokia 6600 shows date/time only
GruB's Motorola shows "Rotate 90" only

Most others have have the EXIF data stripped out (probably by "save for web"), except for Chris S' Nokia 6300i bridge shot, which interestingly shows up as a Canon Powershot A530
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: geraldc on November 18, 2008, 10:34:31 pm
Just discovered that if I host my iPhone photos on pbase, it strips the GPS info from them, and plots them on a map. How cool is that!

PBase Maps (http://maps.pbase.com/gchong2426/image/106085775)


This is going to come in very handy for audax snaps  ;D
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Jaded on November 19, 2008, 12:01:02 am
Also for blogging an E2E  ;D
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: hellymedic on November 19, 2008, 12:28:56 am
It's only a matter of time before Mr Clooless Criminal posts his pics there and lets Plod know exactly where he has been...
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 23, 2008, 04:56:34 pm
2 examples (from AUK AGM dinner) to show the effect of flash on and off (Sony K800i)
The K800i has a 'proper' xenon flash rather than an LED light.  Up to about 6 feet it's pretty usable.  However, it seems to do a decent job with indoor ambient light (although it was very bright indoor lighting)

Flash on
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Audax/AGM3.jpg?t=1227457336)

Flash Off
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Audax/AGM4.jpg?t=1227457472)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Séamas M. on November 29, 2008, 02:48:55 am
The K800i is a pretty good phone, a reasonable media player and quite a good camera.  I wasn't sure whether to post this here or on the panorama thread....

Driving to work this Friday morning I went up through the clouds past Spelga Dam, and when I popped out on the Kilkeel side of the Mournes I just had to stop and take a couple of pictures.


(http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/807/dsc01085gv1.th.jpg) (http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01085gv1.jpg)

(http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/3307/dsc01082yf4.th.jpg) (http://img385.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc01082yf4.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on November 29, 2008, 08:29:03 am
Fantastic Séamas!  :)

I used to ride in the Mournes quite a bit.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Dinamo on January 02, 2009, 03:53:28 pm
Taken this afternoon on my commute home from work

(http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee253/ianrsparrow/DSC00344.jpg)

Using a Sony Ericsson W850i  with 2 Mega pixel Camera
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Mrs Pingu on January 03, 2009, 04:51:25 pm
Inspired by this thread I finally got around to dumping some of the pics off my phone. (another K800i).
I was quite pleased with this one given that I just fired it off on the way to work.
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f330/Pinniped/Dsc00060sml-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LE on January 21, 2009, 12:39:11 pm
Inspired by this thread I finally got around to dumping some of the pics off my phone. (another K800i).
I was quite pleased with this one given that I just fired it off on the way to work.
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f330/Pinniped/Dsc00060sml-1.jpg)


That is lovely  :D
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on January 21, 2009, 03:19:36 pm
Inspired by this thread I finally got around to dumping some of the pics off my phone. (another K800i).
I was quite pleased with this one given that I just fired it off on the way to work.
(http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f330/Pinniped/Dsc00060sml-1.jpg)


That really is excellent.  It's done a surprisingly good job of the exposure and colour balance.

Did you have to do any colour-balancing or 'post-processing'?

Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on January 21, 2009, 03:22:19 pm
Anybody got one of the latest 8Mp phones?

Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andyoxon on January 21, 2009, 03:35:11 pm
Inspired by this thread I finally got around to dumping some of the pics off my phone. (another K800i).
I was quite pleased with this one given that I just fired it off on the way to work.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f330/Pinniped/Dsc00060sml-1.jpg


Nice one Mrs P.  The little patch of sun-on-snow railing highlight on the right gives a good bit of foreground interest/balance, IMO.   :)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: gonzo on January 21, 2009, 07:15:22 pm
Anybody got one of the latest 8Mp phones?

A shot I took today with a Samsung Pixon:
(http://photos-f.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v2061/208/68/204504692/n204504692_34419997_2522.jpg)

Cropped and zoomed image from above:
(http://photos-a.ll.facebook.com/photos-ll-snc1/v2061/208/68/204504692/n204504692_34419936_7483.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Ian H on February 03, 2009, 10:35:03 am
From the front window in W London, Sunday-

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3002/3250322314_30dabdfbd0.jpg?v=0)

From the front window in Devon, today-

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3033/3249499695_361f933a29.jpg?v=0)

Nokia Somethingorother* - 2mgp.

*I can't find the book that tells me what model it is and how to use it.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on February 03, 2009, 01:09:08 pm
Also for blogging an E2E  ;D

I'll be either using twitpic/twitter or flickr/davids big end to end ride blog for my E2E. Twitter/twitpic for short messages, the blog for longer ones.

Here is a test shot.. If I sent it as email rather than SMS then it would get the subject right.

You have received a new message on TwitPic (http://twitpic.com/1arlu)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on April 06, 2009, 10:43:06 am
This is a night shot. The mobile really doesn't like long exposures even though I boosted the exposure setting to +2.

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3537/3404900911_2bb8d31511_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on April 15, 2009, 05:24:20 pm
I think that's quite amazing from a phone camera.

Hope you don't mind but I had a play with some cropping and art filters

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Various/camphoto1.jpg?t=1239812574)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on April 15, 2009, 11:58:50 pm
I think that's quite amazing from a phone camera.

Hope you don't mind but I had a play with some cropping and art filters

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Various/camphoto1.jpg?t=1239812574)

Looks like it should be a wrap round CD cover or some such for a progressive Weegie art band.

..d
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on April 23, 2009, 09:53:43 pm
The things you see when you have a bike and a camera phone

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Various/rapeseed.jpg?t=1240519954)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Various/Bluebells.jpg?t=1240519991)

Sony Ericsson K800i
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: citoyen on June 05, 2009, 12:24:14 pm
Last bank holiday weekend, I was down in Poole visiting my sister. Went for a nice ride over the Purbecks early on Sunday morning and ended up down at Lulworth Cove, where I took a few pics with my phone (SonyEricsson W902). These are the best ones...

This one was facing east, straight into the early morning sun, but it still came out quite nicely:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/smutchin/DSC00156-1.jpg)

The other side of the bay:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/smutchin/DSC00154.jpg)

A family rowing out to their boat - I was rather envious of them, looked gorgeous out there:
(http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k170/smutchin/DSC00153.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andyoxon on June 05, 2009, 12:55:47 pm
Nice spot.  The phone cam coped pretty well into the sun, minimal flaring, touch of CA in the wave highlights - but this would prob occur in many cameras.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on June 17, 2009, 11:40:56 pm
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/ride%20photos/sunsetdarksky-1.jpg?t=1245275215)

Would have been missed if not for my phone having photographic abilities
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: citoyen on June 18, 2009, 01:40:11 pm
I love the colours in that. And the shadows really draw the eye in, giving the pic a strangely "dynamic" quality. Nice.

d.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Hummers on July 14, 2009, 09:48:25 pm
OK, I would like to make a submission or two.

Not brilliant quality but here goes -


(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/HummersOriginal/26062009001.jpg)

Tryfan: the cat that knew too much.


(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/HummersOriginal/16062009002.jpg)

Southsea sea front and Jervis the dog.


(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/HummersOriginal/20062009.jpg)

Teethgrinder's lunch at the Greyhound, Beaminster on the Porkers 400.


(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/HummersOriginal/24062009.jpg)

The Nostromo has landed and is somewhere near East Meon


H
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on September 08, 2009, 02:19:51 pm
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Audax/onoff6.jpg)

Lymington harbour looking towards Isle of Wight, around 8am on a very calm morning aboard the Ferry.

SE K800i
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Rhys W on September 10, 2009, 04:50:00 pm
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d96/HummersOriginal/26062009001.jpg)

Tryfan: the cat that knew too much.

Drank too much, more like. If you told me he'd opened the bottle himself, I'd believe you.
(Nice name btw)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Chris S on September 10, 2009, 05:10:57 pm
The view sitting in a chair in the reception of a hotel I was staying at this week. The whole place had more than a passing resemblance to Hogwarts (though the figures in the paintings only starting moving after I'd spent the evening in the bar).

(http://www.ivytodd.com/images/hotel.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on September 10, 2009, 05:30:29 pm
The view sitting in a chair in the reception of a hotel I was staying at this week. The whole place had more than a passing resemblance to Hogwarts (though the figures in the paintings only starting moving after I'd spent the evening in the bar).

(http://www.ivy-house.org.uk/images/hotel.jpg)

Or it could have been used for a Beatles album sleeve (if they had been a bit posher)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: border-rider on September 10, 2009, 06:02:24 pm
The camera in my phone is really crap, which gives a certain bizarre quality to the pics.  I just trawled through and selected a few from the last few years

(http://www.bosphorus.f2s.com/phonepics/spider.jpg)

(http://www.bosphorus.f2s.com/phonepics/sky.jpg)

(http://www.bosphorus.f2s.com/phonepics/dragon.jpg)

(http://www.bosphorus.f2s.com/phonepics/monet.jpg)

(http://www.bosphorus.f2s.com/phonepics/sign.jpg)

(http://www.bosphorus.f2s.com/phonepics/kitten.jpg)

(http://www.bosphorus.f2s.com/phonepics/sealionspier39.jpg)

(http://www.bosphorus.f2s.com/phonepics/horse.jpg)

(http://www.bosphorus.f2s.com/phonepics/dog.jpg)

Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on October 15, 2009, 09:08:28 am
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/ride%20photos/Sunset1.jpg?t=1255530763)

Sony Ericsson K800i.

Photo is cropped but otherwise untouched.  I had to take a few, using a different area for exposure, before I got something that wasn't washed out or too dark.  That's no different to most cameras in this situation though.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on October 15, 2009, 09:12:01 am
(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/ride%20photos/Sunset1.jpg?t=1255530763)

Sony Ericsson K800i.

Photo is cropped but otherwise untouched.  I had to take a few, using a different area for exposure, before I got something that wasn't washed out or too dark.  That's no different to most cameras in this situation though.

If it is a K800i then you can manually adjust the exposure with the arrow keys.

..d
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on October 15, 2009, 09:22:08 am
My problem was that I was holding phone at arms length over my head so I could shoot over the hedgerow.  I couldn't aim accurately enough to get a precise exposure so I just took a few until I got one I liked.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: PaulF on October 17, 2009, 12:22:48 am
Big wheel at Niagara Falls

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2522/4017373931_33cc20ab3e.jpg)

Taken with my Blackberry, realised that I probably didn't have time to go and find my proper camera before the sun set
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: velocitizen on October 18, 2009, 11:16:49 am
Lee
I really like the pictures you've taken with the K800i.
I am looking for a phone with camera, for taking snaps whilst I'm out.
K800i seems to fit the bill, but is no longer available.
Should I go for a second hand one? Or are the newer models significantly better? C902? any thoughts?
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Basil on October 18, 2009, 11:24:12 am

If it is a K800i then you can manually adjust the exposure with the arrow keys.

..d

Blimey.  I never knew that.
I've only had the thing 2 or 3 years, perhaps its nearly time to read the instruction booklet.

Thanks David.

*rushes off to have a play*
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: chris n on October 18, 2009, 01:21:21 pm
Lee
I really like the pictures you've taken with the K800i.
I am looking for a phone with camera, for taking snaps whilst I'm out.
K800i seems to fit the bill, but is no longer available.
Should I go for a second hand one? Or are the newer models significantly better? C902? any thoughts?

