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Title: Wander Wye
Post by: Laid Back Rich on April 24, 2018, 06:28:29 pm
Our ride is full, because of the limited space at our overnight control.

AUK members who don't intend to use our hall (either arrange their own overnight accommodation or plan to ride through the night) can still enter the ride: simply pay £19 by PayPal to me at laidbackaroundtheworld@gmail.com and tell me your AUK membership number in the PayPal notes to seller, and I will add you to the start list.

This could be a useful forum to hook up with others for room sharing, e.g. at the Severn View Travelodge.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Ajax Bay on May 20, 2018, 05:04:31 pm
Thanks, Rich.
Another option is to stop short (of Chepstow) so arriving at a 'reasonable' time - the Star Bunkhouse at Bwlch (an info control at 310km) has space that evening, at present. http://www.starbunkhouse.com/
But will one be 'tired enough'?
Oh, and there's a Fish and Chip shop in Talgarth (circa 300km), attached to the Castle Hotel, directly opposite the "297.0 L@T $ Llangorse" (open 5-9pm)
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Wycombewheeler on May 20, 2018, 05:20:34 pm
Thanks, Rich.
Another option is to stop short (of Chepstow) so arriving at a 'reasonable' time - the Star Bunkhouse at Bwlch (an info control at 310km) has space that evening, at present. http://www.starbunkhouse.com/
But will one be 'tired enough'? The pub next door does meals.
Oh and there's a Fish and Chip shop in Talgarth (circa 300km), attache to the Castle Hotel, directly opposite the "L at T" (open 5-9pm)

I think 310km is too early to stop, you'll be out of time at any control before 450km unless you set off way before dawn.

I think the ideal distance is about 360km makes day 2 easier and gives reasonable amount of time to make subsequent controls.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Whitedown Man on May 20, 2018, 06:31:48 pm
There are early birds and night owls. Riding long into the night with a post-dawn re-start suits some. Getting your head down at 11pm and restarting at 4am suits others. YMMV.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: mattc on May 20, 2018, 06:55:41 pm
I don't see any problem with a pre-dawn start. (Sunrise can be one of the Great Natural Wonders of Audax :) )

But I'd always want to "kick a bigger hole" in the 600km than 310 before kipping, if possible. Still, better than no bed at all!
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Whitedown Man on May 20, 2018, 07:04:53 pm
I don't see any problem with a pre-dawn start. (Sunrise can be one of the Great Natural Wonders of Audax :) )

But I'd always want to "kick a bigger hole" in the 600km than 310 before kipping, if possible. Still, better than no bed at all!

No greater (cycling) pleasure than riding eastwards as the sun rises into a clear sky
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: halhorner on May 20, 2018, 07:43:26 pm
Following this with interest. I'm planning to attempt my first 600 (The Buzzard) this summer and was wondering about sleep strategies. All received Wisdom I've had so far counsels aiming to get 350+ km in the bag before stopping for a sleep, but on my first 400 (LWL earlier this month) I noticed massive diminishing returns from about 320km to the end. So toying with idea of a 3-4 hr sleep stop at Exeter (half way) in hope that id recover enough to keep up similar pace on day 2. Bad idea?
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Whitedown Man on May 20, 2018, 08:25:59 pm
I’ve ridden The Buzzard twice, both times sleeping at the Travelodge at Exeter services and breakfasting at the service station before re-starting. It definitely worked for me, but YMMV.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Wycombewheeler on May 20, 2018, 09:45:54 pm
I don't see any problem with a pre-dawn start. (Sunrise can be one of the Great Natural Wonders of Audax :) )

But I'd always want to "kick a bigger hole" in the 600km than 310 before kipping, if possible. Still, better than no bed at all!

