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Off Topic => The Pub => Food & Drink => Topic started by: Martin on June 15, 2018, 08:55:34 pm

Title: B****tspoons
Post by: Martin on June 15, 2018, 08:55:34 pm
Tim Martin has decided he can sell UK "champagne" cheaper than the French variety and is also replacing some of their German beers with UK versions


https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/wetherspoons-brexit-british-alcohol-tim-martin-patriotic-not-realistic-a8400691.html


although I like the chain and tend to drink UK brewed ale there I'm not pleased with the direction this is taking....

thoughts?
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: Mrs Pingu on June 15, 2018, 09:50:44 pm
He is a brexit loving wanker. That is all.
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: ian on June 15, 2018, 09:55:11 pm
Yup, don't give him your business, go frequent somewhere nicer and better, which isn't a challenge. We have an ace micro pub nearby that gets all my local business. Excellent beer, they take requests, and I know the profits end up in the right pocket and the owners don't feel a need to lecture me with their political views. It's just a plus that neither of them are mulleted cunts that look like a stereotype of a 70s sex pest.
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: Pingu on June 15, 2018, 10:17:09 pm
There are six seven excellent bars within 5 minutes walk of our local 'Spoons...
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: Andrew Br on June 16, 2018, 04:49:52 pm
I didn't want to use Bletherspoons at the end of the recent Manchester-BPool FNRttC but lack of local knowledge meant we (well 3 of us, the others opted to get the 1st train out of Dodge) went there.
I think FNRsttC are the only time I patronise* Tim not so nice and dim's establishments..
For similar reasons, I'll never buy a Dyson.

* In this instance it doesn't mean talking down to them.


Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: Torslanda on June 16, 2018, 04:56:22 pm
Mrs. Pingu wins the thread.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: rogerzilla on June 16, 2018, 05:37:01 pm
If you look at a photo of Tim Martin you can see where the term "gammon" came from.
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: gonzo on June 16, 2018, 06:39:18 pm
Quote I enjoyed from dead ringers; "Weatherspoons have stopped selling champagne. This is not a problem as anyone finding themselves in a weatherspoons has anything to celebrate"
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: T42 on June 17, 2018, 10:01:38 am
Tim Martin has decided he can sell UK "champagne" cheaper than the French variety and is also replacing some of their German beers with UK versions

Wanker. "British" wine is made from imported grape juice. I doubt if he could sell English wine - i.e. wine from grapes grow in England - in sufficient quantity for it to be worth stocking: there isn't enough of it.

Meanwhile, Taittinger are setting up in Kent.
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: LEE on June 17, 2018, 10:28:03 am
Who the fuck was drinking Champagne in Wetherspoons?

It's like KFC threatening to stop selling Avocado Salads.
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: Martin on June 17, 2018, 06:26:20 pm
Who the fuck was drinking Champagne in Wetherspoons?

It's like KFC threatening to stop selling Avocado Salads.

Probably almost nobody; plus he prolly got a good deal in some cases from Denby's in Dorking;


if he's going to take this to its conclusion is he planning to stop selling Guinness Heineken St Stefanus (superb!) Leffe Peroni and other non UK EU brewed beers?

almost nobody sells actual French wine in bars or restaurants over here anyway

to those who say don't give Mullet your business, I've just bought 2 pints of Harveys and 2 packets of crisps and it cost what 2 meals with drinks (decent local ale too) would cost in spoons...
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: pcolbeck on June 18, 2018, 07:45:10 am
Guinness is owned by a British company. Its brewed in Dublin but the owners are British. Hmm a tough call for the delightful Mr Martin.
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: citoyen on June 18, 2018, 09:28:16 am
Spoons are currently heavily promoting Hop House 13 lager, which is also brewed in Dublin by Guinness.

Will they stop selling Stella too?

According to the Spoons website, their top four brands are Bud Light, Ruddles, John Smiths and Magners. Presumably they'll be looking for a new cider supplier now as well. Ruddles and JS are British enough, but also shite.

Personally, none of this will have any bearing on whether or not I continue to use Spoons - he's a prize twat but his pubs do a job. I don't go in them very often anyway, but they can be useful on occasion.
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: lahoski on June 18, 2018, 09:43:15 am
Just get a 4' x 6' EU flag to wrap around your shoulders when you pop into 'spoons.
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: LEE on June 18, 2018, 09:48:41 am
Tim Martin has decided he can sell UK "champagne" cheaper than the French variety and is also replacing some of their German beers with UK versions

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/wetherspoons-brexit-british-alcohol-tim-martin-patriotic-not-realistic-a8400691.html

although I like the chain and tend to drink UK brewed ale there I'm not pleased with the direction this is taking....

thoughts?
Thoughts:

I've heard that he's a bit of a twat but he seems to be being fairly principled over this vis-a-vis his Brexit stance.

He owns the company so he can do what the hell he wants with it, sell what he likes.

My local pub is a free-house and the landlord sells what he likes as well. 

Wetherspoons operate a "stack it high, sell it cheap" model so he can't afford to have expensive booze sat around for weeks.

Our local one is a bit bland, and seems to attract a lot of "Breakfast drinkers", and has skewed my impression of them,  but I've noticed that they've also kept many historic buildings economically viable around the country. 

To me they are like a McDonalds, a last resort but sometimes a welcome last resort (If you object to a McDonalds Burger then you simply haven't cycled far enough yet).


Note - I prefer Prosecco to Champers anyway. I'm a cheap date.
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: telstarbox on June 18, 2018, 10:16:13 am
He doesn't actually own it - it's a plc.
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: ian on June 18, 2018, 10:42:19 am
If you want cheap beer, cheap food, and sticky tables, then you get Wetherspoons. Their main success was to replace the truly awful pubs that only served Fosters, crisps, and casual aggression.

Anyway, he's entitled to his views, but I don't want them with my drink and since he's added them to the equation, I'll add them to mine and take my very occasional business elsewhere.
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: Crumbling Nick on June 18, 2018, 09:36:31 pm
We used to use 'Spoons in unfamiliar parts of the country for cheap & cheerful food & often local beers (invariably in good condition, though rarely young). We stopped going there (despite CAMRA 50p discount vouchers) when they removed fesh vegetables from the menu (I count sweetcorn as a high sugar version of maize, a staple). Sadly a large number of other pubs seem to have joined the rush down towards American crap food.

On the plus side they have made good use of some iconic buildings - Harrogate is an excellent example.
Title: Re: B****tspoons
Post by: Martin on June 20, 2018, 05:48:17 pm
We used to use 'Spoons in unfamiliar parts of the country for cheap & cheerful food & often local beers (invariably in good condition, though rarely young). We stopped going there (despite CAMRA 50p discount vouchers) when they removed fesh vegetables from the menu (I count sweetcorn as a high sugar version of maize, a staple). Sadly a large number of other pubs seem to have joined the rush down towards American crap food.

as someone who occasionally does eat at 'spoons I've noticed the choice has really gone down a lot recently (especially for veggies). Recently we've lost bagels, burritos, baguettes and pasta to name a few, and it's mostly just standard greasy pub fare now.

Pizza is a new idea but very fatty and cheese - laden compared to other chains and independents  (not Pizza Hut)