C902 is very good.  Been using one for about 8 months now and the camera is just fine.

edit: oops, mine's actually a C702.  Still good.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: velocitizen on October 18, 2009, 09:54:46 pm
Chris
Thanks for the above, C902 has a 5MP camera which I'd like, out of interest do you use the GPS on your C702 much? and how useful do you find it? Might have to add the 702 to my list!
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on October 18, 2009, 10:19:37 pm

If it is a K800i then you can manually adjust the exposure with the arrow keys.

..d

Blimey.  I never knew that.
I've only had the thing 2 or 3 years, perhaps its nearly time to read the instruction booklet.

Instruction book? I just press keys to see what they do...
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on October 18, 2009, 10:43:26 pm
Lee
I really like the pictures you've taken with the K800i.
I am looking for a phone with camera, for taking snaps whilst I'm out.
K800i seems to fit the bill, but is no longer available.
Should I go for a second hand one? Or are the newer models significantly better? C902? any thoughts?

I spent ages looking at output and reviews here (http://www.gsmarena.com/)

In general Sony-Ericsson seem to do pretty well with the camera functions of some of their phones and I expect newer ones are better.

Whatever camera phone you buy though, you need to spend some time experimenting.  They all have limitations (tiny lens, tiny sensor) and you need to ensure you understand them.

Because they nearly all have a fixed wide-angle lens it's useful to have lots of pixels so you can crop small areas.

Best Bits of SE800 that I'd like on my next phone:

1 - Xenon flash.  It's a proper flash, small but better than (useless) LED "Flashes"

2  Best Pic - It takes 9 pictures in a couple of seconds (including a couple from before you pressed the shutter button).  Great for taking photos of action, when you don't know exactly when the event will happen.

3 - Some manual control over exposure, flash, focus, scenes and so on.

I'm waiting for a similar 10-12 Mp version to be available for £100
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: tonycollinet on October 19, 2009, 12:15:27 am
The view sitting in a chair in the reception of a hotel I was staying at this week. The whole place had more than a passing resemblance to Hogwarts (though the figures in the paintings only starting moving after I'd spent the evening in the bar).

(http://www.ivy-house.org.uk/images/hotel.jpg)

That's not the four pillars tortworth is it?

Going there next weekend.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: chris n on October 19, 2009, 08:33:11 am
Chris
Thanks for the above, C902 has a 5MP camera which I'd like, out of interest do you use the GPS on your C702 much? and how useful do you find it? Might have to add the 702 to my list!

Not much at all - a couple of times to find my way in unfamiliar towns, but it's slow and expensive.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on March 06, 2012, 11:19:52 am
Maybe it's time to revisit this.

The Nokia 808 samples (http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_808_pureview_video_and_camera_samples-news-3905.php) seem to imply a quantum leap forward.

What is the quality like of current camera phones? 

This thread is of no use with out pictures and tech details.

I am still using my trusty SE K800 so no point posting mine but I may borrow my wife's HTC for some samples.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: loafer on March 13, 2012, 11:35:51 am
..sony ericsson w580i

some great shots  ;D will try and remember my phone has a camera for when i forget to take the lumix one i took the other week at seaham..  ;D (http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u333/lonecyclist/001.jpg)
this one at derwent
(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u333/lonecyclist/cannon%201/Untitled.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: PaulR on March 30, 2012, 09:44:29 pm
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7077/6884221054_a388bfbf62_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62297839@N05/6884221054/)
pisarro (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62297839@N05/6884221054/)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Chris S on April 14, 2012, 01:50:00 pm
(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5156/7076363111_e4fc6c8a7c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40735552@N05/7076363111/)
Heveningham Hall (http://www.flickr.com/photos/40735552@N05/7076363111/) by Pelotonhound (http://www.flickr.com/people/40735552@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: loafer on April 18, 2012, 09:13:32 pm
not my phone (col,s far  right) nokia 700 me in the middle the good looking one... ;D

club ride to GT Ayton called at the buck inn in sadberge  ;D one has to put the sweat back.. :thumbsup:
(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u333/lonecyclist/wellearnedpint.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: tokwitney on May 17, 2012, 10:19:40 pm
(http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h466/tokwitney/20120516_133346.jpg)

Taken with my Galaxy S2.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: urban_biker on May 24, 2012, 10:47:33 am
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7105/7260837214_1cba0d0abf.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70468997@N05/7260837214/)
DSC00039 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/70468997@N05/7260837214/) by urban_biker (http://www.flickr.com/people/70468997@N05/), on Flickr taken with my Sony Ericcson C903
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on May 25, 2012, 10:07:23 am
My desk today
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7228/7266617444_16f5af5f11_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/7266617444/)
mission control has been pied (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/7266617444/) by davidmamartin (http://www.flickr.com/people/davidmam/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: AndyK on May 25, 2012, 11:40:17 am
Taken on a ride a couple of days ago.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Minitar1/Phone%20Stuff/IMG_1526.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Minitar1/Phone%20Stuff/IMG_1531.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on June 16, 2012, 07:41:25 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/s480x480/317980_10151050552860039_1822630001_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: hellymedic on June 16, 2012, 08:01:30 pm
Flaming June!
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: fungus on June 16, 2012, 08:13:38 pm
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8020/7381224926_99d6d4295d.jpg)

Taken with a HTC Desire.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Peter on June 17, 2012, 09:49:41 am
Andy, those are very evocative.  Are they in the North-west, somewhere?  Or possibly N Yorkshire/Durham?
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: AndyK on June 17, 2012, 10:43:06 am
Thanks Peter. They were taken in Old Leigh (http://youtu.be/bWO-e6gwQdA) in Essex.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Peter on June 17, 2012, 10:46:31 am
Couldn't have been much further out!  It was the cobbles and narrow back-streets, I suppose.  Really good.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: AndyK on June 17, 2012, 12:34:32 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Minitar1/Phone%20Stuff/IMG_1276.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Minitar1/Phone%20Stuff/IMG_0871.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Minitar1/Phone%20Stuff/IMG_0849.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: clarion on July 05, 2012, 09:34:02 pm
A snap from Wimbledon today:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/ado15/IMAG0605.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: clarion on July 16, 2012, 05:21:07 pm
Snapped beside the South Circular in East Sheen:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/ado15/IMAG0629.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Ian H on July 16, 2012, 05:39:51 pm
Some very good photos here. To redress the balance:-

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8Xi_SRaWi6s/T9Nfnx84abI/AAAAAAAABF8/3-xhPK8i95U/s343/2012-06-09_15-36-18_843.jpg)
Wet weather off-road.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on July 17, 2012, 03:17:14 pm
Thanks Peter. They were taken in Old Leigh (http://youtu.be/bWO-e6gwQdA) in Essex.

Using what sort of Phone?

They are really nice.  Hard to imagine them being nicer using a dedicated camera really.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on July 17, 2012, 04:06:08 pm
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7270/7574421812_2aeb006f4b_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/7574421812/)
dessert (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/7574421812/) by davidmamartin (http://www.flickr.com/people/davidmam/), on Flickr
Hungry!
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on July 18, 2012, 05:22:50 pm
Always nice if you tell us what sort of phone you used.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: AndyK on July 18, 2012, 05:24:59 pm
I used the Hipstamatic app on an iPhone 4. David used an HTC Desire S. It's all in the exif data.  ;)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: clarion on July 18, 2012, 05:43:49 pm
I use an HTC Desire S, too, but I don't suppose anyone was interested in that ;D
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: AndyK on July 18, 2012, 05:47:18 pm
I use an HTC Desire S, too, but I don't suppose anyone was interested in that ;D

I can tell you you took the photo at GPS Latitude: 51.414 deg N / 0.2212 deg W.   ;)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: clarion on July 18, 2012, 05:49:58 pm
I can tell you that you now know more than I do ;D
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: AndyK on July 19, 2012, 08:10:26 am
It's easy when you know how (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Minitar1/Random/exifgrab.jpg).  ;)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Jacomus on July 19, 2012, 09:01:55 am
It's easy when you know how (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Minitar1/Random/exifgrab.jpg).  ;)

Very interesting.

It also throws up the classic privacy issue of phones defaulting to tag your photographs with the location in which they were taken.

I've just had a look at a couple I've taken and turning off the geo-tag does do the trick.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: AndyK on July 19, 2012, 07:13:29 pm
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Minitar1/Phone%20Stuff/IMG_1618.jpg)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Minitar1/Phone%20Stuff/IMG_1614.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Jacomus on July 20, 2012, 09:38:38 am
(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/jacomus-rides-Gen/IMAG0004.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on July 20, 2012, 11:03:09 pm
I don't think turning off geolocation would help in this case..

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8145/7609016246_483459ccd4_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/7609016246/)
didcot (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/7609016246/) by davidmamartin (http://www.flickr.com/people/davidmam/), on Flickr

A quick snap as I went past on the train today.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Jacomus on August 24, 2012, 04:46:53 pm
From our recent trip to Paris. Phone is an HTC One X.

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/jacomus-rides-Gen/5c6713af.jpg)

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/jacomus-rides-Gen/c8c05ef0.jpg)

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/jacomus-rides-Gen/030cc7a0.jpg)

(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/jacomus-rides-Gen/285584b9.jpg)

Bonus image :D

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: AndyK on August 24, 2012, 05:27:43 pm
From our recent trip to Paris. Phone is an HTC One X.(http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t299/jacomus-rides-Gen/5c6713af.jpg)

Love this. Makes you wonder what the gargoyle is thinking!
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Jacomus on August 24, 2012, 05:32:37 pm
Thank you.

The gargoyle is looking in the direction of the Eiffel Tower, which made me think 'grumble grumble, 123-years of staring at that bloody thing!' ;D
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on September 12, 2012, 08:17:48 am
Christoph Denoth, post main course entertainment at the conference dinner.
(http://a.yfrog.com/img737/1334/d39ni.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: PaulF on September 12, 2012, 08:40:51 am
My new local loop

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8319/7944814282_cb05af4919_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paul_fulford/7944814282/)
Devil's Punchbowl (http://www.flickr.com/photos/paul_fulford/7944814282/) by paulfulford (http://www.flickr.com/people/paul_fulford/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Ian H on September 12, 2012, 10:57:39 am
Not far from Heathrow.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/552128_3719387191319_838061668_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on September 12, 2012, 11:14:08 am
Love this. Makes you wonder what the gargoyle is thinking!
<pedant hat on> ahem. That is a grotesque, not a gargoyle (gargoyles spout water)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Jurek on September 17, 2012, 05:19:12 pm
Hole-in-the-hoarding.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8319/7996467685_7ecd111dbe_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: AndyK on September 17, 2012, 05:23:23 pm
Not far from Heathrow.

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/552128_3719387191319_838061668_n.jpg)

Sky graffiti, I hate it (the sky graffiti, not your photo).
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Sergeant Pluck on September 17, 2012, 05:24:17 pm
Hole-in-the-hoarding.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8319/7996467685_7ecd111dbe_b.jpg)

Superb!
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Ian H on September 17, 2012, 07:22:31 pm


Sky graffiti, I hate it (the sky graffiti, not your photo).