No greater (cycling) pleasure than riding eastwards as the sun rises into a clear sky

Maybe, I'd certainly rather start at 4 than carry on past midnight. But I'd still prefer to ride all in daylight if possible.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Ajax Bay on May 21, 2018, 12:21:05 am
Thanks, Rich.
Another option is to stop short (of Chepstow) so arriving at a 'reasonable' time [eg] Bwlch (an info control at 310km)
I think 310km is too early to stop, you'll be out of time at any control before 450km unless you set off way before dawn.
I think the ideal distance is about 360km makes day 2 easier and gives reasonable amount of time to make subsequent controls.
I agree it'd be good to crack on to Chepstow (and Rich has designed it so that the main entry can sleep at Bulwark). But for those 'johnny come latelies' without that sleep stop option, Aust is that bit further and would probably be after midnight depending on how things go. I guess the backpackers hostel in Chepstow is an option but not sure how they are with a midnight arrival.
Sunrise is at 04:31 and first light will be an hour earlier than that, in benign weather. Chepstow at 368km at 15kph has an 'out of time' time of about 06:30. I'd plan to get 5 hours + sleep, be away by first light from Bwlch and have breakfast in Chepstow.
On the BCM last year I stopped short (at 340k at 10pm) slept and was on the road by 5 (sunrise) and at King's (374km) by 6:20. Worked for me.
With regard to 'Great Natural Wonders of Audax' I will treasure last year's experience of leaving the YH/optional control in Alston (after a great night's sleep) and hitting the top of Yad Moss dead on sunrise.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: paulworthington53 on May 21, 2018, 08:39:17 am
For what it's worth, on both my 2 600s I've started at 6/7am, ridden till around 2- 3am (which means 375-400km ish) and been back on the road for 7/8am. Both seemed to work well in terms of getting enough recovery for the physical efforts needed on day 2.
Of course, the quality of sleep matters enormously. On my second 600 I slept in a proper bed, was able to have a soak in a hot bath and had all the food I wanted all laid out, as well as fresh kit and decent coffee.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: TigaSefi on June 04, 2018, 09:36:09 pm
Hi,

Just familiarising myself with the distance to Chepstow for my sleeping bag and mat sleep. I was wondering with the minimum faffage of an hour for lunch - full english etc - and pee/number 2 stops totaling no more than 30 mins of faffing with that hopefully, what time i should arrive assuming i am doing 14mph average. 17 hours put me conservatively around 1am ?

If so, I would need to leave 6am to make it back in time ?
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Ajax Bay on June 05, 2018, 12:24:12 pm
Just familiarising myself with the distance to Chepstow for my sleeping bag and mat sleep. I was wondering with the minimum faffage of an hour for lunch - full english etc - and pee/number 2 stops totaling no more than 30 mins of faffing with that hopefully, what time i should arrive assuming i am doing 14mph average. 17 hours put me conservatively around 1am ?

If so, I would need to leave 6am to make it back in time ?
Chepstow is 368k. 90 minutes of stops in total is, I suspect, in the first decile of the stopping spectrum. Are you asking someone to do your math for you? 14mph is 22.5kph. HTH
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: TigaSefi on June 05, 2018, 01:18:41 pm
Just familiarising myself with the distance to Chepstow for my sleeping bag and mat sleep. I was wondering with the minimum faffage of an hour for lunch - full english etc - and pee/number 2 stops totaling no more than 30 mins of faffing with that hopefully, what time i should arrive assuming i am doing 14mph average. 17 hours put me conservatively around 1am ?

If so, I would need to leave 6am to make it back in time ?
Chepstow is 368k. 90 minutes of stops in total is, I suspect, in the first decile of the stopping spectrum. Are you asking someone to do your math for you? 14mph is 22.5kph. HTH

looks like I am bang on :)
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Ajax Bay on June 07, 2018, 12:46:30 pm
"Chepstow – the overnight stop is in a community hall . . . We’ll have dinner and/or breakfast ready for you here."
Having read the rider notes (extract above) please can Rich share  roughly what sort of time will the community centre close and bags needed to be handed back in (for those who've used the bag drop)? At 367k, the control in theory 'closes' at 0628 on my reckoning (@15kph) but maybe it's 24 minutes earlier (given the distance is 610k and the required speed is therefore 15.25kph).
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: iddu on June 07, 2018, 03:56:30 pm
Thanks, Rich.
Another option is to stop short (of Chepstow) so arriving at a 'reasonable' time - the Star Bunkhouse at Bwlch (an info control at 310km) has space that evening, at present. http://www.starbunkhouse.com/
But will one be 'tired enough'? The pub next door does meals.
Oh and there's a Fish and Chip shop in Talgarth (circa 300km), attache to the Castle Hotel, directly opposite the "L at T" (open 5-9pm)

I think 310km is too early to stop, you'll be out of time at any control before 450km unless you set off way before dawn.

