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Off Topic => The Pub => The Sporting Life => Topic started by: Wowbagger on November 03, 2018, 03:18:04 pm

Title: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Wowbagger on November 03, 2018, 03:18:04 pm
I'm confused here, and probably out of date or something. I thought the autumn internationals were for the southern hemisphere sides to come and beat the European sides. But Wales seem to be playing Scotland. Won't they be playing again in the 6 nations in about 3 months?

Edit: Ah. It seems that Doddy Weir, former Scots international, has introduced A Thing called the Doddy Weir Cup, a kind of rugby Charity Shield in which the proceeds go towards research into motor neurone disease. I haven't bothered to read further as to whether it's an annual event between Scotland and Wales, or whether other countries might be involved in the future.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Basil on November 03, 2018, 04:22:54 pm
Also, as teams are using the games as early preparation  for next year's word cup, it seems very haphazard this year.  E.g.  New Zealand  playing Japan, in Japan today. Or yesterday.
Ireland playing Wales tonight. In Chicago!

Edit.  I meant Ireland playing Italy  tonight.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Jaded on November 03, 2018, 05:10:13 pm
Interesting match at Twickenham.  :)
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Wowbagger on November 03, 2018, 06:02:59 pm
I have read a bit more. Doddy Weir is himself suffering from motor neurone disease.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Jaded on November 10, 2018, 04:59:37 pm
Well, that was interesting.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Basil on November 10, 2018, 06:00:57 pm
I watched Scotland from the comfort of my own armchair.
But the only way to watch Wales is in a Welsh pub.  The passion is most infectious.   :D
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Wowbagger on November 10, 2018, 07:06:41 pm
I don't know what the thoughts are in the pub about the Halfpenny incident, Basil, but I gained the impression that Halfpenny fumbled the ball just before he kicked it and that gave the tackler a bit more time to get to him.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Basil on November 10, 2018, 07:14:13 pm
I don't know what the thoughts are in the pub about the Halfpenny incident, Basil, but I gained the impression that Halfpenny fumbled the ball just before he kicked it and that gave the tackler a bit more time to get to him.
You may well be right, Wow.  But no one in here will agree.  ;D
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Basil on November 10, 2018, 07:14:48 pm
Well, that was tense.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Wowbagger on November 10, 2018, 07:23:01 pm
I don't know what the thoughts are in the pub about the Halfpenny incident, Basil, but I gained the impression that Halfpenny fumbled the ball just before he kicked it and that gave the tackler a bit more time to get to him.
You may well be right, Wow.  But no one in here will agree.  ;D

No, I was wrong. Watching it from the live camera angle I thought he had fumbled, but I just saw it from Halfpenny's right and he was in control the whole time.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Jaded on November 10, 2018, 08:41:15 pm
Fantastic result for the Welsh  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Wowbagger on November 10, 2018, 08:44:57 pm
Watching the England v NZ highlights, I haven't see a lovely rolling maul try like England's second for a long time. ISTR it was the hallmark of the Will Carling side when Dean Richards was no. 8.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Basil on November 10, 2018, 09:09:56 pm
IRTA 'When Dean Richards was 8'
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Mr Larrington on November 17, 2018, 08:59:21 pm
Jolly well done, you Irishes!
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: farfetched on November 17, 2018, 09:12:10 pm
Exhausted watching that, what an intensity. From start to finish.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Wowbagger on November 17, 2018, 10:18:59 pm
My attempts to google have not found any highlights of Ireland v NZ. Anyone know where to find them?
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: matthew on November 18, 2018, 12:44:45 am
Live coverage was on channel 4 so i suggest 4od
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: mattc on November 18, 2018, 08:55:17 am
Really enjoyed that, well done you Oirish!


(And no tries for the All Blacks, whatever next ... )
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Wowbagger on November 18, 2018, 01:57:56 pm
Well, I found the whole match with unavoidable adverts, lasting well over 2 hours, and I found some highlight which showed the try, but didn't show the build up to the try. It was clear that the scorer ran through under a kick but the editors chose to omit the kick itself.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Peter on November 18, 2018, 02:10:57 pm
Not sure, Peter, but I think it was his own kick, therefore a classic piece of rugger worthy of winning a game.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Wowbagger on November 18, 2018, 02:49:58 pm
Not sure, Peter, but I think it was his own kick, therefore a classic piece of rugger worthy of winning a game.

It looked that way, but the clip began when the ball was at the top of its curve, so I'm having to sit through hours of adverts interspersed with short bursts of rugby.

I've watched the first half, and I can't remember a team withstanding such prolonged pressure without conceding a try. The All Black's defence is superb.

Edit: that also speaks volumes about the Irish patience. Many a side, unable to convert pressure into points, would start making mistakes and giving away counter-chances.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Peter on November 18, 2018, 03:00:51 pm
Try this - at about 4.00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZageyxPzgw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZageyxPzgw)
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Wowbagger on November 18, 2018, 03:04:28 pm
I've just seen the try from the "live" perspective. It was his own kick - very good indeed! And I love the respect that the crowd give the players. Totally silent when the place-kicker is preparing.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Peter on November 18, 2018, 03:08:49 pm
Definitely!
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Wowbagger on November 18, 2018, 03:52:11 pm
Superb performance by Ireland - and definitely worth watching all 80 minutes. One of the hardest-fought matches I've seen for a long time. It reminded me of the Wales-France 5-nations deciders of the 1970s.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Wowbagger on November 24, 2018, 07:59:26 pm
A good result for Wales today. Some difficult moments but they survived.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: pcolbeck on November 24, 2018, 09:59:44 pm
And Tommy got a try! We all thought he would never score a try for Wales. I think his Dad has to pay a forfit now but I cant remember what it is.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Wowbagger on November 25, 2018, 12:00:27 am
Yes, I thought of you as he scored it. I do like prop forwards scoring tries.

England made the Australians look very ordinary as well. I would imagine that since the Autumn Internationals involving lots of southern hemisphere sides have been instituted, that this is probably the worst they have done. The All-Blacks weren't playing today, but Australia, South Africa and Argentina all lost - and the best NH side - Ireland - didn't play a SH side this week.
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: CommuteTooFar on November 25, 2018, 04:09:06 pm
Italy played the All Blacks  3 - 66
France lost to Fiji 14-21

source www.world.rugby (http://www.world.rugby)

Lots of other internationals happened yesterday. 
Title: Re: Autumn Internationals
Post by: Peter on November 26, 2018, 12:39:16 am
A good result for Wales today. Some difficult moments but they survived.

I watched it and thought Wales were worth their win.  But I was surprised at how easily the Springboks turned them over, again and again, as if the Welsh had oily hands.  I think Wales may suffer against a less embryonic side.