It has a certain apocalyptic look, doesn't it.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on September 30, 2012, 11:05:17 pm
I've no idea what this is. A square wooden frame filled with rubbery or plasticy sheets in various colours, resting on two logs and clamped to a tree trunk. It was in a belt of trees between the M4 and a large pond which seems to be now used as a fishing lake, somewhere to the west of Swindon. There was another, black and yellow, just beyond it.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8031/8038691637_88880e3dfb.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on October 01, 2012, 10:26:19 pm
This sign is just outside High Littleton on the lane to Timsbury. I thought it was fairly unusual to have a roadsign commemorating a person.

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8462/8044939092_4df08a7ae0.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on March 28, 2013, 02:04:09 pm
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8234/8596801573_04e971ef2f_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/8596801573/)
sunshine (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/8596801573/) by davidmamartin (http://www.flickr.com/people/davidmam/), on Flickr

Actual real genuine sunlight in the lab.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Feanor on April 06, 2013, 05:47:37 pm
Interestingly named house on this afternoon's ride:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8124/8624198869_1f654b5f6a_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8624198869/)
IMG_20130406_154013 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8624198869/) by Ron Lowe (http://www.flickr.com/people/62966413@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 10, 2013, 10:35:12 am
A few

Coffee
(click to show/hide)

Happy couple
(click to show/hide)

Me and that bridge
(click to show/hide)

Sunset on stari grad
(click to show/hide)

More stari grad
(click to show/hide)



Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Rhys W on April 11, 2013, 10:14:17 pm
Me and that bridge
(click to show/hide)

What happened to your corks, mate?  ;)  :P  ;D
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Jaded on April 12, 2013, 01:21:10 am
A few

Happy couple
(click to show/hide)


It was cruel not to tell him that he had a monstrous bogie.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 12, 2013, 10:56:40 am
Me and that bridge
(click to show/hide)

What happened to your corks, mate?  ;)  :P  ;D

Yeah, corks on hats, helps protect against the drop bears  ::-)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: mrcharly-YHT on April 12, 2013, 10:57:36 am
A few

Happy couple
(click to show/hide)


It was cruel not to tell him that he had a monstrous bogie.
He's coming round to play cards on Sat night. I'll pass on your comment. I'm sure he will be grateful for the observation.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Feanor on April 28, 2013, 04:43:19 pm
Aberdeen Beach Graffiti

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7043/8689609744_511ce03c0a_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8689609744/)
IMG_20130428_102945[1] (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8689609744/) by Ron Lowe (http://www.flickr.com/people/62966413@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: bumper on April 28, 2013, 05:02:23 pm
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8397/8681075174_41852d0b15.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumixm43/8681075174/)
It feels like years since it's been here..... (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumixm43/8681075174/) by  DJB (http://www.flickr.com/people/lumixm43/), on Flickr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7046/8688855052_d9f66e6b42.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumixm43/8688855052/)
The world revolving around you (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumixm43/8688855052/) by  DJB (http://www.flickr.com/people/lumixm43/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Feanor on April 30, 2013, 01:52:03 pm
One for Roger...
This morning, in a local supermarket in Tulsa:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8398/8694863125_9ef554445c_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8694863125/)
Rimming Sugar (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8694863125/) by Ron Lowe (http://www.flickr.com/people/62966413@N04/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on April 30, 2013, 02:53:29 pm
One for Roger...
This morning, in a local supermarket in Tulsa:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8398/8694863125_9ef554445c_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8694863125/)
Rimming Sugar (http://www.flickr.com/photos/62966413@N04/8694863125/) by Ron Lowe (http://www.flickr.com/people/62966413@N04/), on Flickr

This means that "Rimming" is a valid answer to the question: "So Barman, what have you been doing all day?"

Mind you I once saw some rather hurtful grafitti, "Alex Rims" on some poor bastard's (Alex presumably) wheels.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Riggers on May 14, 2013, 09:32:34 am
Brighton Beach.

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/BrightonBeach_zps71110ac9.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/BrightonBeach_zps71110ac9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: clarion on May 14, 2013, 10:53:35 am
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v326/ado15/5ea7a7f0-472f-466b-b2ac-c21cc84bc0bc_zpsa396dc54.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/ado15/media/5ea7a7f0-472f-466b-b2ac-c21cc84bc0bc_zpsa396dc54.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on May 14, 2013, 11:23:24 am
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L6OZL-fEK6k/UZIQc5PXRkI/AAAAAAAABCY/nqbzGcKw2Ig/w902-h688-no/IMAG0095-001.jpg)

HTC Desire S (The phone that is)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: loafer on August 11, 2013, 04:44:38 pm
htc wildfire s any idea what it is
(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u333/lonecyclist/larry017_zpse1e83735.jpg) (http://s517.photobucket.com/user/lonecyclist/media/larry017_zpse1e83735.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on August 13, 2013, 04:29:37 pm
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-V0oL1RWf-do/UffBHtx4LAI/AAAAAAAACFg/EN9vzFZ9LbE/w957-h734-no/storm+2-001.jpg)

Samsung Galaxy S (9300)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on August 13, 2013, 04:30:48 pm
That is rather nice.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on August 14, 2013, 10:33:17 am
That is rather nice.
Thanks, I'll take that as high praise indeed.

We were out walking through Hampshire fields one evening when a thunderstorm rolled in.  30 minutes later were were getting truly soaked but this was at that magical time when you are stood in bright sun watching someone else, a few miles away, getting soaked.

It's possibly the first photo I've taken on a phone that I don't regret not having a "proper" camera with me.

That's 30% down to the improvement in Camera-Phones but 70% down to the ambient conditions matching the phone's capabilities nicely.

They still don't do a very good job with less than perfect lighting.  I think the trick is to understand your phone's capabilities and you can squeeze a decent photo out of them occasionally. 

Of course any photo is sometimes better than none and I have some fairly awful images, but of some lovely memories, courtesy of my phone.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andyoxon on September 14, 2013, 11:21:53 am
Here one from my initial crop of photos from my first smartphone (Huawei Ascend Y300) 

5MP camera.  I needed to set WB cloudy, as auto was too undersaturated, and also took the exposure down to -1 (as DR not great as expected).  Sharpened a tad in Picasa.

Not too bad really, considering the fingerprint on lens I've just noticed.  ;)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7419/9738818483_0dd2852ee8_o.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25983110@N05/9738818483/)
IMG_20130914_110857 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/25983110@N05/9738818483/) by ao (http://www.flickr.com/people/25983110@N05/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: bloomers100 on September 14, 2013, 12:19:34 pm
(http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx158/Bloomers100/049E6951-2B81-4927-B0A9-76C81F688A81-6219-000003E3BBB68347_zpsebb9a23d.jpg) (http://s751.photobucket.com/user/Bloomers100/media/049E6951-2B81-4927-B0A9-76C81F688A81-6219-000003E3BBB68347_zpsebb9a23d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: marcusjb on September 30, 2013, 12:54:37 pm
By luck rather than judgement:

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5530/10018143183_b0863acd54_b.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on October 09, 2013, 10:47:10 am
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PpB09xFQSd0/UlUl3yePF7I/AAAAAAAACSI/mHKCChngj1Q/w702-h542-no/Church-001.jpg)

Quarley, St Michael's Church
HTC Desire S

I think the sweaty lens (phone stuffed in rear pocket) added to the effect rather than subtracted from it.

I'm finding that, with my "old" HTC and my Wife's new Samsung, if you take 5-10 photos at various settings/metering you tend to come away with a couple of decent photos, good enough for full screen display on a large monitor.  Certainly capable of more than a 10x8" size print.

In that respect they have definitely moved on from the "crap but better than nothing at all" device of just a few years ago.

Ambient light is still the limiting factor, I've yet to see one deal with difficult lighting conditions well.  I don't see the point of a LOMO camera when most camera phones exhibit most of the (desirable?) image issues of a LOMO camera/film (or have a built-in LOMO filter).
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Peter on October 09, 2013, 11:14:36 am
That looks great - New Forest?
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Peter on October 09, 2013, 11:17:35 am
htc wildfire s any idea what it is
(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u333/lonecyclist/larry017_zpse1e83735.jpg) (http://s517.photobucket.com/user/lonecyclist/media/larry017_zpse1e83735.jpg.html)

Loafer, I've only just seen this; it's a swallow-tail moth.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on October 09, 2013, 11:18:33 am
That looks great - New Forest?

About 30km north of NF.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Peter on October 09, 2013, 11:42:48 am
Yes, sorry, I didn't notice you'd put the place!
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: loafer on October 09, 2013, 09:54:51 pm
htc wildfire s any idea what it is
(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u333/lonecyclist/larry017_zpse1e83735.jpg) (http://s517.photobucket.com/user/lonecyclist/media/larry017_zpse1e83735.jpg.html)

Loafer, I've only just seen this; it's a swallow-tail moth.

 thanks peter  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on October 24, 2013, 10:17:00 am
I am very very pleased with this from my old HTC Desire S

It's "The Holy Trinity" taken last night into a very interesting sky.  Just sharpened a touch but nothing else.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-FgItKtEzJVY/UmjkorZJa9I/AAAAAAAACS8/WIXKBuFAbHQ/w957-h573-no/Holy+Trinity+1.jpg)

The Holy Trinity?

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: tiermat on December 19, 2013, 08:16:26 am
The moon rise, at my digs, a couple of nights ago:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-DM_PDKvinLs/UrCC8T3rtOI/AAAAAAAAFFY/RpvMZne_dow/w992-h561-no/IMAG0007.jpg)

ETA: photo taken with a HTC One
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on January 01, 2014, 02:12:58 pm
Any photos from your new Christmas toys?

Interested to see iPhone 5 and especially the new Nokia Lumia 41Mp
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on January 05, 2014, 01:20:19 pm
Interesting article from DPREVIEW

http://connect.dpreview.com/post/5533410947/smartphones-versus-dslr-versus-film?page=4 (http://connect.dpreview.com/post/5533410947/smartphones-versus-dslr-versus-film?page=4)

Summary

Quote
It’s sobering to look back at the old reviews of the cameras that we included. The earliest, the Canon EOS10D was a marvel of 2003. Phil Askey from DPReview described it as “the absolute best in its class, with the best image quality, lowest high sensitivity noise, superb build quality and excellent price.” He described the “Excellent resolution”, the “Noise free ‘silky smooth’ images”, with “very low noise levels even at ISO 1600.” The EOS 10D ran rings around the film that we’d been using for 50 years in terms of clarity and freedom from grain.

Yet it’s comprehensively humbled by modern phones. The iPhone out-shoots it, and the Nokia out-resolves it, all by huge margins.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on January 08, 2014, 01:01:05 pm
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7421/11834206096_67fbce01ed_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/11834206096/)
IMAG1937 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/11834206096/) by davidmamartin (http://www.flickr.com/people/davidmam/), on Flickr

This morning on my way in.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on January 08, 2014, 01:06:19 pm
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7421/11834206096_67fbce01ed_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/11834206096/)
IMAG1937 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/11834206096/) by davidmamartin (http://www.flickr.com/people/davidmam/), on Flickr

This morning on my way in.

HTC Desire S ?

It's done a nice job of difficult light.  The detail in the tree branches is ridiculous for a "pin hole" lens.

Just looking at your FLIKR stuff.  Apart from the obvious telephoto lens, it's not obvious, quality wise, where the HTC photos run into the D80 photos.