I think the ideal distance is about 360km makes day 2 easier and gives reasonable amount of time to make subsequent controls.

Assuming the route still goes via Abergaveny there's "Black Sheep Backpackers", https://www.greatwesternabergavenny.com/, at about 330Km in...
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: paulworthington53 on June 07, 2018, 07:08:45 pm
Using the control times calculator on aukweb, the control opening/closing times are:

Control 1 Watlington   73km    08:26  10:52       
Control 2 Stow            142km    10:44   15:28       
Control 3  Worcester  197km    12:34     19:08       
Control 4 Hay              284km    15:28     00:56
Control 5 Chepstow   367km    18:14     06:28
Control 6 Pewsey      455km    21:10      12:20       
Control 7 Hindhead  549km    00:18  18:36       
Control 8 Raynes Park 610km    02:20  22:00   

You can arrive at Chepstow before 0628 (leave whenever you want) but you gotta get to Pewsey by 1220. 6 hours to do 89km...

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: TigaSefi on June 07, 2018, 09:00:28 pm
Thanks for the times!
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Ajax Bay on June 07, 2018, 10:42:18 pm
Using the control times calculator on aukweb, the control opening/closing times are:
. . .
You can arrive at Chepstow before 0628 (leave whenever you want) but you gotta get to Pewsey by 1220. 6 hours to do 89km...
Hope this helps.
"Leave whenever you want" (from Chepstow)
Well not quite: the organisers will be keen to close up the community centre. That's why I'm asking the question (as I am a 'late entry' and shall not be sleeping there).
I also note that those times imply a 18kph minimum speed for the last leg back to Raynes Park (because this is a BRM and the maximum time allowed is 600/15 hours).
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: paulworthington53 on June 08, 2018, 07:20:45 am
If you're not sleeping at Chepstow, then as long as you control there by 6.28 and make the next control before 12.20, you'll be fine.

Sure, the controllers at Chepstow will want to clear up and head back to London but I would think they won't eject you at 6.28, you'd have a bit of time to gather yourself beforehand.

The minimum speed for the whole ride is 15kph so you get 40 hours to ride the distance including the "extra" 10km.

Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Laid Back Rich on June 11, 2018, 09:37:13 am
Sorry I have not been keeping up with this thread. I did not get the email telling me that there were new messages.
Three of us did the helpers ride this w/e, this is how it went for me:

https://www.strava.com/activities/1631264306

I will update the route sheet and rider notes and hopefully email them out later today to all riders.
As for the Chepstow control, we'll be there clearing up for at least an hour after the control officially closes at 06:28.

Suggest that riders wait for the email update then if there are remaining questions either post them here or email me direct, OK?
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: PhilB on June 11, 2018, 01:06:49 pm
I'm arriving at London Waterloo at 7.30pm on Friday
How easy/sensible is it to cycle the 17Km to Raynes Park?
Or would I be more sensible splashing out £5.40 and taking a 20 minute train ride?
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Pete Mas on June 11, 2018, 01:59:54 pm
I'm arriving at London Waterloo at 7.30pm on Friday
How easy/sensible is it to cycle the 17Km to Raynes Park?
Or would I be more sensible splashing out £5.40 and taking a 20 minute train ride?

No problem to cycle if you wish. Fridays are generally quieter on the roads and Cycle Superhighway 8 goes under Waterloo Bridge. Check out the route onwards via Lots Road, Chelsea Harbour, Putney riverside, Richmond Park (Roehampton Gate to Ladderstile Gate, and onwards to Raynes Park) (nice to stretch the legs with a complete circuit of the park if evening weather ok).
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: PhilB on June 12, 2018, 01:51:17 am
I'm arriving at London Waterloo at 7.30pm on Friday
How easy/sensible is it to cycle the 17Km to Raynes Park?
Or would I be more sensible splashing out £5.40 and taking a 20 minute train ride?

No problem to cycle if you wish. Fridays are generally quieter on the roads and Cycle Superhighway 8 goes under Waterloo Bridge. Check out the route onwards via Lots Road, Chelsea Harbour, Putney riverside, Richmond Park (Roehampton Gate to Ladderstile Gate, and onwards to Raynes Park) (nice to stretch the legs with a complete circuit of the park if evening weather ok).

Thanks, that's really helpful
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: TigaSefi on June 16, 2018, 05:15:47 pm
A cracked frame in Pershore ended my interest in this rather good ride! I am more annoyed that I’ve only done 114 miles than the full distance. Will hopefully be back next year!
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Wycombewheeler on June 16, 2018, 08:44:39 pm
Impressive turnout it Seems, saw (and passed) large numbers going from Marlow to freith while I was on the club run. And a few more full value riders as I was passing through Darlington in the opposite direction later on.

Hope the weather stays good for every one.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Laid Back Rich on June 16, 2018, 09:26:34 pm
62 on the road. First into Chepstow at 9pm. 370 km in 15 hours. Apparently a little breezy out there. Ride safe all.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Whitedown Man on June 18, 2018, 08:18:26 am
A great ride - huge thanks to everyone involved in organising and helping. Great route, excellent controls well-spaced and a BBQ at the end too. I particularly appreciated a great second breakfast at The Applecart Cafe in Pewsey.  Even the weather was as close to perfect as it gets for a 600.

My slowest ever 600 by some way though, with Day Two taking me an hour longer than my 2016 BCM Day Two time (after adjusting for distance). Was Day Two deceptively difficult, or am I just getting old and slow?
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: whosatthewheel on June 18, 2018, 08:29:25 am
A great ride - huge thanks to everyone involved in organising and helping. Great route, excellent controls well-spaced and a BBQ at the end too. I particularly appreciated a great second breakfast at The Applecart Cafe in Pewsey.  Even the weather was as close to perfect as it gets for a 600.

My slowest ever 600 by some way though, with Day Two taking me an hour longer than my 2016 BCM Day Two time (after adjusting for distance). Was Day Two deceptively difficult, or am I just getting old and slow?

I looked at the route, which broadly speaking is an enlarged version of LWL... it goes a bit further west and a bit further south. Either way, I found the return leg of LWL very hard, so I am not surprised this is hard too, seeing as you pass through the Downs
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Manotea on June 18, 2018, 08:49:28 am
It occurs to me that the Wheelers routes are organised by a group of very strong riders... not that I'm saying you aren't... :)
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: iddu on June 18, 2018, 01:52:46 pm
Gutted - after so much effort and timed faffage can't believe I didn't get Lanterne Rouge! ;D
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Laid Back Rich on June 18, 2018, 02:23:45 pm
We're getting one or two comments that this may have been a tough ride, the best so far: "It was definitely the toughest I’ve done, prior to this it was the Porker 400 and that’s saying something".  I'll take that as a compliment to be passed onto the route master, but not sure I agree with it myself.

We had an 89% finishing rate - only 7 DNFs out of 62 starters. I'll be making enquiries but I know at least two of them were not related to the toughness of the course.  We already have some ideas for route improvements for next year, and we're open to suggestions.

cheers
LBR
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: paulworthington53 on June 18, 2018, 03:10:37 pm
Great ride, great route. Many thanks to Rich and his team for the excellent support.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Sezdavies on June 18, 2018, 04:11:43 pm
Thanks so much to all the team for this. Only my second 600km and I found it tough - but I seem to remember after bcm last year I said never again so I can’t really comment on how tough it actually was! The route sheets were great - we only missed a couple of turns and that was our stupidity!  If you could have turned off the blooming wind it would have been easier I am sure!

How many females made it around ? I only saw one other on my way round so not sure there were many of us!

And I will never complain about my husbands snoring again - there were some great efforts in the scout hut at Chepstow on Saturday night! 😉
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Rich XAB on June 18, 2018, 05:35:06 pm
Many thanks to LBR and the KW crew for their wonderful efforts. I found it tough but an interesting route, nevertheless. Gutted that I couldn't mange something from the BBQ at the end. Had a lovely cuppa made for me instead.

Rich
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: αdαmsκι on June 18, 2018, 07:09:55 pm
How many females made it around ? I only saw one other on my way round so not sure there were many of us!

I know Thing2 was riding and would have been easy to spot as she was on a tandem.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Ajax Bay on June 18, 2018, 07:22:10 pm
And the Maidenhead lady who got in at about 7pm.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: TigaSefi on June 18, 2018, 07:26:50 pm
And the Maidenhead lady who got in at about 7pm.