I'm tempted to drive out to a favourite photo spot, armed with all my family's cast off phones and do a head-to-head.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on January 08, 2014, 01:20:40 pm
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8397/8681075174_41852d0b15.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumixm43/8681075174/)
It feels like years since it's been here..... (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumixm43/8681075174/) by  DJB (http://www.flickr.com/people/lumixm43/), on Flickr

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7046/8688855052_d9f66e6b42.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumixm43/8688855052/)
The world revolving around you (http://www.flickr.com/photos/lumixm43/8688855052/) by  DJB (http://www.flickr.com/people/lumixm43/), on Flickr

iPhone 5 according to FLIKR (running some in-camera effects.)

Stunning I think.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: bumper on January 08, 2014, 01:23:51 pm
Thanks Lee, too kind :thumbsup:

Love playing with my iphone. It's all I use now, always with me too unlike my dslrs.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on January 08, 2014, 10:56:46 pm
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7421/11834206096_67fbce01ed_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/11834206096/)
IMAG1937 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/11834206096/) by davidmamartin (http://www.flickr.com/people/davidmam/), on Flickr

This morning on my way in.

HTC Desire S ?

It's done a nice job of difficult light.  The detail in the tree branches is ridiculous for a "pin hole" lens.

Just looking at your FLIKR stuff.  Apart from the obvious telephoto lens, it's not obvious, quality wise, where the HTC photos run into the D80 photos.

I'm tempted to drive out to a favourite photo spot, armed with all my family's cast off phones and do a head-to-head.

If the exposure is spot on and within a credible range then the Desire S does very well. As soon as you want telephoto, action, or difficult exposures then it falls down on enlargement to full screen. There is almost no detail in the shadow - the D80 would have kept some (and the D610 a bit more) but one was at home and the other at work.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: loafer on April 18, 2014, 09:35:23 pm
nokia lumia 920         my g/f not impressed with the weather.... :)

(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u333/lonecyclist/WP_20140323_001_zps3738fc95.jpg) (http://s517.photobucket.com/user/lonecyclist/media/WP_20140323_001_zps3738fc95.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: T42 on April 18, 2014, 09:45:52 pm
Motorola MB525:

(http://www.pbase.com/johnewing/image/154374627.jpg)

After my eye op in February. 
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: bumper on April 18, 2014, 09:49:47 pm
Motorola MB525:

(http://www.pbase.com/johnewing/image/154374627.jpg)

After my eye op in February.

Eye op OR I hop

The buggers taken your other leg off!
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on October 29, 2014, 11:09:18 am
Just got a new (Mk2) Motorola Moto G.  It's a £149 phone so nothing special but it has an 8Mp camera on the back and a 2Mp "selfie" camera on the front.

I'm always amazed by the pin-hole "selfie" cameras, that they manage to produce anything at all but check this out...

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-RXTWpovCSMY/VFDIFGcI6dI/AAAAAAAAEZU/Eg1UR3zY-eo/w1280-h720-no/20141029100342.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-k-pJ2FKvbY8/VFDIFPvRyII/AAAAAAAAEZY/nZDSUFtMy4o/w1280-h720-no/20141029100403.jpg)

The top photo is in 6Mp mode (widescreen) and the bottom is the 2Mp "pin-hole" camera.  Perfectly usable for a 6x4 print.
In fact, in some respects, it's actually better.

The main camera resolves detail, colours and contrast better but I'm still impressed by the bottom image (after a bit of tweaking to get come contrast and sharpness back).

The lens is perhaps a millimetre in diameter at most.  Incredible.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 03, 2014, 09:41:27 am
My first chance to play with the MOTO G Mk2.  Oct 2104.

It's clear to me that, even with a fairly cheap (if you can consider a £150 phone cheap) phone, forgetting your "real" camera is getting to be much less of an issue, as long as you understand the limitations of the lens and sensor size.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_bbSorpEAEc/VFdMq5lXOII/AAAAAAAAEaQ/TZaEWkCyJBg/w1598-h664-no/MOTO%2BG%2BStonehenge%2B1.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Htt6BKopKe4/VFdMp2vNtgI/AAAAAAAAEaI/tWlnXaq7KWQ/w736-h865-no/MOTO%2BG%2BBrighton%2B3.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WW1ccMxWAyg/VFdMpbkAXGI/AAAAAAAAEaA/kaukShANYOM/w1538-h865-no/MOTO%2BG%2BBrighton%2B1.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2Q4tnlMAFU4/VFdMpjkNbWI/AAAAAAAAEaM/K-WOxeSAExg/w1538-h865-no/MOTO%2BG%2BBrighton%2B2.jpg)

Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: T42 on November 03, 2014, 11:14:07 am
All very impressive, even if a bit of noise is visible.

I like the idea of taking stealthy street shots disguised as selfies.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: sg37409 on November 03, 2014, 01:27:20 pm
Just got a new (Mk2) Motorola Moto G.  It's a £149 phone so nothing special but it has an 8Mp camera on the back and a 2Mp "selfie" camera on the front.
The main camera resolves detail, colours and contrast better but I'm still impressed by the bottom image (after a bit of tweaking to get come contrast and sharpness back).

Out of interest, can you post the pin-hole capture before your bit of tweaking ?
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 03, 2014, 02:02:37 pm
Just got a new (Mk2) Motorola Moto G.  It's a £149 phone so nothing special but it has an 8Mp camera on the back and a 2Mp "selfie" camera on the front.
The main camera resolves detail, colours and contrast better but I'm still impressed by the bottom image (after a bit of tweaking to get come contrast and sharpness back).

Out of interest, can you post the pin-hole capture before your bit of tweaking ?

I don't have the originals so here are 2 new ones, straight out of the phone, stood in the same spot (not zoomed, that's just the focal lengths of the 2 lenses)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zdFf1tndcTM/VFeKoAMZMHI/AAAAAAAAEbE/2ON2mOQ-DTc/w1538-h865-no/a%2BMOTO%2BG%2B2M.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gSoUr6llNL4/VFeKo8jM52I/AAAAAAAAEbM/ova9lhCpcAg/w1538-h865-no/a%2BMOTO%2BG%2B6M.jpg)


To put it in perspective, I paid about £300, in 2001, for a 2Mp Fuji.  I then had to pay about £50 for a 256Mb card (I think that's what I paid).
I put 32Gb of storage in the phone for £12.  It would take me quite a while to list all the functions of a modern Android phone (Video player, Music system, diary......etc, etc for a hundred other functions).

It's all pretty extraordinary to think about the tech available in a mobile phone. 
I know that the Guildford Space Centre use mobile phones for the internals of some of their satellite experiments because they have all the tech they need (GPS, powerful processors, accelerometers, powerful "radio" transmitters..).

The latest batch of phones have 4K video capability (which says as much about their processing power as their video capability).

Here's some 720p footage from mine at the weekend.  Obviously I wouldn't have said no to 1080p but hey-ho, it's not too bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX4sGkENdsM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX4sGkENdsM)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Riggers on November 03, 2014, 02:10:52 pm
I notice the grey car wasn't in the first batch of photos, and the green recycling bags have mysteriously disappeared beside the wooden fence.

You can't get much past me.

Can I have a book token for my prize please?
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 03, 2014, 02:16:23 pm
I don't have the originals so here are 2 new ones, straight out of the phone, stood in the same spot (not zoomed, that's just the focal lengths of the 2 lenses)

I'm not trying to trick anyone
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Riggers on November 03, 2014, 02:37:48 pm
Pah! I haven't got time to read! Just send the damn Postal Order you swine!
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: sg37409 on November 03, 2014, 06:45:23 pm
Thanks lee.  I guess the top one is the pin-hole.  I was asking as I've tried "correcting" / tweaking some of my photos before with pretty crap results, so I wanted to see what could be done. Ive only ever used old canon software for this, I dont have photoshop or anything.

Agreed, the tech in mobiles is amazing. Pity it cant improve the weather.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 03, 2014, 08:04:54 pm
Just got a new (Mk2) Motorola Moto G.  It's a £149 phone so nothing special but it has an 8Mp camera on the back and a 2Mp "selfie" camera on the front.
The main camera resolves detail, colours and contrast better but I'm still impressed by the bottom image (after a bit of tweaking to get come contrast and sharpness back).

Out of interest, can you post the pin-hole capture before your bit of tweaking ?

I don't have the originals so here are 2 new ones, straight out of the phone, stood in the same spot (not zoomed, that's just the focal lengths of the 2 lenses)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zdFf1tndcTM/VFeKoAMZMHI/AAAAAAAAEbE/2ON2mOQ-DTc/w1538-h865-no/a%2BMOTO%2BG%2B2M.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gSoUr6llNL4/VFeKo8jM52I/AAAAAAAAEbM/ova9lhCpcAg/w1538-h865-no/a%2BMOTO%2BG%2B6M.jpg)


To put it in perspective, I paid about £300, in 2001, for a 2Mp Fuji.  I then had to pay about £50 for a 256Mb card (I think that's what I paid).
I put 32Gb of storage in the phone for £12.  It would take me quite a while to list all the functions of a modern Android phone (Video player, Music system, diary......etc, etc for a hundred other functions).

It's all pretty extraordinary to think about the tech available in a mobile phone. 
I know that the Guildford Space Centre use mobile phones for the internals of some of their satellite experiments because they have all the tech they need (GPS, powerful processors, accelerometers, powerful "radio" transmitters..).

The latest batch of phones have 4K video capability (which says as much about their processing power as their video capability).

Here's some 720p footage from mine at the weekend.  Obviously I wouldn't have said no to 1080p but hey-ho, it's not too bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX4sGkENdsM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX4sGkENdsM)

Here are 640x480 pixel crops from the two untouched images

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-7sJGd496xK0/VFfffj7CtcI/AAAAAAAAEbw/awqF2dWLhSw/w640-h480-no/a%2BMOTO%2BG%2B2M%2Bcrop.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zdj-ldTRQO8/VFffgGWg6TI/AAAAAAAAEb0/wfEgKiOUXIU/w640-h480-no/a%2BMOTO%2BG%2B6M%2Bcrop.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Ian H on November 03, 2014, 09:55:52 pm
Nothing technical, just a small piece of a larger picture.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-XKVS1sL5I3A/VFVwYddD8FI/AAAAAAAAHs8/atdP2wIxQhc/w462-h342-no/DSC_0182%7E2.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: RJ on November 03, 2014, 11:40:58 pm
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5578/14820879038_62dc476980_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/ozESZd)
Preparation (https://flic.kr/p/ozESZd) by rjevans6 (https://www.flickr.com/people/7194134@N06/), on Flickr

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3955/15342377048_468f9c78d4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pnKGbd)
Loch na Keal, Mull (https://flic.kr/p/pnKGbd) by rjevans6 (https://www.flickr.com/people/7194134@N06/), on Flickr

HTC Desire S - as taken
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: adenough on November 05, 2014, 10:01:00 pm
Blackberry 8900
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8478/8172112006_01954ef1d0.jpg)
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2884/12305315473_31c02b9c02.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Jakob on November 05, 2014, 11:50:10 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10710980_10204657744260778_5493656014818334044_n.jpg?oh=41a16318189976cbc247d97b50c97ec3&oe=54DF08DF&__gda__=1423081161_2b0c926e62ca1dc5451360e0f9391380)

Dude Chilling Park on a autumn morning

Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 07, 2014, 03:26:45 pm
don't forget to add details of the camera, Mega pixel count, filters applied.....etc,
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: T42 on November 07, 2014, 04:02:27 pm
One from July last year

(http://www.pbase.com/johnewing/image/153148869.jpg)
Tora! Tora! Tora!

Motorola MB525 1/929s f/2.8 at 4.0mm iso57


One from February this year

(http://www.pbase.com/johnewing/image/154374627.jpg)

1/15s f/2.8 at 4.0mm iso199

Think it's 5 Mp, can't remember. It's more of an instrument of record than a camera.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Ian H on November 07, 2014, 06:08:11 pm
don't forget to add details of the camera, Mega pixel count, filters applied.....etc,

Eh?
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 07, 2014, 06:15:43 pm
don't forget to add details of the camera, Mega pixel count, filters applied.....etc,

Eh?

I mean phone, not camera.  Just so people, interested in using a phone as a camera, can decide if a particular model is good enough for what they want.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 07, 2014, 06:19:37 pm
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10710980_10204657744260778_5493656014818334044_n.jpg?oh=41a16318189976cbc247d97b50c97ec3&oe=54DF08DF&__gda__=1423081161_2b0c926e62ca1dc5451360e0f9391380)

Dude Chilling Park on a autumn morning

There is detail in the shadows and everything.  That's impressive.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Ian H on November 07, 2014, 06:25:35 pm
don't forget to add details of the camera, Mega pixel count, filters applied.....etc,

Eh?

I mean phone, not camera.  Just so people, interested in using a phone as a camera, can decide if a particular model is good enough for what they want.

I was being a little facetious. My phone is just point'n'press (as I use it). 5mg pixels and auto setting.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Jakob on November 07, 2014, 11:17:45 pm
don't forget to add details of the camera, Mega pixel count, filters applied.....etc,

Oops, iPhone5, straight to facebook jpg, then here.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: T42 on November 08, 2014, 01:41:05 pm
don't forget to add details of the camera, Mega pixel count, filters applied.....etc,

Eh?

I mean phone, not camera.  Just so people, interested in using a phone as a camera, can decide if a particular model is good enough for what they want.

I was being a little facetious. My phone is just point'n'press (as I use it). 5mg pixels and auto setting.

It's all in the EXIF.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: urban_biker on November 25, 2014, 07:40:46 am
16mp Samsung Galaxy S5 Zoomed and cropped and "enhanced"

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r137/dcounsell/010_zpse0ab5fbc.jpg) (http://s143.photobucket.com/user/dcounsell/media/010_zpse0ab5fbc.jpg.html)

This is it before cropping.

(http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r137/dcounsell/002_zpsd530a537.jpg) (http://s143.photobucket.com/user/dcounsell/media/002_zpsd530a537.jpg.html)


Note, this was taken yesterday 24th November 2014!!



Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 25, 2014, 10:37:24 am
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3955/15342377048_468f9c78d4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pnKGbd)
Loch na Keal, Mull (https://flic.kr/p/pnKGbd) by rjevans6 (https://www.flickr.com/people/7194134@N06/), on Flickr


I love the razor-thin sliver of land connecting the 3 main "lumps".
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 25, 2014, 10:39:57 am
While we're at it, why not post videos shot on a Phone-camera?

Motorola Moto G (MkII) - 720p only.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX4sGkENdsM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qX4sGkENdsM)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 26, 2014, 12:35:54 pm
More from the MOTO G

(Note.  I found that the App "Camera Awesome" allowed me to override the exposure setting better than some photo Apps. You can select where to focus and, separately, take an exposure reading from another area.  This means, for example, that you can expose for a dark subject even when the supplied camera really wants to expose for a bright sky as in the Cathedral shot, which would be a silhouette otherwise ).

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ebu8_yzWetM/VHXHG3jf50I/AAAAAAAAEdU/f9KdDFzuiYo/w1470-h865-no/Butchers%2BSalisbury.jpg)

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-CQyIwZwcV54/VHXHGevSo-I/AAAAAAAAEdQ/2jMUokO19R4/w1369-h865-no/Cathedral%2Ba.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gMi_j16d04c/VHXHH_5oTnI/AAAAAAAAEdg/Dlp0iEFZSjI/w487-h865-no/Cathedral%2Bb.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-IYDbmv6NABg/VHXHH1TXBiI/AAAAAAAAEd8/iwLABl6Ux6A/w1538-h865-no/Cathedral%2Bc.jpg)

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1MHuhNnXn6s/VHXHKLTfReI/AAAAAAAAEeA/ieLtOALDPYg/w1413-h435-no/Trees%2Bat%2BWyke.jpg)

It's going to take some time to familiarise myself with its shortcomings but, like today, it was better than having no camera when forced to kill time for an hour in Salisbury.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Peter on November 26, 2014, 01:55:23 pm
That's excellent stuff, Lee, thanks.  But really, a camera and a cathedral and you are "forced to kill time"?!  You'll be telling me next that being from Stockport forced you to support Manchester Utd.

peter
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 26, 2014, 02:25:28 pm
That's excellent stuff, Lee, thanks.  But really, a camera and a cathedral and you are "forced to kill time"?!  You'll be telling me next that being from Stockport forced you to support Manchester Utd.

peter

OK  I admit it, Salisbury isn't such a bad place to be stuck in for an hour, and, on the subject of Stockport County, I always said I'd support County if they ever played Manchester United in any tournament.  But don't worry, I've spent several miserable damp evenings at Edgeley Park as well as less miserable ones at O.T.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 26, 2014, 02:26:48 pm
I think I'll see what the App "FV-5" is like.  Apparently it allows a lot of manual control of phone cameras.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: pcolbeck on November 27, 2014, 03:20:09 pm
No photo to post but just to say that pcolbeck junior has a Nokia Windows phone with a 20 megapixel camera. The photos are quite stunning really. The OS is horrible though (well I think so, pcolbeck junior loves it).
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on February 24, 2015, 11:18:02 pm
One from the Motorola Moto G Mk2 today.

Given nice sunny conditions it is now no longer an issue when you leave your "real" camera at home.  For a £150 phone it doesn't half produce nice results as a camera.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nd5E6F-2GU8/VO0F7588AWI/AAAAAAAAEm4/E3MEwubIjJM/w1538-h865-no/a%2BMOTO%2BG%2BHarbour%2Ba.jpg)

Original (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nd5E6F-2GU8/VO0F7588AWI/AAAAAAAAEm4/E3MEwubIjJM/w1538-h865-no/a%2BMOTO%2BG%2BHarbour%2Ba.jpg)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nGi1gnGO2Qs/VO2SQQ1MrAI/AAAAAAAAEnU/Dk7V4Q1C2wA/w1538-h865-no/a%2BMOTO%2BG%2BHarbour%2Bb.jpg)

Original (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-nGi1gnGO2Qs/VO2SQQ1MrAI/AAAAAAAAEnU/Dk7V4Q1C2wA/w1538-h865-no/a%2BMOTO%2BG%2BHarbour%2Bb.jpg)

It never ceases to amaze me just how much detail can be resolved through a lens 2mm in diameter.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Peter on February 25, 2015, 04:37:42 pm
Lee, those are great.  Somewhere on The Solent?
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Mr Larrington on February 25, 2015, 06:27:27 pm
Lee on Solent?

(http://legslarry.org.uk/BikeStull/coat_48.png)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Aunt Maud on February 25, 2015, 06:46:19 pm
(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b557/Bugloss/KingsYHA6amPanorama_zpsfa25b42b.jpg)

(http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/b557/Bugloss/Cambrian%206A%20from%20Gospel%20Pass3_zpsqshgg4mt.jpg)

Both iPhone 4S panoramas, 4 shots each, stitched with Adobe Bridge.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on February 25, 2015, 06:57:34 pm
Lee on Solent?

(http://legslarry.org.uk/BikeStull/coat_48.png)

 :D

16km East of Lee on Solent.  Near the road-bridge to Hayling Island, my Back to the Royal Oak pub (yes, the Royal Oak is in a rather splendid location).
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Ian H on February 25, 2015, 07:12:49 pm
Here's a simple pic from my phone. The thing is, I cannot remember where on earth it was taken. Any ideas?

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-KufYy0n5lGw/U6HDXPGcZiI/AAAAAAAAFS8/Ay_bU3aRQLk/w769-h577-no/IMG_121382091333141.jpeg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on March 07, 2015, 11:11:31 pm
Grabbed my wife's Samsung Galaxy 5S as we drove home this evening.

It's a photogenic spot on the River test nearby but the Galaxy is a heck of a phone when it comes to image quality.  Very impressed.  Did a much better job than my Motorola Moto G (which I've been impressed with).  Mind you it is 3x the price.

Last of the evening sun on the nicest day of 2015 so far.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zoRIqh5y-N8/VPuE10_wFJI/AAAAAAAAEp0/C9IvDnMW2pw/w1538-h865-no/a%2BFishing%2BHut%2Bswan%2B2.jpg)

Original HERE (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zoRIqh5y-N8/VPuE10_wFJI/AAAAAAAAEp0/C9IvDnMW2pw/w1538-h865-no/a%2BFishing%2BHut%2Bswan%2B2.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Ian H on March 07, 2015, 11:15:26 pm
Here's the extreme Southwest of Dorset on a sunny day (today, in fact).
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t31.0-8/11008494_10204076597263275_7373105724406451713_o.jpg)  Shot with a Sony Z1.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on March 18, 2015, 09:13:48 am
Grabbed my wife's Samsung Galaxy 5S as we drove home this evening.

It's a photogenic spot on the River test nearby but the Galaxy is a heck of a phone when it comes to image quality.  Very impressed.  Did a much better job than my Motorola Moto G (which I've been impressed with).  Mind you it is 3x the price.

Last of the evening sun on the nicest day of 2015 so far.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zoRIqh5y-N8/VPuE10_wFJI/AAAAAAAAEp0/C9IvDnMW2pw/w1538-h865-no/a%2BFishing%2BHut%2Bswan%2B2.jpg)

Original HERE (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zoRIqh5y-N8/VPuE10_wFJI/AAAAAAAAEp0/C9IvDnMW2pw/w1538-h865-no/a%2BFishing%2BHut%2Bswan%2B2.jpg)

My Sony K800i shot from 2008 (before fishing hut was washed away and rebuilt last year)

(http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u249/freddered/Various/DSC00242a.jpg?t=1225905433)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: tiermat on March 18, 2015, 09:27:01 am
Shot using my OPO with ColorOS Camera to produce a 50Mp picture.

The tower of Towers Hotel, Jersey Marine, Swansea.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-to963ieZTqQ/VPgCl8VqB_I/AAAAAAAAGx4/bewCMZ0hOfw/w645-h860-no/IMG20150304190431.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on April 06, 2015, 01:28:36 pm
Yesterday in Battersea.  Motorola Moto G Mk2.

I'm still very pleased with the phone. 

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-obFOBbcevBU/VSJ7UTXRtoI/AAAAAAAAEtg/ApdXW5q1Oqg/w1538-h865-no/Battersea%2Bboat.jpg)

A couple of in-phone image tweaks.