That the same one as above.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Neil C on June 18, 2018, 07:50:26 pm
Gutted - after so much effort and timed faffage can't believe I didn't get Lanterne Rouge! ;D

After so much effort and minimum faffage I can't believe I did get Lanterne Rouge!  :)

Thanks to all the Kingston Wheelers Team for a great event and wonderful support.

I was happy with my speed to Worcester, despite the wind, but from then on it became quite a slog. Chepstow was a welcome oasis and I had about two and half hours in a sleeping bag (but a lot less sleep). The first few miles from Chepstow felt ok but then the legs started feeling lacking in energy and the hills kept on coming. I had to have an hour's break at Pewsey to recover but was having trouble with feeding.

I left Pewsey about forty minutes after the cut-off but thought I would have no trouble making that up by Hindhead. The hills made that difficult and I got there with ten minutes to spare. Luckily I was then on familiar territory and so could ride the rest of the way without reference to the routesheet or Garmin.

The BBQ was still going when I reached arrivee with less than ten minutes to spare.

That's my first SR series done - all with KW rides.

Rowlands RAAAmble next.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: kegere on June 18, 2018, 08:26:40 pm
Thanks to Rich and all the others from KW for another superb event, the support at Chepstow and the end was most welcome, I loved the stew and BBQ!

I was riding slowly on the Chepstow to Pewsey section, the gradient perfectly aligned to where I'm always slow against other Audax riders, however there was no issue finishing in the time window, despite a snooze before driving I think I was asleep at home when the final control closed.

I saw at least 4 ladies on the ride, although Thing2 only at start / finish (they were ahead of me all the time) and the other two passed me for the last time soon after Stow-on-the-Wold, all far to quick for me.

As it is my first 600 I've no strong opinion on whether it is easier / harder than others, certainly it would have been much more pleasant without the strong Saturday headwinds  ::-) I guess I need to ride it next year to help me decide. Certainly the pre-warning about hills on the way into Chepstow was welcome.

Lesson learnt: Those glitches in the gradient data on ridewithgps were actually real - having an x-axis of 600km means steep hills show up as a single pixel, in the future I will carefully examine the gradients by zooming in on 300+km routes.


Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Sezdavies on June 18, 2018, 09:46:04 pm
And the Maidenhead lady who got in at about 7pm.
That was me! And I saw the lady on the tandem. So about 4 of us - less than 10%. I think that means I am totally mad!
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: marcusjb on June 18, 2018, 10:27:50 pm
(I am still alive! (In case anyone was wondering))

Massive thanks to all the KW Krew for a fantastic event; superb organisation and TLC with a great route that joined up a few familiar bits of the world for me.

Riding more than 50% of my total 2018 mileage so far in a weekend was always going to be a bit tough, but this audaxing lark is all in the head and, well, I’m bloody minded enough to overcome my lack of fitness. Did hurt a bit though. Good motivation to actually try and ride my bikes over winter this year and get back in shape for the French ride.

Rather blowy and a few bits of drizzly rain (got heavier at Hindshead), but overall quite pleasant. A good mix of fast sections with some harder sections (the run to Pewsey felt very spikey and quite hard work, and the less said about the last hill before Chepstow the better - I was battered and dozey and certainly that was my dark patch of the event. I had to take the bike for a little walk as my motivation dwindled temporarily).

Thanks again to everyone involved. See you all on the road hopefully rather sooner than my rather long absence from the game.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Thing2 on June 19, 2018, 06:46:19 am
And the Maidenhead lady who got in at about 7pm.
That was me! And I saw the lady on the tandem. So about 4 of us - less than 10%. I think that means I am totally mad!
While I am pretty certain I am mad, you could always choose to be differently normal instead.  :)
There are a lot more women riding 200's now compared to when I started a decade ago, which is great to see. Over time, the proportion of them to riding the longer distances will hopefully increase too.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: dave d on June 19, 2018, 11:20:13 am
Many thanks to all the KW crew for organising a great and challenging ride.