Larger (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-obFOBbcevBU/VSJ7UTXRtoI/AAAAAAAAEtg/ApdXW5q1Oqg/w1538-h865-no/Battersea%2Bboat.jpg)

Obligatory London bus crossing a bridge
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VuzD8ztMRn0/VSJ8VTDGtZI/AAAAAAAAEuI/kskdIDavt8c/w1538-h865-no/a%2BLondon%2BBus%2BBattersea.jpg)

Larger (https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VuzD8ztMRn0/VSJ8VTDGtZI/AAAAAAAAEuI/kskdIDavt8c/w1538-h865-no/a%2BLondon%2BBus%2BBattersea.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Riggers on April 27, 2015, 01:47:17 pm
Some of what little Bradley's been up to this year (Instagram: @mr.rigs):

Had a visit to Granada in February:

I told him he couldn't go offroading with these Granada chaps:

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/BradleyGranadaRiders_zpsncs9e9el.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/BradleyGranadaRiders_zpsncs9e9el.jpg.html)

Up at the Alahambra:

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/BradleyAlhambra1_zpsw9ctt7nn.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/BradleyAlhambra1_zpsw9ctt7nn.jpg.html)

Offroading north of Chichester in March:

(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/BradleyOffroad_zpscmbjgv0j.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/BradleyOffroad_zpscmbjgv0j.jpg.html)

Visiting Hong Kong in April:

A view from Bradley's manager's son's kitchen:
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/BradleyElginSt_zpspjmew7kg.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/BradleyElginSt_zpspjmew7kg.jpg.html)

Cycling along Queen's Street:
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/BradleyHK1_zpsrrc4xjaq.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/BradleyHK1_zpsrrc4xjaq.jpg.html)

Mixing it with the traffic in Kowloon:
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/BradleyKowloon_zpswksf4pju.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/BradleyKowloon_zpswksf4pju.jpg.html)

Cycled down to the beach at Big Wave Bay:
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/BradleyBigWaveBay_zpsjs3qk6tu.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/BradleyBigWaveBay_zpsjs3qk6tu.jpg.html)

Cycles past the big Buddha on Lantau island:
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/BradleyBuddha_zps3r8sspml.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/BradleyBuddha_zps3r8sspml.jpg.html)

Encounters a fan dressed as a giant Panda:
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/BradleyPanda_zpsehpo84jn.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/BradleyPanda_zpsehpo84jn.jpg.html)

Watches Kung Fu practice in Kowloon Park. Despite their looks, they were jolly friendly and loved Bradley:(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/BradleyKungFu_zpsetnyc8sl.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/BradleyKungFu_zpsetnyc8sl.jpg.html)

Cycled up The Peak:
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/BradleyThePeak_zpshguknuqz.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/BradleyThePeak_zpshguknuqz.jpg.html)

Puffs and pants his way along The Dragon's Back walk:
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/BradleyDragonsBack_zpsmio8psqs.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/BradleyDragonsBack_zpsmio8psqs.jpg.html)

Does a bit of 'Art':
(http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b176/Riggers_1956/BradleyArt1_zpsinielxhm.jpg) (http://s19.photobucket.com/user/Riggers_1956/media/BradleyArt1_zpsinielxhm.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: loafer on June 20, 2015, 04:14:21 pm
Nokia Lumia 920

popped to the bin and found............. Brian  ;D... its very damp here today  ;)

(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u333/lonecyclist/WP_20150620_0041_zpse2fjqo1i.jpg) (http://s517.photobucket.com/user/lonecyclist/media/WP_20150620_0041_zpse2fjqo1i.jpg.html)

(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u333/lonecyclist/WP_20150620_0051_zps2yoohpod.jpg) (http://s517.photobucket.com/user/lonecyclist/media/WP_20150620_0051_zps2yoohpod.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: billplumtree on June 21, 2015, 06:05:34 pm
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3934/18837280758_fbb8098bf9_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uGzZhJ)
National Media Museum, Bradford (https://flic.kr/p/uGzZhJ) by billplumtree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/billplumtree/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Mr Larrington on June 21, 2015, 11:40:52 pm
"You lookin' at at me?"
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: T42 on June 22, 2015, 07:39:27 am
(http://www.pbase.com/johnewing/image/160461881.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on June 22, 2015, 08:32:57 am
Nokia Lumia 920

popped to the bin and found............. Brian  ;D... its very damp here today  ;)

(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u333/lonecyclist/WP_20150620_0041_zpse2fjqo1i.jpg) (http://s517.photobucket.com/user/lonecyclist/media/WP_20150620_0041_zpse2fjqo1i.jpg.html)

(http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u333/lonecyclist/WP_20150620_0051_zps2yoohpod.jpg) (http://s517.photobucket.com/user/lonecyclist/media/WP_20150620_0051_zps2yoohpod.jpg.html)

Weirdly if you remove the shell from a Snail it makes them more sluggish.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Wombat on June 22, 2015, 01:04:57 pm
(https://c4.staticflickr.com/4/3934/18837280758_fbb8098bf9_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/uGzZhJ)
National Media Museum, Bradford (https://flic.kr/p/uGzZhJ) by billplumtree (https://www.flickr.com/photos/billplumtree/), on Flickr

Yep, I stared at that photo for quite a while, too.  Went there a few weeks ago, after doing an event in Leeds.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: T42 on June 22, 2015, 09:29:34 pm
We have the Nat Geog that originally appeared in/on.  Funny feeling having seen the beginning of something that later became as famous.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on December 14, 2015, 10:08:50 am
Two phones, 9 years.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YxeTHOTnIpU/Vm6UvXTQ6gI/AAAAAAAAGCM/nEOEZ3wblgM/s912-Ic42/2007%252520Nokia%252520Fishing%252520Hut.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ks8TlYuZepU/Vm6UvyojWeI/AAAAAAAAGCQ/Gq_mA7ffw0I/s912-Ic42/2015%252520Samsung%252520Galaxy%252520S5.jpg)

...and a rebuilt fishing hut.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on May 25, 2016, 08:35:10 pm
Motorola Moto G (2nd gen) £100

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-304DnWNRnvg/V0X9VaX3a7I/AAAAAAAAHeo/snOu0FzhrH0vqKfDYsjSSWBFTV5J9yFGACL0B/w1538-h865-no/St%2BMalo%2BMOTO%2BG%2BPS%2B1.jpg)

BIGGER (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-304DnWNRnvg/V0X9VaX3a7I/AAAAAAAAHeo/snOu0FzhrH0vqKfDYsjSSWBFTV5J9yFGACL0B/w1538-h865-no/St%2BMalo%2BMOTO%2BG%2BPS%2B1.jpg)

Samsung Galaxy S5 (£350 ?)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bDXD2uPWum0/V0X9XLXLTUI/AAAAAAAAHe0/YLUdFww8_yMfc1KXbwpoposYKgNiyAeYACCo/s1152/St%2BMalo%2BSamsung%2BS5%2BPS%2B1.jpg)

BIGGER (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bDXD2uPWum0/V0X9XLXLTUI/AAAAAAAAHe0/YLUdFww8_yMfc1KXbwpoposYKgNiyAeYACCo/s1152/St%2BMalo%2BSamsung%2BS5%2BPS%2B1.jpg)

The household is about to take delivery of a (too mind-boggling expensive for me) Galaxy S7 Edge.  I'm interested to see what results that gives.

One thing is clear to me though.  If you just want traditional 6x4 prints or images to simply display on another phone then the £100 Motorola Moto G is fantastically adequate as a camera. The differences only really start to emerge once you drill down and start pixel-peeping.  a 10" Tablet starts to reveal the quality of the Samsung S5 camera.

For reference here is an image from a Canon S120 compact (albeit a >£400 compact when released).
It was set to a very wide 24mm, so it's not a perfect comparison. 

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cxl5a7nhi2o/V0YArJkG8BI/AAAAAAAAHfI/ZeqSROYjiiM2Wd935AcSx_1EVCWYTcDjwCCo/s1152/St%2BMalo%2BCanon%2BS120%2BPS.jpg)

BIGGER (https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-cxl5a7nhi2o/V0YArJkG8BI/AAAAAAAAHfI/ZeqSROYjiiM2Wd935AcSx_1EVCWYTcDjwCCo/s1152/St%2BMalo%2BCanon%2BS120%2BPS.jpg)

For a well lit, wide-angle, scene, with no difficult lighting (high contrast or very flat) then you may as well reach for a phone as a camera. Certainly a simple, £100, Jpeg-only compact camera won't buy you much extra.

Add difficult lighting, or the need for nice portratits, then the RAW capability of a decent camera and optical zoom, are really needed to get something decent.

It would be an interesting challenge to do some portraits using a phone camera.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on May 31, 2016, 12:59:16 pm
Samsung Galaxy S5 (my new hand-me-down).

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-m9w7iMoqZzk/V0164BuhQUI/AAAAAAAAHp4/SMuHHS_us9IZGvvb-jWQUnVl2md_A_gQwCCo/s1152/Cows%2Ba.jpg)

It would make a high quality 20x16" print no bother.

Here's a 1920x1080 pixel crop

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b073usAu9DQ/V017aPaMUuI/AAAAAAAAHp8/WEbQfhA7zq4u2v3w_Ru8Ak43EBW21ZovgCCo/s1152/Cows%2B1920x1080%2Bcrop.jpg)

It's a step up in phone camera quality for me.  Dynamic range is a bit limited (or maybe I'm just not used to jpegs any more).  There's no detail in the whites despite it being a fairly overcast day.

Still, forgetting my camera has become a little bit less of an issue.

Processed RAW image from an EOS 100D for comparison.  Lots more detail in the whites & shadows (Though many people prefer the contrasty, slightly-over-the-top  look. RAW gives you that option as well of course.).
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-67C0O_-DFDA/V01-bgd_xbI/AAAAAAAAHqM/ZBMjl3G47g8lmXj76pPWZ2ksSN8gbuRowCCo/s1152/a%2BCows%2B2.jpg)

Worth noting that my Wife's new phone, the Galaxy S7 Edge has RAW capability as well.  I need to play.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on June 05, 2016, 02:18:44 pm
Samsung Galaxy S5

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QLVZbi2Hzcs/V1QleWlVo8I/AAAAAAAAHxU/gVKZtVKwcHguzYWaTf5wyamUkZTWF2PdwCCo/s1152/Orbit%2BSMB%2B2016.jpg)
Crop
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-89kH7C_fI4k/V1QmbCZqXyI/AAAAAAAAHxs/UNwBMFWGneg2FICKFsLVSbluO4aEZDeKQCCo/s1152/Orbit%2BSMB%2B2016.CROP%2B1.jpg)
Crop
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rGou3aHh7Xc/V1QmaXSuFkI/AAAAAAAAHxk/A0Mcdmr7YZIgjeAm68mj26NNnqNGnRCjgCCo/s1018/Orbit%2BSMB%2B2016.CROP%2B2.jpg)
Crop
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nddw-vQlolQ/V1QnzebNRgI/AAAAAAAAHyA/0ph4Uvb0BiwJ56xf2SsdZvwtBQ00CfNyACCo/s1152/Orbit%2BSMB%2B2016.CROP%2B3.jpg)

It's getting pretty remarkable now (though conditions were ideal) that you can crop into a photo from a Phone so much.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Ian H on June 21, 2016, 04:28:03 pm
My aging Xperia.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-YaMNTZBjdCI/V2lcTW6LSUI/AAAAAAAAPW8/pyK0r-cUBlQeFCkwzFflL1mSd8akWsh0gCL0B/w894-h503-no/DSC_1117.JPG)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Ian H on June 21, 2016, 04:30:32 pm
And this little flower.

(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lD8FFF3ORRE/V2ldWWlbSzI/AAAAAAAAPXI/3owKiUeC0dQnhjX7liqsMUocxl8T5tFJwCL0B/w353-h628-no/DSC_1130.JPG)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: noisycrank on June 28, 2016, 03:16:54 pm
Herb Robert (Geranium robertianum) ^ ^ ^
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on July 10, 2016, 06:54:44 pm
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-_7Dd_eHUxZs/V4KLhy5dnpI/AAAAAAAAIOo/7Qg5U6HcxNUhN2lAjmTvnpWeNB_MxvAGACCo/s1152/Dragonfly%2BiPhone%2B5s.jpg)

My Mum's best ever photo.  Taken with her iPhone 5s (which she repeatedly demonstrates she can't use).
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Ruthie on July 13, 2016, 09:10:07 pm
Galaxy Ace 4, simultaneously recording Strava.

(https://c7.staticflickr.com/9/8755/27673564974_61c208abfb_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JaqfJA)After work bike ride 130716 (https://flic.kr/p/JaqfJA) by Ruth Irving (https://www.flickr.com/photos/106826773@N02/), on Flickr

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7313/28290714505_99b1f7fbcf_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/K6XiMK)After work bike ride 130716 (https://flic.kr/p/K6XiMK) by Ruth Irving (https://www.flickr.com/photos/106826773@N02/), on Flickr
I used the Zoom function for this one, as we prickly balls of fear like our personal space and I totally get that.  The loss of definition is striking.

(https://c3.staticflickr.com/8/7031/27673637754_361ff498eb_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/JaqCnq)After work bike ride 130716 (https://flic.kr/p/JaqCnq) by Ruth Irving (https://www.flickr.com/photos/106826773@N02/), on Flickr

Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: pcolbeck on July 14, 2016, 11:04:23 am
Is zoom not pointless on a phone since its a fixed lens. You might just as well take the picture without zoom then crop the result.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Ruthie on July 14, 2016, 11:05:29 am
Is zoom not pointless on a phone since its a fixed lens. You might just as well take the picture without zoom then crop the result.

Well, yes, exactly  ;D
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on July 16, 2016, 07:44:54 pm
Samsung Galaxy S5

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-c6MrMVI_qOw/V4qAc8YpEsI/AAAAAAAAIWE/E9WJoAedjVsLXrla5QUuddYIBtrBmNskACCo/s1152/Lymington%2B2016%2Ba.jpg)

I'd be happy to have a 10x8 of that on the wall (except that I have a similar image, taken with my Canon S120, that knocks spots off it).
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: hellymedic on July 16, 2016, 09:28:14 pm
That is indeed a very pleasing image!
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: T42 on July 17, 2016, 08:34:54 am
That would work well as a metal print.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on July 20, 2016, 12:19:55 pm
Is zoom not pointless on a phone since its a fixed lens. You might just as well take the picture without zoom then crop the result.

Depending on how the phone sensor crops the image you may get better results cropping later from the full-size image.


Better still.... get closer to the Hog.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Cudzoziemiec on August 06, 2016, 08:07:01 pm
These woke me up yesterday morning:
(https://c8.staticflickr.com/9/8323/28731264751_953796fc33_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/KLTf2D)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on August 10, 2016, 10:08:19 am
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/ANdDCoj01aL5saVpmYyEnBe4G0TTemmgHpNIR50Sd3bXNVhYcogpzjrVW86uQINZoKBL9kMkseFVixcmCwwJYoMGyBI_QjOnm4Ka3v1-0SnmXH8LNOohxEz8Ho0GRY-aIYX7Cye6sOciwOyAEHMkHcms1o2rVeK-Xyk6w_xoz2Ba3bUOshvKlAA6QXK5Jtc3tUPn8pAWHs-ZmFVK89uF78xxCTp5UiA5Knlp8xmW5XBx0LwR_kKlHKJvfkdcwKO7pumJ7yKy9RCjQPve20CYZY45XEAQctHSuVxSiW4BE3yKo4v0Kf0QiQdNR6wdasvdmbrVWhxCZw3_yfOAaJoxI2S-gR67bf_RBXrwvnTX6vyI8h_hNTp34HNiunwbpHiGLu5gITsdLh7P-NTCGZaPE75vDGj7-stbW3kCH9gSUQ_VJPUitSB6DCGUqfwUbRjcMPVL-EmX2D1LbIEHwYTzFMyKlRwRlevu8A1BCOAMWBC3KkFiZyMwpD-31EAeoDDmRLBi1QDHXH3jyvRC5u1V1ScTXQi5ZXCsn3eR-ZYhVP1319iXy04SWUWW_XYj9bnSSfiASNIZn4Mcapy_f7gbT7ZFcovW8bM=w1023-h955-no)

Samsung Galaxy S5 (with all sorts of cropping and Google filters).
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on August 10, 2016, 10:34:19 am
Is zoom not pointless on a phone since its a fixed lens. You might just as well take the picture without zoom then crop the result.
Not necessarily. The digital zoom will be happening before conversion to JPEG and the loss of resolution that goes with that, so better to do in camera. You could of course test this theory
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on October 11, 2016, 11:07:00 am
Just seen examples of the iPhone 7 Plus camera(s).

It has 2 cameras mounted next to each other and thus can do all sorts of DoF wizardry.  The way it simulates a shallow depth of field, for portraits and still-life, is pretty astounding.  I have to say I'm really impressed.

Images also seem pin-sharp.  It has optical zoom to an equivalent of 56mm (I think) which is also not such a bad FL for Portraits and should put an end to the dreadful wide-angle Selfie.

So, another nail in the coffin of consumer cameras?  Yes I have to say so.  Phone-cameras (or are they camera-phones?) have killed off the compact camera market and are making inroads into the "Pro-sumer" market as well.

However... it's worth remembering that the iPhone 7 Plus is >£700.  That still buys a serious amount of "real" camera, especially if you buy used.

I suppose that it suggests that phones with twin-cameras, and similar features, will be ubiquitous in 3-4 years time and the big camera manufacturers will be struggling to shift anything but high-end equipment.

It's an amazing technological progression really.  It used to be the Kodak 110 "Instamatic" that democratised photography but now it's the phone, with "DSLR like Quality" (Apple's words).

I still need to go out and test my Wife's Samsung Galaxy S7 "Edge". 
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Oscar's dad on October 11, 2016, 11:12:14 am
A smart phone with a decent camera might well cost the same as a good quality "real" camera but you can do Facebook and make phone calls onna "real" camera  ;D
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on October 11, 2016, 01:43:46 pm
A smart phone with a decent camera might well cost the same as a good quality "real" camera but you can do Facebook and make phone calls onna "real" camera  ;D

True, and that's why the consumer camera market is almost dead.

However... £100 gets you a pretty good Smartphone with a decent camera (Motorola MOTO G) and £200 gets you a bloody good pocket camera. 
That still leaves you £420 for Beer rather than buy an iPhone 7 Plus.

Fairly compelling.

I mean, we all perhaps need to step back and take a breath.  £720 for a phone!  We may be getting carried away.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Oscar's dad on October 11, 2016, 01:54:10 pm
I suppose it's how you value stuff. My iPhone 6s cost over £600 in January and I love it. Super smartphone and amazing camera. Value for money in my book. Once I've had it two years I'll sell it on and upgrade to the latest model.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Kim on October 11, 2016, 06:33:19 pm
I mean, we all perhaps need to step back and take a breath.  £720 for a phone!  We may be getting carried away.

£720 for a pocket supercomputer/tricorder that can take photos, make phone calls, tell you where you are, access the combined knowledge of humanity and play pokemon.

The only reason not to buy one is that a £150 pocket supercomputer can do most of that almost as well.


TBH, we should stop pretending they're phones, and call them 'handhelds' like FOREIGNS and science fiction writers have been doing for decades.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on October 12, 2016, 10:45:18 am

TBH, we should stop pretending they're phones

But I made a phone call on mine last month...or was it the month before?
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on October 17, 2016, 11:40:09 am
Samsung Galaxy S5

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I still can't get my head around the fact that the camera lens is about 2mm in diameter. The level of detail, when you start pixel-peeping, is extraordinary.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on October 19, 2016, 08:57:47 am
Same spot with the new Galaxy S7 Edge

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It deals with details in the shadows better but, in these "ideal" conditions, almost any camera would do a decent job.

I need to test the S7 in more testing conditions.  It can shoot RAW files so I may see what it can do with some difficult backlight shots.

You could get a high quality 16x10" print off either camera though, something you couldn't say about any 110 Instamatic camera (not even the Pentax 110).
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Jaded on October 19, 2016, 11:14:49 pm
(http://www.alfiecat.co.uk/yetacf/IMG_8878.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on November 01, 2016, 11:42:16 pm
Crop from a Samsung Galaxy S5

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Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Ian H on November 02, 2016, 11:29:52 am
Here's one with just the ambient light, using my aging Xperia.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hGfVg-yPQ1A/WBnNSHVqQgI/AAAAAAAARPI/3Ak-a3uXek4BEBYImIsKfAR3MjhOLnLygCJoC/w530-h942-p-rw/DSC_1605.JPG)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Jakob on December 27, 2016, 07:15:23 am
(http://i.imgur.com/Fv55Nvl.jpg)

My favourite hiking trail. 20 meters in from the road and it's like this
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on February 19, 2017, 04:19:00 pm
Very impressed with the close up ability of the S6
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5CbAjMWAAA9RaZ.jpg:large)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Oscar's dad on February 20, 2017, 06:19:07 am
Very impressed with the close up ability of the S6
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5CbAjMWAAA9RaZ.jpg:large)

Yeah but if you look real close you'll see that bee has an iPhone 7 and thinks your S6 is shite.  You should see the close ups you can get with an iPhone7!
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: David Martin on March 19, 2017, 09:58:21 pm
Looking around, and trying to not fall off the trig point I was standing on..

(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2945/33377475702_307a77f9c4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SRshF1)2017-03-19_06-27-13 (https://flic.kr/p/SRshF1) by David Martin (https://www.flickr.com/photos/davidmam/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Salvatore on March 27, 2017, 12:41:39 pm
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2827/33294661020_98ab53ec66_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SJ8QKE)

The Wiltshire Downs near Adbourne yesterday evening. Moto G4 plus.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on March 29, 2017, 06:24:32 pm
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2827/33294661020_98ab53ec66_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/SJ8QKE)

The Wiltshire Downs near Adbourne yesterday evening. Moto G4 plus.
That's really nice.  Would be a nice abstract with all the colours dialled up to 11 perhaps

Just playing... to see if a work by the great artist Salvatore would look nice on the wall of my mediterranean villa (if I had a Villa).

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I REALLY like it btw.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on June 12, 2017, 12:25:06 am
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge.  Through window of a moving car, by my wife.
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It's from a JPG despite it having RAW capability.  There's an amazing dynamic range in there considering it's a jpg....and a phone!




Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on August 01, 2017, 03:43:52 pm
I just inherited my Wife's Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge!!!

I haven't been that bothered by which phone I own before.  For the last five years I've always had one that was Ok in "an emergency".  Lately they have clearly stepped up the game.

Now though I'm quite excited.  I can shoot in RAW at 12Mp and edit in Lightroom.  Testing it tonight on an evening walk.

Edit.  It's a really impressive camera.  RAW lets me dig out an image from a poorly lit scene..