The headwinds on Saturday afternoon were a drag (but at least they were expected).  I was surprised how often we also seemed to face the wind on Sunday, but it was coming from the south and a look at the map reminds me we were going south as much as east.  Apart from the wind, the weather was just about right with only light rain on Sunday morning and being cooler than some recent days.  Having two near 90km hilly sections back to back on Sunday was really tough going and, in retrospect, it would have been better if we had broken that down into smaller sections somehow.  Indeed I took out of the ride the thoughts that it would have been easier with a bit more preparation both in terms of more winter riding and more investigating the route beforehand. 

Some pics here:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/52974990@N08/albums/72157697585751694
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: citoyen on June 19, 2018, 12:25:53 pm
We already have some ideas for route improvements for next year, and we're open to suggestions.

Don't know about that but this ride is definitely on my radar for next year. Have a feeling I'll need to get my entry in early, with it being a PBP year.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: citoyen on June 19, 2018, 01:05:50 pm
(I am still alive! (In case anyone was wondering))

Funnily enough, I was wondering only the other day what had become of you - prompted by something I read in Arrivée.

Quote
Riding more than 50% of my total 2018 mileage so far in a weekend was always going to be a bit tough, but this audaxing lark is all in the head and, well, I’m bloody minded enough to overcome my lack of fitness.

I can relate to this, having done a total of less than 800km this year before taking on the West Highlands 1000 a few weeks ago. Training is overrated.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: whosatthewheel on June 19, 2018, 01:26:01 pm
Training is overrated.

Luckily I enjoy riding my bike, otherwise you are right... the improvement per mile of so called "training" is pathetic and not worth bothering
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: thing1 on June 19, 2018, 01:28:03 pm
Why, what a wonderful wander! Great way to pass a weekend :)

It could always be a gamble doing a long ride like this on its first running, but overall I thought it a fantastic route. The FAST escape out of London was very appreciated. Lovely riding over the cotswolds as always. We saw a lot of rain "over on the next hill" both days but never got a soaking, just the odd brief shower blown in on us (and plenty of road water in places). The continuous lumpiness through Worcester right to Hay were bit of a surprise (my fault for not reviewing the profile before hand... I rarely do) but this did mean the worst of the headwind I was bracing for never fully materialized for us due to hill shelter.
The ride from Hay to Raglan was perhaps my favourite part. Fantastic taster of riding the welsh roads in quiet dusky landscapes, whetting the appetite and leaving me wanting more Cymru. And then the brutal 10mile into Chepstow making me never want to go to those lands again ;-)
Booking a travelodge bed "just in case" was one of my better ideas, really happy to have got a few good hours shut eye before the ordeal of the second day.
The lumpy start to day 2 certainly made for a tough opener but I actually found the long second stage culminating in that never ending drag into Hindhead was probably a low point for me... probably didn't eat enough through that stage (and was done digesting a wonderful and fast breakfast from Pewsey). Fantastic to see the punch bowl from above .. never done that before, although the descent was not as "tandem exhilarating" as the profile suggests due to being on a shared pathway. By the time we got to Combe Lane I was really relishing the climb, as it's a known-entity and last big goal of the ride... with that out the way it's plain sailing back to HQ.

Great BBQ to finish it all off. Would have stayed around to see more faces, but Thing2 was in a hurry to get home and showered so we could pop out for a cheeky pint, which we managed. A guy in the pub was astonished to hear we walked 35mins to the pub, so I didn't dare mention what else we'd been up to just before that....!

Congrats on a great Kingston Wheelers SR series. So fortunate to have this right on our doorstep.


Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Lee Velo on June 21, 2018, 04:43:41 pm
I was one of the DNF's making it as far as Chepstow before throwing in the towel and catching a train home from Bristol.

The route was tough, however I was fine pretty much up to the halfway point. Unfortunately I'd had one hell of a week at work on night shifts so suffered from an incorrect body clock and no real sleep the day/night before the event.

Dropped into Abergaveny and tried to eat some food at the Esso and just felt low/rough and couldn't eat much. The leg into Chepstow (including THAT hill) just wiped me out and pedalling just burned my stomach. I didn't feel too well at Chepstow and convinced myself I didn't have the energy to get back. After some sleep and attempting to eat, I threw in the towel and struggled into Bristol and jumped on the train.

Gutted I didn't complete, but no complaints about the route or being looked after by Rich. I've completed two 600's and LEL and this was tougher by far. Lesson learned about sleep preparation!
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: kiex on June 22, 2018, 11:43:15 am
Already replied by email to Rich, but will add here as well.

I was one of the other DNFs. I had completed my first 400 a month before on Dawntsey Dawdle and this was going to be my first 600.

Firstly, I think Rich and team are excellent organisers. The start/finish and Chepstow controls were welcoming, stocked up with everything you could want and the volunteers have made me feel looked after when I get off the bike in zombie mode.
The route was really nice. Leaving London seemed quick and easy rather than the usual drag out to the countryside. Passing so many AONB's in one ride is also very enjoyable and a visual distractions from the difficulty.

The strong headwinds that day probably made the route feel harder than it actually is. At some point I did wonder how so much climbing didn't qualify for AAA points though. The tough sections were well spread out over the route so it felt you could recover from each one.

Being my first 600 my pacing was probably too fast at the beginning, got caught up matching club riders through the hills after Marlow and lots of sections in TT mode by myself. After Haye on Wye I slowed down a little and joined a small group to get over the Beacons and THAT hill before Chepstow.

It was here that my knee decided to give up. Ended up having to get off bike and walk up all the remaining gradients. Thought a good 4hours sleep at Chepstow could sort it out for the morning, but alas, going over the Severn Bridge I realised that even with 16hours available it was going to be a permanent injury if I carried on. Like  @Lee Velo I ended up struggling my way to Bristol for train back to London.

Lessons were learnt. But the route and organisers are excellent and I can't wait to give it another go.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: adrianfitch on May 19, 2019, 07:10:47 pm
Anybody need a room at the Bristol Severn View Travelodge for the night of this year's event (15 June)? I booked it a while ago but now can't ride the the event. Cost was £64.

Please DM me if you you'd like to use my booking.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: alotronic on June 09, 2019, 09:06:39 am
Looking for a gpx or routesheet from organiser or on AUK - have I missed it?!
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Tillapaw on June 09, 2019, 09:10:52 am
LaidBackRich is out doing the final route check this weekend, I'd imagine it will be sent to the riders on Monday or Tuesday.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: alotronic on June 10, 2019, 08:53:44 am
Ah ok, thanks! Looks like he had better weather than we might get :-)
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: eddum on June 11, 2019, 04:09:11 pm
Ah ok, thanks! Looks like he had better weather than we might get :-)

Looks like a fair bit of rain.. hard to tell if showers or proper weather  ;D
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: marcusjb on June 11, 2019, 04:57:23 pm
50/50 for me at the moment - pulled a muscle in my back a day or two after the WCW and things are not 100% yet, so really don't want to risk aggravating things again.

I'll make a call probably by Thursday - if I can't ride, do you need any more hands at HQ either Saturday morning or Sunday afternoon/evening?
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: jakemcree on June 11, 2019, 07:07:03 pm
Am I missing something or is there just one gps file?
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Matt Robinson on June 11, 2019, 09:25:51 pm
Am I missing something or is there just one gps file?

I've split it up into 4 tracks and a waypoint file.
You can download my version from: http://bit.ly/2ZpBkEp (http://bit.ly/2ZpBkEp)
Please check before using!

Matt
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Laid Back Rich on June 12, 2019, 12:51:12 pm
I've split it up into 4 tracks and a waypoint file.
You can download my version from: http://bit.ly/2ZpBkEp (http://bit.ly/2ZpBkEp)
Please check before using!
Matt

Many thanks Matt, always helpful when there are better IT people than me to do stuff like that  :thumbsup:

I will email it to all the riders, as not all are here.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Laid Back Rich on June 12, 2019, 02:23:31 pm
50/50 for me at the moment - pulled a muscle in my back a day or two after the WCW and things are not 100% yet, so really don't want to risk aggravating things again.
I'll make a call probably by Thursday - if I can't ride, do you need any more hands at HQ either Saturday morning or Sunday afternoon/evening?

sorry to hear that Marcus, hope you can ride, but if not we are ok for helpers, that said you would be welcome to pop in on Sunday any time 4-10pm at the scout hut for your share of the KWAC BEER  :)
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Laid back lounger on June 12, 2019, 04:56:15 pm
Am I missing something or is there just one gps file?