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Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andyoxon on August 02, 2017, 11:46:36 am
Good pics.  Since getting a MotoG5 I've used the phone more than my Lumix LX3.  This is partly due to convenience (smaller/double click power button and camera opens immediately), but mainly because the phone camera (12MP) is consistently pretty decent, and seems to cope well with tricky lighting owing to HDR functionality (On, Off, Auto) etc.  Macro is good, but I find I need to be careful with the autofocus.

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Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on August 18, 2017, 12:18:32 pm
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge.

I've stopped carrying my Canon S120 so much since I got this phone.

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Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: T42 on August 18, 2017, 12:50:34 pm
Great pic. My Moto 3G does 9.7 Mp but Raw? Forget it.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on September 18, 2017, 10:23:26 am
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4432/37300851895_8a3e7d7148_h.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YQ9BJ8)

Update on the Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge.

I went to Mottisfont yesterday in my Motorhome.  I had my DSLR and a very nice Canon S120 Compact (I'd call it a Pro-level pocket camera).  I took neither with me for the walk round Mottisfont.
I'm perfectly happy to use the phone for my "Snaps" now.

When you consider that the lens is about 3mm in diameter I think it's a modern miracle how much detail and "range" it can capture.  Very, very, impressed with it.

Note.  Image above was RAW and edited in a RAW editor + Photoshop.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Oscar's dad on September 18, 2017, 10:32:38 am
Nice one LEE.

I have a DSLR which I have never really bothered to master and its a pain to lug about.  I'm only a snapper really but do sometimes use the filters built into my iPhone 7's photo capability or I use Instagram filters.  I see no need to use a "proper" camera when I can produce photos like this...

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4390/36902545790_0d059942cf_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YdXccu)

Chaumont Chateau, Loire Valley, French France.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on September 18, 2017, 10:51:46 am
My benchmark for "Snapper" is the '60/'70s Olympus Trip camera.  It was the 35mm camera you'd take out if you couldn't be bothered carrying an SLR and would give you perfectly acceptable results.

I think we're at the point where phone-cameras have reached/exceeded that benchmark.  I certainly can't think of a single reason I'd take an Olympus Trip over my phone now.  What I may do is try a bit of "gritty Street Photography" (The natural home of the Olympus Trip....and ..gulp...Leicas) and see how that looks using my phone.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Oscar's dad on September 18, 2017, 11:01:34 am
I remember the Olympus Trip!  I'm sure my Dad had one or something similar.

The other great thing about camera phones is how easy they make it to share photos which is something i love doing.  And I love being able to look back on my photos as they are all associated with great memories.  If have 1896 on my phone going back to February 2014.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Ham on September 18, 2017, 11:17:41 am
[snip]
I went to Mottisfont yesterday in my Motorhome. 

On a slight alternative path - did you see the Kafe Fassett exhibition?
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on September 18, 2017, 12:11:13 pm
[snip]
I went to Mottisfont yesterday in my Motorhome. 

On a slight alternative path - did you see the Kafe Fassett exhibition?
Embarrassed to say that we didn't check it out.  It was crammed with biddies sheltering from showers.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on September 19, 2017, 01:50:49 pm
At the risk of comments about "Get a shave" (I work at home, nobody sees me, OK?)

Here's a selfie (trying not to look like a selfie) portrait using the S7 Edge.  It's in quite low light and "grainy" but I'd be happy to use it for portraits of others at a push.

What you need to remember is the wide-angle lens distorts subjects close-up.  Better to move away slightly, longer than arms length, and crop in later.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4432/37324304095_7a63dfbf7d_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/YSdPfp)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: T42 on September 19, 2017, 03:05:03 pm
I remember the Olympus Trip!  I'm sure my Dad had one or something similar.

I believe we have one in our collection.  Definitely got the wee half-frame Pen E.

Must finish documenting that lot. I kinda hit a lull in 2002.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on June 12, 2018, 08:06:23 pm
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1759/41859336895_caf022171f_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26LY3v6)

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1745/41859336155_2fb8b87e53_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26LY3hk)

One of the above is taken on my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge and one taken on my Canon S120 "Compact" (At the time a very high-end compact, RRP was £499 at launch).

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Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Kim on June 12, 2018, 08:14:24 pm
On the basis that a fondleslab is basically just a giant phone, I'll put this one here:

(http://www.ductilebiscuit.net/gallery_albums/richforrest_50th/2018_06_10_22_29_06.sized.jpg)

Samsung Galaxy Tab S2.  A camera on a tablet is a lot less useful than one on a phone, but I'm repeatedly amazed at how good this one can be in low light.  It takes respectably decent snaps in normal indoor lighting conditions.  This one's well past the noise limit, but given the subject matter, it's still a pleasing photo[1].

I doubt my phone (2nd gen MotoG that refuses to die) would manage to see more than the brighter fire-lit surfaces and some of the ground bottom-left.


[1] Apart from the Pot Noodle, obviously :)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Oscar's dad on June 12, 2018, 09:04:08 pm
I never thought phones would get to this point

We're in the Alps right now.  I have two cameras with me, an iPhone 7, its taking beautiful stills, I've even used it for a bit of video.  I also have a GoPro Hero5 Black, which is producing some superb video from a mount attached to the accessory T-bar on the front of my Surly.  Yes, I know the GoPro isn't a phone camera, but my point is its amazing what you can get out of kit that's relatively inexpensive.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: ElyDave on June 15, 2018, 10:12:14 am
(https://i.imgur.com/wCkss5X.jpg)

Tromso airport last November around 2pm, Iphone 5S

Last December, similar light levels in Sweden with my Lumix TZ55.  I use the Lumix for work.

(https://i.imgur.com/sffGrtL.jpg)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: nicknack on June 15, 2018, 10:32:00 am
(https://i.imgur.com/wCkss5X.jpg)

Tromso airport last November around 2pm, Iphone 5S

Not a phone camera (Nikon F, Ektachrome) but thanks for posting that. I wasn't exactly sure which airport this was (July 1974)


(https://images2.imgbox.com/2b/ba/Fk6Jl5jU_o.jpg) (http://imgbox.com/Fk6Jl5jU)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: ElyDave on June 15, 2018, 12:32:38 pm
Off out to the rigs, or just on holiday?
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: nicknack on June 15, 2018, 01:10:16 pm
Geologising. Tromso was a stop on the way to Spitsbergen from Oslo (in that airplane). We picked up a boat in Tromso and spent the next month living on it.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on June 15, 2018, 03:21:20 pm
Hope you don't mind.  I was seeing what was left in that photo and how recoverable it was.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/888/42766548682_18d6c89d32_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28a8JXC) (https://flic.kr/p/28a8JXC)

Another advantage of digital photography is that they don't deteriorate (They are just subject to total catastrophic loss en-masse).
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Kim on June 15, 2018, 03:28:33 pm
Another advantage of digital photography is that they don't deteriorate (They are just subject to total catastrophic loss en-masse).

I used to think that, but then I saw the sort of thing my mother-in-law gets up to with digital images.

Ob-xkcd:

(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/digital_data.png) (https://xkcd.com/1683/)


I reckon it's easier to prevent catastrophic loss of digital data than the canonical shoebox full of negatives, it's just that most people don't think it'll happen to them so can't be arsed.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: nicknack on June 15, 2018, 04:11:22 pm
Hope you don't mind.  I was seeing what was left in that photo and how recoverable it was.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/888/42766548682_18d6c89d32_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28a8JXC) (https://flic.kr/p/28a8JXC)

Don't mind at all. Cheers!
I have many old slides that could do with a similar treatment. One day I might get round to it.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on June 16, 2018, 08:19:24 pm
Hope you don't mind.  I was seeing what was left in that photo and how recoverable it was.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/888/42766548682_18d6c89d32_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/28a8JXC) (https://flic.kr/p/28a8JXC)

Don't mind at all. Cheers!
I have many old slides that could do with a similar treatment. One day I might get round to it.

If you project slides onto a big white wall you can prepare your camera to save lots of time.  Take a custom white balance, dial in some manual picture profile settings ..etc (so yo udon' thave to do it al lin Photoshop)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: nicknack on June 16, 2018, 10:02:17 pm
Ah, but that would require the purchase of a projector. I used a light box for the one I posted.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andytheflyer on June 27, 2018, 07:29:51 am
Geologising. Tromso was a stop on the way to Spitsbergen from Oslo (in that airplane). We picked up a boat in Tromso and spent the next month living on it.

Ah!  Another saxophone-playing geoscientist?
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: nicknack on June 27, 2018, 08:44:21 am
Geologising. Tromso was a stop on the way to Spitsbergen from Oslo (in that airplane). We picked up a boat in Tromso and spent the next month living on it.

Ah!  Another saxophone-playing geoscientist?
I was then, briefly. Now I'm just saxophone playing.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: andytheflyer on June 27, 2018, 09:42:19 am
Geologising. Tromso was a stop on the way to Spitsbergen from Oslo (in that airplane). We picked up a boat in Tromso and spent the next month living on it.

Ah!  Another saxophone-playing geoscientist?
I was then, briefly. Now I'm just saxophone playing.

I spent the early years of my career geologising on boats - but for engineering studies, not petroleum.  But that was 40 years before I launched into learning to play the sax. Good fun though, chucking side scans, boomers, maggies and various bottom samplers off the arse end of workboats, and living on Dutch coffee.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on August 01, 2018, 05:36:34 pm
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge.  I could have done a better job with my DSLR but not in the 10 seconds it took to take this photo with my phone.  It would have taken much effort in Photoshop to do this with my camera.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/833/41804089210_d258d06db4_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/26G5ThN)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: LEE on August 29, 2018, 02:18:39 pm
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge + Snapseed editor.  I don't regret not having my "good" camera with me at all.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1879/44343190641_24406b0e52_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aysrFF)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: hellymedic on August 29, 2018, 03:36:49 pm
Lovely, classical composition!
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: woollypigs on August 29, 2018, 04:53:38 pm
Another advantage of digital photography is that they don't deteriorate (They are just subject to total catastrophic loss en-masse).

I used to think that, but then I saw the sort of thing my mother-in-law gets up to with digital images.

Ob-xkcd:

(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/digital_data.png) (https://xkcd.com/1683/)


I reckon it's easier to prevent catastrophic loss of digital data than the canonical shoebox full of negatives, it's just that most people don't think it'll happen to them so can't be arsed.
I learned the hard way, so now got my photos in the cloud, on 2-3 hard disk in house and one off site.

I think the xkcd is good but missed out the step where the only way you can send photos was to put them into a word.doc - shudders.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Kim on August 30, 2018, 09:23:00 am
I think the xkcd is good but missed out the step where the only way you can send photos was to put them into a word.doc - shudders.

They covered that one ages ago:

(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/workaround.png) (https://xkcd.com/763/)
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: T42 on August 30, 2018, 11:12:57 am
Sod it.  I can't look at one xkcd cartoon without looking at a dozen.

I wonder if they've done one about that.
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: Torslanda on August 30, 2018, 11:17:07 am
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge + Snapseed editor.  I don't regret not having my "good" camera with me at all.

(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1879/44343190641_24406b0e52_k.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2aysrFF)

You missed out the haywain...  ;D
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: T42 on August 30, 2018, 12:44:51 pm
Hay Wayne, don't make it bad
Take a sad song and make it better...


IGMC
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: hellymedic on August 30, 2018, 01:28:52 pm
Need a Constable to police bad jokes...
Title: Re: Camera-Phone Photos
Post by: jsabine on August 31, 2018, 02:34:53 am
There's a sting in some of your comments