I've split it up into 4 tracks and a waypoint file.
You can download my version from: http://bit.ly/2ZpBkEp (http://bit.ly/2ZpBkEp)
Please check before using!

Matt

If the original already had the waypoints in then my web app can do that automaically.  Just select yes - split by waypoint in the drop down.

https://simple-gpx.herokuapp.com/
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Matt Robinson on June 12, 2019, 05:01:49 pm

If the original already had the waypoints in then my web app can do that automaically.  Just select yes - split by waypoint in the drop down.

https://simple-gpx.herokuapp.com/

It's just a ride-with-GPS link so I re-plotted the main waypoints myself as I don't have a premium membership. $50 per year!!!
I'll give your site a go next time I can though, it looks really useful!

Matt
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: hippy on June 12, 2019, 08:23:15 pm
I split it into each stage/control on RWGPS (with some overlap):
https://ridewithgps.com/events/32269-ww600
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: eddum on June 13, 2019, 07:21:02 pm

Ok talk to me about weather.... forecast looks generally changeable, definitely some showers but how heavy ?
Mudguards on ? trying to avoid it as they feel a bit heavy but hey ho.

 :-\
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: hippy on June 13, 2019, 08:11:42 pm
https://www.weatherbagel.com/f/e5dcf8cf-5864-422c-a6db-759254852bc1
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: alotronic on June 14, 2019, 09:44:43 am
Rain, at night, that's a bit of a 'pack everything' signal to me - and reduce aspiration to just get round in bloody time and get this PBP qual done, don't mind the quality!
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: hippy on June 14, 2019, 10:15:12 am
I've been packing everything anyway and I bailed on Pendle so I should really pull the finger out and do this. Looks good on Sat and should dry out on Sunday arvo :)
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Pip on June 17, 2019, 06:33:19 pm
I bought Richard a beer at Manningtree station after a qualifier back in 2003. This weekend, he and his magnificent team of helpers got their round in by supporting us with warmth and generosity of spirit.

The sincere and heartfelt welcome we received at the arrivé will live long in the memory. Many thanks for organising a tough ride with lots of love and encouragement.....and beer  ;D

Here's a write-up about the perils of vanishing minutes

https://stravaddict.wordpress.com/2019/06/17/kingston-wheelers-wye-wander-600-16/
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: tonyh on June 17, 2019, 06:59:02 pm
That's a lovely read! Thanks.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Bagman on June 17, 2019, 07:13:24 pm
Great read Pip and I did enjoy your small peloton for parts of the ride
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Laid back lounger on June 17, 2019, 07:15:30 pm
Indeed, good read.
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: Neil C on June 17, 2019, 07:48:29 pm
Thanks to Richard and all the wonderful Kingston Wheelers for an amazing event.

Pip's writing made me laugh out loud and does the event more justice than I ever could. I now understand how a team that regularly whizzed past me could still be window shopping in Pewsey when I was leaving worrying whether I had enough time to get back. By stopping in Raglan Team MHP missed out on the delights of TWO meals at the KW Bulwark Hilton.

Any chance of running the event in summer next year?
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: eddum on June 18, 2019, 08:28:41 am
I bought Richard a beer at Manningtree station after a qualifier back in 2003. This weekend, he and his magnificent team of helpers got their round in by supporting us with warmth and generosity of spirit.

The sincere and heartfelt welcome we received at the arrivé will live long in the memory. Many thanks for organising a tough ride with lots of love and encouragement.....and beer  ;D

Here's a write-up about the perils of vanishing minutes

https://stravaddict.wordpress.com/2019/06/17/kingston-wheelers-wye-wander-600-16/

 :hand: Eggs ?!!!
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: alotronic on June 18, 2019, 09:16:38 am
Good ride Pip, nice to put a name to the face (Mr ACME here) and I wondered how close you would cut it knowing that a/ You were going to be ghosting into Chepstow at control time and b/ that first 80km on Sunday taking sooooo looooong... glad to hear you all made it!
Title: Re: Wander Wye
Post by: alotronic on June 23, 2019, 12:03:09 am
And finally a write up: https://www.allenoleary.co.uk/2019/06/22/wander-wye-wonder-why/ (https://www.allenoleary.co.uk/2019/06/22/wander-wye-wonder-why/)